Reports: Bills target Ron Rivera as coaching candidate
The Buffalo Bills have a new football decision-making hierarchy in place, spearheaded by recently-christened GM Buddy Nix, and rumors are already starting to fly regarding the biggest decision the team has yet to make. Paul Hamilton at WGR 550 and Buffalo Sports Daily are both reporting, citing sources, that Nix will seek permission from the San Diego Chargers to interview defensive coordinator Ron Rivera for the Bills' head coaching position.
San Diego has a first-round bye in the playoffs, meaning that if the Chargers give the Bills permission to interview Rivera, he'll only be available to interview next week. He then won't be able to accept the job until San Diego's post-season run comes to a close.
Nix spoke at length at his introductory press conference of his belief that previous head coaching experience is important to the search process; Rivera has none. Though he's been coaching since 1996, Rivera has never risen higher than the defensive coordinator post, which he held in Chicago and again in San Diego.
Rivera joined the Chargers prior to the 2007 season, when Nix was still the Assistant GM and Director of Player Personnel with San Diego. Clearly, the two men are somewhat familiar with each other. Rivera has employed a 3-4 defense for the past year and a half in San Diego, though he also coached a 4-3 alignment under Lovie Smith in Chicago. Rivera's apparent candidacy flies in the face of multiple reports claiming that the Bills would lean toward an offensive-minded coaching candidate.
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Uh yeah. I would love that hire, as I tend to like the defensive HCs more. I remember Chicago’s Defense was pretty good when he was there.
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Well hey now, so was Dick Jauron’s! :P
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by UZ on Jan 2, 2010 2:35 PM EST up reply actions
This is just Awesome
Urghhh…. This is what I was afraid of!
Nix spoke at length at his introductory press conference of his belief that previous head coaching experience is important to the search process; Rivera has none.
Already backtracking.
Rivera joined the Chargers prior to the 2007 season, when Nix was still the Assistant GM and Director of Player Personnel with San Diego. Clearly, the two men are somewhat familiar with each other.
Familiar = comfortable… Are we starting to get the picture here.
Weclome to the old new Buffalo regime
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by Jason from OH-IO on Jan 2, 2010 9:01 AM EST reply actions
Rivera is good
My hunch is that Fewell remains with the team in some capacity, either as HC or Asst HC, or DC. In his interview with Chris Brown, Nix emphasized that change was not good for the team. He specifically mentioned how changing systems and coordinators was not a good thing. So I very much doubt that he wants Fewell gone especially since the defense is there or close. There is absolutely no reason to blow up this defense.
What I find intriguing is what could happen on the offensive side. The Bills have been a victim of the constant change on offense and that is never a good thing. I would not be surprised at all if he keeps AVP as OC, makes Fewell get a QB coach, and give Edwards another shot behind a more mature and possibly talented line.
Of course, if Rivera is hired, he would have lattitude to hire who he wants to, but I think continuity would be a major factor in Nix’s decision from what I can tell.
The other interesting thing is this. Both Rivera and Nix probably watched Edwards last year come back from that concussion and surgically take apart San Diego to go 6-2? So they must have a decent opinion of Edwards knowing what he is capable of in the best of times. I see them keeping Edwards in place, which I think is as good an option as any. There simply is no available QB that is better than Edwards, defintely not Jason Campbell whose name keeps creeping up, and there’s too much pressure to win to put the ball in the hands of a rookie. I can see Rivera, Nix, or Fewell, or anyone else for that matter doing a Pennington with Edwards.
BTW, the Rooney Rule is a great thing. I see a lot of bashing of it here and just want to make it clear that some of us like it.
You couldn’t be more wrong on basically everything.
1) There’s no way Fewell stays in Buffalo as coach in any capacity
2) Nix didn’t say change wasn’t needed; he concretely said that a team like the Colts, who the Cover 2 scheme, isn’t a good fit in a place like Buffalo, where the weather is so much a factor. We need big, tough and strong guys. I also very much believe we’ll dump the 4-3 defense, but that’s just my two cents.
