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It seems [former Patriots Defensive Coordinator Dean] Pees is in the mix for the DC spot in Buffalo, one that is still vacant. Maybe Pees is why new coach Chan Gailey said he is open to the 3-4 look.

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I'd offer an opinion

but I have no idea who Dean Pees is!

If he’s under 55 years old, I support his hiring……

by StroudFanClub on Jan 23, 2010 12:56 PM EST reply actions  

Silly

Why is age so important? Are you saying the older you are the less effective a leader you are? I just don’t get your push for a young coach over a older person. Leadership, Mgmt skills and talent evaluation and a good plan what the heck does age have to do with that. Unless your planning on marrying the guy how does age have anything to do with his job!

by buffalobacker on Jan 23, 2010 1:29 PM EST up reply actions  

Well, just as I wouldn't want a staff of all young coaches (ideally)

I also don’t want a staff of all older coacher. It’s not even about ripping on how old our owner, GM and head coach are at this point, how about getting people from different age groups for their different views and experiences?

So yes, at this point, all other things about two coaches being equal, I would rather they pick the young coach over the old coach, if for just the sake of diversity of the coaching staff.

by StroudFanClub on Jan 23, 2010 1:46 PM EST up reply actions  

Relate?

What’s your definition of relate. In relation to player & coach inter action how they relate has nothing to do with age as much as it has to do personalities. The NFL is about winning no one cares if they can relate! I relate to people not there age!!!

by buffalobacker on Jan 23, 2010 2:49 PM EST up reply actions  

Dick Jauron may have related better to the players than any coach the Bills have had. That worked out well, didn’t it? I think the coach needs to establish a hierarchy where the players respect him, but don’t think of them as their “friend,” necessarily.

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by TheAfghanTwilight on Jan 23, 2010 3:12 PM EST up reply actions  

his players liked him. that doesn't mean he related to them well.

a coach who relates to his players knows how to interact with his players in order to get them to perform at the top of their ability. Jauron didn’t do that. Just because his players liked him doesn’t mean he related to them well.

...so I guess now I root for chan gailey...

by JPH on Jan 23, 2010 7:44 PM EST up reply actions  

only reliable ways to motivate

Reward, cohersion, threaten, again how does relating to a player motivate them in your opinion?

by buffalobacker on Jan 23, 2010 8:04 PM EST up reply actions  

Chan ain't that old...

People have been gettin’ on Chan for being old. I’m pretty sure he’s less than a year older than Mike Shannahan….. who people were pretty high on a little while ago. I get the Ralph and Buddy being old thing – but Chan? Chan’s the man. Give him a chance.

by lucky#13 on Jan 23, 2010 5:57 PM EST up reply actions  

Or don't you want some younger coordinators that can learn under Gailey and Nix

and then ideally be groomed to be head coach after they leave? Isn’t that what “good” teams do? Develop young talent for succession plans?

I guess I can answer my own question…..Ralph obviously doesn’t believe in succession plans!

by StroudFanClub on Jan 23, 2010 1:54 PM EST up reply actions  

sucessful coordinators

That’s all I want. I could care less what age they are. And yes any successful organization is going to be grooming someone to replace them but someones age has nothing to do with that. every person brings different views and experiences what the heck does age have to do with that? I have old and new idea’s what’s that make me? Can you tell my age because of my views?The only place in organization that age means anything is the players. Period.

by buffalobacker on Jan 23, 2010 2:11 PM EST up reply actions  

Pees coached at several different colleges for a long time serving as HC in Kent State and DC at Michigan State, Miami of Ohio, and Toledo. For the last few years he has been a defensive assistant in New England and DC since 2006 when Romeo left.

by MattRichWarren on Jan 23, 2010 1:10 PM EST up reply actions  

Though it Pained me terribly...

I went to the Pats official site to get this….

Dean Pees, a 37-year coaching veteran, was named the defensive coordinator on Bill Belichick’s staff on January 17, 2006. Pees served as the Patriots’ linebackers coach from 2004-05 and his coaching credentials include six seasons as a collegiate head coach and 15 seasons as a defensive coordinator at the college level. Pees joined Belichick’s staff prior to the 2004 season after a tenure as the head coach at Kent State.

