Report: Harbaugh gets job offer from Bills, rejects it
Recently, reports surfaced that Stanford head coach Jim Harbaugh was a "stealth candidate" for the Buffalo Bills' head coaching vacancy. On Saturday night, CBS analyst and former NFL GM Charley Casserly reported that the Bills offered the job to Harbaugh - the first such offer we've heard about them making to anyone.
Add Harbaugh to the list of coaches that have given the Bills a big, fat "thanks, but no thanks." He'll stay at Stanford, a program he's in the midst of building into a contending program in the Pac-10, temporarily foregoing a shot to lead an NFL team alongside his brother, John.
This report isn't completely surprising from either angle. Bills GM Buddy Nix has gone on public record as saying that he wanted a coach with previous head coach experience, and Buffalo's current list of candidates - which runs just two deep - lack that quality. It's also not surprising that Harbaugh passed on the opportunity, for two reasons - if he keeps up his success at Stanford, he'll have much better opportunities in a year or two, and rejecting the Buffalo Bills is totally fetch at the moment.
Leslie Frazier remains the front-runner for the job, as he's the only coach to formally interview for the job that hasn't taken a different job elsewhere. Russ Grimm, whose Arizona squad was bounced from the playoffs yesterday, may interview sometime next week - if, of course, he doesn't turn the Bills down, too.
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That's what happens when you have a salesman as your president overseeing the GM.
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by BillsNYC on Jan 17, 2010 7:49 AM EST reply actions 1 recs
Nope. Kaiser has said it until he is blue in the face. Virtually every NFL team has a president or VP that doesn’t do football stuff. I’d like to hear you explain why Brandon is the reason Harbaugh chose not to come.
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by MattRichWarren on Jan 17, 2010 9:12 AM EST up reply actions
The other GMs don’t report to those VPs, and the other VPs weren’t acting GMs for the last 2 years.
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The first part of your sentence I can get on board with, but I’m not sure how the second part is relevant.
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by Brian Galliford on Jan 17, 2010 10:25 AM EST up reply actions
In my opinion, Brandon is still making all final calls on the football side, they hired Nix because no outsider would ever take the job under Brandon. There was no other reason to promote Brandon to President other than to make clear Nix goes through Brandon.
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Well, that’s just, like, your opinion, man.
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by Brian Galliford on Jan 17, 2010 12:49 PM EST up reply actions
Brian, are you doing all your posts as a Mean Girls character today? haha
by StroudFanClub on Jan 17, 2010 12:50 PM EST up reply actions
Ha, wow. That… that was not Mean Girls.
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by Brian Galliford on Jan 17, 2010 12:51 PM EST up reply actions
Then I don't get that one I guess. That's ok, I've been out of the loop before
by StroudFanClub on Jan 17, 2010 12:52 PM EST up reply actions
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by Brian Galliford on Jan 17, 2010 12:57 PM EST up reply actions
Ha, I know I'm gonna get crap for this, but I've never seen the Big Lebowski
In fact, I’ve never seen a few “classics”….Pulp Fiction comes to mind. Lets see what else….Field of Dreams, any of the Rambo movies….
But, in addition to Mean Girls, I can quote every line from Can’t Hardly Wait….or any other 13-year old girl type high school movie you can think of.
Don’t think I don’t take crap for this with my group of friends, either. Oh, I do….and it takes a big man to share this information with you all….right? right? haha
by StroudFanClub on Jan 17, 2010 1:05 PM EST up reply actions
Bro..
Your killing me. Never seen Pulp? Or any Rambo movies? I weep for you.
Seriously, get cracking on those. It’s a long off season.
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by Michael_Necci on Jan 17, 2010 2:43 PM EST up reply actions
Perfect time to catch up, do it in Feb before pitchers and catchers report
Feb is the total sports doldrums, nothing is happening, Hockey, Basketball and March madness all haven’t hit their strides yet due to the seasons or what have you. Will be interesing.
As my mother once said, common sense isn't as common as it should be, I'm looking at you Ralph, get the Front Office in order, THEN worry about who your HC is....
Well I obviously disagree with you. :-) He’s going to be in the room but he’s not a football guy so why would he want to make personnel decisions?
