Report: Dan Reeves interested in joining Gailey
by Brian Galliford on Jan 21, 2010 9:31 PM EST
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Former Atlanta and Denver head coach Dan Reeves, in an interview with WIVB-TV in Buffalo, has expressed interest in joining new Buffalo Bills head coach Chan Gailey's coaching staff. Gailey, who was introduced as Buffalo's fifteenth head coach on Tuesday, has yet to make any assistant coaching hires.
Making sure to point out that Gailey has not contacted him, Reeves had the following to say about Gailey's presence in Buffalo and the prospect of joining him there:
"He hasn’t reached out to me, but I coached him in Little League and he might give me a chance. He might come back and try to see if I could help him out... I tell you, if I could help Chan Gailey out, I would certainly be interested in that."
Reeves, 66, last coached in the NFL in 2003. Gailey worked on Reeves' staff in Denver in several capacities, including special teams coordinator, tight ends coach, receivers coach and even offensive coordinator. The two last worked together in 1990, before Gailey left to become head coach of the Birmingham Fire.
Last year, Reeves nearly joined Dallas in an advisory role before a disagreement with owner Jerry Jones caused him to back out of the deal. He also interviewed for the offensive coordinator position in San Francisco under current head coach Mike Singletary.
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Sure, why not?
"It took twenty five years to get there, and they did it in championship style" - Van Miller 1/20/91.
by Michael_Necci on Jan 21, 2010 9:33 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Reeves has a wealth of knowledge
I hope Gailey hires him in some capacity.
by ccthemovieman on Jan 21, 2010 9:39 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Running backs coach?
Even as an advisor, his input would be valuable. Bring him in.
Get the Bills back to the big game!
by Blitz on Jan 22, 2010 11:07 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
The only thing that makes me nervous about him is that Gailey might be looking over his shoulder.
It can always get worse. Let me tell you how.
by Ron From NM on Jan 21, 2010 9:41 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
OC or DC? Assistant HC?
by TedWashington'sRobotDance on Jan 21, 2010 9:44 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
OC, and maybe even assistant HC. That is if he gets hired.
Jesus, if that mouthy little f***er didn’t manage to get open so often I think I would have punched him in the face years ago. - Tom Brady on Wes Welker
by CanadianBillsFan on Jan 21, 2010 10:17 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
well since chan is the defacto OC
reeves would hold that title but just be advisory im guessing? doesnt sound bad to me. does reeves fit into chans “teaching” mentality?
Buffalo, that's where it's at baby. - Adam 'Pacman' Jones
by silverstreak3k on Jan 21, 2010 9:45 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
I think thats exactly it if Chan hires him, Dan was/is known in league circles for being a good teacher
And if Chan will call plays, but he and Reeves are on the same page as for what should be learned each week by the O, I think it could work very well.
Nix and Chan, the new Cheech and Chong of the Bills, hopefully they will be as successful in business as they were, and not so much the drug fueled comedy act....
by WABillsfan on Jan 22, 2010 2:12 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Shottenheimer is older
Still waiting for the playoffs.... Go Bills 2010 !!!!
by killascript on Jan 21, 2010 10:39 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
actually
Reeves does have him beat by 8 months or so
Still waiting for the playoffs.... Go Bills 2010 !!!!
by killascript on Jan 21, 2010 10:40 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Oh yeah. Forgot about that.
by TedWashington'sRobotDance on Jan 21, 2010 9:46 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
I wonder how many coaches with southern accents can be on one staff before it is considered discrimination?
They should have to at least interview someone from the North….call it the Yankee Rule :-)
I wonder if any of the can tell us what the hell Leo is saying??
"Do you even hear how totally bat sh!t insane you sound?" - Archer
by Joe P. on Jan 21, 2010 9:47 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
I wonder if any of them can tell us what the hell Leo is saying??
ha. now that’s funny.
most of my posts get deleted :(
by dzil on Jan 21, 2010 9:54 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I kind of like it
It makes me feel at home listening to them.
I don’t doubt their ability to identify good players and then coach them. And they don’t seem to be the types to take a whole lot of crap.
Plus, SEC’s a decent football league…. Southerners might know something about football.
by Der Jaeger on Jan 21, 2010 10:06 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
No doubt
Southerners might know something about football
and NASCAR …..and drinking heavily, which we come in hand :-)
"Do you even hear how totally bat sh!t insane you sound?" - Archer
by Joe P. on Jan 21, 2010 10:10 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
and drinking heavily, which we come in hand :-)
Yeah, especially as Bills fans.