3) I don’t think Rivera, if he’s the new HC, which I don’t hope he is (unless he knows some DAMN good OC out there that knows how to develop QB’s), would even contemplate keeping any of the current coaches (with the exception of April and perhaps Sanders) and with good reason, as they’re one of the worst in the league imo.
4) Just about every QB out there is better than Trent Edwards is. The point is: He’s gun shy and never takes chances, and that’s never going to cut in the NFL. ‘My’ guy, Kevin Kolb, would be a tremendous choice imo., if we were to trade for him.
5) The Rooney Rule is pretty useless. I see the idea behind it, as back in the end some owners were reluctant to give the HC-job to a black guy, but I certainly hope those days are behind us.
by BillsfanfromDenmark on Jan 2, 2010 10:24 AM EST up reply actions
5.1 - And there is no teeth to the rule anyway. Teams can hire whoever they want
Would you be more offended not getting an interview at all, or knowing you are the token minority interview? Owners who may be prejudiced are not likely to change their minds after one interview.
"The Bills have no playoff aspirations" – Dan Dierdorf
No ‘token’ candidate is forced to interview.
What the Rooney rule is really good at is forcing minority candidates to be looked at instead of teams just looking at candidates who they know.
Not that that stops the Bills from only considering people they know.
I also COMPLETELY agree with this. It’s how horribly much of it is handled by teams. They pick one guy who fits a profile but who many times has no real shot at the job.
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by TheAfghanTwilight on Jan 2, 2010 11:32 AM EST up reply actions
4) We’ve only seen Trent Edwards playing under the tutelage of Dick Jauron. This is one of the reasons I wish Fewell played him earlier in the season (rather than screwing the pooch and throwing him in at the end of a game to get injured)
5) Completely agree. There’s nothing to prevent narrow minded owners or GMs from “interviewing” a minority coach and calling it legitimate, and then going right around and hiring a white guy. Therefore, it is a completely useless rule.
But hey, where’s the Rooney Rule for Running Backs?? White guys are discriminated against at that position. Toby Gerhart in 2010!!! Woooooooooooooooooooooooot!!!!
by NordicBillsfan on Jan 2, 2010 12:06 PM EST up reply actions
Leonard on the Bengals is white. He’s from upstate NY.
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by MattRichWarren on Jan 2, 2010 12:30 PM EST up reply actions
but he's not the starter and they're so few and far between.
but the ratio of starting white running backs is dreadful for the number of teams in the league. we must make it even. we must stand up against this discrimination!!! this racism will never go away!!! only a pathetic rule will help end this!!!
by NordicBillsfan on Jan 2, 2010 12:37 PM EST up reply actions
Yeah he is! Where are you from? One of my friends graduated with him.
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by MattRichWarren on Jan 2, 2010 1:08 PM EST up reply actions
changing systems and coordinators is not a good thing?
because it sure as heck didn’t work out for green bay this year?
Later Losman!
by rockybillboa on Jan 2, 2010 11:10 AM EST up reply actions
you do realize our Defense actually played well this year?
right? the only problems we had were that our starting OLBs went down with injuries, and that we need to add talent at basically two positions (DE and OLB).
by NordicBillsfan on Jan 2, 2010 12:09 PM EST up reply actions
Huh?
21st overall
21st in yards allowed
3rd pass yards allowed
32nd rush yards allowed
19th sacks
20th points allowed
Everything except for pass yards is in the bottom half of the league…and the reason for the ‘good’ pass defense wasn’t that it was really good but rather that the offenses happily ran it down Buffalo’s throat negating the need to pass. Fewell gets the guys to play hard and had to use far too many scrubs. Even with those qualifiers Buffalo’s defense was pretty terrible.
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yes, because offenses happily ran it down our throats we're 3rd in interceptions...
Our run D was only terrible because our OLBs/DEs couldn’t run contain this year. The fact that our starters didn’t even play the majority of the year at OLB exacerbated this problem and made it look worse (though a talent infusion at LB is still necessary in the draft).