The Patriots have averaged less than 20 points per game allowed in every season that Pees has been defensive coordinator. In 2008, the Patriots allowed 19.3 points per game and achieved an 11-5 record despite using 22 different starters on defense, including four rookies. Pees’ 2008 defense ranked second in the NFL in forced threeand- out percentage (30.6) and helped give the offense the second best average starting field position in the NFL.
For the rest… do it yourselves… I gotta go scrub down!!!!!

http://www.patriots.com/team/index.cfm?ac=playerbio&bio=28099

by Cinga on Jan 23, 2010 1:26 PM EST up reply actions  

Well if we’re going to steel from the Pats, this isn’t a bad choice by the looks of it.

by CanadianBillsFan on Jan 23, 2010 2:08 PM EST up reply actions  

How dare he!

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by UZ on Jan 24, 2010 3:55 AM EST up reply actions  

If we’re gonna go the senior route I’ll take Jim Bates over Dan Pees.

by CanadianBillsFan on Jan 23, 2010 1:10 PM EST reply actions  

Not sure I agree

Aside from the fact we could call him Master Bates, there isn’t much else I like about this defensive philosophy. The small, quick LBs need to go.

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by Joe P. on Jan 23, 2010 1:15 PM EST up reply actions  

Actually I said that before doing my research (aka reading Cinga’s research above). After a second glance and actualy reasearch (wiki) he’s not a bad choice at all.

by CanadianBillsFan on Jan 23, 2010 2:10 PM EST up reply actions  

agreed

and since the Pats ran a base 3-4 with 4-3 looks, he should be able to help our transition to the 3-4 while getting the most out of our 4-3 personnel.

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by Joe P. on Jan 23, 2010 2:13 PM EST up reply actions  

Thats what I was thinking too. Heck maybe he could also help get a few Pats players over here. Although their deffence is in shambles and anyone that would come over (save for Wilfork) wouldn’t be much help at all.

by CanadianBillsFan on Jan 23, 2010 2:34 PM EST up reply actions  

I'd take Mayo!

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by UZ on Jan 24, 2010 3:55 AM EST up reply actions  

As long as its not Jim Bates

and his undersized, “speedy” LB’s….

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by Kurupt on Jan 23, 2010 1:14 PM EST reply actions  

I like Jim Bates for a couple reasons: Jason Taylor and the 4-3.

by MattRichWarren on Jan 23, 2010 1:20 PM EST up reply actions  

Doesn't Tayor play LB?

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by Joe P. on Jan 23, 2010 1:21 PM EST up reply actions  

???

What does Taylor have to do with the Bills? They don’t have a Hall of Famer that can fulfill a similar role to Taylor’s with Bates’ Dolphins defenses. Don’t you think Taylor would have been successful in pretty much any scheme since he was, ya know, pretty darn awesome?

Why are you so high on the 4-3?

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by Kurupt on Jan 23, 2010 1:22 PM EST up reply actions  

I’m not high on the 4-3 or the 3-4. I just look at our roster and see how far it is from the 3-4 and the young, somewhat talented players we do have would be so awful in the 3-4. That and since the majority of teams in the NFL run the 3-4 it’s harder and harder to find good players for it.

Jason Taylor and Aaron Maybin have similar builds. If Bates can turn Maybin into half of Taylor we’ve got something.

by MattRichWarren on Jan 23, 2010 1:28 PM EST up reply actions  

4-3 vs 3-4

We need help either way. If Gailey and whoever want to transition over to a 3-4, so be it. I just don’t want them sticking with a 4-3 simply because they have a few solid players that wouldn’t fit a 3-4 scheme. It’s not like we have Pro Bowlers that we can’t afford to risk a switch where they wouldn’t fit. We have a bunch of mediocre and a few pretty good players. I really hope that doesn’t hold back a change.

Seems to me we’ve had plenty of trouble finding quality players to run our 4-3 for years now. DE’s and LB’s and DT’s……

Jarvis Moss has pretty much the same build as Taylor. Bates couldn’t do anything with him. What makes you think he’d be turning Maybin into Taylor then?

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by Kurupt on Jan 23, 2010 1:44 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

We need help either way.

I agree with that. But Poz, Kyle Williams, Stroud, Schobel, Kelsay, and Denney don’t necessarily need to be replaced as they would in a 3-4.

It’s not like we have Pro Bowlers that we can’t afford to risk a switch where they wouldn’t fit.

Well wouldn’t Schobel and Kylie Williams qualify?

Jarvis Moss has pretty much the same build as Taylor. Bates couldn’t do anything with him. What makes you think he’d be turning Maybin into Taylor then?

