Bills Coaching Candidate Report: Russ Grimm
With the Arizona Cardinals eliminated from the playoffs, the Buffalo Bills can now talk to (and hire if they both sides so desire) Arizona offensive line coach Russ Grimm. Grimm has served in that position since he was a finalist for both the Pittsburgh Steelers and Cardinals head coaching jobs in 2007.
It's been widely reported, most prominently by Allen Wilson and WIVB, that Grimm's interest in the position is somewhere between lukewarm and non-existent. The Bills have already been turned down officially by Brian Schottenheimer, and reports indicate Jim Harbaugh rebuffed the Bills as well.
Playing Career
Grimm, 50, is a Hall of Fame finalist this year for his play as a guard on the vaunted Washington Redskins offensive line, coined the "Hogs." That offensive line is so revered in Redskins nation that SB Nation's Redskins blog was christened "Hogs Haven." Grimm opened up holes for four Super Bowl teams, winning three (including Super Bowl XXVI against the Bills). From 1984-86, Grimm was named to the Pro Bowl and All-Pro teams and was also part of the 1980s All-Decade team.
Coaching Career
Since hanging 'em up in 1991, Grimm has been coaching at the NFL level. The first stop was back in the same building, as he joined the Redskins' staff as tight ends coach, first as a member of Joe Gibbs staff. When Gibbs retired, Grimm was retained under one-year coach Richie Petitbon, a Gibbs assistant. When Norv Turner was hired to replace Petitbon, Grimm was also kept as TE coach and transitioned to offensive line coach in 1997. In 2000, Turner was fired, and Grimm left the only NFL organization he had even known to join the Pittsburgh Steelers and Bill Cowher as offensive line coach.
Despite not making the playoffs from '98 to '00, the Steelers made the playoffs in four of Grimm's first five seasons. Known as a team that liked to grind it out, Grimm's persona fit well in the blue-collar town and with the team. His offensive lines helped pave the way for top-ten rushing attacks in six of his seven seasons in Pittsburgh, topping the league in his first year. The Steelers rushing attack was successful even with three different starting quarterbacks under center; Kordell Stewart, Tommy Maddox, and rookie Ben Roethlisberger. When DIck Jauron was fired from Chicago in 2004, Grimm was considered a strong candidate to replace him. Following his unsuccessful interview, Grimm was promoted to assistant head coach under Cowher.
After the 2006 season, Bill Cowher announced he was stepping down as head coach. Grimm was a finalist for the job with Pittsburgh offensive coordinator Ken Whisenhunt and Vikings defensive coordinator Mike Tomlin. After being passed over for the job, both Whisenhunt and Grimm interviewed in Arizona, with Whisenhunt beating out his colleague. The new coach quickly hired Grimm to be his assistant head coach and offensive line coach, the same position he had in Pittsburgh. In each of his seasons with the Cardinals, the team has given up 28 sacks or less despite dropping back to pass over 600 times each year. To put that in perspective, Trent Edwards was sacked 23 times in 8 games this year.
Blue Collar Mentality
Perhaps the biggest positive amongst Bills fans for hiring Grimm is his persona as a blue collar guy with a hard work ethic and a grinder's mentality. Anecdotes of his personality abound, and I'll share two to inform you of the type of guy Russ Grumm is. During his playing days, Russ would frequent a bar, and one night before practice had dinner there. During practice later that evening, a little worse for the wear, the lineman regurgitated a whole hot dog. The Hog, in name and now in action, picked up the wiener, blew it off, and ate it again.
The other involves teammate Mark May describing a 1982 Christmas party:
I iced down a keg of beer and stationed it on the landing between the first floor and basement. Russ turned the landing into his headquarters for the evening. He grabbed a chair and a Hog shot glass (a 60-ounce pitcher) and parked his butt on the landing next to the keg. Except for an occasional trip to the bathroom, we didn't see Russ on the first level all night...
So as May goes on to describe, "He was a blue collar stiff and proud of it." That fits the fabric of Buffalo well.
Final Word
While I don't have any awesome quotes from the bloggers at Revenge of the Birds or Behind the Steel Curtain about Grimm, I'll share some of their prior thoughts on the OL coach. ROTB says Grimm "has been a top candidate for a head coaching position for several years now, and this could be his farewell. In my mind that may be the biggest question mark heading into next season. Grimm has solidified Arizona's offensive trenches."
Grimm has been a finalist in at least two head coaching spots and is widely regarded around the league as a top assistant coach just waiting for a shot at the top seat. The Bills may present him with the opportunity, but will he take it? That's the only question that remains to be seen.