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by MattRichWarren on Jan 18, 2010 10:52 AM EST up reply actions
I really think we need to lay off the salesman thing...
The point is understood and easily debatable, but it is recently obvious with the inclusion of Nix that we needed to strengthen the football background in the front office. Assuming Nix is that guy to do this, you would have to recognize Brandon for the hire. Also, assuming that Nix will continue to beef up this part of the organization with similiar people or at least guide them into different criteria in scouting and evaluating will only solidify Brandon’s contribution.
Is it really average talent or just poor coaching, how important is depth and experience.
See above
Everbody needs to take the blinders off….Brandon IS Ralph at OBD, he’s calling all shots…football and business. Nix is just window dressing.
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on principle, i disagree with pretty much any post that tells me 'take the blinders off.'
“open your eyes man! Everyone who knows agrees with me, everyone else is just ignorant.”
is it really the fact that the bills have a front office alignment like pretty much every other team in the league? Or is that the team is at least 2-3 years away, has the least stable ownership in the league, and would require him to move from Palo Alto to Buffalo?
Jonathan Stupar won the Heisman…while playing in the NFL!
That’s because college coaches have different skills than NFL ones. But I like Harbuagh because he hasn’t recruited the best players ever. He’s motivated the second tier player he had on his squad to be much better. That’s what makes a good NFL head coach, too.
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by MattRichWarren on Jan 17, 2010 9:13 AM EST up reply actions
Very Good Point
Is it really average talent or just poor coaching, how important is depth and experience.
Harbaugh instills a physical type of play that can excell at any level
he would be a great coach but i really think Frazier is due for a chance and we get a great coach for the first time in a long time
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by BRIANMULHALL on Jan 17, 2010 9:52 AM EST up reply actions
I really like Harbaugh too
I think he’s going to make a very fine coach in the NFL someday. I also think he made the right decision for himself, because his stock will go even higher next year after Stanford wins a championship.
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He'll probably coach the Bears next year
I see him wanting to coach his old team
No surprise here
Although I am surprised he was even offered an interview. I thought that was just someone’s pipe dream.
I really wanted him
I know this is a little far-fetched, but I wonder with Harbaugh if it had something to do with Jim Kelly. I know they do not like each other, (they did get into a fight after a game Harbaugh played in). I would if because Kelly is so prevalent with this organization still if that had something to do with it.
OK, now what?
I know that previously people have suggested that there were too many coordinators or potential coordinators to list as possibilities here because there were too many possibilities as head coaches. Now with the HC pool dwindling I am beginning to worry about experienced coordinators that would be available for ANYONE to hire that would be DECENT to help out first time coaches. Mayybe we could begin to explore some of those that might be available based on what Buddy Nix has said he wants as “teachers” and preferrably previous experience as coordinators.
Maybe they meant actual teachers?
I am sure they would make more in the NFL as assistants :-)
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by MattRichWarren on Jan 17, 2010 9:14 AM EST up reply actions
he didn’t even accept the chance to interview.
MRW expects to get the Cowboys job as soon as Jerry tires of Wade.
Jonathan Stupar won the Heisman…while playing in the NFL!
Oh I wouldn’t want to do it. 16 hour days aren’t for me.
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by MattRichWarren on Jan 18, 2010 10:53 AM EST up reply actions
but Ralph is willing to pay you handsomely.....
tell me you turn down the job just to be in vogue…
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When is it time?
For the Bills to simply cut bait, stop being embarrassed by all the ‘no, thanks’ replies, and simply say ’Frazier’s our guy’ and make him an offer?
I mean, we’re a couple more declines away from the ‘Why working for the Bills is almost as bad as working for Oakland’ stories in the national media. I guess this is why RW didn’t want to go after big-time head coaches…
Or is all of this just a blip on the radar screen, and will be forgotten by the time training camp rolls around?
I think Wilson did want a big-time HC, or was at least interested. But Shanahan wanted the Washington job, and I hear a lot of rumours now that Cowher wants the Giants job.
It’s sort of the ideal HC position, especially for a coach with a reputation, to go into a situation where a team has just come off a year where they underperformed badly (Redskins, Giants, Seahawks). It’s easy then to come in and “turn things around” quickly, making you look better. The Bills, on the other hand, are looking like a long-term turnaround project, with maybe another two or three losing seasons ahead (sorry). Not as much fun.