The system is solid. This “bottom half of the league” defense is the only thing that kept us in games, even the many we lost. Our offense looks half-ways competent and we’re in the playoffs thanks to our D. There’s a reason we were able to stop runners like MJD (gash the middle) as opposed to runners like CJ (gash the sides). New DEs and new OLBs and this D is completely set.
by NordicBillsfan on Jan 2, 2010 12:46 PM EST up reply actions
New DEs and new OLBs and this D is completely set.
replace 4 guys and the unit is good. to me that means the unit isn’t good…
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by JPH on Jan 2, 2010 1:11 PM EST up reply actions
1 LB would suffice at this point.
1 LDE
Maybin was being looked at as Schobel’s (RDE) replacement.
Thats two guys, assuming Maybin develops well. Either way, the 4 guys we need is much less than what we would need if we switched to a 3-4.
by NordicBillsfan on Jan 2, 2010 1:38 PM EST up reply actions
If Maybin replaces Schobel then the run defense will actaully get worse. Mayin has been horrible against the run.
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Maybe it's time to switch back to a 3-4
It’s not like we had a pass rush anyway and maybe Maybin could become a rush OLB like Porter. Something tells me if we’re lucky enough to get Cowher that just might happen.
True
But he seems to at least pay attention to the RB whereas Maybin doesn’t seem to consider him at all. In all fairness, maybe that’s what he’s been told to do.
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No contradiction...
I do not see where interviewing Ron Rivera is a contradiction, of back-peddling, from what Nix said in his statements about the head coach. First, he did not categorically state that he would not look at candidates lacking NFL head coaching experience, but rather that he thought it would be difficult to find a suitable candidate who lacked such. He also commented that they would consider 2-3 candidates who matched with their ideals and then take those names to Ralph Wilson for final deliberations. So, even if he is interviewed and considered an appropriate candidate, it does not mean that he will be the final choice. Let’s wait and see what other names arise before questioning Nix and his approach to building this team.
by dukedoc76 on Jan 2, 2010 11:00 AM EST reply actions 2 recs
Don't jump to conclusions on this
The story is simply that Nix is interested in interviewing Rivera, not that he has decided to hire him. That’s a reasonable thing to do since he is widely regarded as a prime prospect for a HC job. Also, this is the time to make the move to interview him since San Diego’s bye week will provide a window of opportunity that may not open again until after the Superbowl. That is likely why Nix is moving to arrange the meeting so quickly — not because Rivera is necessarily his top choice.
I think it’s a safe assumption — if this report is true — that Rivera is in contention, but I will be very surprised if Nix doesn’t interview and carefully consider a number of other candidates.
The most interesting question, in my opinion, is which teams will fire their existing coaches on Monday. Will there be vacancies in Houston, Tampa Bay, Chicago and Cleveland, or not? And how will things work out with John Fox in Carolina — will he agree to stay as a lame duck next year, or leave on his own accord (thus giving up a $6 million salary)? It’s entirely possible that few or none of those positions will turn over, in which cases our chances of landing Bill Cowher could go up significantly. And in any event, the smaller the number of teams that are in the market for a new HC, the better our bargaining position in general. That is probably going to be a more important factor in determining the outcome of this search than anything else, so I would suggest paying attention to that rather than rumors about particular candidates that Nix might be interviewing.
Also, this is the time to make the move to interview him since San Diego’s bye week will provide a window of opportunity that may not open again until after the Superbowl
Excellent observation
will he agree to stay as a lame duck next year, or leave on his own accord (thus giving up a $6 million salary)?
Another great point!!
Another guy that I’d love to see in Buffalo and could easily be a possibility as well is Jeff Fisher.
My list of hopeful dreaming would be…
1. Cowher
2. Fisher
3. Marty
4. John Fox
5. Russ Grimm
6. Rivera
Nothing left to say...
It’s anyone’s guess, but I would be very surprised if Fisher leaves Nashville now that their season turned around. He is clearly very comfortable there despite Bud Adams. And I think Marty means it when he says he is retired — which is a good reason not to try to coax him out of it. But otherwise your list is about the same as mine, although I would add Leslie Frazier, the DC from Minnesota.