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His grit is what I like about him
I think he is the type of coach the Bills franchise needs right now. A change from the even keeled DJ era.
A tough, grind it out attitude is what this team needs. Good ol’ fashion football.
Let the offseason begin
When Gibb retired Grimm was retained under one-year farthead coach Richie Petitbon
The Steelers rushing buttattack was successful even with three different starting quarterbacks under center
Haha. What’s the deal MRW?
Bill Polian and AJ Smith are gone, so there's not the usual balance between "sane" and "others." Ralph has mentally checked out since 1994. It's a very dangerous time. The coalition for reason is extremely weak.
by thatguy34 on Jan 18, 2010 8:36 AM EST reply actions 2 recs
I’m gonna guess that somebody pulled a little prank on ol’ MRW. Either that or he just conducted some sort of psychological experiment on his editor in chief. Either way, the bizarre words are now gone.
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by Brian Galliford on Jan 18, 2010 8:39 AM EST up reply actions
Yeah my wife is laughing hysterically right now. “What did they say???” She finds it funny I guess.
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by MattRichWarren on Jan 18, 2010 8:52 AM EST up reply actions
Haha. I thought it was pretty funny. Just kinda odd – not normally your style to call an ex-coach a “farthead.” But then again, I wasn’t sure if you had some sort of personal vendetta against Richie Petitbon.
Bill Polian and AJ Smith are gone, so there's not the usual balance between "sane" and "others." Ralph has mentally checked out since 1994. It's a very dangerous time. The coalition for reason is extremely weak.
Classic MWR
Always good to start the week off with a good laugh :-)
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Hahaha nice
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"As the governor of Louisiana once said, the only way Chris Kelsay can lose his job is if he got caught in bed with a dead girl or a live boy."
Just give him an offer he can’t refuse Ralph, but seeing that he seems to be happy in the desert with the Cardinals and that the Bills job isn’t exactly an attractive one, I’m almost expecting him to refute the offer the Bills might give him. I just hope I’m wrong, because I think he could be a hell of a HC.
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by BillsfanfromDenmark on Jan 18, 2010 9:04 AM EST reply actions
I'm sold. Hire Grimm now
for assistant head coach, offensive line coach. He appears pretty good at that.
Also, hire Frazier as our defensive Co-ordinator…he seems pretty good at that too.
Now, when do we start interviewing for the Head Coach position?
I think I’m in the minority, but I’m still not warming to either of these guys as HC material. I just don’t see anything in their resumes that I can point to that indicates (to me, at least) they will have success at that level.
And at the very least, if I am going to take a chance on an unproven, first time head coach, I would want that guy to bring some excitement and potential with him. A young, “up and coming” type coach. I just don’t get excited about two 50 year old guys who have been passed up for multiple head coaching positions already.
But sadly, these may be our best options.
Are there any other young, up and coming college coaches out there anyone can think of?
Well coordinators and assistant NFL coaches have a much better track record recently than college HCs making the jump.
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by MattRichWarren on Jan 18, 2010 9:24 AM EST up reply actions
After this coaching search is over, can I suggest
we take some time to really delve into what this all means (the fact that the Bills are getting turned down by multiple candidates)?
Can I suggest articles discussing:
1.) On the surface, each coach that turned us down appears to have valid reasons. But does the collective number of turndowns indicate a bigger problem here? Is the HC position of the Buffalo Bills not as attractive as other HC positions?
2.) If yes, has it always been less attractive? If it hasn’t always been less attractive, how did we recently get to this place?
3.) Would it have been “better” to not even try and go after the “big name” coaches, since if we know they are going to turn us down in most cases, it just re-enforces negative perceptions of the Buffalo Bills?
4.) Are we sure we know that these “turndowns” are only because people don’t want to coach here? Put another way, do we know for sure that Ralph was willing to meet any demands their main candidates had for accepting the job?
5.) Did it even get to that point with Cowher, Shanahan? Did the discussions with these guys even get to the point where it came down to money discussions, or control of player decisions, ect?
6.) If we are willing to accept that our HC position is the least desirable in the league and we have that disadvantage, what can we do about it? Can we trade for a coach? Do we hire unproven, but potential-laden college coaches and hope they turn into the next Vince Lombardi? Or do we hire NFL co-ordinators who have been passed on by multiple NFL head coaches jobs already? Do we hire a player/coach like they used to have in the NBA? (haha, that would be sweet). Do we go with no head coach? Do we spend more on players?