Pure, unadulterated hope. Every player is different, obviously.

by MattRichWarren on Jan 23, 2010 1:47 PM EST up reply actions  

Why not?
But Poz, Kyle Williams, Stroud, Schobel, Kelsay, and Denney don’t necessarily need to be replaced as they would in a 3-4.

They need to be replaced a year or two regardless of scheme anyhow. Potentially Poz, too.

Well wouldn’t Schobel and Kylie Williams qualify?

Schobel’s in the Pro Bowl? Williams is in the Pro Bowl? Schobel has a year left here, tops, anyhow.

~K
"As the governor of Louisiana once said, the only way Chris Kelsay can lose his job is if he got caught in bed with a dead girl or a live boy."

by Kurupt on Jan 23, 2010 2:14 PM EST up reply actions  

Schobel has a year left here, tops

I’m actually hoping that we trade Schobel before this year’s draft, regardless of what scheme we run. The man wants out and at this point where the team is, I think a 3rd rounder would be more valuable to us.

by CanadianBillsFan on Jan 23, 2010 2:36 PM EST up reply actions  

Not to mention that it would allow a guy who has played hard a chance to finally get a whiff of the playoffs.

It can always get worse. Let me tell you how.

by Ron From NM on Jan 23, 2010 3:24 PM EST up reply actions  

Well thats why I think that that if he asks to be trade we have no right to say no. He’s played so well and so hard for us all these years and has been nothing but class.

I think that we should trade him to any contender that offers us something decent (preferably a 3rd). I honestly think that the team owes him that much.

by CanadianBillsFan on Jan 23, 2010 3:55 PM EST up reply actions  

Williams is a Pro Bowl alternate. I’d put money on Schobel being invited if the Colts make it and Freeney and Mathis are both out.

by MattRichWarren on Jan 23, 2010 3:39 PM EST up reply actions  

Me too. Schobel had a great year and is up there in league numbers for a DE.

by CanadianBillsFan on Jan 23, 2010 3:55 PM EST up reply actions  

Schobel probably won't be unless a lot of guys decline....

He’s not an alternate, at least that we’re aware of.

Shaun Ellis and Richard Seymour are DE alternates. It might not matter if the Jets somehow pull this out.

~K
"As the governor of Louisiana once said, the only way Chris Kelsay can lose his job is if he got caught in bed with a dead girl or a live boy."

by Kurupt on Jan 24, 2010 4:02 PM EST up reply actions  

Really? Richard Seymour? He had four sacks this year and 31 tackles. If he was invited over Schobel that is a serious POS pick.

by MattRichWarren on Jan 24, 2010 8:10 PM EST up reply actions  

Rec’d K’s post. Spot on. The fact that people are so married to certain players on this craptastic, mediocre defense is funny. You’d think with the way people defend and want to keep some of these players they were like key members of the 85 Bears or 00 Ravens.

by sabre74kkn on Jan 23, 2010 11:44 PM EST up reply actions  

That’s not what I’m saying at all. I’m saying if we switch to a 3-4 we are literally starting over from scratch on the defensive front 7. It will take at least 3 years before we see a good defense and that’s if the Bills can identify and acquire a stud NT which are becoming increasingly hard to find. I think I’m gonna have to do a whole post so people can slam my opinion there.

by MattRichWarren on Jan 24, 2010 9:43 AM EST up reply actions  

What's wrong with starting from scratch?

I’m sick of watching this team try to patch holes with mediocre players instead of going for a full blown rebuilding job.

As I said, Schobel’s gone by next year anyhow, barring a major change of heart.

We basically need to rebuild the front 7 anyhow. This franchise shouldn’t worry about running a scheme that Williams can fit into. They should run whatever one the staff is comfortable with and they feel they can acquire players for. If it’s the 4-3 or 3-4, it doesn’t really matter to me. I just don’t want them half-assing it again.

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"As the governor of Louisiana once said, the only way Chris Kelsay can lose his job is if he got caught in bed with a dead girl or a live boy."

by Kurupt on Jan 24, 2010 4:07 PM EST up reply actions  

I’m sick of watching this team try to patch holes with mediocre players instead of going for a full blown rebuilding job.

By why throw the baby out with the bathwater? Some guys on the roster have shown a propensity to being good to great players. Let’s just get rid of them so we can rebuild? It’s not like Poz or Williams are old.

They shouldn’t determine the scheme based on one guy but you look at the roster and there are so few players that could transition it’d be three drafts before the Bills’ 3-4 could even be serviceable.

