Buffalo Bills hire Chan Gailey as head coach
The Buffalo Bills' long, twisting and arduous head coaching search will officially reach its conclusion at 2:00 PM this afternoon, when the team is expected to introduce Chan Gailey as the fifteenth head coach in team history. ESPN and multiple other outlets are reporting the move as a done deal. Mark Gaughan at The Buffalo News had the story first on Monday evening.
When the Bills named Buddy Nix their new GM, Nix made it very clear that he was seeking a candidate with previous head coaching experience. Although Ralph Wilson later denied it, the team was widely rumored to be interested in a coach with expertise on offense. Gailey gives the Bills both - offensive expertise and head coaching experience.
Gailey has coached at the pro or college levels since 1974. In that 36-year run, Gailey, 58, has spent the vast majority of his time coaching offense, whether it be quarterbacks, receivers, tight ends or running the show as an offensive coordinator. He began his career as a defensive backs coach and defensive coordinator with Troy State and the Air Force, and was also Troy State's head coach in 1983-84.
Experienced at the NFL level, Gailey has been an offensive coordinator in three separate locations - Denver, Pittsburgh and Miami - and has been a head coach four different times (three in college), including a two-year stint with the Dallas Cowboys in 1998-99. Gailey's Cowboys went 18-14 in two seasons, making the playoffs - and losing in the first round - in both of those seasons.
Most recently, Gailey was the offensive coordinator in Kansas City, where he worked for a year under Herman Edwards. Prior to that, he was the head coach at Georgia Tech University for six years, amassing a 44-32 record with two bowl wins.
With that, the biggest portions of Buffalo's organizational re-structure is complete. Russ Brandon is the CEO, Buddy Nix is the GM, and Chan Gailey is the new head coach. The work isn't done, but the big pieces are in place. Here we go.
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Actual text messages from friends this morning
“Chan Gailey? Is that serious?”
“Are the Bills intentionally alienating their fans so that nobody cares when they move in a few years?”
I’m not going to respond….
~K
"As the governor of Louisiana once said, the only way Chris Kelsay can lose his job is if he got caught in bed with a dead girl or a live boy."
by Kurupt on Jan 19, 2010 9:46 AM EST reply actions 1 recs
Imagine how cool and exciting this day should could have been?
If we would have hired even a “mid-level” name like Jim Harbaugh, a young, up and coming, energetic guy who would come in here, bring a new attitude to our team, and possibly make Buffalo into the job he would spend the rest of his career at.
I would love to send out the mass text to all of my friends, Bills fans and non Bills fans, rubbing it in that, “you better be scared….Yes, the Bills have sucked for 10 years, but now that we have (coach X, in this example Harbaugh) you are officially on notice. The AFC East will be ours in 2 years….so enjoy it now!”
Now, well, I’m more embarrased than anything. I guarantee Jets, Dolphins and Patriots fans are not scared or pissed at us right now, like I was when Miami hired Parcells or when the Jets hired Rex Ryan. You just knew they would be better for it. I can’t say the same in this case.
The Bills management has robbed me of what should have been a hopeful, exciting day.
by StroudFanClub on Jan 19, 2010 10:08 AM EST up reply actions 5 recs
StroudFanClub:
+100 rec’d.
My exact thoughts.
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by Michael_Necci on Jan 19, 2010 10:32 AM EST up reply actions
yes recd
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by norcaliangelsfan on Jan 19, 2010 12:33 PM EST up reply actions
I feel exactly the same way I did when the Bills hired Jauron
We have to support the guy, but I agree with SFC….I’m more embarrassed than anything—-especially since the Bills seemed to be aiming higher. However, if he does well than all of he disappointment fades away.
I hope a year from now, as the Bills prepare for their next playoff opponent, we’re joking with ourselves about feeling so bad about the hire.
"They're Killin' Me Whitey. They're Killin' Me" -- Lou Saban
I got:
“I’m so sorry to hear about the hire. Are you ok?”
“Is Gailey the guy who won the UFL with Losman?”
and
“Did this take so long because Gailey had a guy on the other line asking about some white walls like in Major League?”
Aaron Maybin is Chris Ellis 2.0.
by Port Royal on Jan 19, 2010 10:15 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
"Did this take so long because Gailey had a guy on the other line asking about some white walls like in Major League?"
That’s the winner.
Bill Polian and AJ Smith are gone, so there's not the usual balance between "sane" and "others." Ralph has mentally checked out since 1994. It's a very dangerous time. The coalition for reason is extremely weak.
I heard the Bills already have a life size cut out of Ralph Wilson in the locker room where they’ll pull off a piece for every win in an effort to keep the team from moving to miami….errr….toronto.
by Slick Shifty on Jan 19, 2010 10:51 AM EST up reply actions
it should be switched.
start with him in his depends then win a game to put a piece of clothing on.
by BillsfanDan on Jan 19, 2010 11:05 AM EST up reply actions
i just got one
“Are the Bills trying to keep losing?”
Jonathan Stupar won the Heisman…while playing in the NFL!
My father asked me if Chan Gailey was a comedy act
As my mother once said, common sense isn't as common as it should be, I'm looking at you Ralph, get the Front Office in order, THEN worry about who your HC is....
the guy couldn’t cut it as the KC OC, pathetic
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why dont you put some effort into bashing the guy
your going to crush him for one stint with an awful team under an awful HC? He the KC offense watchable and his side of the ball was the only reason they were competitive. He was great as the Steelers OC, got the Cowboys to the playoffs twice in a row as the head coach and helped the Dolphins with success later. I don’t think he’s the best candidate but he is NOT pathetic. He’s a guy who has the tools to turn around our franchise, it could have been a lot worse.
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by poz on Jan 19, 2010 3:24 PM EST up reply actions 3 recs
now that’s how you respond
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by J2 on Jan 19, 2010 3:25 PM EST up reply actions
… Just got THE text lol. Well im going to try and be positive about this and wait until we get to the season to start judging. Free agency and the draft should be interesting.
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by bflo on Jan 19, 2010 9:47 AM EST via mobile reply actions
Here’s my response – Nooooooo button
Bill Polian and AJ Smith are gone, so there's not the usual balance between "sane" and "others." Ralph has mentally checked out since 1994. It's a very dangerous time. The coalition for reason is extremely weak.
I voted no
because i’m not happy. I don’t want to be happy about this because I don’t see a huge change coming to the organization. Maybe i’ll be pleasantly surprised, but i’m fully expecting to spend gameday half asleep in the big chair.
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by TheAfghanTwilight on Jan 19, 2010 9:53 AM EST reply actions
All the negative hysteria
was hilarious yesterday.
The FACT is, the guy brings us an aggressive offensive mentality and experience, which is exactly we’ve lacked for so many years…….so no complaints here. Considering how many people did NOT want the HC Bills job, we did just fine.
Relax, guys. Expect the team to score some points this year and at least be somewhat entertaining which is a whole lot better than much of the last decade.
Aggressive?
I’ve read more about him callings runs until blue in the face, going with draws on 3rd down and punting on 4th and 1 at the opposition’s 35 than anything else. He sure seems like more of the same conservative crap that doesn’t cut it.
~K
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by Kurupt on Jan 19, 2010 10:02 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
He also ran Thigpen out of the Pistol formation. I wouldn’t pigeon-hole him.
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by Brian Galliford on Jan 19, 2010 10:04 AM EST up reply actions
Brian In ur opinion does this make it more likely we draft a QB
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by BRIANMULHALL on Jan 19, 2010 10:05 AM EST up reply actions
I have absolutely no idea.
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by Brian Galliford on Jan 19, 2010 10:05 AM EST up reply actions
No one has any idea, I think the Bills will take a guy if say Bradford or Claussen somehow crazily falls to him
But i think we see a vet for a one year stop gap and then make a play for a guy in 2011. Of course, I could be wrong and we end up with some dude in the 6th round touted as our savior, wouldn’t put that past the Bills.
As my mother once said, common sense isn't as common as it should be, I'm looking at you Ralph, get the Front Office in order, THEN worry about who your HC is....
Are we looking at one season here
Or multiple seasons??? Those were all comments I saw multiple times when discussing the Chan.
What else was he going to do last year with a terrible RB, OL and a rookie QB from a small school?!?! I will say, at least he did something other than what we’ve seen the Bills do with all their square pegs…
~K
"As the governor of Louisiana once said, the only way Chris Kelsay can lose his job is if he got caught in bed with a dead girl or a live boy."
by Kurupt on Jan 19, 2010 10:10 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
That’s my point. He tailored to his personnel.
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by Brian Galliford on Jan 19, 2010 10:11 AM EST up reply actions
Couldn't agree more.
I think you, myself, and maybe a few more bloggers here get it. In general, I sense a lot of knee-jerkers and scheme-focused bloggers here that need to be taught a few things ;-)
Great plays don't make great players; great players make great plays.
i see a lot of lifelong bills fans that are tired of being mired in mediocrity and are struggling with the fact that people are stopping at nothing to find the bright side in hiring the 15th best coaching candidate we went after.
by quantumuprising on Jan 19, 2010 11:00 AM EST up reply actions
Let’s not be so divisive, folks. We’re all in the same boat. I don’t think anyone is infatuated with the move, and people will see it at different levels of relevance. Put the stones back in your pockets.
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by Brian Galliford on Jan 19, 2010 11:03 AM EST up reply actions
If we were to acquire Ty Thigpen
I know one person who would be infatuated by the pairing….