Jesus, if that mouthy little f***er didn’t manage to get open so often I think I would have punched him in the face years ago. - Tom Brady on Wes Welker
by CanadianBillsFan on Jan 21, 2010 10:18 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
wow, did I butcher that....should have said"....which will come in handy"
"Do you even hear how totally bat sh!t insane you sound?" - Archer
by Joe P. on Jan 21, 2010 10:21 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Joe...
you’d drink heavy (I know, your a Bills fan, so ya do…:-) and prolly drive around in circles too if ya just found out your wife wern’t jis yer cousin…. Let me tell ya what!!!!
It sorta sucks to find out she’s yer sister too!!!!
by Cinga on Jan 21, 2010 10:26 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
LOL!!!!! How Joe Dirt of you
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oDKX1-_vQYw
"Do you even hear how totally bat sh!t insane you sound?" - Archer
by Joe P. on Jan 21, 2010 10:32 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Actually Joe, NASCAR and sleeping go hand in hand.
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by TheAfghanTwilight on Jan 22, 2010 7:01 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Thats good Joe….
Im now convinced that children under five shouldnt smoke...Peter Griffin
by Stabby Mcshank on Jan 21, 2010 9:49 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
This is really going to mess with the
Shanahan never won anything without Elway crowd.
by twoeightnine on Jan 21, 2010 9:59 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Oh.. Man.......... this is crazy!!!!!
But completely Buffalistic! First thoughts…….. NUTS!
………………………. Completely Buffaloed………. for a few moments………
Second thoughts, the Bills need to boost their heathcare benefits to employees because these guys will wear out the heathplan.
After breathing a little…………
I don’t hate it.
Dan is a proven leader and has vast experience in the NFL. If we are going for broke with our senior citizens like the movie “Space Cowboys” then lets do it! Maybe Tommy Lee Jones and Clint can come coach up our squad during preseason!
Maybe these old men can teach the boys a thing or two.
Plus, Dan and Chan are in on the coaches network and can find us some good coordinators. This is starting to look good to me folks.
Jump on board the Senior Train!
WHOOOOOO—-HOOOOOOOOO!!! ALLLLLL ABBBOOOOOARRRRDDD!
Almost forgot: Ticket please.
Gotta buy a ticket.
"A failure becomes just one time at bat if you refuse to let it defeat you." Marv Levy.
by SERGEANT MAJOR THOR on Jan 21, 2010 10:01 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Maybe Ralph heard us talking about how much we like the "throwbacks" and thought we meant front office and coaching personnel??????
"Do you even hear how totally bat sh!t insane you sound?" - Archer
by Joe P. on Jan 21, 2010 10:07 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
Every ticket comes with a complimentary Lifeline Elderly Alert necklace emergency alarm
by Der Jaeger on Jan 21, 2010 10:09 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Bills marketing for 2010:
“I’ve fallen, and I can’t get up!”
2010 Bills' truth in advertising: "Look out Cleveland, this year we score 6!" - bluecollarbuffalo
by thefourwinds on Jan 21, 2010 10:52 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
That could sum up the Bills for the last decade
But you shouldn’t talk about Ralph like that…
Get the Bills back to the big game!
by Blitz on Jan 22, 2010 10:59 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I'm in. Heck I put it up in the fansots before Brian highjacked the story ;-)
If we dont hire him as a coach then we could still very much use him in the front office. I’m sure that Chan. Nix and Dan could get us a hell of a coaching staff. And Dan and Nix could combine to make a hell of a scouting team too.
I’m positive that we can find a spot for Dan Reeves somewhere on this team.
Jesus, if that mouthy little f***er didn’t manage to get open so often I think I would have punched him in the face years ago. - Tom Brady on Wes Welker
by CanadianBillsFan on Jan 21, 2010 10:22 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
How old can this organization get ?????
A 91 year old owner, a 71 year old and now a 66 year old assistant coach. Why not bring Joel Collier Sr. out of retirement, he is only 76….
I have a hard time seeing Dan Reeves singing “Pants on the Ground” with the team after a big win…..
by buffalo69 on Jan 21, 2010 10:11 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
I’ll just reply here: 66 isn’t that old. 66 brings knowledge. 66 brings experience.
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by TheAfghanTwilight on Jan 22, 2010 7:06 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Bobby Bowden
might be looking for work too
by shouldbeworking on Jan 22, 2010 7:10 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
What? No credit for putting it up in the fanshots?
Jesus, if that mouthy little f***er didn’t manage to get open so often I think I would have punched him in the face years ago. - Tom Brady on Wes Welker
by CanadianBillsFan on Jan 21, 2010 10:15 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
No credit for putting it in yesterday’s Web Rumblings at 6:30AM? LOL just messin’ CBF. You know we love you.
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by MattRichWarren on Jan 22, 2010 10:35 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Firing John Guy and possibly hiring Dan Reeves?
Decisions I agree with….what the hell is going on? Is this opposite day?