I agree that the 3-4 or 4-3 doesn’t matter. I’m just saying that the way the roster is now it will be a major rebuild and a complete revamp of the entire front 7. I’d rather see a reload with a new OLB, new DE, and a few other pieces here and there.

by MattRichWarren on Jan 24, 2010 8:12 PM EST up reply actions  

Let’s just get rid of them so we can rebuild?

That’s not what I’m saying.

I’m saying that players like Poz and Williams shouldn’t be the reason the new staff doesn’t go with a 3-4. If they want to install a 3-4, great. If they don’t, great. I just don’t want them sticking with a 4-3 simply because we have a couple of decent players who only fit in that scheme.

It’s probably a major rebuild as it is….

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by Kurupt on Jan 25, 2010 1:16 AM EST up reply actions  

Not true

the majority of teams in the NFL run the 3-4 it’s harder and harder to find good players for it.

There were 13 teams which ran a version of the 3-4 defense last season: Ravens, Browns, Steelers, Patriots, Jets, Dolphins, Chargers, Chiefs, Broncos, Packers, Cowboys, Cardinals, and 49ers. Maybe it felt like there were more since of the 13 teams, 9 of them are in the AFC and of course all three divisional opponents used the 3-4.

by karovda on Jan 23, 2010 3:18 PM EST up reply actions  

The problem comes with finding a nose tackle. The Chiefs used Bills castoff Ron Edwards and out-of-football-for-six-years Kenny Smith this season. There is a shortage of those big fatties to play NT and since it’s the most important position in a 3-4 I would rather be able to find a guy that could handle it. If we were able to sign Vince Wilfork I’d be all about it. Until that happens I’d prefer to stay in the 4-3 for personnel (not personal) reasons only.

by MattRichWarren on Jan 23, 2010 3:42 PM EST up reply actions  

Bills practice squad

I haven’t seen anyone comment on the first 3 signings of the Buddy Nix era, which were 3 fat guys Nix stocked away on the practice squad after he got here last year. Not sure if any of them have sufficient talent, but it seems like a start toward 3-4 yet.

by williamsDT on Jan 24, 2010 8:40 AM EST up reply actions  

Geez

Everyone concerned about age should be thrilled to hire this guy 37. Why even bother with his resume!!

by buffalobacker on Jan 23, 2010 1:35 PM EST reply actions  

That's not his age....

That’s his years experience. Dudes 60 years old.

Why do today, when it can wait til tomorrow; the games on!

by UtahBillsFan on Jan 23, 2010 2:51 PM EST up reply actions  

Well, he’s qualified. Apparently, all it takes to work in Buffalo is a name that’ll get you ridiculed in high school (Buddy, Chan Gailey, Dean Pees).

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by Brian Galliford on Jan 23, 2010 1:37 PM EST reply actions   2 recs

haha

I have no idea if there’s one available but there’s gotta be a guy named “Rusty” to fill out the staff

by S2 on Jan 23, 2010 1:47 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

Rusty Jones

our old Strength and conditioning coach, before the Allaire failure…

by Cinga on Jan 23, 2010 1:59 PM EST up reply actions  

Dammit, you made me choke on my pepsi from laughing so hard.

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by UZ on Jan 24, 2010 3:58 AM EST up reply actions  

Brian

What’s your opinion about Dean as a possible DC in Buffalo? Good, bad or indifferent?

by buffalobacker on Jan 23, 2010 1:46 PM EST up reply actions  

LOL! Rec’d… or as the kids are saying “Recoceros”.

by MattRichWarren on Jan 23, 2010 1:48 PM EST up reply actions  

I'll bite

Recocero’s spanish for what?

by buffalobacker on Jan 23, 2010 1:51 PM EST up reply actions  

Everyone keeps using Recopotamus so I went the other big animal… if it’s Spanish for something it was an accident.

by MattRichWarren on Jan 23, 2010 3:43 PM EST up reply actions  

Don’t forget Dick!