~K
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by Kurupt on Jan 19, 2010 11:12 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
Actually as soon as the Gailey news broke yesterday I was thinking “Brohm out, Thigpen in”
Jesus, if that mouthy little f***er didn’t manage to get open so often I think I would have punched him in the face years ago. - Tom Brady on Wes Welker
by CanadianBillsFan on Jan 19, 2010 11:51 AM EST up reply actions
Agreed
I voted undecided, because I think it will take 2-3 years before we know what we got, and I would say that if we hired Gailey, Frazier, Grimm, Cowher, etc. You get the point. With our roster it is going to take time. I think the one year turnaround coaches either did so because they took over a loaded team, or were just plain lucky. Neither scenario pertains to the Bills. I’m not that upset by this hire.
Exactly, Undecided was my take as well, until we get much better talent in here
It wouldn’t really matter who the coach is, so we let Nix fix the lack of players issue, then either Chan succeeds, or we get a new coach who can make due with real talent.
As my mother once said, common sense isn't as common as it should be, I'm looking at you Ralph, get the Front Office in order, THEN worry about who your HC is....
If you are trying to peg me (gross)
You’d be wrong! I said it was something that he actually didn’t do what we’ve seen the Bills do with players and try to force them into a scheme they aren’t a good fit in. I just think over the long haul his run first, seemingly conservative playcalling/coaching will come out. Let’s hope not because we need more than that.
I am kind of intrigued by running a spread, albeit unlikely, because it might lead to an interedting offense…
Time to find some speed on offense, too.
~K
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by Kurupt on Jan 19, 2010 11:08 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
I think we are on the same page ;-)
Players first, scheme second. Spread, Tampa 2, Triple Option, 3-4…I don’t really care and I’m not committed to any single scheme. What can your players do? What can’t your players do? Just run whatever scheme features the players.
Great plays don't make great players; great players make great plays.
I think that would be the 1st and ten punt
"Do you even hear how totally bat sh!t insane you sound?" - Archer
Yep.
That’s what bad personnel decisions will do for you.
Great plays don't make great players; great players make great plays.
He also was aggressive for at least one play at GT.
by twoeightnine on Jan 19, 2010 10:12 AM EST up reply actions
Can anyone tell me what kind of philopshy he will implement in Buffalo
is he west coast or a vertical passing game will he stick with the cover two most likely or is he more of a 34 front guy
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I think he’s a ball-control guy. I’d expect to see very few go-routes.
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by TheAfghanTwilight on Jan 19, 2010 9:55 AM EST up reply actions
Depends on the situation I think. Historically he favors the run game but he opened it up in Kansas City when he had to with Tyler Thigpen.
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by PerryTuttle22 on Jan 19, 2010 9:56 AM EST up reply actions
play action tho righ t? seem routes to nelson could be fun to watch
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by BRIANMULHALL on Jan 19, 2010 9:56 AM EST up reply actions
Gailey could decide that none of the young guys fit his agenda as starters. I hope not. I really hope not.
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by TheAfghanTwilight on Jan 19, 2010 9:57 AM EST up reply actions
i know im hoping we play a panthers type offense
with alot of runnig behind a revamper big OLINE and then take our shots down the field to Lee Evans and Play action will hopefully open up the middle to Nelson
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by BRIANMULHALL on Jan 19, 2010 9:59 AM EST up reply actions
Well, i’m on board for Lee Evans finally becoming a reliable playmaker. Take Losman out of the equation, and I wonder how spectacular Evans’ stats look?
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by TheAfghanTwilight on Jan 19, 2010 10:00 AM EST up reply actions
im not impressed with his ball kills
when u watch Sydney Rice play he attacks the ball and wont be denied Evans isnt really like that he is like a Santana Moos or desean Jackson he needs to be open and behind the defender and led nicley then he can cath the ball in stride and make big plays
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by BRIANMULHALL on Jan 19, 2010 10:03 AM EST up reply actions
not the same type of player though
Sidney Rice is big and can use his body to attack the ball and edge out defenders. Lee has to use his speed as opposed to his physicality and that requires some creative playcalling. Something we have never had under Jauron.
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He used Tony G a ton before they traded him, I expect Nelson to explode this next season if our QB has time to throw
As my mother once said, common sense isn't as common as it should be, I'm looking at you Ralph, get the Front Office in order, THEN worry about who your HC is....
You're expecting Nelson to explode
because Gailey used one of, if not the greatest TEs ever a lot? He was the Chiefs #1 WR for years, I would have expected the fans to murder him if he didn’t.
by twoeightnine on Jan 19, 2010 12:54 PM EST up reply actions
True, but he kept feeding the man the ball and Nelson is AS athletic a player as Tony G was
We in fact have a better receiving corps that KC has, not by much, but better, so I expect him to use Nelson alot since most teams put 2 guys on Evans, especially if we lose Owens.
Nix and Chan, the new Cheech and Chong of the Bills, hopefully they will be as successful in business as they were, and not so much the drug fueled comedy act....
He is? Based on what?
Gonzalez was and is one of the all time athletic freaks to play in the NFL. First team all american at two positions in high school, three sport letterman, all american in college, power forward on a Cal team that made the sweet sixteen… you just put Nelson in some HUGE shoes.
by twoeightnine on Jan 19, 2010 1:31 PM EST up reply actions
I'm expecting Nelson to literally explode
I have a very weird understanding of biology.
Jonathan Stupar won the Heisman…while playing in the NFL!
More excited to see who his DC is....and what philosophy they bring.
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Erhardt-Perkins style offense
Think PIT in the 90’s, NYJ of today.
But he will adapt, as seen with Thigpen and the pistol formation he used.
Trying to think of positives
I’ve read he ran a shotgun offense, and also a run-heavy offense…so can tailor the offense to what players he has.
He’s coached in cold weather…Pitt and Denver…
He’s coached in 4 Super Bowls (I’ll ignore his record though)…
Thurman said he’ll get in your face in practice and is very detailed. Good to hear when I also read he’s stoic on the sidelines with a blank stare.
He’s got kind of a cool name…
He has a beer gut….
C’mon…I’m trying here….
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I won’t believe it until i hear it from Joe Logan.
You're not drunk if you can lie on the floor without holding on.
by PerryTuttle22 on Jan 19, 2010 9:55 AM EST reply actions 1 recs
Also does anyone think we will make a big splash in FA or via trade this offseason to try and get the fans interested again… i know NIX said that he isnt a big nae kinda GM but they need to create some fan interest after these two hirings and Brandon is a crafty marketer
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I’d bet the biggest splash they might make would be re-signing Owens.
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by TheAfghanTwilight on Jan 19, 2010 9:58 AM EST up reply actions
Gainey IS the “big splash”! And, what part of “we don’t care about fan interest” is elluding you?
"If you're happy, stay happy" - Mike Riley
He would probably make a big one in the pool doing a cannonball, does that count?
As my mother once said, common sense isn't as common as it should be, I'm looking at you Ralph, get the Front Office in order, THEN worry about who your HC is....
I always thought more highly of the Bills fans than that.
From this site and listening to Bills fans on the radio, I always thought that Bills fans were smarter than to be taken in by some big name signing……just does not make sense to me…..but then what was that whole Terrel Owens thing?
The Bills have a number of great pieces in place. I think you just need someone at the top to provide some long term continuity and a solid direction. Are Nix and Gailey the guys? Who knows.
The good news is if you hire Cowher next year, Gailey can stay on as OC and Ass HC.
by NorthLeft12 on Jan 19, 2010 10:03 AM EST up reply actions
If the Bills didn’t get Cowher this year, Cowher isn’t ever going to become their head coach. The opportunity couldn’t have been better for the team this year. We all know how that went!
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by TheAfghanTwilight on Jan 19, 2010 10:05 AM EST up reply actions
If only there were going to be splashy FA's available...
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by Kurupt on Jan 19, 2010 10:05 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
Also does anyone think we will make a big splash in FA
Buddy Nix unequivocally said that the Bills wouldn’t be the “big splash” team in free agency. With the way that man’s going, there’s zero reason to not believe him.
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by Brian Galliford on Jan 19, 2010 10:05 AM EST up reply actions
LOL. It’s so true, it hurts in ways.
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by TheAfghanTwilight on Jan 19, 2010 10:06 AM EST up reply actions
is kevin walter too much moeny to think he could replace reed
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by BRIANMULHALL on Jan 19, 2010 10:08 AM EST up reply actions
Which means that they can expect no sellouts and a total boycott of the organisation.
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by BillsfanfromDenmark on Jan 19, 2010 10:32 AM EST up reply actions
It’ll never happen. People never back up the talk they so boldly display.
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by TheAfghanTwilight on Jan 19, 2010 10:50 AM EST up reply actions
Chad Pennington
As my mother once said, common sense isn't as common as it should be, I'm looking at you Ralph, get the Front Office in order, THEN worry about who your HC is....
low day
lowest day for me as a bills fan since jauron was hired. MCM before that. super bowls before that. i will reserve my right to be negative as i am done being positive. it only took 28 years…
I'm undecided on this hire
partially because it does seem that he has the attributes that Nix (and most of us fans) were looking (offensive minded, HC experience at a high level)for but I was kind of hoping for a more firey leader on the sidelines, you know someone who brings a warrior mentality to the job. I guess we will wait and see how this all plays out but, as was posted here many times yesterday, he better have some very good coordinators coming with him to get this thing on track. And at least he wanted to come to Buffalo (a point that should not be understated).
I do have a question though………. since he will be getting paid considerably less (he damn well better be)than the $10 mil we were willing to throw at Cower and Shanahan….does that mean more money for QUALITY free agent signings? One can dream can’t one?
It rubs the lotion on its skin or it gets the hose again
thats what i was thinking
but its seems unlikely i guess… i want them to sign kevin Walter or someone like that and then draft Jordan Shipley in te second rd and let TO and Reed go so we will have some solid recivers that can get open on shorter routes so our OLine isnt expected to hold up for a long time in pass protection
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by BRIANMULHALL on Jan 19, 2010 10:11 AM EST up reply actions
ya, that sig is wierd....
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i spent about 5 minutes trying to make fun of it last night, came up with nothing.