From Reeves wikipedia:
He played in two Super Bowls, Super Bowl V and Super Bowl VI and also coached in four more, Super Bowl XXI, Super Bowl XXII and Super Bowl XXIV as the Denver Broncos’ head coach, and Super Bowl XXXIII as the head coach of the Atlanta Falcons.
Wow, you can’t argue with that resume. I say sign him up.
And so what if Gailey is looking over his shoulder…he should be! I would actually love to see Reeves as head coach and Gailey as O-coordinator….
Good God though, Ralph Wilson age 91, Buddy Nix age 71, Chan Gailey age 58 and possibly Dan Reeves age 66? One Bills Drive better stock up on the milk of magnesia, vicks vapor rub, depends diapers……
by StroudFanClub on Jan 21, 2010 10:17 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Chan's only up 7 yrs on me...
but I’ll still run circles around most 20 yr olds around here….:-)
Age is what you make of it… Ya wanna be old??? Go for it.. I chose to stay in shape, and plan to finally keel over while climbing Everest or something…
by Cinga on Jan 21, 2010 10:31 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Hey, that's great to hear you feel so good. But would you want to work 20 hour days in the NFL in 10 years?
But don’t take it from me, take a look at this article from Bill Simmons:
I’m introducing the Speed Limit Coaching Corollary. If the coach of your favorite team is older than 55, or if your team is about to hire someone who’s older than 55, there’s a good chance you should start preparing for a frustrating stretch of football.
http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/page2/story?page=simmons/070112
He makes some good points. And if this theory is true, well, I don’t need to tell you that it doesn’t look good for our Buffalo Bills!
by StroudFanClub on Jan 21, 2010 10:40 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
MArv was the exception apparently
and I think I knew that… the older guys just aren’t that great… the prime to be a great coach is in the 40s into early 50s and while the knowledge is there, they just don’t have the moxie.
Still waiting for the playoffs.... Go Bills 2010 !!!!
by killascript on Jan 21, 2010 10:43 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I keep digging this the more I think about it......
…. Marv took a lot of crap from the players for being "old’. And they loved him after they trusted him.
… Old guys who maintain themselves have a lot to teach. I went to Salt Lake 3 years ago to visit my 85 year old Uncle. And he took us white water rafting down in MOAB, go-cart riding (he kicked my butt) and horseback riding. Thank God it was summer because he would’ve took me skiing up the BIG hills there. Which he still does today.
Insane.
I just retired from the Army, and the young Patriots joining today could be my children. The call me the “old man” but they all love me because I take care of them and point them in them in the proper direction when needed. They still call me and say they miss me.
Don’t think that our young players for a second won’t be impressed with what they bring to the table.
Don’t count out the old boys. Ever.
"A failure becomes just one time at bat if you refuse to let it defeat you." Marv Levy.
by SERGEANT MAJOR THOR on Jan 21, 2010 11:00 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
But he's Bill Simmons
Doesn’t that automatically lose him some points?
by mob16151 on Jan 22, 2010 1:03 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Cinga,
You’re absolutely spot on. I’ve seen tons of “elderly” running in triathlons. One guy finished not too many minutes behind me, and he was 78 at the time.
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by TheAfghanTwilight on Jan 22, 2010 7:09 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
More playoff experience!
I’m all for loading up the staff with as many guys that have extensive playoff experience as possible. Perhaps then, someone aside from the fans and the players that have been here their whole careers and been shut out will be furious about not making it to the post season!
When the leadership is TRULY disgusted with not making it to the playoffs, things will change. Get enough people here that have been around winning in the NFL enough, and it just may work!
by Caleb R on Jan 21, 2010 11:01 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Buffalo: Where Old is Young
Dan Reeves, really? Isn’t 7 years out of the league a bit much???
~K
"As the governor of Louisiana once said, the only way Chris Kelsay can lose his job is if he got caught in bed with a dead girl or a live boy."
by Kurupt on Jan 21, 2010 11:36 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Buck up Lil' Camper........
K,
Breathe…….. in….. and out…………. in ………. and out.
Whew.
Didn’t that feel good?
Now go rest until the draft, dust off your party hat, and let’s hope for the best.
At least they are trying. Isn’t that what everyone wanted?
"A failure becomes just one time at bat if you refuse to let it defeat you." Marv Levy.
by SERGEANT MAJOR THOR on Jan 21, 2010 11:43 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
As a coach? Yeah, probably is. As an advisor to the team and part of the front office? Absolutly not.
I think that Reeves could really come in handy for when it comes to hireing the right coachs and coordinators for Chan, as well as helping Nix and Chan in the war room come draft time. At thispoint in his life/career thats what Reeves should be looking to do for us, and thats what I hope he ends up doing for us.