My list
My A-List
Cowher
Fox
Billick
Grimm
My B-List
Weis
Rivera
M. Schottenheimer
B. Schottenheimer
I disagree on Billick and BSchott
but I like the rest of your list.
It bothers me that Billick, as an offensive guru, never built a good enough offense to contend for a title every year. Also, he’s just a jerk, which, while it isn’t a disqualifying factor, doesn’t help.
Love Grimm.
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by JPH on Jan 2, 2010 4:11 PM EST up reply actions
Yeah, if Fox gets fired he’d jump to the top of my list. His current situation reminds me of Tom Coughlin. Coughlin is more of a disciplinarian. They’ve both had success with expansion franchises, but couldn’t get their teams over the hump. Both run the ball and like tough football teams. I think that, like Coughlin, Fox is the type of guy who could win a Super Bowl.
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i think you're right.
i love fox
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by JPH on Jan 2, 2010 5:56 PM EST up reply actions
Totally agree
I hadn’t thought about the comparison to Coughlin, but it’s accurate.
I was focusing on the no-nonsense, tough approach. I also like he “run and play defense” approach. It would suit the area and the team well.
Fox, Grimm and Cowher top my list
Rivera and Weiss would be fall backs for me, but my dream coaching setup is this:
Fox HC
Rivera Ast. HC and DC
Weiss OC
As my mother once said, common sense isn't as common as it should be, I'm looking at you Ralph, get the Front Office in order, THEN worry about who your HC is....
You wouldn't be able to slap the smile off my face.....until the first game that is :-)
Not sure I would put Fox over Cowher, but if Fox is available, Cowher is not.
"The Bills have no playoff aspirations" – Dan Dierdorf
Well, my assumption there is that Cowher replaces John Fox in Carolina to save ticket sales for them
And we get Fox as our next best choice.
As my mother once said, common sense isn't as common as it should be, I'm looking at you Ralph, get the Front Office in order, THEN worry about who your HC is....
Fox
Is a great candidate…..
If fired he definitly should be put to the top of the list. 1st he is attainable, 2nd he loves to run the snot out of the football. Like any candidate there are cons to the pros. but im not going to elaborate until he is actually avaible to hire. I live near NYC, and Giants fans are hoping he needs a jobs come next season because he has ties to the franchise.
Let the offseason begin
Welcome to the old new Buffalo regime
- You mean the one that lead us to 4 straight Super Bowls. Maybe you were too young to remember that Nix worked for John Butler, A.J. Smith, and Bill Polian – Wow, Rivera would be a good choice! It’s not like we are hiring someone who was with the Lions, or dare I say, the Bills.
Ummm. Buddy Nix was hired by the Bills in 1993.
You might too old to remember that the Bills had played in 3 out of 4 of those Super Bowls before he joined the team. He never worked for Bill Pollian.
by twoeightnine on Jan 2, 2010 12:41 PM EST up reply actions
No
No defensive coordinators as head coach. Please focus on offensive coaching, Bills! For crying out loud. If we do not have a focused plan of attack we may be doomed to watch 6-3 losses to Cleveland for the rest of eternity!
Nix is looking at Rivera because it’s someone he can look at immediately without doing any research. He knows Rivera and he knows he would be a good interview. There hasn’t been enough time to actually research anyone yet, so this is a good idea. It’s a look at someone, someone realistic, and someone that Nix already has a fair idea of.
Mmmph rrgh prrmf! - someone with his mouth gagged
Tony Dungy and Bill Belichek are defensive-minded coaches but had two of the best offenses in the history if the NFL. It’s about the coordinators, people.
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by MattRichWarren on Jan 2, 2010 11:37 AM EST up reply actions
Yes, this. If you look at New England this season, Bellichick has been more involved with the offense because McDaniels left for Denver. They’re hardly prolific this season.
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by TheAfghanTwilight on Jan 2, 2010 11:40 AM EST up reply actions
It’s about the coordinators, people.