I would be very interested in having these discussions at a later date.
It's my opinion that if you can't compete with the rest of the league because of an inherent disadvantage(s)
then you need to “change the game”.
If your playing basketball against someone a foot taller than you, and constantly drive the lane but get rejected every time….well, maybe it’s time to develop a good outside shot.
Russ Grimm, Leslie Frazier, if these are the guys left for us to hire (guys passed over for multiple head coaching positions, aka, guys any other team could have had but ultimately didn’t want….also obviously not the Bills first choices), then maybe you go in a completely different direction.
Hire someone with a revolutionary offensive scheme? Wasn’t there a high school offense recently that used every guy in motion? Just an example.
I think when faced with a problem like the Bills apparantly have, you need to think outside the box. Not just hire your 4th or 5th choice just because they are the only people seemingly interested.
by StroudFanClub on Jan 18, 2010 9:42 AM EST up reply actions
Not just hire your 4th or 5th choice just because they are the only people seemingly interested.
How do you know he Frazier and Grimm are our 4th and 5th choices?
It seemed as though we interviewed Fewell as a courtesy to him after we fired him. How would it look to other teams if we didn’t interview the interim head coach after the season? We put him in a better position to be hired, and he was.
Our first choice looked to be Shanahan. Shanahan wanted Bruce Allen to be his GM. If Nix was already in line to be the GM, obviously Shanahan has a conundrum. When Bruce Allen was hired to be the GM of the Redskins was it a shock that Shanahan followed? No.
That leaves us with Frazier, Harbaugh, and Grimm. With above said, Frazier was our first interviewee (?) that has a real shot at becoming the coach. Harbaugh obviously is no longer interested in the NFL at this moment. Eventually, I think he’ll be fantastic, but he clearly has his heart set on a Pac-10 championship. Grimm just finished his playoff run, and now is freely available to interview. If he declines, then you can start to ponder why Buffalo can’t get an interview.
These guys SHOULD be in the discussion to be a head coach. anywhere. It just so happens that there is only one available position. If there were 3 or 4 teams looking to hire, I guarantee that both these guys would be highly sought after.
by BillsfanDan on Jan 18, 2010 11:25 AM EST up reply actions
Harbaugh, Cowher and Shanahan were all offered the job, right?
Not just interviewed, but offered.
So that makes whoever they do hire at least their 4th option. How is that debatable?
by StroudFanClub on Jan 18, 2010 11:30 AM EST up reply actions
Only Harbaugh was outright offered the job. Shanahan wasn’t offered the job because it was mid-season. Cowher, it was all about an interview and not the job itself.
by BillsfanDan on Jan 18, 2010 11:32 AM EST up reply actions
Yeah but come on, you can't seriously tell me that if Cowher and/or Shanahan were going to accept the job
that they would still hire Frazier, right? Hence, 4th best option
by StroudFanClub on Jan 18, 2010 11:34 AM EST up reply actions
Best isn't the right term to use here.
All of these men are qualified to be a HC. The order in which they were interviewed or speculated on has no bearing on how good of an option they are as the Buffalo Bills HC.
by BillsfanDan on Jan 18, 2010 11:39 AM EST up reply actions
Agree to disagree.
I am of the opinion that if Frazier, Harbaugh, Cowher and Shanahan all were willing to accept the job, that the Bills would be hire Frazier last. This is based on Harbaugh already being offered, and my belief that the Bills would have never even reached out to Cowher or Shanahan if they were not already willing to offer the job to them, since they are known quantities.
by StroudFanClub on Jan 18, 2010 11:42 AM EST up reply actions
I hear what you are saying...
But you can’t have that mentality.
If Vince Lombardi came back and was willing to accept the job then I would offer it to him too.
But do you honestly think that Cowher wants to start from scratch? I say no, especially when it took him so long to make the Steelers into an elite team.
You can want a guy like Cowher, but the reality is that he proabaly doesn’t want to be here. A proven coach like Frazier is an excellent option because he has experience, and it appears he wants to be a HC.
by BillsfanDan on Jan 18, 2010 11:54 AM EST up reply actions
Love that I can use this quote again here....
“You can want a guy like Cowher, but the reality is that he proabaly doesn’t want to be here.”
I am reminded of a quote from a great movie:
Cameron: She never wanted me. She wanted Joey the whole time.
Patrick: Cameron, do you like the girl?
Cameron: Yeah.
Patrick: Yeah, and is she worth all this trouble?