Jesus, if that mouthy little f***er didn’t manage to get open so often I think I would have punched him in the face years ago. - Tom Brady on Wes Welker
by CanadianBillsFan on Jan 21, 2010 11:47 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Can you imagine the stinch of Ben Guay coming out of coaches meetings?
Nothing left to say... the clock is ticking...
by keysh67 on Jan 22, 2010 12:09 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Coaches meetings that take place at 6 AM
and will all be finished in time to hit the early bird special at Bennigans
~K
"As the governor of Louisiana once said, the only way Chris Kelsay can lose his job is if he got caught in bed with a dead girl or a live boy."
by Kurupt on Jan 22, 2010 12:11 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
All wrong there K on the schedule.....
Wake up at 0400. Shower…. put on a suit and tie.
Go to the local diner for breakfast and have a coaches informal meeting at 0500.
Off to the stadium for film study and meetings 0600-1400.
Naptime in the office. 1400-1430.
More meetings and film study 1430-1600.
Adjourne and everyone meet over at the VFW for $8 prime-rib dinner and “shorties”.
Then, off to night-night.
Repeat again.
"A failure becomes just one time at bat if you refuse to let it defeat you." Marv Levy.
by SERGEANT MAJOR THOR on Jan 22, 2010 12:21 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
You couldn't squeeze in a bingo game?
or time to watch Jay Leno?
~K
"As the governor of Louisiana once said, the only way Chris Kelsay can lose his job is if he got caught in bed with a dead girl or a live boy."
by Kurupt on Jan 22, 2010 12:28 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
There has to be bingo involved
Or at the very least some slot machines.
"Fan ?" You want to talk about being a fan of the Bills ? Try getting up at 3 AM every Monday to watch their games knowing they'll likely lose. Do this for 18 years and then call yourself a "fan"
by Will G on Jan 22, 2010 12:44 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
They may TiVo Jay to watch while getting dressed in the morning
Its hard to coach in snowy cold Buffalo man!
Nix and Chan, the new Cheech and Chong of the Bills, hopefully they will be as successful in business as they were, and not so much the drug fueled comedy act....
by WABillsfan on Jan 22, 2010 2:15 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I wonder if anyone told those good ’ol southern boys that Buffalo can get downright nasty weatherwise?
Nothing left to say... the clock is ticking...
by keysh67 on Jan 22, 2010 8:20 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
50$ says that Chan bails it back to the south the minute that January comes around.
Jesus, if that mouthy little f***er didn’t manage to get open so often I think I would have punched him in the face years ago. - Tom Brady on Wes Welker
by CanadianBillsFan on Jan 22, 2010 8:36 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
what are you saying?
you don’t think we can make the playoffs??
Nothing left to say... the clock is ticking...
by keysh67 on Jan 22, 2010 10:56 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Not next season, no. I honestly think we’re another 3 seasons away… 2 if we’re lucky.
by CanadianBillsFan on Jan 22, 2010 1:24 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
you do realize that I was pulling your leg…
You are luckier than me because you still seem to have some level of expectations left, me I’m all tapped out! The problem with the whole 3y scenario for me is I doubt Mr Wilson can push another 3y and at this point I am not very optimistic about the outcome upon his passing.
Nothing left to say... the clock is ticking...
by keysh67 on Jan 22, 2010 4:43 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Call me a skeptical optimist. Although I’m slowly getting to your level.
by CanadianBillsFan on Jan 22, 2010 6:30 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
First we have to have a meaningful January game!
by freddyjj on Jan 22, 2010 12:01 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Thats the point, we wont have any meaningfull January games, hence why Chan will bolt to the south.
by CanadianBillsFan on Jan 22, 2010 1:25 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
TiVo? They still have the blinking 12:00 on their VCRs.
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by MattRichWarren on Jan 22, 2010 10:36 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Hey....
tapes are only 25 cents each at the flea market…
by Cinga on Jan 22, 2010 10:42 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Now we’re cookin’ with gas.
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by MattRichWarren on Jan 22, 2010 11:32 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
and the fleas are free!
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by Joe P. on Jan 22, 2010 11:40 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
No.....that would be crabs :-)
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by Joe P. on Jan 22, 2010 4:43 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
And come to think of it, we’re going to have to send a memo to the league scheduling department and make sure there are no Saturday games because Saturdays are reserved for flea markets, and you want to be first in line for the good crap.
Nothing left to say... the clock is ticking...
by keysh67 on Jan 22, 2010 8:19 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Leno will be on past their bedtime after March 1st.
Delightfully Ignoring The Truth since 1995.
by NeverendingOptimism on Jan 22, 2010 11:24 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
dude
im not gonna lie, im 25 and i think that sounds like a good day.