…and the all-pro quarterbacks. :)
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by JPH on Jan 2, 2010 1:12 PM EST up reply actions
Well yes.
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by MattRichWarren on Jan 2, 2010 1:18 PM EST up reply actions
It’s about the coordinators, people.
If given the opportunity, I’d love to see Kubiak as the Bills’ OC under a defensive-minded HC.
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Stop giving Dungy credit for Manning’s greatness.
Manning is the reason they were so good, the only thing Dungy did was recognize it and let him do his own thing. Dungy inherited a great offensive team.
Nothing left to say...
and built a good enough defensive team for them to win in the playoffs.
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by JPH on Jan 2, 2010 3:24 PM EST up reply actions
I’m not sure about that one. Other than two exceptional DEs and one under-sized maniac at Safety, their D is not very good. I think Dungy was lucky to have such a potent offense that made every other team one-dimensional. I personally found his Defense in Tampa way superior to anything he did in Indy. I think Monte had a lot to do with it. Tony Dungy is a good administrator and he leaves his coordinators do their jobs but I don’t think he nearly as good as people give him credit for. The Colts Defenses have never been dominant and have rarely played the run very well. The always benefited from having the “sherrif” on the other side of the ball. Dungy was also quite lucky to have a guy like Polian pulling the strings.
I for one would be very disappointed with Dungy as a head coach.
Nothing left to say...
I personally found his Defense in Tampa way superior to anything he did in Indy.
Definitely, but Tampa’s early 2000’s defense was unbelievable. They had like 4 hall of famers and a couple other pro-bowlers.
Other than two exceptional DEs and one under-sized maniac at Safety, their D is not very good. I think Dungy was lucky to have such a potent offense that made every other team one-dimensional
I’m not saying that the defense is great, I’m saying that, unlike Brian Billick, who couldn’t put enough pieces together on offense to be consistently great, Dungy did enough on defense, and didn’t screw up that awesome offense.
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by JPH on Jan 2, 2010 6:00 PM EST up reply actions
Stop giving Dungy credit for Manning’s greatness.
You must have missed where I said “It’s all about the coordinators, people” about guys like Tom Mohr and his assistant Peyton Manning, Charlie Weis and Josh McDaniels.
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by MattRichWarren on Jan 2, 2010 9:30 PM EST up reply actions
well
maybe Nix scanned a list of HC candidates, “didn’t see anyone he knew”, except Rivera. Seems to fit the modus operendi of the last few days. In which case, there is no need for interviews – ala the GM search.
Sorry, just being cynical.
Nix is looking at Rivera because it’s someone he can look at immediately
good point Buffalo Whinner. Remember that Nix was asst GM while living in Tenn. Using your thought Uncle Ralph warned that no position on his team is safe.—- With good old Nix in , maybe he will bring in another ex bill Jim Hasslet to coach, as Ralphy wants to live in the 90’s next he will ask Kelly to suit up. We need a team to win next years they already won in the 90’s
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Some responses
I can’t give you a specific list of who he was integral in drafting, but I can tell you that every year after the draft, Buddy would hold a post-draft press conference and explain what he saw in the individual players that were drafted. So we certainly got the sense that he was VERY integral in scouting and drafting ALL the players.
I personally think Buddy Nix becoming your GM is pretty good move for the bills front office. Many People believe that Buddy Nix was the integral part in the excellent Chargers drafting.. and not AJ Smith.. its believed that once he left the drafting has gone downhill. In general, hes known as one of the top talent evaluators in all of the NFL. At the very least, im sure you guys will draft well for the next while
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by MattRichWarren on Jan 2, 2010 11:39 AM EST reply actions 3 recs
So then can we conclude he had a lot to do with the 2009 Bills draft?
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by Jason from OH-IO on Jan 2, 2010 11:40 AM EST up reply actions
atta boy BK
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by poz on Jan 3, 2010 2:10 AM EST up reply actions
He did yesterday. I didn’t hear him talk about the chargers so I can’t speak to that.
If he wasn’t involved heavily in the Bills draft, then what was his salary for?