Jonathan Stupar won the Heisman…while playing in the NFL!
dont worry.........Buddy Nix might have us all bent over soon enough.........
might be more of us having his baby.
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by norcaliangelsfan on Jan 19, 2010 12:52 PM EST up reply actions
ewwwww but very funny!
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by Scrumtrulescent on Jan 19, 2010 10:15 AM EST reply actions
Frazier never offered job
Mort just replied to my tweet asking if Frazier turned down Bills:
mortreport
@MattKabel He definitely did not turn down Bills. He wasn’t offered. And league rules wouldn’t allow that to happen but they wanted HC experience
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Hmm. Tweet this, tweet that. It’s all so hit or miss that I rarely believe things when they don’t come from the horse’s mouth. If it’s true, what’s with the smokescreen about Frazier being the leader in the clubhouse? I’d say it’s analysts’ fishing for stories.
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by TheAfghanTwilight on Jan 19, 2010 10:56 AM EST up reply actions
uh, coming from mort or shefter, it usually is from the horse’s mouth, or at least from someone else in the stable.
if he says frazier was never offered the job, i’m willing to be there’s a 99% chance he was really never offered the job.
by quantumuprising on Jan 19, 2010 11:01 AM EST up reply actions
There’ a 100% Chance he was never offered the job. Frazier is still in the playoffs and could not have been offered the job, that’s tampering – and that’s what Mort was saying.
What I’m not sure I agree with, is Mort saying that Frazier couldn’t have turned them down. Frazier certainly could have told them he was no longer interested, so the Bills called Gailey.
Bill Polian and AJ Smith are gone, so there's not the usual balance between "sane" and "others." Ralph has mentally checked out since 1994. It's a very dangerous time. The coalition for reason is extremely weak.
Chan Gailey Positives
He has coached both offensive and defnse as coordinator and special teams so he is experienced form both sides of the ball …everyone gets better with experience so i expect better than what he did in Dallas and GT… i hope he assembles a great staff and with the amount of time he spent in the NFL i am sure there are some people willing to come along with him to Buffalo
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Another Positive
From what I can see his overall coaching record has more wins than losses haha…maybe we’ll get 8-8 this year!!
2:00 Press Conference
Chan Gailey walks out and the Bills introduce him as the new……. offensive coordinator
The lights go dark.
The intro to Welcome to the Jungle starts blaring in the loudspeakers of the field house.
Through a cloud of smoke and fireworks, Bill Cowher emerges with a Buffalo Bills Hat and shirt on, arm in arm with Jim Kelly and Thurman Thomas.
any chance?
by ra001m on Jan 19, 2010 10:21 AM EST reply actions 17 recs
LOL, well, points for badassery.
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by Brian Galliford on Jan 19, 2010 10:29 AM EST up reply actions
That would be pretty funny.
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by MattRichWarren on Jan 19, 2010 10:34 AM EST up reply actions
So wait. Are Jim Kelly and Thurman Thomas socialites now?
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by TheAfghanTwilight on Jan 19, 2010 10:56 AM EST up reply actions
Deffinatly Badass!
God i wish that this would come true.
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by CanadianBillsFan on Jan 19, 2010 11:54 AM EST up reply actions
yea seriously, thanks bro
you made me feel a bit better. That was great.
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“where he worked for a year under Herman Edwards.”
Hope he doesn’t have too much in common with Herm “Play to win the game” Edwards.
The thing that sucks right now is that he, as far as fans are concerned, isn’t going to be given fair shake. The Bills are going to have a hard time selling tickets this year – but we have to build a team from the ground up.
Let Nix and Chan do their thing. We’ve suffered through a bunch of craptastic teams anyways – can this really be much worse (if yes – explain why)?
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I don’t know, but I do know that there’s going to an immense pressure right from the get go on Nix and Gailey to make this team a winner, because fans aren’t going to accept a couple of crappy seasons from them.
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by BillsfanfromDenmark on Jan 19, 2010 10:33 AM EST up reply actions
That’s actually a really good point. People have been saying there is going to be insanely low expectations, which is true – but fans are starting off much higher on the pissed off scale. They’re pissed now, and a few questionable personnel moves followed by some losing is only going to enrage the fan base further.
Had they hired a Cowher or any of the young coordinators, I think the general consensus would have been: “Okay, we’ve got an actual coach now. Let’s make some moves and in a couple years we might have something.” Now, one horrible season and the fan base is going to use it as justification that this was a bad hire.
Bill Polian and AJ Smith are gone, so there's not the usual balance between "sane" and "others." Ralph has mentally checked out since 1994. It's a very dangerous time. The coalition for reason is extremely weak.
by thatguy34 on Jan 19, 2010 10:39 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
It’s true. I don’t see how this team can be competitive next season. Then again, who in the world thought the Jets would be where they are? It’ll take a ton to build a line like the Jets have.
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by TheAfghanTwilight on Jan 19, 2010 11:02 AM EST up reply actions
" the fan base is going to use it as justification that this was a bad hire."
It’s the worst hire since Hank “They took the Sails out of our Wind” Bullough!!!
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Patience.
Impatience is part of the big-picture problem. Poor overall personnel decisions are probably the main reason for the hole that the team is in. Take care of the future and the future will take care of the present.
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What Are The Chances
Trent Edwards is back @ QB for this team?
"It took twenty five years to get there, and they did it in championship style" - Van Miller 1/20/91.
Insanely low.
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by Brian Galliford on Jan 19, 2010 10:36 AM EST up reply actions
Trent's issues,
primarily lack of durability and confidence, are well-documented. If Trent is allowed to compete for the job, do you think he could rebound with a new head coach, clean slate, and a fresh start?
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Nix and Chan, the new Cheech and Chong of the Bills, hopefully they will be as successful in business as they were, and not so much the drug fueled comedy act....
so lets say we get a claussen or a bradford or another “franchise type” qb in the draft. does he start right away? if we let him sit a year, who is our qb next year. Fitzpatrick?
by quantumuprising on Jan 19, 2010 11:05 AM EST up reply actions
Good god no, we do NOT start the young guy with our craptastic Oline, he would be just as busted up as Trent is
If we allowed him to go from day one, were better off taking a vet in FA and letting them get the crap kicked out of them for a year till the Oline issues are fixed.
Nix and Chan, the new Cheech and Chong of the Bills, hopefully they will be as successful in business as they were, and not so much the drug fueled comedy act....
that’s what im trying to say…i agree we don’t let the FNG start, but who does start? I think most people would agree fitz is a great backup but not a starter…who do we get in FA then to protect the rook? mcnabb? pennington? I don’t want another backup…
by quantumuprising on Jan 19, 2010 1:16 PM EST up reply actions
McNabb, Pennington and possibly Chad Campbell will be free, or possibly *gag* Caulpepper
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Epic Fail
The Buddy Nix hire, which was supposed to restore respect and credibility to the football department, is already an abject failure.
He had to get the right coach and couldn’t so much as get a credible candidate to return his calls… even the candidates he worked with in San Diego. What sort of endorsement is that?
They’ve settled for a Jauronian non-candidate, and the deck chairs have been rearranged on the Titanic for the umpteenth time.
I’ve actually turned the corner, and started looking forward to the day they move and I don’t have to watch the Bills play the last-place team from another division seven times a year, and can actually watch NFL football. It’s gone from a passion to an obligation I’d just as soon be relieved of.
by Brian in Shortsville on Jan 19, 2010 10:38 AM EST reply actions
already an abject failure.
0-0
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by MattRichWarren on Jan 19, 2010 10:42 AM EST up reply actions
Brian Schottenheimer, Jim Harbaugh, Russ Grimm, Ron Rivera, Cowher, and who know how many we haven’t heard about? He’s 0- quite a few.
He doesn’t block, tackle, or score touchdowns. He puts the football department together, and couldn’t get the guys he wanted to talk to to return his calls.
by Brian in Shortsville on Jan 19, 2010 10:46 AM EST up reply actions
The team’s record is 0-0.
They sat down with Shanahan, Cowher, Harbaugh… they returned calls.
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by MattRichWarren on Jan 19, 2010 10:47 AM EST up reply actions
is that Nix or is that Ralph and his lack of succession planning?
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Care to elaborate on how it’s Nix’s fault that nobody wants to coach a team that could literally lose its owner at any moment and has no clear succession plan in place?
Bill Polian and AJ Smith are gone, so there's not the usual balance between "sane" and "others." Ralph has mentally checked out since 1994. It's a very dangerous time. The coalition for reason is extremely weak.
or Chans fault for that matter?
this guy is going to get beat up and all he did was accept his dream job…
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Yup, neither Chan’s nor Nix’s nor Brandon’s fault. They couldn’t sell Buffalo to a huge pool of qualified candidates because of Ralph and now they have to turn around and try to sell Chan to the fan base. I don’t envy them.
It’s not Nix’s or Brandon’s fault that everybody and their brother turned the Bills down and they were forced to go to their 9th favorite candidate. They did the best they could with the hand Ralph dealt them.
Bill Polian and AJ Smith are gone, so there's not the usual balance between "sane" and "others." Ralph has mentally checked out since 1994. It's a very dangerous time. The coalition for reason is extremely weak.
They better start a door-to-door campaign for all season ticket holders.
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by TheAfghanTwilight on Jan 19, 2010 11:04 AM EST up reply actions
That is as good and accurate a read of this situation as I have seen in a while
It all comes back to an owner who is 92, does not have any family member in line to take over and has said he will sell the team. Does NOT have a partial owner who can buy the rest from him like Ross did down in Miami with Robbie, so no sane coach who can get work next year when more teams are looking for new coaches would take it.
Nix and Chan, the new Cheech and Chong of the Bills, hopefully they will be as successful in business as they were, and not so much the drug fueled comedy act....