When is it time? For the Bills to simply cut bait, stop being embarrassed by all the ‘no, thanks’ replies, and simply say ’Frazier’s our guy’ and make him an offer?
When his team is officially eliminated from the playoffs.
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by MattRichWarren on Jan 17, 2010 9:15 AM EST up reply actions
The Report also stated
That Tony Dungy was offered the GM job in Seattle and he was willing to accept with the inclusion of Leslie Frazier as his head coach. Seattle responded by hiring Pet Carroll. The intriguing fact is that there is alot going on that we don’t know about and should only accept these reports at face value. There is no legitimacy to any of them or there is total truth to all of them. Honestly, it would fall somewhere in the middle.
Is it really average talent or just poor coaching, how important is depth and experience.
Um, no
The report was that Dungy was offered the Seattle job after he stated he’d make Leslie Frazier his head coach. Dungy then asked to sleep on it for a night and then Dungy turned down Seattle. Seattle did not turn down Dungy because Dungy intended to hire Frazier.
It can always get worse. Let me tell you how.
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I understand, just a little confused on the message at first.
Is it really average talent or just poor coaching, how important is depth and experience.
So the Bills "guy" was Harbaugh...
A few things here are telling as Brian alludes some of these:
1) A guy with HC experience – guess that means college too (although I am not sure they are still looking in the college ranks, but it doesn’t mean that they aren’t still considering others – Carroll went to Seattle this year. Ferentz (Iowa) is always mention with any HC opening year after year?
2) Even though Fraizer and Grimm seem to be 50 somes, the guys they seem to be targeting were 30-40 somes – meaning a younger coach that probably can connect with the players more closely and motivate them more. I don’t put a lot into this, but this is a different generation player than it was when Levy coached… IMO, players today relate to youth and energy… of course they relate to winning more than anything.
3) It sounds like a small percentage of Bills fans trust that Brandon or Nix will make a good decision going forward. Although very little people considered Harbaugh even a candidate, it sounds as if Nix and Harbaugh was sold and made him the offer. Will there be anymore surprises going forward? IMO, I hope there are… I hope Nix and Brandon are turning over every stone they can in these “Stealth” interviews.
Harbaugh turns 47 this year....
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"As the governor of Louisiana once said, the only way Chris Kelsay can lose his job is if he got caught in bed with a dead girl or a live boy."
he just turned 46 about 3 weeks ago......
lol
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by norcaliangelsfan on Jan 17, 2010 11:03 AM EST up reply actions
or that
I’m looking ahead, not back!
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"As the governor of Louisiana once said, the only way Chris Kelsay can lose his job is if he got caught in bed with a dead girl or a live boy."
kick save and a beauty ;)
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Stop trying to make fetch happen Brian. It’s not going to happen.
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Yeah... an interesting choice of words...
Also, “If he doesn’t turn down the Bills too”
Sounds like a “shot” at OBD.
Nice "Mean Girls" quote.............
MRW Im impressed.
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by norcaliangelsfan on Jan 17, 2010 10:08 AM EST up reply actions
One of my favorite movies. Strangely hilarious.
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by Brian Galliford on Jan 17, 2010 10:26 AM EST up reply actions
Agreed.......
A hot snotty Rachel McAdams…….a cluelessly beautiful Lacey Chabert……..Lindsay Lohan before she was all drugged out…….not to mention my personal favorite Tina Fey…..
Its usually a must watch for me if its on TV.
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by norcaliangelsfan on Jan 17, 2010 10:43 AM EST up reply actions 2 recs
+1 rec’d
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by Michael_Necci on Jan 17, 2010 10:57 AM EST up reply actions
Love the respect for Mean Girls.
Norcal, when your right, your right! Props to Brian for “fetch”. Good work all around, gentlemen.
by StroudFanClub on Jan 17, 2010 11:42 AM EST up reply actions
I've seen it wayyyy to many times because of the ol girlfriend
But yea that movie is pretty good. And Lacey chabert is pretty hot. ‘shut up! I…..I didn’t say anything’
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by silverstreak3k on Jan 17, 2010 2:41 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Tina Fey. Why is it so strange?