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by Jason from OH-IO on Jan 2, 2010 11:43 AM EST reply actions
If he did have something with last year's draft
It couldn’t have been much. The scouting process is an all year round process. Scouts are looking at players a year in advance. I bet whn Nix was brought in, it was more for this year’s draft. By coming in January, he could not catch up on the 2009 draft in time. He probably was just an advisor last year.
Rivera is a legitimate candidate
He’s not my favorite, but no one is denying he’s a top coordinator and he’s consistently on the short list of contenders for every open HC job. I suspect he will be rewarded this offseason by someone. If Shanahan and Cowher are the premiere talent in this year’s field, then Rivera is with Jason Garret and every other popular coordinator in the second tier, which’d be the first tier any year but this one.
Bottom line: Nix wants to interview a guy who everyone in the league thinks will be a good head coach. Why is that a bad thing?
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Because some people see it as Nix interviewing someone he’s comfortable with instead of someone he’s not all comfy with.
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by MattRichWarren on Jan 2, 2010 1:18 PM EST up reply actions
I had that problem with the GM search, but unless Rivera is the only guy he talks to, I think that's baloney.
I know it’s not your argument MRW, but I find it a bit silly. They’ll probably interview Frazier and Garrett and maybe someone like Pete Carmichael.
You know when it’s premature to judge a hiring process? Before it’s even started.
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by JPH on Jan 2, 2010 1:27 PM EST up reply actions
EXACTLY, lets see who else from 1st week bye teams the decide to interview before anyone jumps the poor man on this
As my mother once said, common sense isn't as common as it should be, I'm looking at you Ralph, get the Front Office in order, THEN worry about who your HC is....
"Nix interviewing someone he’s comfortable with"
and isn’t that the idea? Or is it silly for a GM to hire a guy he can get along with? I’ve gotten a kick out of a lot of the posts in this thread…
News flash folks!!! If he’s hired as the Bills HC, I don’t care how good a coordinator he WAS!!! I care about who he hires, and how he manages the coaches he hires…
Rivera has been on the list of HC candidates for years and will get his shot soon.
Because the Bills aren’t going to wind up with Eric DeCosta and Bill Cowher so it’s the worst thing the Bills have ever done apparently.
Bills fan? In Colorado? It's more likely than you think.
by UZ on Jan 2, 2010 2:44 PM EST up reply actions
Rivera is a very legitimate candidate.
A few ppl (MRW and RON I think) mentioned him as a possibility before. And while I understand Jason’s apprehension about going to ppl that Nix knows first, I don’t think that we should be worried.
First Rivera is a very legitimate option for the next HC as other teams have also expressed interest in him in the past. Soncond, Nix has expirience working with Rivera, so if he does get hiered, we’d know that our GM and HC are on the same page, which is VERY important in the NFL. Third, this is only an interview. A lot of us (me included) are hoping for a coach like Coher, but he’s not going to take interviews until the season is entirely over, so why not start the interviewing process with Rivera and interview other coaches afterwords?
Rivera is a good coach. We shouldn’t be worried about his ties to Nix.
by CanadianBillsFan on Jan 2, 2010 1:43 PM EST reply actions
It's true, teams have expressed interest in him in the past.
And he’s been passed over time and time again. Something’s not right there. He’s been a head coach candidate since 2005 and no one has thought high enough of him to give him a shot. I don’t know if it’s because he’s a bad interviewee or something else. He interviewed for 9(!) head coaching jobs in 2 years and didn’t get any.
The defenses that he’s had also haven’t been anything spectacular since he left the Bears. Chicago wasn’t even upset when they couldn’t reach a deal with him.
http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=2771399
Though now the players there are griping about how bad Lovie Smith is doing running it and want Rivera back
Please see this PFT article on an espnchicago.com article.
As my mother once said, common sense isn't as common as it should be, I'm looking at you Ralph, get the Front Office in order, THEN worry about who your HC is....
I would be okay with Rivera.........
you guys can take care of the rest of the gripes/complaints lol.
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by norcaliangelsfan on Jan 2, 2010 2:05 PM EST reply actions
hhahah norcali is checking out for the day...