Buffalo, that's where it's at baby. - Adam 'Pacman' Jones
by silverstreak3k on Jan 22, 2010 2:06 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Not really
Hey K, Wasn’t Dick Vermeil out of coaching for like 20 years or something like that? And I’m pretty sure that worked out well for the Rams.
by Moose68 on Jan 22, 2010 4:34 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
i support a dan reeves hiring. where did he last coach (in 2003)? was it the falcons?
by chaucer on Jan 21, 2010 11:44 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
I like the “yankee rule”.Doesn’t every office need someone that they can talk about behind their backs?
"This is what happens Larry!, This is what happens! "-Walter Sobchak
by BigEasyBillsKrewe on Jan 21, 2010 11:46 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
“did yall hear him say the color erndge” Hah!
"This is what happens Larry!, This is what happens! "-Walter Sobchak
by BigEasyBillsKrewe on Jan 21, 2010 11:48 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Is it me
or does Wu-Tang Chan have giant ears?
~K
"As the governor of Louisiana once said, the only way Chris Kelsay can lose his job is if he got caught in bed with a dead girl or a live boy."
by Kurupt on Jan 22, 2010 12:12 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
He heard that
"This is what happens Larry!, This is what happens! "-Walter Sobchak
by BigEasyBillsKrewe on Jan 22, 2010 12:14 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
LOL, I choked on sipping my coffee – good one!
Nothing left to say... the clock is ticking...
by keysh67 on Jan 22, 2010 8:21 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
At least we could brag about...
Having the oldest average age of Front Office personnel in the NFL ;)
by StandingBillFan on Jan 22, 2010 1:41 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
To go along with our youngest average age team in the league. I would pay to see the look on Chan’s face the first time Donte Whitner comes in half an hour late for a meeting with rap screaming out of his SUV.
Jesus, if that mouthy little f***er didn’t manage to get open so often I think I would have punched him in the face years ago. - Tom Brady on Wes Welker
by CanadianBillsFan on Jan 22, 2010 6:46 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Better than 2 years ago
When we had the biggest, softest OL in the league
The Stay-Puffed Possie
Peters- Dockery-Preston- Butler -Walker
the only line they belonged on was for the buffet!
by freddyjj on Jan 22, 2010 12:03 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Dan Reeves also coached the New York Giants in the 90s
though it’s understandable this was forgotten, the stint itself was forgettable.
Mmmph rrgh prrmf! - someone with his mouth gagged
by Dyl on Jan 22, 2010 3:46 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
Vick
Reeves was the one who drafted him……if he signs on with the Bills, its looking like we might have another number 7 in B-lo again.
"Security comes from earning it--not seeking it." Marv Levy
by howedyhowe on Jan 22, 2010 8:23 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
not really a Vick follower
but, if he were full-time QB, do you think he’d have trouble in the Ralph when the weather turns? College was really a non-factor, He was a domer in ATL, and only played sparingly in Philly.
"I, I, I have become comfortably numb" P. Floyd
by fansince60 on Jan 22, 2010 8:29 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Of course he would have trouble. He is a terrible passing QB, and strong winds won’t help that at all, but he is better than all the QB’s we have, and he is a great stop-gap solution for at least a year or two. Defenses have to respect his running ability, so maybe we will see a few deep bombs….maybe, if they aren’t up in the Rock Pile.
"Security comes from earning it--not seeking it." Marv Levy
by howedyhowe on Jan 22, 2010 8:34 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Of course he would have trouble. He is a terrible passing QB, and strong winds won’t help that at all
Thanks. Not a glowing endorsement. I’ll pass. $$$ could go to better use.
"I, I, I have become comfortably numb" P. Floyd
by fansince60 on Jan 22, 2010 8:39 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
$$$ could go to better use.
To who??? A giant rookie contract that might never be filled?
"Security comes from earning it--not seeking it." Marv Levy
by howedyhowe on Jan 22, 2010 8:42 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Hey just because we have the money doesn't mean that we actually need to use it!
If we can`t find a good vet to be our starter why should we spend 5M on a guy that we know wont cut it?
Jesus, if that mouthy little f***er didn’t manage to get open so often I think I would have punched him in the face years ago. - Tom Brady on Wes Welker
by CanadianBillsFan on Jan 22, 2010 8:47 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Who says he won’t cut it? You?
Last time I checked he was a 3 time Pro-Bowl QB, who has taken his team to the playoffs.
I’m not saying he is still that same great player, but what he showed the last 4-5 weeks of this past season is that he still has it, to a degree.
"Security comes from earning it--not seeking it." Marv Levy
by howedyhowe on Jan 22, 2010 8:53 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
he showed the last 4-5 weeks of this past season is that he still has it
How? By completing 6 passes and 1 touchdowns? Colour me unimpressed.
by CanadianBillsFan on Jan 22, 2010 9:07 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
The ratio of scores he had this season to the amount of time he actually played is pretty darn good. Better than any player on our team this year.