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by MattRichWarren on Jan 18, 2010 10:54 AM EST up reply actions
This is bad news/good news
Bad – Harbaugh turned it down;
Good – It means we are still looking for a good coach, not just settling for the only one who will take the job.
I’m still waiting for someone to explain why Jim Haslett’s name is never mentioned and the Bills’ version of why they are reluctant to interview Brian Billick
Good – It means we are still looking for a good coach, not just settling for the only one who will take the job.
I don’t know that it means that at all. Buffalo has been spurned—that we know of—by Mike Shanahan, Bill Cower, and Jim Harbaugh with Brian Schottenheimer refusing to even interview. Russ Grimm hasn’t exactly sounded enthusiastic about interviewing either. (Yes, it could be that Grimm was just utterly focused on New Orleans.) At some point Buffalo will at least seem to be grasping at straws.
It can always get worse. Let me tell you how.
I’m still waiting for someone to explain why Jim Haslett’s name is never mentioned and the Bills’ version of why they are reluctant to interview Brian Billick
You want a proven failure for a HC? His Saints made the playoffs once in six years. I’m trying to understand why Haslett is a good choice???
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"As the governor of Louisiana once said, the only way Chris Kelsay can lose his job is if he got caught in bed with a dead girl or a live boy."
He succeed with Aaron Brooks as his QB..........
its not like he ever had a talented team like what the Saints have now……….
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by norcaliangelsfan on Jan 17, 2010 11:12 AM EST up reply actions
How did he succeed?
~K
"As the governor of Louisiana once said, the only way Chris Kelsay can lose his job is if he got caught in bed with a dead girl or a live boy."
got em to the playoffs..........
won only the 2nd Division crown ever for the team and first ever playoff win………..
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by norcaliangelsfan on Jan 17, 2010 12:12 PM EST up reply actions
And then promptly missed the playoffs 5 straight years....
Then again, our goal is to just be relevant again, so who are we to complain?
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"As the governor of Louisiana once said, the only way Chris Kelsay can lose his job is if he got caught in bed with a dead girl or a live boy."
I would of been happy with a Haslett interview
Coaching experience, knows the city, fans, owner. I hope we are not looking for the next superbowl coach going into the 2010-2011 season. I mean even Bellichek, Parcells, Cowher, Shanahan and many others struggled until they were able to get things right. If I am not mistaken, it is the whole front office that formulates a championship run not just the head coach. This is why we talk so much about Polian, Bultler and A.J. Smith.
I just would call every potential canidate a failure. Haslett may not be a good choice but he too was a hell of a player.
Is it really average talent or just poor coaching, how important is depth and experience.
Haslett is the Skins’ DC now. he is garbage though anyway, and always underachieved w/ very talented Saints teams. I’d give any of these DC’s/OC’s a shot before a retread like Haslett
Mike Shanahan disagrees with you.
No offense but I’ll side with Mike. Talented Saints teams, garbage, underachieved, retread. Wow!!!
Is it really average talent or just poor coaching, how important is depth and experience.
Shanahan doesn't know defense even it's starring in front of him
I wouldn’t use those words as CalebR did to describe Haslett, but I don’t think Haslett is good either. More reputation than anything.
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This report isn’t completely surprising from either angle. Bills GM Buddy Nix has gone on public record as saying that he wanted a coach with previous head coach experience, and Buffalo’s current list of candidates – which runs just two deep – lack that quality.
Doesn’t Fewell technically have head coaching experience? He did, um, guide the Bills for almost half of the 2009 season.
It can always get worse. Let me tell you how.
By “two deep,” I meant Frazier and Grimm. Fewell’s got a job.
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by Brian Galliford on Jan 17, 2010 10:26 AM EST up reply actions
So do those two, officially!
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"As the governor of Louisiana once said, the only way Chris Kelsay can lose his job is if he got caught in bed with a dead girl or a live boy."
hehe touche......
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by norcaliangelsfan on Jan 17, 2010 11:12 AM EST up reply actions
It really is down to two
And if Russ Grimm declines to even interview this week, or next, then someone is gonna have to talk me into coming off the ledge.