Nix knew what he was walking into in re: Ralph’s mortality when he took the GM job. Nix should have at least enough clout and respect to get guys HE’S WORKED WITH BEFORE to get on board with him and believe they can turn it around. If he can’t sell the job, he shouldn’t have the job.
by Brian in Shortsville on Jan 19, 2010 10:57 AM EST up reply actions
So Nix should be fired because he took a job that in all likelihood, no one else would have wanted? That’s an interesting argument.
They can’t get up and coming head coaches to interview here because of Ralph, you think they’re gonna get some almighty and powerful GM to come here that can strong arm coaches to come here?
Bill Polian and AJ Smith are gone, so there's not the usual balance between "sane" and "others." Ralph has mentally checked out since 1994. It's a very dangerous time. The coalition for reason is extremely weak.
Ralph hired Nix, preusmably thinking Nix could build a winner in Buffalo, after basically no search process at all.
Nix took the job thinking he could get the people he needed to build a winner in Buffalo, with all that entails. He put a lot of emphasis at his introductory press conference on getting the right Head Coach.
And ended up settling for Plan K.
by Brian in Shortsville on Jan 19, 2010 11:05 AM EST up reply actions
Just so I have a complete understanding of your argument:
You’re saying that if the Bills had hired Marc Ross, Eric DeCosta, Greg Gabriel, etc – guys that have been in the league for the same period of time as Nix – that the Bills would have been able to entice those coaches to accept a position here?
Bill Polian and AJ Smith are gone, so there's not the usual balance between "sane" and "others." Ralph has mentally checked out since 1994. It's a very dangerous time. The coalition for reason is extremely weak.
I’m saying that’s part of the job description, and Nix failed at it incredibly, horribly, miserably, fantastically and publicly.
by Brian in Shortsville on Jan 19, 2010 11:14 AM EST up reply actions
A GM that doesn’t have the juice to get the guys he wants to work with him is a BAD GM.
by Brian in Shortsville on Jan 19, 2010 11:18 AM EST up reply actions
That didn’t answer my question.
Do you believe the other GM candidates would have done any better?
Bill Polian and AJ Smith are gone, so there's not the usual balance between "sane" and "others." Ralph has mentally checked out since 1994. It's a very dangerous time. The coalition for reason is extremely weak.
Yes.
If any of those guys had taken the job, after a comprehensive search led Brandon and Wilson to them, they’d have had a pool of coaching candidates in mind from among their contacts, those candidates would have at least listened to the sales pitch, and the Bills wouldn’t be 2 1/2 hours away from hiring a Jauronian non-candidate.
But still, should’ve would’ve could’ve… the hired a GM, and the GM can’t get his calls returned. The results are what the results are.
by Brian in Shortsville on Jan 19, 2010 11:31 AM EST up reply actions
Way to pick and choose the words from the end of the statement.
Take a look around the internet, the papers, the tv. Respect and credibility are at zero now. At least the Bills are in the news! As the national punch line for the day.
by twoeightnine on Jan 19, 2010 10:47 AM EST up reply actions
at this point, what would be the harm of changing the agenda for the presser, and instead of using it to introduce Gailey, they use it to announce the firing of Nix and the start-over for a real search for a real GM?
by Brian in Shortsville on Jan 19, 2010 10:51 AM EST up reply actions
They’ll change the uniforms and the fanbase will rejoice. It’s gotten to that point, i’d say.
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by TheAfghanTwilight on Jan 19, 2010 11:05 AM EST up reply actions
Hey the Cards changed their jerseys and look what happened… a few years later SB and playoffs.. it could happen lol. But yes new jerseys would excite me more than Chan Gailey hiring right now
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Go back to the 90s era uniforms or my favorites, the 60's style stuff, man I loved the old school Buffalo on the helmet.
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Careful what you wish for
Where I live, I get to watch not only the Lions, but I can turn the channel & watch the Browns on a weekly basis. I’d love to watch the Bills every week, but I will not by the NFL package. Way too much $.
Hasn't our real weakness been
Poor decision making on the field by the coaching staff. Poor talent evaluation of the players in FA and moving up in the draft and selecting the McCargo’s and Loosman’s. Not having good teachers on the sidelines. Not recoginizing how a player can help the team when the player has shown ineffectivness at the position drafted at. Offensively, we have struggled, defensively we have been average mainly due to the poorness of the offense. We are getting the exact overhaul that we asked for. Minus the coordinators which are soon to come. Good Teachers, Good drafts and a few helpful FA’s and we should be looking Okay to begin with.
Is it really average talent or just poor coaching, how important is depth and experience.
wtf!!!!
you’ve got to be S#$%@in me! Chan Gailey! Chan Gailey!!!!!! what kinda drugs is Ralf on anyways!!!!!! is this an attempt to make the team sooooo bad that the fans will be happy to see them go to L.A.!!!!!!! for the first time in my life im rethinking the thought of being a hard core Bills fan, im hurt by this move if it goes down!
Voted Undecided
But feel more indifferent.
I think he’s capable of winning if he’s got the talent. As of right now, he doesn’t have the talent.
We might suck next year, but if we don’t I don’t think it will be Gailey’s fault.
Seems to me the only question is if he can be a team builder, give us direction and an identity, because that’s the mode we’re in. I wonder how much time they’re going to give him.
I, too, wonder how long the contract will be. I’d imagine it’s your standard 3-year deal. I also wonder if they’re saving a good bit by hiring an out-of-work guy.
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by TheAfghanTwilight on Jan 19, 2010 11:07 AM EST up reply actions
So I guess Gailey acted as his own offensive coordinator in Dallas.
How about some other OC names?
Patrick Nix – was Gailey’s OC, RB, and WR coach at Georgia Tech
Buddy Geis – worked with Gailey in Dallas and GT as WR coach, former CFL OC, former WR coach in Green Bay, 55 y/o
Alex Van Pelt – He’s here….
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by MattRichWarren on Jan 19, 2010 10:46 AM EST reply actions
Curtis Modkins – RB coach in Arizona was on Gailey’s staff at GT and KC
DC candidates could certainly by Jim Bates, Gailey’s DC in Dallas.
Jon Tenuta – former GT DC, worked at ND under Charlie Weis as DC, head coach asperations
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by MattRichWarren on Jan 19, 2010 10:56 AM EST up reply actions
the prospect of hiring jon tenuta makes me want to vomit.
we’re talking about a guy who couldn’t coach his defense enough to recognize eligible receivers against navy.
by quantumuprising on Jan 19, 2010 11:03 AM EST up reply actions
LOL Navy. Throwing passes. I didn’t watch any ND football this year but I do know that Navy passes like five times a game. :-)
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by MattRichWarren on Jan 19, 2010 11:11 AM EST up reply actions
I’m not disagreeing with you BTW.
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by MattRichWarren on Jan 19, 2010 11:11 AM EST up reply actions
basically, navy had a wide receiver covered up all game for run plays, so he was always ineligible. Then, on one play, he was off the line of scrimmage, and all the nd db’s thought he was still ineligible. So navy threw a 40 yard pass and scored an easy td.
tenuta was pretty vicious at georgia tech, but was an absolute flop at ND. not the kind of guy i want.
by quantumuprising on Jan 19, 2010 11:27 AM EST up reply actions
Nice. Good for Navy.
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by MattRichWarren on Jan 19, 2010 1:40 PM EST up reply actions
no doubt. just saying, a guy that can’t come up with a new defensive game plan over the previous year against the same team or teach his guys which players are eligible receivers in college is not the guy i want coaching my nfl defense.
by quantumuprising on Jan 19, 2010 2:32 PM EST up reply actions
Bob Sanders was linebackers coach when Gailey was in Miami.
Bill Polian and AJ Smith are gone, so there's not the usual balance between "sane" and "others." Ralph has mentally checked out since 1994. It's a very dangerous time. The coalition for reason is extremely weak.
So he might actually become the DC. He was DC in Green Bay and did a good job.
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by MattRichWarren on Jan 19, 2010 11:20 AM EST up reply actions
That is deffinatly a move that I would support. I think that Sanders was of our better coaches last season.
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by CanadianBillsFan on Jan 19, 2010 11:59 AM EST up reply actions
That would work for me
Nix and Chan, the new Cheech and Chong of the Bills, hopefully they will be as successful in business as they were, and not so much the drug fueled comedy act....
ehh i don't love that.
I’d prefer a guy like Bates or Lebeau (not actual Lebeau obviously) but then again, that may not be an option.
Jonathan Stupar won the Heisman…while playing in the NFL!
Bates is an option.
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by MattRichWarren on Jan 19, 2010 1:40 PM EST up reply actions
Mike Shula: Worked with Gailey on Wannstedt’s staff in Miami.
Dan Reeves: interviewed with SF last offseason for the coordinator job; worked with Gailey in Denver
Aaron Maybin is Chris Ellis 2.0.
Good names.
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by MattRichWarren on Jan 19, 2010 11:12 AM EST up reply actions
I would so be on board with Mike Shula.
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by norcaliangelsfan on Jan 19, 2010 12:38 PM EST up reply actions
Chan did coach Jason Garrett in Dallas. His numbers weren’t bad either.
Confucius say, "Man who go to bed with itchy butt, wake up with smelly finger."
But we aren’t payin’ 3M+ a year to coach offense unless he is named HC in waiting or some crap like that. And that even assumes he doesn’t already have that in his contract in Dallas.
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by MattRichWarren on Jan 19, 2010 1:41 PM EST up reply actions
Geis is actually a pretty decent OC as I’ve seen from his days in the CFL. Wouldn’t mind him comming into this coaching staff… but not as OC though, he’s more of a positional coach than an OC.
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by CanadianBillsFan on Jan 19, 2010 11:57 AM EST up reply actions
The Bills next OC...