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by JPH on Jan 2, 2010 3:26 PM EST up reply actions
Im not checking out per se....
its just an interview…..nothing to get all up in arms about…..especially the whole “racial” thing…..
I agree with what Brian said…….this is certianly not the most important thing in the world and some people are treating it as such……
Its just a football team……..
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by norcaliangelsfan on Jan 2, 2010 3:56 PM EST up reply actions
Also, I’m interested at what some people want if they don’t want Nix hiring people he knows and likes.
Would you rather he hire someone he’s never met who rubs him the wrong way but will make the fanbase happier for about 4 days?!
Bills fan? In Colorado? It's more likely than you think.
all well and good
if the person he knows and likes is also the best guy available for the job. Who he "likes’ should not be the #1 criteria. Talent, knowledge, and ability trump “likes” IMO.
One thing to consider with this Rivera interview is that it’s pretty rare for coordinators to interview during that first week of the playoffs as most teams wouldn’t allow their guys to do it and instead would rather force them to focus on the upcoming game. Obviously, with AJ Smith’s relationship with Nix, that wasn’t an issue. This is a smart move by Buffalo because they might not have gotten the chance to interview Rivera for a month or more. Interview everybody that you can as quick as you can. You also have to wait a week and a half after the season to interview coordinators of teams that have been eliminated or didn’t make the playoffs without permission. So it’s not like Buffalo could interview many other guys early next week.
When talking about a potential defensive scheme, it should also be noted that Rivera played in the 46 defense of the Bears in the late 80s.
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I agree, Nix is very smart to interview him now
Adds leverage for us negotiating with others. Gives us lots of time to decide, whereas if we might not get the chance after the season.
Nothing left to say...
You speak as if they’ve already gotten permission to interview him, but I was unaware that they’d even asked yet…
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by Brian Galliford on Jan 2, 2010 4:52 PM EST up reply actions
If I was A.J. the interview would be in San Diego and on Tuesday or Wednesday next week.
Get the distraction in and over with. The bills will have one more road trip. The man still has work to do and I wouldn’t want him distracted one bit longer than necessary.
Is it really average talent or just poor coaching, how important is depth and experience.
I guess I was just working off the assumption that AJ Smith would allow his former #2 to interview him this week. I think it makes too much sense to not happen.
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except that Nix didn't leave on the best of terms, as far as I understand it.
Jonathan Stupar won the Heisman…while playing in the NFL!
by JPH on Jan 2, 2010 6:02 PM EST up reply actions
That is an excellent point that I had not considered. Nix was supposedly a Marty backer and things got really ugly between Smith and Schottenheimer. Nix did leave for a reason after all. Great point.
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Bolts blog said.....
there was tension between AJ and Nix. I doubt AJ gives persmission for RR to interview.
Let the offseason begin
Although this certainly could be a consideration if the Bills are the only team to ask for permission to interview RR, it should be noted that if AJ turns down the Bills request, he must turn down all teams requests to interview Riveria. He can’t pick and choose. So, if someone else, say the Redskins, asked before the Bills and Smith approved the request, he would have no choice but to approve the Bills request as well.
Bill Polian and AJ Smith are gone, so there's not the usual balance between "sane" and "others." Ralph has mentally checked out since 1994. It's a very dangerous time. The coalition for reason is extremely weak.
Shouldn't the front office be cleaned up a little more.
Buddy should finish replacing Guy and Modrak amoung others before hiring a head coach. Or is the head coach going to replace these guys. Granted this is just an interview and the timing is valid with the charges schedule, but wouldn’t Rivera want to know who he is working with. I am sure the HC will have input on his coordinators, but the space between HC and GM doesn’t seem settled for a canidate of Rivera or any canidate to consider the position seriously.
Is it really average talent or just poor coaching, how important is depth and experience.
It’s just an interview. I doubt a head coach is hired anytime soon, giving Buffalo plenty of time to make other moves. And just like the head coach, they can’t hire front office guys from other teams away until a week and a half after their season ends. I’d bet that things are happening, but we just don’t hear about how some regional scout in San Diego is being considered as the new director of college scouting or anything like that.