"Security comes from earning it--not seeking it." Marv Levy
by howedyhowe on Jan 22, 2010 9:10 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
His completion percentage is less than 45%! Add that to the fact that he was sacked for more yards lost that he actually ran for and he would get KILLED behind our line. I stand by my previous statements.
by CanadianBillsFan on Jan 22, 2010 9:17 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
He was used as a gadget guy…he was our Roscoe….
he would get KILLED behind our line
Well I would hope that if we got Vick, that would mean we didn’t use our 1st rounder on a QB, and would address the O-Line. On top of that, with a terrible O-Line you are going to want someone who can elude the pressure, and make a play.
Say what you want about his bad completion percentage, or his baggage. The fact of the matter is that the guy can win games, and he brings an all new excitement to the field.
"Security comes from earning it--not seeking it." Marv Levy
by howedyhowe on Jan 22, 2010 9:23 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
provided of course he still has that edge that makes him the fastest/quickest player – he may have lost that.
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by J2 on Jan 22, 2010 9:24 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Thats why you take a chance. You take the same chance with any rookie you bring in, or any other vet. You hope he works out, and wins you football games.
"Security comes from earning it--not seeking it." Marv Levy
by howedyhowe on Jan 22, 2010 9:26 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
with a terrible O-Line you are going to want someone who can elude the pressure, and make a play.
Heres the problem with that mentality when taking Vick into consideration. Vick has never had bad O-line in front of him, and has never needed to make plays because of that line. At his most successfull in Atlanta he had a GREAT run blocking line in front of him that was fantastic at moving horizontally on the feild in order to create the space that he needed to make his famous running plays. If you look at film from Vick’s best days, more often than not that line moved 5 to 7 yards sideway with Vick, picking up linbakers in the process, and leaving Vick to only have to content with the secondary and very fast, undersized linebakers. Vick was successfull because his line was taylor made for his running style. Vick has shown to greatly struggle when taking snaps behind a regular line that is made for a more traditional offense, which is what we have.
And even if we do draft an OT in the first round, which is NOT a given, I doubt that that OT will make enough of an impact to be able to properly cover Vick’s erradic style. In fact having Vick as a QB is the perfect way to confuse a rookie thats on the O-Line.
The fact of the matter is that the guy can win games, and he brings an all new excitement to the field.
The fact of the matter is that the guy COULD win a few games with his feet in the past. He can’t anymore, or at least has shown no sign of still being able to. Add that to the fact that he is a HORRIBLY inaccurate passer. Most use to blame his WR’s when he was in Atlanta, but as soon as he was gone Atlanta’s receiving corpssuddenly got better. Heck they had two 1000 yard receivers with Joey Harrington, Byron Leftwich and Chris Redman throwing the the ball!
Add that to the fact that Vick has never had ANY playoff success and is in fact mostly blamed for Atlanta’s playoff loses when he was there and you get a QB that will now losemore games for you than he will win if you depend on him as your starter. Case in point: who did Philly go to when McNabb went down (even though momentarily) this season? Kolb, not Vick.
Vick is a has-been that should never be depended on as a starting option again. He’s a gadget guy and thats it! rying to sign him on as our starter would be the worst possible thing that the Bills could do this season.
by CanadianBillsFan on Jan 22, 2010 9:50 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Add that to the fact that Vick has never had ANY playoff success
I seem to remember the Falcons going into GB and beating them in below zero weather, pushing them to the NFC Championship game.
who did Philly go to when McNabb went down
That was also in the first 4 weeks of the season, Vick was still learning the playbook, and was suspended till week 3.
I understand you do not like the man, but please do not skew the facts to help your argument.
"Security comes from earning it--not seeking it." Marv Levy
by howedyhowe on Jan 22, 2010 9:59 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I actually do like Vick, just not as a starting QB for our team.
As for his playoff success, that was 1 year, he has lost every playoff game since.
As for the Philly thing. Its not skewing the facts, the Eagles went to Kolb, not Vick. In fact theres talk of the Eagles going to Kolb full time instead of McNabb. Again, it’s not Vick.
Vick is a has-been to should only be relied upon as a gadget/wildcat QB. Not a primary option. And the fact that you blatantly ignore these facts shows that your vision of Vick is just as skewed as mine. At least I tried to debate my point with actualy facts.
by CanadianBillsFan on Jan 22, 2010 10:50 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
He is actually 2-2 in the playoffs.
When McNabb went down, they had to go with Kolb, because Vick was still suspended.
Vick’s completion percentage is 53.7….not good at all.