Ted Marchibroda! I don’t think the Bills team has seen creativity since he left
I will wait until the official announcement at 2 PM, then...
I am finished, period. I am done being set up and then let down by this team.
I will not allow it to happen again.
At least Leslie Frazier would have come in here and worked his tail off. I had gradually gotten truly excited about him coming in here as HC.
And now this?
The Dick Jauron version of the K-Gun...the Squirt Gun.
Are you implying Chan Gailey won’t work his tail off?
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by MattRichWarren on Jan 19, 2010 10:48 AM EST up reply actions
I was never on the Frazier bandwagon. He’s had a ton of talent to work with – that can make a mediocre coordinator look great.
I bet Fewell would be amazing as well with that talent
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it's not about how good a coordinator they were.
HC is a completely different job. People like Frazier because of his demeanor and the respect he demands from his players. My problem is that the hiring of Gailey seems to be on the basis of his skills as a coordinator- and that, apparently, Bill Cowher thinks he’s a good coach.
Jonathan Stupar won the Heisman…while playing in the NFL!
but he was a HC in the NFL and went to the playoffs both years!!!
Frazier hasn’t – he’s more qualified than Frazier
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my counter
is that the nobody in the entire league has considered him for a head coaching job in like 10 years.
There’s something there…
Jonathan Stupar won the Heisman…while playing in the NFL!
Are you implying Chan Gailey won’t work his tail off?
No, just suggesting he has less motivation to do so.
In the end, we’ve probably done Frazier a favor.
The Dick Jauron version of the K-Gun...the Squirt Gun.
just suggesting he has less motivation to do so.
what? how do you figure?
we’ve probably done Frazier a favor
hwo do you know that we haven’t done the Bills a favor? Fraziers never even been a HC – how many great coordinators turn out to be mediocre or worse HC?
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how many great coordinators turn out to be mediocre or worse HC?
How many only recently have worked out pretty well?
Tomlin (whom Frazier worked under)
Sparano
Whisenhunt
Smith
Ryan
Those are off the top of my head. Not too shabby of a list.
The Dick Jauron version of the K-Gun...the Squirt Gun.
I bet the list of failed coaches is larger. Frazier or Gailey – frankely we wont’ know until they both have had their stints.
i’m certainly patient enough to see what the guy does.
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Gregg Williams
Mike Mularkey
Mike Nolan
Jim Mora, Jr.
Cam Cameron
Rod Marinelli
Scott Linehan
Bill Callahan
Romeo Crennell
Charlie Weis
That’s off the top of my head.
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by MattRichWarren on Jan 19, 2010 1:43 PM EST up reply actions
most coaches fail, regardless of what their background is.
Malcolm Gladwell wrote an article about how the success of quarterbacks and teachers are insanely difficult to predict, I woud put coaches in that same category. plus, a lot has to go right for a football team to be deemed a success, much of it is outside the coach’s control.
Jonathan Stupar won the Heisman…while playing in the NFL!
Don’t let the door hit you on the way out!
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by CanadianBillsFan on Jan 19, 2010 12:00 PM EST up reply actions
Don’t let the door hit you on the way out!
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by CanadianBillsFan on Jan 19, 2010 12:00 PM EST up reply actions
I LIKE IT
Until proven otherwise, I like the hiring of Chan Gailey.
For those of you who are highly against him, until proven otherwise, I am going to assume you have no idea what you are talking about.
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I am going to assume you have no idea what you are talking about.
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I'm with you
I dont think this guy has been through the let downs of ten years of mediocracy and “hoping” or “give the guy a chance” crap that I’ve seen. This is living up to the saying “the more things change, the more they stay the same!”
by Billsfanatic on Jan 19, 2010 10:56 AM EST up reply actions
You clearly have no idea what you’re talking about if you’re suggesting that this is a good hire. Nobody is going to buy that the guy is highly-touted HC nor OC for that matter. The bottom line is: He was cheap, he’s a yes man and he has experience and an offensive background. Those four things were what Ralph was looking for in the new HC and he sure got his man.
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by BillsfanfromDenmark on Jan 19, 2010 11:13 AM EST up reply actions
And
Chasing after Cowher, Shanahan, Gruden, Harbaugh and others means that Ralph didn’t try. A yes man, well I’ll give you this, he doesn’t come accross as a control freak with his peers, but maybe he is a team player that will work with Buddy and the direction that Buddy wants to take us.
Is it really average talent or just poor coaching, how important is depth and experience.
I know more than you, that’s for sure.
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by BillsfanfromDenmark on Jan 19, 2010 12:07 PM EST up reply actions
hey, hey boys, boys
lets take it down a notch.
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Wow, so a guy saying he is going to just wait and see, and will then make up his mind whether or not to agree with you makes you fly off the handle
Geez bud, chill out, its just another guy being tossed into a semi-impossible situation here in Buffalo, seen a number of those over the years….
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You can haver a rationale conversation without blindly questioning one’s general knowledge. If he’s wrong, try to prove his argument wrong with your argument.
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by MattRichWarren on Jan 19, 2010 1:44 PM EST up reply actions
lets not say that other people have no idea what they're talking about, ok?
Jonathan Stupar won the Heisman…while playing in the NFL!
I think we can all agree that we all know equally the same about what is going on. I was simply just trying to lighten the mood. There is too much negativity in this thread. Let’s think positive happy thoughts. Maybe I should have added a “haha” or a smilie at the end of my post to show humor. Oh well, I tried.
If the team revamps the roster, Chan Gailey and his staff will lead the Bills to the playoffs within 2 years. :D
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I would love to believe that, but right now I’ve a damn hard time imagining that. This coaching search has gotten the best of me and for that I’m sorry.
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by BillsfanfromDenmark on Jan 19, 2010 1:54 PM EST up reply actions
Haha. You and everyone else.
We should be happy that Buffalo found a coach with years of experience who wants to coach in Buffalo. I’ve said it in a few posts today, I want someone who will be happy coaching in Buffalo instead of someone who took the job because it was the only job available.
Now it’s up to Buddy Nix & Chan Gailey to revamp this roster. There is talent on this roster, but some of the veterans have got to go.
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I want someone who will be happy coaching in Buffalo instead of someone who took the job because it was the only job available.
It seems to me that that’s exactly what they got.
Jonathan Stupar won the Heisman…while playing in the NFL!
Apparently everyone wanted the job, from Tim Graham at ESPN, Buddy Nix said the following in his press conf:
“I’m trying not to exaggerate, but we got 15 calls a day, begging for an interview and wanting this job,” Nix said. "I could’ve hired 35 or 40 the first week. And you would be shocked at some of the names.
“Trust me, it’s a good job. Don’t ever think you can’t fill coaching jobs even if they’re bad. Oakland gets a lot of calls.”
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how bout calling a spade a spade
there is an established record of bad decisions.
when that record gets flipped, then the benefit of the doubt is warranted.
Undecided
I’m not against him either, anxious to see his staff, and what his OC and DC are will go a LONG way for me.
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How can this be good for the Bills?
we had to settle for a HC, no one with real talent wanted the job!!
BETTER have them ready to play
I was of today from work afther working a late emergency case in the hospital. Thank u very much for this Mr Wilson or who ever did the hireing. I Dont want to say anyting about this guy that I really hd no idea what he is all about. Nobody wanted to come to COACH the BILLS. SO is ok this guy wants the job. Thats like saying well bring back JAURON the players like him. C- MON . U think free agents players want to come to play hear knowing alll this stuff. NO Q-B NO O LINE NO DEFFENCE I tell u what the first 5 games of the season they better win . no excusses like we should have done this we neeed that we got to watch film much better bla,bla,bla BETTER have them ready to play
by abayarde on Jan 19, 2010 10:59 AM EST reply actions 5 recs
Awesome!
Gailey’s hiring brought abayarde back!
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by Kurupt on Jan 19, 2010 11:21 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
Well thats one positive that we can take out of this!
Jesus, if that mouthy little f***er didn’t manage to get open so often I think I would have punched him in the face years ago. - Tom Brady on Wes Welker
by CanadianBillsFan on Jan 19, 2010 12:02 PM EST up reply actions
GOT GAILEY, GOT ABAYARDE BACK..........
NOW LETS GO WINN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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by norcaliangelsfan on Jan 19, 2010 12:39 PM EST up reply actions
any word on Gailey’s sideline demeanor? Just curious as to what his presence on the field is. I also might watch some Dalls Cowboys 98-99 tape if I can find it.. just what kind of team did he take to the playoffs? A team pooled with over the hill talent and an owner just learning how to be a GM (and never actually learning anything)?
Still waiting for the playoffs.... Go Bills 2010 !!!!
Sure
any word on Gailey’s sideline demeanor? Just curious as to what his presence on the field is.
Visualize a Dick Jauron, but with an offensive background.
The Dick Jauron version of the K-Gun...the Squirt Gun.
Well good to see that he still has the support of his former team’s fans. For me that says a lot.
I mean if he managed to keep your support after the horrible seasons that you guys have went threw recently then he really can’t be as bad of a coach as some pple here make him out to be.
Jesus, if that mouthy little f***er didn’t manage to get open so often I think I would have punched him in the face years ago. - Tom Brady on Wes Welker
by CanadianBillsFan on Jan 19, 2010 12:06 PM EST up reply actions
im not sure anyone can be as bad as some people here have made Gailey out to be.
Jonathan Stupar won the Heisman…while playing in the NFL!
by JPH on Jan 19, 2010 12:35 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
The fact that Chan Gailey, someone who hasn’t been a head coach in over a decade, is even being considered means the Bills are scraping the bottom of the barrel
This upsets me more then the actual hire and is the main reason I don’t like the move. Its like they were sick of getting denied and went with Gailey because they knew he’d say yes. I would have rather waited until after the Superbowl and interviewed more candidates
by S2 on Jan 19, 2010 1:31 PM EST up reply actions
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i cant believe thats your sig. HAHAHAH, I cracked up in front of a room full of a people to a ten year olds joke. Maybe I’m just immature for my age, but poop and fart jokes really never get old….