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by Run Thurmal Run! on Jan 17, 2010 11:13 AM EST up reply actions
So Grimm interviewing or not determines your fate?!?
Ha
~K
"As the governor of Louisiana once said, the only way Chris Kelsay can lose his job is if he got caught in bed with a dead girl or a live boy."
Sadly...
Almost. =P
He’s been my #1 choice for awhile out of all the reasonably realistic candidates. Seeing Shanahan, Cowher, Gruden and Harbaugh’s names go by hasn’t bothered me in the slightest. But if the list of co-ordinator candidates that say, “Thanks but no thanks” grows too much… my days of being an optimistic Bills fan are numbered.
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by Run Thurmal Run! on Jan 17, 2010 11:53 AM EST up reply actions
As does Haslett
DC or redskins.
Is it really average talent or just poor coaching, how important is depth and experience.
And technically
Frazier has more head coaching experience than Harbaugh, though at a much lower level.
by twoeightnine on Jan 17, 2010 1:20 PM EST up reply actions
isn't that
Vick’s favorite word?
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Not shocking..........although I'd have probably peed a little if Harbaugh had taken this job.
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by norcaliangelsfan on Jan 17, 2010 10:10 AM EST reply actions
Anyone care to guess what day Grimm will interview (or reject to interview) with Nix this week?
I would assume that it would be a Monday or Tuesday interview. I would also think that it would take place in Buffalo now that AZ is eliminated.
Somehow I wonder what conversations are happening today. Remember Grimm’s comments that he’d have to look at the whole things and decide. I don’t have the exact quote, but it wasn’t super positive and seemed to indicate that Grimm would have to do some due diligence on the franchise to know whether or not he wanted to go forward. Some other media were suggesting that he will be basing a lot of his decision on what his Agent knows who shares past stories with Mularkey. hmmm…
I would think that Brandon and Nix will have to do a big sales job again.
I am sure his agent will inform us when.
Is it really average talent or just poor coaching, how important is depth and experience.
all this reporting is
built on a house of cards. Other than B. Schott, who have we heard from that has publicly turned the job down? It’s all conjecture. From a recruiting standpoint, it would serve Harbaugh well to publicly turn the job down. Did he? No.
There are viable candidates still involved in the playoffs. Grimm is out less than 24 hours. He’s entitled to time to clear the season out of his head and decompress from a playoff run. If he’s not interested, we will know in a few days.
Personally, I think Casserly is a has-been trying to keep up with the other “pundits”. If he is so connected, why isn’t he a GM somewhere?
"If you're happy, stay happy" - Mike Riley
If Harbaugh announces he turned down the job it indicates that he was considering the job, which would be a point used against him in recruiting (‘why go to Stanford when he’s clearly looking to move on’).
or it means he never was considering it because he’s happy where he’s at and has no plans on leaving! (come to stanford…Harbaughs isn’t leaving, he turned down an nfl job!)
Harbaugh has some ties to the area........
he went to High School just down the road from Stanford Stadium……….in Palo Alto…….It just might be a place he wants to stay for a while…………..
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by norcaliangelsfan on Jan 17, 2010 11:24 AM EST up reply actions
I mentioned this in another thread
But Harbaugh is really enjoying what he’s doing right now at Stanford. The fact that he’s not interested in being the HC in Buffalo means almost nothing to me.
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by Run Thurmal Run! on Jan 17, 2010 11:28 AM EST up reply actions
Any college coach who turns down the NFL
should mean very little. Some guys don’t want to make the jump, or make the jump at the time…
~K
"As the governor of Louisiana once said, the only way Chris Kelsay can lose his job is if he got caught in bed with a dead girl or a live boy."
Does it change your opinion to know that
In January 2009, Harbaugh was confirmed to have been interviewed by the New York Jets for the head coach position, although the job was eventually offered to Rex Ryan. per wikipedia
So either he changed his mind about not wanting to coach in the NFL in one year…..or he just wasn’t interested in the Bills position. right?
by StroudFanClub on Jan 17, 2010 11:50 AM EST up reply actions
Not really
Harbaugh is focused on making Stanford into PAC 10 favorites. He wouldn’t have wanted the USC job either. Which means he’s happy where he is and he’s not that interested in the NFL or a big pay day. Good for him! He’ll be coaching in the NFL soon enough.