But on average as a full time starter he passes for 2500 yards, rushes for about 800 yards, and averages about 21 touchdowns between the two. Much, much better stats than anyone on the Bills roster in a long time.
"Security comes from earning it--not seeking it." Marv Levy
by howedyhowe on Jan 22, 2010 11:16 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Entirely agreed. And if we could get that Vick in a Buffalo uniform I would be right on board and be as enthoused as you seem to be. But I for one think that that Micheal Vick is long gone. I don’t think that he’s nearly the athelete that he used to be. And seeing as how he was a QB that almost entirely depended on his athletisism, an seeing how that athletisism is nowhere near what it used to be, I’m very skeptical that he can still be a franchise QB, or even a starter.
I still think that he has great value as a gadget/wildcat qb, as I’m sure you do. I just do think that that value translate into a starting QB.
by CanadianBillsFan on Jan 22, 2010 1:29 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
No Vick, No Tebow please...
I do not want to tailor an offense to a particular player…which is what must be done in order for either of these two to be successful
by NorCal BillsFan on Jan 22, 2010 4:00 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Thats exactly the point that I was trying to make above. Funny how you have a way to turn a full 10 page essay into two sentances ;-)
by CanadianBillsFan on Jan 22, 2010 6:31 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
What do you expect his completion percentage to be?
He was a guy that came in cold off the bench each time and was used to run the wildcat or some other gadget play. He didn’t exactly have a tradtional QB role.
Not sure where you’re finding these sack “numbers” from, but Vick wasn’t sacked all season. He also averaged 4 yards per rush.
If you want to look at Vick’s numbers and skewer them, how about we go the other way too: He had a 125.5 QB rating this season.
~K
"As the governor of Louisiana once said, the only way Chris Kelsay can lose his job is if he got caught in bed with a dead girl or a live boy."
by Kurupt on Jan 22, 2010 9:37 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I'm not sure where you're getting these QB "numbers" from
but his QB rating was 93.8.
http://www.nfl.com/players/michaelvick/profile?id=VIC311467
Personally I’m a fan of normalizing avg numbers too. With a small sample one play can completely skewer numbers. Is Corey McIntyre a future OPOY? He did rush for 6.9 YPC. Of course not but his one 25 yard run hides the fact that every other run was for 2 yards. Take away Vick’s one run for 34 yards and you get 23 carries at a 2.5 clip which is closer to what he actually averaged on a week by week basis.
by twoeightnine on Jan 22, 2010 10:09 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Take a look at his numbers for the season, playoffs included
7-15, 142 yards, 2 TD’s, 0 INT’s
Plug that into any NFL QB rating calculator…
~K
"As the governor of Louisiana once said, the only way Chris Kelsay can lose his job is if he got caught in bed with a dead girl or a live boy."
by Kurupt on Jan 23, 2010 1:45 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Chuck Noll is available
Nothing like making a fresh start.
by Pruitt on Jan 22, 2010 8:58 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
Just remember folks that who ever comes in will essentially be an advisor for Chan as he will be calling plays and ultimately be the OC. To have someone with some good knowledge and experience like Reeves to help him along can do wonders.
Only thing I would recommend would be to have an Assistant to the OC so those 2 can groom that person.
I think Reeves would be better than some people we could potentialy hire – if he’s willing to take the OC role knowing that Chan is going to be formulating scheme and calling plays then I think that could work to our advantage – imagine if we could get a QB?!? – we might actually have an offense next year
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by J2 on Jan 22, 2010 9:11 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
This would be great.
Thinking about it, and reading these posts, there’s hard to find anything but upside if they made this hire. Dan Reeves as an assistant … Not bad.
One thing I can say I feel confident about with Chan Gailey’s hire:
THERE WILL BE OFFENSE.
by LosBillesdeBuffalo on Jan 22, 2010 9:27 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
BILLS FANS
If the Bills HO had it on good knowledge that Tebow would slide to the 2nd round… What would you think about drafting a blindside OL with our first pick, and then drafting Tebow with our second rounder?
We could run a hybrid wildcat with Tebow at HB/TE, while picking up a semi-proven QB on the FA market or through trade (Volek/Anderson/Orton – the particular QB does really matter to this question…) With Jackson, Lynch and Tebow as a triple threat, I think this could work
So I ask you fellow Bills fans… Is this something you would be interested in?
by LosBillesdeBuffalo on Jan 22, 2010 9:34 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
What We Have Here...
Is the new version of “The Over The Hill Gang” nothing wrong with that!!! Bring it ON you young whipper snappers—-we’ll still kick your A#*!!