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I didn’t notice that sig until this comment and I’m lol at my desk….I needed that in the middle of this thread!
oh man there’s so many of those good ones.
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by quantumuprising on Jan 19, 2010 1:18 PM EST up reply actions
with almost every article citing Cowher’s connection to the Bills hiring Gailey it makes it seem as though Bill Cowher hired Gailey for the Bills. which makes you wonder, what the hell is the front office doing, then?
The front office was busy having interview requests turned down by prospective coaching candidates.
by Brian in Shortsville on Jan 19, 2010 11:34 AM EST up reply actions
Rejection Mentality
I don’t understand where we get this rejection mentality.
Shanahan never won anything without John Elway, and in fact, Elway and Shanahan never won anything together until Terrell Davis arrived. In fact, Shanahan and Elway pretty much rode Davis to death inside of like 5 or 6 years and spit him out once they got their trophy (taking all of the credit along the way I might add).
Russ Grimm is a long shot to be a successful HC. He’s a line coach. Not really a big picture experienced guy.
Cowher has openly stated he would take no HC job other than Carolina due to its proximity to his home. He said that 2 years ago.
I would’ve have liked Frazier but we don’t know he rejected us, more likely the other way around.
Holmgren wanted a Front office position which I don’t believe we ever offered him.
I think we had a line of succession that turned out alright. And I am definitely glad we didn’t overpay to land Shanahan who in my opinion is not as great the roster he inherited in Denver.
Confucius say, "Man who go to bed with itchy butt, wake up with smelly finger."
MAYBE THEY’RE ADDING BILL COWHER TO THE FRONT OFFICE!!!!!!! Where’s Logan when you need him?
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by MattRichWarren on Jan 19, 2010 1:46 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
You’re supposed to be optimisitic, not senile.
Bill Polian and AJ Smith are gone, so there's not the usual balance between "sane" and "others." Ralph has mentally checked out since 1994. It's a very dangerous time. The coalition for reason is extremely weak.
LOL Just poking a little fun.
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by MattRichWarren on Jan 19, 2010 2:22 PM EST up reply actions
in any event, i think this will be a playoff team in 2 years. he is a good coach, just not someone i expected.
It’s not even noon. What are you drinking? =)
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by TheAfghanTwilight on Jan 19, 2010 11:53 AM EST up reply actions
I must admit, yesterday when I read the rumors I was P****d! I have now had time to think. These are the things I’ve come up with:
1. We have two choices remain fans and support the new HC or find a new team to root for, either way s**t or get off the pot.
2. Comparing college coaching to pro coaching is apples and oranges (i.e. Nick Saban, Steve Spurrier, etc.)
3. We are rebuilding, I hope… This said, next year should be a lost cause. I sincerely hope Buddy and Chan get some decent coordinators, some hot young talent and some solid positional coaches. Forget free agency, draft, draft, draft! That’s what Buddy did in SD!
4. Chan does have a spine. He was relieved because he wouldn’t change his schemes when ordered to by a first year head coach. He may not be showy but he does seem to have integrity.
Let’s all take a nice ling drink of scotch, relax, and see what he has in store.
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News Flash
They’re not going after ‘hot young talent’ When the Owner, GM, and Coach are a combined 221 years old… their not gonna go after “young”. Look for a guy like Greg Robinson to be hired as the D Coordinator.
by S2 on Jan 19, 2010 1:35 PM EST up reply actions
I think he looks like bob newhart.
by nine ladies dancing on Jan 19, 2010 11:31 AM EST reply actions
i have a feeling we are gonna look back on this day a few years from now, with leslie frazier coaching a team in serious contention and the bills in complete mediocrity. its too bad.
Come on now
I love all these people on here with their crystal balls who all of a sudden know how great of a head coach someone is when they aren’t even one yet. Some of you people need to chill and get things into perspective. One guy, not even a head coach makes a team.
Ummm, how is that any different than the past 10 years?
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I chose to hold my judgement until 4 games into the season.
I know that this guys is known as a “mediocre” coach. Or more precisely, a guy that should be a trust OC, but who shouldn’t be a HC.
Personally I don’t really care what his record with past teams is, just as long as he can improve the record of this team. We should know how this team holds up about 4 games into the season, so I’ll hold my judgement until then.
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by CanadianBillsFan on Jan 19, 2010 11:46 AM EST reply actions
The Usual Suspects
There are some people here who have bitched-and-moaned no matter who the Bills picked as head coach, if it wasn’t anyone but Cowher.
Gailey is not a big winner, but he IS a winner – a far, far better HC choice than the Jauron selection (and most others we’ve made since Knox left). Brian, I hope you can calm all these Drama Queens down with some common sense. The Bills made a good pick, for a change!
To be sure, He is not another Dick Jauron! I have never agreed with anyone who claimed Jauron was a defensive genius and he has certainly never won anything with the exception of one season in Chicago where they were promptly destroyed by the Eagles in the playoffs.
Confucius say, "Man who go to bed with itchy butt, wake up with smelly finger."
Trying not to overreact
After all, Pats fans must have been saying the same thing after seeing what Belichick did in Cleveland. Still, I don’t think we have the next Belichick here.
Either way, the die is cast. All we can do now is wait and see how it plays out. A lot of people have said they like what Nix has done in the past… now is the time to put up or shut up with your faith in the guy.
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But The Chan has coached a team to the playoffs in the two years he was allowed to coach in the NFL.
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I can't tell
you all how disappointed and angry I am right now. I’ve been down this road before. I’ve seen this story play out. Ralph hires a GM, whom he can control, he hires a new HC who he can control. He honestly believes you need to be “lucky” to be good. How bout working extremely hard as an entire organization towards one goal, with one mission, and a standard of performance that echoes the beliefs of all the successful organizations in America? How bout, stop being Al Davis? It’s really embarassing. I am ashamed to be a Bills fan. I am ashamed that my organization is so consistent on refusing to change. That there is no innovative minds. That Modrak, Guy, Nix, Brandon, etc are all yellow-belly cowards who refuse to shout from the mountain tops the need to change. What a colossal failure this organization is.
Do I have anything against Chan Gailey? NO. But he is not a leader, he is not a CEO type, he is an OC at best. The reason he has bounced around his whole career is because he is average, but not good enough. Why not hire Frazier and have Gailey be OC? Why not hire Bilick and have Gailey as OC? It’s insane to have Gailey be the actual HC. He’ll just be a peon for Ralph.
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by MARVelous on Jan 19, 2010 12:14 PM EST reply actions 2 recs
But he is not a leader
former players say he holds his players accountable
The reason he has bounced around his whole career is because he is average, but not good enough
you know the NFL Marv – great one minute – crappy the next. His only stint as a HC in this league he took the Cowboys to the playoffs. I can tell you right now i’d love to be in the playoffs -even Jones said he should have given him more time.
Why not hire Frazier and have Gailey be OC?
what in the wild wild world of sports makes anyone think Frazier will pan our better than Gailey? Because he’s had all star talent to work with? we won’t know that until Frazier actually becomes a HC somewhere – which incase anyone didn’t noticed – 11 teams that were looking for coaches last year passed on Frazier.
Why not hire Bilick and have Gailey as OC?
is Billick even good? wasn’t he an offensive genisus with terrible offenses?
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Gailey
1) has never shown a track record of developing QB’s.
2) Gailey has been viewed as a follower and not a leader. He held players accountable on offense sure, with assignments, tests, etc. But can he control a locker room? Frazier has that respect….so did Jauron.
3) Yes crappy one day brilliant the next. With no changes in the FO, Gailey will continue to bake with the groceries Ralph hand picks….not his own. It’s going to be the same disconnect that Jauron, Mularkey, Williams, all had with Ralph
4) Gailey is a manager not a leader. He doesn’t inspire players. His time in Dallas, GT, KC, etc, he has been known for one thing: a creative offensive mind. There’s a huge difference in managing an offense (Jason Garret) or leading a team. I just do not see Gailey as a capable leader.
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has never shown a track record of developing QB’s.
if anything – that’s what he has shown. Kordell Stewart, Jay Fiedler, Tyler Thigpen – he got a ton out of those guys.
Gailey has been viewed as a follower and not a leader.
never once saw that – link?
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if anything – that’s what he has shown. Kordell Stewart, Jay Fiedler, Tyler Thigpen – he got a ton out of those guys.
there’s a difference between getting the most out of crap and developing a QB.
Jonathan Stupar won the Heisman…while playing in the NFL!
If all your given is crap, which is all we got, then I am fine with him making the most of it
Lets see what happens when we give him a real QB, right JPH?
Nix and Chan, the new Cheech and Chong of the Bills, hopefully they will be as successful in business as they were, and not so much the drug fueled comedy act....
what in the wild wild world of sports makes anyone think Frazier will pan our better than Gailey? Because he’s had all star talent to work with? we won’t know that until Frazier actually becomes a HC somewhere – which incase anyone didn’t noticed – 11 teams that were looking for coaches last year passed on Frazier.
We’ve talked about this before, but it’s not about how good a coordinator a guy is. Weis is a great o-coordinator. It’s about the guy’s demeanor, character and ability to bring in good coordinators and dish out responsibilties to them. The fact that EVERYONE at this point believes that Frazier has those abilities, and that NO ONE thought Gailey was even a candidate for a head coaching job in the NFL, is what in the wild world of sports makes me think Frazier will pan out better than Gailey.
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by JPH on Jan 19, 2010 12:44 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
that’s where I disagree – mainly because I have zero stock in anyone until they actually do something.