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by Run Thurmal Run! on Jan 17, 2010 12:05 PM EST up reply actions
Not really
He interviewed for the Jets job, was he really interested? Who’s to say he didn’t interview for our job? They offered him the job, so they must have at least talked to him, but it doesn’t mean he had any plans of jumping to the NFL.
Just because he returned to Stanford doesn’t mean he wanted nothing to do with Buffalo.
~K
"As the governor of Louisiana once said, the only way Chris Kelsay can lose his job is if he got caught in bed with a dead girl or a live boy."
I would like to agree with you, but I'm not sure at this point that he officially interviewed.
But he had to have interviewed if he was offered the job, right? Hold on, I’m having an argument with myself currently. I guess I just need some more details of what went down.
by StroudFanClub on Jan 17, 2010 12:54 PM EST up reply actions
I agree with the not reallys. Especially since the Jets interview was before he signed an extension and not one month after it. How often is a college guy willing to jump to another team right after signing a big extension?
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If he turned down an interview,
then yes I agree with your statement. But if he interviewed for the job, and then turned it down, then your point doesn’t hold water. If he is fixated in staying with Stanford, he shouldn’t be interviewing for another job unless he has a least a slight interest.
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he turned down the job it indicates that he was considering the job
Not necessarily. He could turn it down flat out without consideration. They called – he said no without so much as a “tell me more”. At which point, it helps him show committment to recruits and the program. Plus, recruits would see him as a coach sought after by the NFL…not too shabby a guy to play for..
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...damn
No one wants to coach us. He was my
choice too.
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by bflo on Jan 17, 2010 11:23 AM EST via mobile reply actions
After sleeping on it, I'm actually encouraged that the Bills identified Harbaugh and went after him
I posted some impressive details last night, but the article got deleted.
- Prior to the 2004 season, Harbaugh was named head football coach at the University of San Diego. In his first year, he directed the Toreros to an overall mark of 7–4, including 5 straight wins to end the season. The following year, the team improved to 11–1 and won the 2005 Pioneer Football League Championship. In 2006, USD again went 11–1 winning their second consecutive Pioneer League title in the process.
- Later in the season (2007), Stanford defeated #1 USC 24–23 with a touchdown in the final minute. With USC being the favorite by 41 points, it was statistically the greatest upset in college football history.
- Although Stanford lost to USC in 2008, Harbaugh and the Stanford Cardinal upset USC at home again with a score of 55–21 on November 15, 2009.7 Stanford’s 55 points are most ever scored on USC in Trojan history. It was Pete Carroll’s first November loss as coach of the Trojans.
- In 2009, the Cardinal had a comeback season, finishing the regular season at 8–4, finishing #21 in the polls, and receiving an invitation to play in the 2009 Sun Bowl. On December 13, 2009, Harbaugh was rewarded with a three-year contract extension through the 2014 season.
Needless to say, Jim Harbaugh was one of my favorite candidates for the position. I didn’t have much faith that the Bills would identify him being he was coaching college ball all the way across the country. So this news that they apparantly saw what alot of us saw in Harbaugh is very encouraging. Good job Nix, Brandon, Wilson in the identification process.
Now, the process of convincing the target to accept…..I don’t have such glowing things to say on this front.
Needless to say, Jim Harbaugh was one of my favorite candidates for the position. I didn’t have much faith that the Bills would identify him being he was coaching college ball all the way across the country. So this news that they apparantly saw what alot of us saw in Harbaugh is very encouraging. Good job Nix, Brandon, Wilson in the identification process.
Now, the process of convincing the target to accept…..I don’t have such glowing things to say on this front.
Right on. I don’t fault them at all for their search process this year. It’s just unfortunate that they can close the deal.
John I.
A continued annoyance
I posted some impressive details last night, but the article got deleted.
Yep, Ron’s whole article was deleted. We have complained about this before. I wish Brian could find a way to port the old post into the new one if you are going to delete whole articles to reduce overlap. I am seriously considering boycotting the new article when that happens.