Cameron: Well, I thought she was, but you know, I…
Patrick: Well, she is or she isn’t. See first of all, Joey is not half the man you are. Secondly, don’t let anyone ever make you feel like you don’t deserve what you want. Go for it.
by StroudFanClub on Jan 18, 2010 12:04 PM EST up reply actions
The Raiders job is the least desirable.
I already gave reasons why the Bills got passed over: http://www.buffalorumblings.com/2009/11/27/1173498/ten-obstacles-to-buffalo-hooking
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by MattRichWarren on Jan 18, 2010 10:01 AM EST up reply actions
Your right, this was a good article. I think it needs to be re-visited
To see what people think were the main problems, as opposed to merely perceived problems.
by StroudFanClub on Jan 18, 2010 10:04 AM EST up reply actions
The uncertain ownership is the biggest one. Marty Shottenheimer was fired after one season in Washington. Why? Because they got a new owner.
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by MattRichWarren on Jan 18, 2010 10:06 AM EST up reply actions
my answers
1) Yes
2) No. Ralph Wilson
3) No, because you never know
4) We don’t know, but there’s a good chance some of these guys don’t want to work for Ralph, in this situation.
5) Doubtful.
6) I’d give a hearty no to trading for a coach. That’s not really how its done anyhow. The guy has to want to come here and agree to a deal, then the teams agree on compensation.
The best we can do is hope we catch lightening in a bottle. Ralph is right that we need to get really lucky, because he’s done a good job putting this team in a rut.
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by Kurupt on Jan 18, 2010 10:20 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
The best we can do is hope we catch lightening in a bottle.
If we are trying to catch lightening in a bottle, it looks like there are two options:
1.) Hire the best co-ordinator type guy who is willing to come here.
2.) Hire an up-and comer who other people think highly of, but is maybe too young or inexperienced to become a head coach anywhere else.
I would rather go option #2, a guy who NFL people would think “this guy has major potential, he could be a great head coach in 5 years”….and just hire that guy now, instead of hiring a Frazier or Grimm type, who has been passed up multiple times for head coaching jobs and, to me, is an uninspiring choice.
I would rather place my bet on someone fulfilling potential early, than an older, already passed-over guy turning out to be great. But again, that’s just me.
by StroudFanClub on Jan 18, 2010 10:31 AM EST up reply actions
The option #2 hire is probably Sean McDermott of the Eagles.
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by MattRichWarren on Jan 18, 2010 10:40 AM EST up reply actions
Yes, more like McDermott. At least get him in for an interview.
If you could find me the offensive-minded equivalent of McDermott I would like him even better.
My point again, is that for Buffalo Bills to be relevant again they need to win lots of football games. I would rather gamble on a too-young, but oozing with potential candidate than an older, more “known quantity” who doesn’t excite. Swing for the fences.
by StroudFanClub on Jan 18, 2010 10:54 AM EST up reply actions
And I didn't bring up "trade for a coach" as an option I would necessarily endorse
moreso, I was trying to get people to think of different options. Open your mind. We are faced with unusual circumstances. We are not operating on the same level as every other NFL team. Maybe we need to do something drastically different to combat this.
We are not limited to Frazier and Grimm if we don’t want to be.
by StroudFanClub on Jan 18, 2010 10:35 AM EST up reply actions
The o-line or the QB?
Yes, Arizona may have given up 28 sacks or less in 600 pass attempts per year, but I wonder if a lot of that has to do with Warner’s exceptionally quick release and also his elusiveness.
Grimm would be fine as the Bills HC, but after watching the way Minnesota’s defense limited the explosive Dallas offense to a mere 3 points yesterday through a combination of discipline and aggressiveness, I really want Frazier. We need to wait for him patiently.
Are you and Ron fighting?
BR taking a page out of OBD’s playbook for cohesion.
This Galliford character has to go. No control over his operations.
Jonathan Stupar won the Heisman…while playing in the NFL!
I’m 24. Ralph’s got 67 years on me. I can make changes.
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by Brian Galliford on Jan 18, 2010 12:56 PM EST up reply actions
In the future, can we agree that MRW can't profile people we want the bills to hire?
Between Decosta and this, I’m sensing a pattern.
Jonathan Stupar won the Heisman…while playing in the NFL!
Agreed....and Matt should only be allowed to scout CBs
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Dude I called it before I left for the day on twitter. Because I wasn’t going to be around something big was going to happen at OBD. I scouted Leslie Frazier, too. Tom Telesco. A bunch of other guys. :-)
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