The same thing was said about Greg Williams and Mike Mularkey. We have stats that show that Gailey has been successful as a head coach in this league.
All we’ve seen out of frazier is that he can make a pro bowl loaded defense look great
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is Billick even good? wasn’t he an offensive genisus with terrible offenses?
So Billick might not be good but you’re saying it’s a good thing that Gailey made the playoffs in two years. Billick won a Super Bowl. Within the last decade.
by twoeightnine on Jan 19, 2010 12:47 PM EST up reply actions
Post by MARVelous gets a big REC from me. Completely agree.
That there is no innovative minds. That Modrak, Guy, Nix, Brandon, etc are all yellow-belly cowards who refuse to shout from the mountain tops the need to change. What a colossal failure this organization is.
This part is especially true. I posted before, how the Bills are faced with some disadvantages, and as such, it is hard to get a quality coach to come here. So maybe they need to think outside the box, change the game, etc. Do something drastically different. Something innovative minds would embrace.
But instead we get the worst case scenario. A guy, who even when winning with Dallas, was fired. A guy fired by a college team….Georgia Tech….and not even a top 10 college program. A guy who was recently fired from…..get this….the position of offensive co-ordinator of Kansas City. And somehow you want us to believe that Ralph Wilson has the ability to see something in this guy that nobody else sees? Sorry, but you’ve lost the benefit of the doubt.
by StroudFanClub on Jan 19, 2010 12:30 PM EST up reply actions
I’ve seen this story play out. Ralph hires a GM, whom he can control, he hires a new HC who he can control.
Bill Polian and Marv Levy??? :-)
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by MattRichWarren on Jan 19, 2010 1:49 PM EST up reply actions
Neither was Dick Jauron
… Just saying.
by twoeightnine on Jan 19, 2010 12:47 PM EST up reply actions
I hate you Ralph..............
this all your fault……….
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by norcaliangelsfan on Jan 19, 2010 12:40 PM EST reply actions
There were some names thrown out above.
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by MattRichWarren on Jan 19, 2010 1:52 PM EST up reply actions
Now what the #"$%& shall we do on the draft?? Draft another mediocre player, probably a DB or DE, and wait a whole year to finish 2- 14 and then draft Jake Lucky Charm, then wait a couple of more years for him to develop.
Wait not done yet……….After all of that, we´ll have to go to the same process we are right now FIND A NEW HC!!!!!!!
God Bless Bills Fans
if we take Tebow...
I will forgive the entire organization for this gut punching offseason so far.
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by norcaliangelsfan on Jan 19, 2010 12:54 PM EST up reply actions
but he’s going in the first round. i am sure of it. if the bills really want him, they’d have no other choice but to take him number 9. i don’t think it’s going to happen, however. we always pass up talented players for less talented ones.
My money is on the Jags or Patriots to get Tebow in the 1st.
Nix and Chan, the new Cheech and Chong of the Bills, hopefully they will be as successful in business as they were, and not so much the drug fueled comedy act....
My guess is the Pats
They’ll find a way to use him. You just know it.
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I know, and I must admit that scares the crap out of me, with the Jags its just a marketing ploy
Nix and Chan, the new Cheech and Chong of the Bills, hopefully they will be as successful in business as they were, and not so much the drug fueled comedy act....
they invent a new system
that constantly has two Qbs split out under center and have the snap going either left or right everytime. No running back. Just two Qbs – one who can scramble – and Randy and Wes.
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explain!
"you just have to know there's always going to be adversity. None of these games are going to be easy. Nothing will be given to us" - Paul Posluszny
It’s illegal.
Bill Polian and AJ Smith are gone, so there's not the usual balance between "sane" and "others." Ralph has mentally checked out since 1994. It's a very dangerous time. The coalition for reason is extremely weak.
of this i am aware
it was a joke, thats why I want to know what DJ is talking about!
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There’s always the option to trade back into the 1st. If not, we’d never know of John McCargo!
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by TheAfghanTwilight on Jan 19, 2010 1:15 PM EST up reply actions
I wish I did not know of McBusto
Nix and Chan, the new Cheech and Chong of the Bills, hopefully they will be as successful in business as they were, and not so much the drug fueled comedy act....
I don’t see how anyone could be against them taking Tebow. If he’s there for the taking in the 2nd, the steal should be made.
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by TheAfghanTwilight on Jan 19, 2010 12:55 PM EST up reply actions
It's all about your perceptions
I think for me, I honestly do not trust this front office to make the correct decision. And hiring a coach who has already won the Super Bowl takes so much less trust on my part, you know? Even Leslie Frazier had league-wide recommendations, and recent interviews to back him up. I’m almost feeling like I need external validation right now, and I’m not going to get that with Gailey.
If the Steelers had made this move, or the Colts had made this move, I would probably be thinking: “What do they know that we don’t?” And that my friends, is the obstacle that this front office has to climb. They don’t have the faith of the fans. I hope for their sake and ours that a majority of the fans on this site are dead wrong.
Perception is!
The Steelers and Colts would have never made this move!!!
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In fact the Steelers didn’t despite Cowher’s rec. They hired the Vikings DC…. weird.
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by MattRichWarren on Jan 19, 2010 1:53 PM EST up reply actions
Overall
If we get this guy the players he needs, he can succeed. He’s not going to pull off any miracles, and he’s not a longterm answer, but he’ll succeed if we put him in position to.
Today, just like 2 days ago, it’s still all about the players that Nix brings in.
Jonathan Stupar won the Heisman…while playing in the NFL!
I have to ask: couldn’t the same be said about Jauron? I think what it boils down to is who Gailey hires as coordinators.
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by TheAfghanTwilight on Jan 19, 2010 1:17 PM EST up reply actions
I have to ask: couldn’t the same be said about Jauron
umm. yeah i suppose, maybe. But I like Chan’s track record much better than Jauron’s.
I think what it boils down to is who Gailey hires as coordinators.
Yeah, that’s important, but I think he’ll do fine with that. If anything, the past few days make it seem like even Jauron brought in fine coordinators. I repeat: it’s about the players. Just like always.
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Everyone knows
I was adamantly Bill Cowher or bust. I have also been clear in a previous Chan thread that I think he is Dick Jauron part 2. HOWEVER. I voted yes in the poll, that I’m ok with the hire because over the last few days, as it became obvious that Cowher had moved on (though I still believe they should have thrown 13 mil at him to make him come, for symbolic and morale reasons as much as coaching superiority) I was really worried we were going to land a coordinator who would be in over his head. I’m dead serious when I say that I prefer Chan Gailey to Leslie Frazier, Russ Grimm, and maybe even Jason Garrett. First, Chan has done the whole coaching thing – as a coordinator – a lot longer than all of those guys, maybe even as long as the three of them combined. He has coached as a head guy successfully in this league before – taking the Cowboys to two consecutive playoff births in two seasons. That should mean a lot for a franchise that hasn’t been to the playoffs in a decade. The Cowboys are the same team that made Bill Parcells want to leave town. Its not like its easy to be a coach there. So I’ll take Chan on his record in Dallas more than the fact he only made it two years. Gailey also has experience in college, so he knows how to work with youngsters, something valuable to a team rebuilding through the draft, as Nix says we will. Finally, he has been a successful offensive coordinator almost everywhere hes been. Hes also been with the Broncos, Cowboys, Chiefs, Dolphins. That means he probably has a lot of ties in this league to management types, other coaches, and players. That should help in free agency and trades. We saw how much Ralph Wilson’s bad rep in the league and poor ties hurt our chances to get people to interview. Chan has a good rep, Bill Cowher was certain to make him his OC if he was hired here anyway. The Cowboys were a losing record when he arrived and a 10-6 one year later. The Bills need to return to respectability fast if we want to become an attractive destination again.
In the end, am I happy. No I’m not. Am I mad. No I’m not. I’m going to go into this season as a passionless observer because I won’t let the Bills get my hopes up again. Only Cowher could have saved me from the fan numbness I feel. But at least Chan Gailey has won in this league. We need winners around here these days, you know? We didn’t need some no experience, coordinator who wouldn’t know what to do when he realizes his budget in Buffalo is tiny and no free agents want to come here. We need a savy, vet who has won before. Not getting Cowher hurts me a lot. I thought the team would finally step up and go the extra mile for me like I always have for them. They didn’t. But Gailey isn’t the worst candidate by a mile.
Now, just to mess with you all a bit. Chan Gailey is considered a guy who can do a lot with QBs. Anyone think we could be trading up a few spots to grab Jimmy Clausen?
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I hope Claussen or Bradford is ANYWHERE near us, and I would be fine trading up for them, as long as it is not a ransomn to do so
Also, I think we just need to relax like you say and just see what happens, observing is so much less painful then full on caring.
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The Jets did alright trading most of their picks away for “he who has been named Dirty.”
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by TheAfghanTwilight on Jan 19, 2010 1:21 PM EST up reply actions
Yeah, but the Jets had a lot fewer glaring holes that needed to patched than we do
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i think the Bills have less holes than the Jets…..to run through!
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by TheAfghanTwilight on Jan 19, 2010 1:31 PM EST up reply actions
I don't have an opinion anymore
This is such a lateral move it’s ridiculous. He’s not an established NFL HC. He has two years experience as one. I’m not saying it can’t work, but Jauron was prime evidence that previous experience as a HC doesn’t necessarily make you a good one.
You could plug Bill Cowher’s name into your statement too. Bill Cowher would have been able to guarantee this fanbase no more success than Gailey will. I think the Bills went after Gailey because Cowher was high on him. Apparently they had no one putting the Billick bug in their ear. I’d say trust in people played a huge role again. I can’t fault them for this. It’s very hard to hire someone you don’t know and who doesn’t have backing from others.
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by TheAfghanTwilight on Jan 19, 2010 1:47 PM EST up reply actions
The fact that we didn't even seem to entertain the thought of interviewing Billick makes me irate!