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My question is
Wouldn’t this be relavent to the potential Head Coach. Let’s say Cowher is seriously interested, wouldn’t he want to know and have some trust in the people he is working with from top to bottom?
Is it really average talent or just poor coaching, how important is depth and experience.
You may have already answered. Could be part of the interviewing process as well.
Is it really average talent or just poor coaching, how important is depth and experience.
That’s a good point. It’s possible that somebody would want to meet some people at an interview and get a feel for the operation. In that sense, it definitely makes sense for the Bills to get their act together before they interview people. At the same time, it’s just Ron Rivera who I doubt would turn down the Bills unless he got a different head coaching offer from another team. And if Buffalo were to get an interview with Rivera next week, it would still give the Bills a few days to make other moves and a week or two before guys other than Rivera were interviewed.
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Heck, if he comes in, they could simply ask the interviewees
“Who can you work with out of this FO structure we have in place right now? We will be getting rid of some people but a number will stay, who can you live with or without?” I know if a few job interviews I was asked questions like that about various people in the office.
As my mother once said, common sense isn't as common as it should be, I'm looking at you Ralph, get the Front Office in order, THEN worry about who your HC is....
the other thing they mentioned is this is the only time they might have to interview Rivera until the Superbowl is over. Rivera is probably busy with his current job at the moment.
What would NIx do? Come in on Thursday, fire a bunch a people on Friday, interview Rivera on Monday? It would be smart if Nix had some ideas for replacements before firing Guy and Modrak.
as long as
Buddy Nix has complete control and shows us by firing Modrak and Guy then this can work. But if Nix does not have 100% control of every football decision this has no chance to work.
RIvera is a good start. Cowher has to be 1A, with Rivera and whoever else is on their list to follow
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Brian Billick to interview
According to Pro Football talk Brain Billick is going to interview for the Head coaching position. So now we all can a deep breath all the people who were scared silly about hiring Ron Rivera. It’s a long process as Brian said lets all take a deep breath.
Billick
All you guys who love inside football info might like Billick’s new book, “More Than A Game.” He had some interesting stats and college draft comments into in it, among other stuff. Billick is a lot more cerebral than I would have guessed. Anyway, check it out.
by ccthemovieman on Jan 2, 2010 6:35 PM EST up reply actions
Like I said earlier, it’s not like they had already hired Rivera!
Nix said that he had a list that was going to slowly narrow down to 3 or so guys and work from there. From what I’ve heard so far I’m plenty happy with the guys he’s picked thus far, especially if Billick is on the list.
Bills fan? In Colorado? It's more likely than you think.
by UZ on Jan 2, 2010 10:35 PM EST up reply actions
Slightly Off-topic
If, as Ralph said, Nix is in charge of finding a football coach, what’ve they been doing since they fired Jauron? Who had conversations with Shanahan?
That part of the process seems a little convoluted. We’ve talked about the timing of this- as far as I’m concerned, if we were going to go with Nix I would rather they did it back when they fired Jauron, because either they’ve wasted a few weeks or Nix is been placed into someone else’s process, neither situation is ideal, IMO.
Jonathan Stupar won the Heisman…while playing in the NFL!
They had Brandon go talk to Shanahan, the issue is that Snyder wants him worse than anyone else and will way overpay
what we were talking about, probably in the 10+ million range as you need to outspend the remaining money on his contract with the Broncos which is about 8 million a year, so you gotta overpay him anyhow. Also, there could have been a situation where he told the Bills he had to have someone specifically in the FO or he would have to have all control, we don’t know the specifics.
As my mother once said, common sense isn't as common as it should be, I'm looking at you Ralph, get the Front Office in order, THEN worry about who your HC is....
Shanahan interviewed w/ Russ Brandon in Denver.
Russ/Modrak/Guy making moves on personel since Jauron left.
Yeah, and even if it’s Nix who will be picking the next coach, I’d guess Brandon will be very involved.
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