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by TheAfghanTwilight on Jan 23, 2010 3:15 PM EST up reply actions  

You forgot Dick as well

"Fan ?" You want to talk about being a fan of the Bills ? Try getting up at 3 AM every Monday to watch their games knowing they'll likely lose. Do this for 18 years and then call yourself a "fan"

by Will G on Jan 23, 2010 3:43 PM EST up reply actions  

i think we’re all trying to forget Dick

by NotReadytoRock on Jan 23, 2010 6:06 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

Im not seein us far from 3-4 Maybin moves to linebacker. He will never be DE in this lg. We find or draft a 350 lb NT are secondary is fine. oh and for all you age matters weirdos. gimmie a break

by shawn patrick on Jan 23, 2010 1:42 PM EST reply actions  

Brian I think Dean would be a great choice as are fellow bills fan pointed out he is damn good.and with the age of our headcoach maybe we would be hiring his succssesor early. i see lots of positives in Dean

by shawn patrick on Jan 23, 2010 1:53 PM EST reply actions  

huh?
and with the age of our headcoach maybe we would be hiring his succssesor early

he’s 3 years older than Gailey.

most of my posts get deleted :(

by dzil on Jan 23, 2010 6:59 PM EST up reply actions  

my bad

i thiught he was younger i gotta quit drinkin

by shawn patrick on Jan 23, 2010 11:14 PM EST up reply actions  

Dean FOR DC

Stroud i think were on the same page read your comment after i posted. I agree with you on the grooming

by shawn patrick on Jan 23, 2010 1:57 PM EST reply actions  

Solid choice. Better than Bates imo., but again let’s see what happens.

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by BillsfanfromDenmark on Jan 23, 2010 2:21 PM EST reply actions  

i agree bills fan and may i say nice to have bills fans in denmark

by shawn patrick on Jan 23, 2010 2:26 PM EST reply actions  

Thx mate, but really I live in Canada (I’m half Danish, half-Canadian).

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by BillsfanfromDenmark on Jan 23, 2010 3:44 PM EST up reply actions  

2 great countrys nice to meet you

by shawn patrick on Jan 23, 2010 11:15 PM EST up reply actions  

Didn’t he have a health condition that forced him out of NE? I could very well be wrong but I think I heard something about that on weei.

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by dragonwag0n on Jan 23, 2010 2:33 PM EST via mobile reply actions  

what?

He’s to young to have health issues!!! sarcasm…..

by buffalobacker on Jan 23, 2010 2:51 PM EST up reply actions  

That was the reason he “resigned”. Some reports say he was fired.

by MattRichWarren on Jan 23, 2010 3:43 PM EST up reply actions  

Pees

Dean’s contract was not renewed. To me that’s a nice way of saying your fired. Why is this guy considered so good? Isn’t Belichick his own DC anyway?

by Moose68 on Jan 24, 2010 11:51 AM EST up reply actions  

any successful DC

is welcome in my opinion. regardless of age.

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by silverstreak3k on Jan 23, 2010 2:37 PM EST reply actions  

PFT is reporting that Pees isn’t taking the Denver DC job because he “has something else lined up.” I’m not sure why the DC job in Buffalo would be preferable to the DC job in Denver. Pees would arguably have more to work with in Denver than in Buffalo. Denver is certainly in a weaker division than Buffalo and the ownership situation is more stable in Colorado. Still, if Pees doesn’t like McDaniels maybe he’d look past all of that and move to Buffalo.

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by Ron From NM on Jan 23, 2010 3:28 PM EST reply actions  

or maybe he just wants to stick it to the Pats for firing him?

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by Joe P. on Jan 23, 2010 3:30 PM EST up reply actions  

I would be happy with Pees.

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by BillsfanfromDenmark on Jan 23, 2010 3:45 PM EST up reply actions  

Eh, I prefer broccoli

(ouch, that was terrible….)

by StroudFanClub on Jan 23, 2010 3:54 PM EST up reply actions   2 recs

haha yep it was.

but in a good way. :-)

...so I guess now I root for chan gailey...

by JPH on Jan 23, 2010 7:49 PM EST up reply actions  

CARLOS!!

(I’m the only one here young enough to understand that reference, I’m guessing.)

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by UZ on Jan 24, 2010 4:00 AM EST up reply actions  

I think that he'd pick us over Denver for 2 reasons.

1. As Chan said, the DC in Buffalo will have TOTAL control of all thing deffensive. That means no one is checking in on him, second guessing his decisions or even overruling him. He’d be in TOTAL control here, and that would be attractive to many coaches.
2. He’d get a chance to play against the team that made him out to be the scape goat. That would have to be a good feeling.

by CanadianBillsFan on Jan 23, 2010 3:58 PM EST up reply actions  

Scapegoat

Good point. Pats defensive trouble in 2009 due to:

Choice A: Dean Pees, who has been with the team for a while.

Choice B: Trading richard Seymour, trading Mike Vrabel, and Tedy Bruschi’s retirement.