"Do you even hear how totally bat sh!t insane you sound?" - Archer
Wait, what? What article? I haven’t deleted a thing today
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by Brian Galliford on Jan 17, 2010 1:50 PM EST up reply actions
Ask Ron...it was there last night
"Do you even hear how totally bat sh!t insane you sound?" - Archer
I actually looked this morning to see if someone had posted it. I do know we had a network outage last night… was it there after the outage?
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by Brian Galliford on Jan 17, 2010 4:25 PM EST up reply actions
Yes, it was there.....i rememeber because I responded to a post by Der Jeager after the outage...approx 12 EST
"Do you even hear how totally bat sh!t insane you sound?" - Archer
Def there last night posted between games yesterday.
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by MattRichWarren on Jan 18, 2010 9:00 PM EST up reply actions
Gettting Harbaugh would have made me excited
He was one of the few left on my list of candidates I could have gotten excited about. Dang.
Another failure.
John I.
hey ralph
yo ralph, what’s up with your search for a head coach?? what’s wrong with BRIAN BILLICK? does he rub you wrong?is he too much his own man?is he the kind of man who scares you because he won’t always kowtow to you? look at it this way,you will be dead soon,he will still be here.give him the job,step aside,enjoy what could be the last days of your life.let him bring the club back from the hole you with all your terrible decisions has brought it. let him take over,swallow your pride and stupid,stupid ego.the fans deserve better from you.haven’t you hurt us enough?isn’t it time to reward us for your innate idiocy ala al davis?isn’t it?
I for one, would love to have Billick!
Why do today, when it can wait til tomorrow; the games on!
by UtahBillsFan on Jan 17, 2010 1:40 PM EST up reply actions
By the way, folks – Jay Glazer just said that he believes Grimm WILL interview with Buffalo next week. Take it for what it’s worth.
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by Brian Galliford on Jan 17, 2010 12:51 PM EST reply actions
Actually sorry – heard that wrong. Glazer said that the Bills HOPED Grimm would change his mind and interview next week. Sorry again.
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by Brian Galliford on Jan 17, 2010 12:56 PM EST up reply actions
I just yo-yo'd
I think Jay Glazer is very credible. So when I saw Brian’s first post, I gasped. When I saw the second one, I sighed. =)
Brian, don’t worry. I’m not upset with you. That’s how I normally react to good news/bad news. =P
Schmucks don't make it to the Pro Bowl... except Jason Peters!
by Run Thurmal Run! on Jan 17, 2010 1:45 PM EST up reply actions
I think at this point, its time to interview guys like Billick and Jim Fassel. I am pretty sure Billick would jump at the chance to interview, wasn’t he assembling a staff? Jim Fassel is definitely worth a shot. I think he would interview also. And he is an excellent coach and teacher, something Nix supposedly is interested in.
Unless of course the Las Vegas Lobos and JP Losman are a better situation than us.
At the very least it looks as though we are still going after coached people recognize. Therefore rebuilding a little credibility that has been lost with all the rejections.
The perception
is there are really 30 head coaching jobs in the NFL plus short term employment opportunities with the Bills and Raiders.
very well stated
"you just have to know there's always going to be adversity. None of these games are going to be easy. Nothing will be given to us" - Paul Posluszny
Any news on Marc Trestman
CFL coach in Montreal with pretty strong OC resume in NFL?
Maybe Marv Part Deux
End of the World
What is with all the negativity? There is a certain ebb and flow to all this stuff. Finding the right person is like getting married. There needs to be a bit of chemistry. The trade mags aren’t going to make that happen with their lastest and greatest spec candidates. Let the process unfold, have a beer and chill. The crap will hit the fan soon enough.
by jackkemp15 on Jan 17, 2010 9:29 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
How about we bring back Wade Phillips if he gets fired? haha
I heard speculation that Harbaugh rejected it because he’s just starting to make a name for himself and he wants to build up a better reputation so he can get better offers.
Also he wants to make the program at Stanford stronger before he leaves.
I just hope...
That Frazier isn’t put out that the Bills interviewed him, but threw the job at Harbaugh….
I’d hate to lose the one legit candidate we have.
Wow!
This really is a mixed blessing. Harrible isn’t ready to coach in the NFL yet and he’s making it fashionable to turn down the job. Does anyone think we can get Frazier at this point? I swear somehow it will fall through.

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