As Wyatt Earp once said "You tell 'em I'm coming! And Hell's coming with me you hear! Hell's coming with me! ~
by Goose22 on Jan 22, 2010 10:13 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
Folks....
a lot of teams in this league would be glad to pay Reeves simply as an adviser!!!! The possibility of adding him to our staff as Assistant HC ?? or any other capacity for about that same price would not only be good for our team, but destroys the “theory” being thrown around that no one wants to coach in Buffalo…
Heck, Gailey and Reeves combine for prolly more experience than most teams entire staff!!!
As for me… I’ll take that experience!!!!
by Cinga on Jan 22, 2010 10:41 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
Old Age
I’m so tired hearing comments lamenting the new hires ages. With age comes experience, why is that a problem? I’m no spring chicken but I can tell you I still feel like I did when I was much younger. Unless these guy’s are strapping on pads and attempting to play their age has no negative impact. There ages if anything should be considered a bonus. That’s assuming they have no mental issues to impede them.Leave the senior citizens alone! They could teach you a thing or two.
by buffalobacker on Jan 22, 2010 10:46 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
All "Old Timer" Bills Fans.. Time to check in!!!!
Cinga——51
by Cinga on Jan 22, 2010 10:54 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Count me In..
Goose—54
As Wyatt Earp once said "You tell 'em I'm coming! And Hell's coming with me you hear! Hell's coming with me! ~
by Goose22 on Jan 22, 2010 10:57 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I might not qualify for really old timer, but...
Blitz———44
A very wise supervisor once told me, “Experience beats everything”. The older I get, the more I understand what he was saying.
Get the Bills back to the big game!
by Blitz on Jan 22, 2010 11:05 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
This team has written the book on the experience of losing year after year..........
Yeah, I just stare at my desk, but it looks like I'm working. I do that for probably another hour after lunch too, I'd say in a given week I probably only do about fifteen minutes of real, actual, work. - Peter Gibbons
by norcaliangelsfan on Jan 22, 2010 11:06 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
For the last 10 years, yes...
I thought the ’90’s went pretty well with Marv, though.
Just curious, how old is Belichick?
Get the Bills back to the big game!
by Blitz on Jan 22, 2010 11:11 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
What?
Can you say that again? I don’t hear so good no more.
:-)
Sad….. but true.
"A failure becomes just one time at bat if you refuse to let it defeat you." Marv Levy.
by SERGEANT MAJOR THOR on Jan 22, 2010 7:04 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
yeah the Senior Citizens have taught us alot in the last 10 years............
so lets keep on that trend…………….
Yeah, I just stare at my desk, but it looks like I'm working. I do that for probably another hour after lunch too, I'd say in a given week I probably only do about fifteen minutes of real, actual, work. - Peter Gibbons
by norcaliangelsfan on Jan 22, 2010 11:04 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Haa
Don’t you know that 58 is now the new 48… What do you consider senior citizens?
Bill Cowher—-52
Mike Shanahan—57
Rex Ryan—-47
As Wyatt Earp once said "You tell 'em I'm coming! And Hell's coming with me you hear! Hell's coming with me! ~
by Goose22 on Jan 22, 2010 11:15 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I hope that most of the "old people" talk is meant in good fun.....at least that is the way I take it...and dish it out :-)
"Do you even hear how totally bat sh!t insane you sound?" - Archer
by Joe P. on Jan 22, 2010 11:46 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
in NFL terms senior citzens are folks that are over 55 IMO.....
whens the last time a coach over 55 won a SB?
Yeah, I just stare at my desk, but it looks like I'm working. I do that for probably another hour after lunch too, I'd say in a given week I probably only do about fifteen minutes of real, actual, work. - Peter Gibbons
by norcaliangelsfan on Jan 22, 2010 4:12 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
well I answered my own question with a fanpost I created.....
3 coaches have won SB after the age of 55……………in the last 20 years.
Yeah, I just stare at my desk, but it looks like I'm working. I do that for probably another hour after lunch too, I'd say in a given week I probably only do about fifteen minutes of real, actual, work. - Peter Gibbons
by norcaliangelsfan on Jan 22, 2010 5:00 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Taught Us?
I sense a little animosity towards a entire age group. Attention all senior citizens your all responsible for the failure of a NFL team .
by buffalobacker on Jan 24, 2010 2:10 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I swear this team is trying to push me away................
why do we keep trying to get older.
Yeah, I just stare at my desk, but it looks like I'm working. I do that for probably another hour after lunch too, I'd say in a given week I probably only do about fifteen minutes of real, actual, work. - Peter Gibbons
by norcaliangelsfan on Jan 22, 2010 10:47 AM EST reply actions 1 recs
don't sweat the little stuff
Young or old coaching staff I think they’ll play better. Can’t get much worse. Besides they need to hire more asst. Right?
by buffalobacker on Jan 24, 2010 2:03 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
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