It seems the only way that we’re going to shed our laughing stock reputation will unfortunately be when Ralph either passes away or sells the team. It would instill more confidence in me if the people he is so “comfortable” with in his inner circle knew a little more about football.
You can plug Cowher into the no guarantees spot, but he has way more than two years experience, and comparing their track records is not a good idea.
Jonathan Stupar won the Heisman…while playing in the NFL!
ehh
All i have to say is that he better have some dang good coordinators! I’m kind of lost for words why we didn’t even interview Brian Billick…or why we didn’t wait until we could interview all the coaches we wanted. I’ll wait and see. However, if we don’t do well within two years and at least look respectable I’ll be upset. The only good thing I have to say about Chang is that he got mediocre production out of a garbage KC team in 08. You can’t depend on his stats from Dallas because look who his players were…Troy Aikman, Emmitt Smith, Michael Irvin. I would say his team underperformed. He is definitely more of an offensive coordinator. Man I don’t know what these guys upstairs for the Bills are thinking!
Gailey's Dallas team
Irvin and Aikman were getting old, the O-line was deteriorating fast, and the defense lost a lot of speed. The team was really a shell of its former self.
Gailey is going to call his own plays.
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by MattRichWarren on Jan 19, 2010 2:28 PM EST up reply actions
presser….If you guys could have an actor play Buddy Nix, would would you cast? This dude is priceless.
Oh and nice lapel pin. I need to get me one.
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by MattRichWarren on Jan 19, 2010 2:23 PM EST up reply actions
Wow. I like how he answers questions.
Bill Polian and AJ Smith are gone, so there's not the usual balance between "sane" and "others." Ralph has mentally checked out since 1994. It's a very dangerous time. The coalition for reason is extremely weak.
Chan gailey is o coordinator.
Bill Polian and AJ Smith are gone, so there's not the usual balance between "sane" and "others." Ralph has mentally checked out since 1994. It's a very dangerous time. The coalition for reason is extremely weak.
He’ll be Head Coach and Offensive Coordinator.
He may have a guy that assists him – but he’ll run the offense as he sees fit.
Bill Polian and AJ Smith are gone, so there's not the usual balance between "sane" and "others." Ralph has mentally checked out since 1994. It's a very dangerous time. The coalition for reason is extremely weak.
It seems like the HC being OC as well hasn’t work out for teams in the past, what do people think about this? I can’t think of any examples
I’m not thrilled.
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by MattRichWarren on Jan 19, 2010 2:34 PM EST up reply actions
Whisenhunt does it. Did he say he was going to call plays? Or just be the o-coordinator?
Bill Polian and AJ Smith are gone, so there's not the usual balance between "sane" and "others." Ralph has mentally checked out since 1994. It's a very dangerous time. The coalition for reason is extremely weak.
He said he was going to call plays. He might hire an OC but he will call plays.
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by MattRichWarren on Jan 19, 2010 2:36 PM EST up reply actions
Agree
I like my coach as a CEO .. Someone who over sees everything. Not a fan of the HC/OC duo
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by Michael_Necci on Jan 19, 2010 2:35 PM EST up reply actions
Until he got fired from that job.
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by MattRichWarren on Jan 19, 2010 2:36 PM EST up reply actions
Andy Reid and Big Show both did it, and neither was competent, for a more recent stinking vintage
How about some Todd Haley and Jim Zorn, cripes this is looking bad
Nix and Chan, the new Cheech and Chong of the Bills, hopefully they will be as successful in business as they were, and not so much the drug fueled comedy act....
And I love Buddy Nix – “What can you do to swing the fan base?” “Win games!”
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by MattRichWarren on Jan 19, 2010 2:27 PM EST up reply actions
Was that Buddy or Chan? I’m listening to it on the radio and they both have southern drawls.
Bill Polian and AJ Smith are gone, so there's not the usual balance between "sane" and "others." Ralph has mentally checked out since 1994. It's a very dangerous time. The coalition for reason is extremely weak.
That was Buddy. :-)
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by MattRichWarren on Jan 19, 2010 2:29 PM EST up reply actions
Alright, then I like the way Buddy answers questions.
Bill Polian and AJ Smith are gone, so there's not the usual balance between "sane" and "others." Ralph has mentally checked out since 1994. It's a very dangerous time. The coalition for reason is extremely weak.
Everything else has been Gailey. Nix started by “winning games” and went on for a while.
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by MattRichWarren on Jan 19, 2010 2:30 PM EST up reply actions
Oh Great
Gee What a great day – my 2 year old just dragged me out of bed at 5 AM (yes its 5 AM over here) then I wake up enough to see that we hire Chan Gailey ! I know I’ve not always been a good boy, but waking up to this h e l l is worse than I even thought I deserved !!! No wonder the bills had “stealth” meetings with him, they knew if it was public knowledge that there would be rioting in down town Buffalo. I can’t believe my day is ruined and it’s not even 5.30 AM yet – thanks a bunch Ralph.
Gailey
On the defensive scheme and whether they want to keep the 4-3:
“that’s something where we’re going to look at other options…. I’m much more open to the 3-4 than I’ve been in the past.”
Sounds like Nix likes/wants the 3-4
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YES!!
A 3-4 defense!! that sounds good to me.
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BS!
Bill Polian and AJ Smith are gone, so there's not the usual balance between "sane" and "others." Ralph has mentally checked out since 1994. It's a very dangerous time. The coalition for reason is extremely weak.
“We got 15 calls a day begging for an interview.” LOL
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BS! LOL
Bill Polian and AJ Smith are gone, so there's not the usual balance between "sane" and "others." Ralph has mentally checked out since 1994. It's a very dangerous time. The coalition for reason is extremely weak.
Chuck Lester and a bunch of High School coaches don't count Buddy.
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Nor do NorCali and MRW calling every 30 minutes to see if they changed their mind about them being Co-Head Coaches
Nix and Chan, the new Cheech and Chong of the Bills, hopefully they will be as successful in business as they were, and not so much the drug fueled comedy act....
i vote yes why you ask
i like this move this guy got fire i think he can take this team and win
why you ask
1 this guy more like rex ryan working class kind of head coach will do well with the fans
2 are running game has bin one of are strengths glad to see we are geting back to it
3 the spread will help are wide receivers get open and it a beter for the afc
4 wow im seeing the pres con this is right guy
HE JUST BASHED OAKLAND!!!!!!!!!!!! Holy cow!!!!!!!!!!!!! Buddy Nix just absolutely destroyed the Raiders.
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“Oakland gets 15 calls a day….shoot…I wish I hadn’t just said that.”
Bill Polian and AJ Smith are gone, so there's not the usual balance between "sane" and "others." Ralph has mentally checked out since 1994. It's a very dangerous time. The coalition for reason is extremely weak.
No kidding, Buddy.
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by MattRichWarren on Jan 19, 2010 2:39 PM EST up reply actions
what’d he say?
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by J2 on Jan 19, 2010 2:38 PM EST up reply actions
“Even bad coaching spots can get a coach. Oakland gets a coach.” or something like that.
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by MattRichWarren on Jan 19, 2010 2:43 PM EST up reply actions
So is Nix comparing Buffalo to Oakland?
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by TheAfghanTwilight on Jan 19, 2010 3:04 PM EST up reply actions
I think he was saying Buffalo is better than Oakland.
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by MattRichWarren on Jan 19, 2010 3:05 PM EST up reply actions
LOL
Never thought a press conference would act like a game day…lol.
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by J2 on Jan 19, 2010 2:40 PM EST up reply actions
Plus, he kinda threw a dig at Jerry Sullivan and the media.
Sullivan: “Buddy, you accused the media of being 80% wrong, do you care to elaborate on what was wrong?”
Buddy: “No I don’t”
Sullivan: “Why not?”
Buddy: “Cuz you don’t elaborate when you’re wrong, so I won’t either.”
Bill Polian and AJ Smith are gone, so there's not the usual balance between "sane" and "others." Ralph has mentally checked out since 1994. It's a very dangerous time. The coalition for reason is extremely weak.
that i like.
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that’s like saying hitler was filled with “a little hatred”
by quantumuprising on Jan 19, 2010 3:02 PM EST up reply actions
When his job is to report on the Bills, and offer a bit of editorial on the subject, I can understand why it’s laced with more sarcasm and bitterness than people may like. The team has been what’s largely reported. I like what Sullivan brings to the table, actually. If the team changes, I gather his tone will too.
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by TheAfghanTwilight on Jan 19, 2010 3:07 PM EST up reply actions
Chix reporter just asked Nix if the Bills settled
Wow! Some balls to ask that question!
Nix: Without any doubt in my mind, we got the best guy for us"
John I.
Buddy Nix has amazingly straight teeth.
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by J2 on Jan 19, 2010 2:44 PM EST up reply actions
Buddy: media full of BS
almost all the rumors about who turned down the job, etc., were BS. I believe it; the media is always so desperate for a “scoop” that they never let facts get in the way of reporting something.
Good for Buddy – GO BILLS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Oh Yeah!!!!!!
The Kool-Aid guy just came breaking through my office door. Damnit.
He should really be their mascot.
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by TheAfghanTwilight on Jan 19, 2010 3:08 PM EST up reply actions
I’d totally buy a jersey with the Kool-Aid man on it.
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by UZ on Jan 19, 2010 3:23 PM EST up reply actions
He can cost you a lot of money if you have friends who have a habit of saying "No Way!"
Nix and Chan, the new Cheech and Chong of the Bills, hopefully they will be as successful in business as they were, and not so much the drug fueled comedy act....
I’m not a fan of the hiring, but I do like how Gailey has the ability to take lesser players and make something of them. I’m also a fan of his run first approach.
After that point I’m a bit disappointed though.
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