Pees would be a fine choice.

by Der Jaeger on Jan 23, 2010 6:10 PM EST up reply actions  

You can add in that Rodney Harrison is gone. Jerod Mayo, Vince Wilfork, Ty Warren and Jarvis Green all missed some games due to injury. Adalius Thomas is 32 years old and slipping. Derrick Burgess wasn’t a good addition. And they kind of switched over to a 4-3 and ran something of a hybrid scheme.

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by kaisertown on Jan 23, 2010 6:43 PM EST up reply actions  

Agree

That’s why Pees wouldn’t be a bad choice.

by Der Jaeger on Jan 23, 2010 8:27 PM EST up reply actions  

Did Chan say that?

Not doubting you CBF, did Chan really say that about the DC position/Coach. The Total control thing?

Is it really average talent or just poor coaching, how important is depth and experience.

by VanScottM on Jan 23, 2010 8:10 PM EST up reply actions  

He said that the DC he hired would have total control over the direction of the D. I hope that it means that he’s giving total control of the D to the coordinator. It can be interpreted in many different ways I guess.

by CanadianBillsFan on Jan 23, 2010 10:16 PM EST up reply actions  

Pees

His D was not good this year and surely he had more to work with than our current “stable of stallions” For some reason this does not leave me inspired. Then again the Fewell hire did not either. I miss Jerry Grays D’s – they were mean on yardage.

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by Will G on Jan 23, 2010 3:45 PM EST reply actions  

Pees had linebacker issues this year. The Pats had a lot of LB injuries and you pretty much need a stable of good (and healthy) LBs to run a 3-4. That’s the main reason that Buffalo would have a hard time switching to the 3-4: Poz and Mitchell could play 3-4 but no other LBs on the roster are even fit to be backups in that scheme.

It can always get worse. Let me tell you how.

by Ron From NM on Jan 23, 2010 3:50 PM EST up reply actions  

You’re right. Poz and Kawika are solid ILB’s, as both of them aren’t exactly mind-boggling athletes and both are stout against the run. Of course, if we do move to the 3-4, we’d better hope we get one terrific LB’s coach, because he would have to make Aaron Maybin his new project, as Maybin would be a key for this to work.
I’ve stated a few times that while I think Maybin’s natural position is as a DE, he has the athleticism and toughness to play OLB in a 3-4. We’ll see what happens..

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by BillsfanfromDenmark on Jan 23, 2010 5:30 PM EST up reply actions  

but no other LBs on the roster are even fit to be backups in that scheme.

only 1 of the LB’s on our roster is fit to be a backup in the 4-3. Who besides Ellison?

...so I guess now I root for chan gailey...

by JPH on Jan 23, 2010 7:51 PM EST up reply actions  

to follow up

If “we have keith ellison” is the reason for not switching schemes…heck, switch schemes!

...so I guess now I root for chan gailey...

by JPH on Jan 23, 2010 7:52 PM EST up reply actions  

That plus that whole “Nobody on the D-Line is suited to a 3-4” thing.

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by UZ on Jan 24, 2010 4:01 AM EST up reply actions  

kyle williams is a 3-4 DE, schobel could be too. Kelsay and Denney are hardly suited to be 4-3 DE’s either….

...so I guess now I root for chan gailey...

by JPH on Jan 24, 2010 6:00 PM EST up reply actions  

Schobel could not be a 3-4 DE unless he added 40 lbs

Williams isn’t ideal there either.

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by Kurupt on Jan 24, 2010 6:01 PM EST up reply actions  

jeez i thought he was 270-275

he’s 240…what was i thinking.

...so I guess now I root for chan gailey...

by JPH on Jan 24, 2010 6:28 PM EST up reply actions  

i said earlier I think Maybin could play OLB in the 3-4 Hes not gonna be A DE. I think he would be great blitz pkg 3rd down

by shawn patrick on Jan 23, 2010 11:19 PM EST up reply actions  

And soft on points…

Really the only reason Jerry Gray’s D was often among the league leaders in yards is a certain behemoth now in the purple and gold.

by Leo Crow on Jan 24, 2010 1:06 AM EST up reply actions  

Yep

Agree with you Ron. As I said, he had more to work with there and still had poor results. Also, it should be pointed out that none of our other LB’s are fit to be backups in ANY scheme. Re a 3-4 there’s also the Nose Tackle thing holding us back too :) You’d need to target someone like Cody early in the 2nd or trade up late first to get him. Or trade down a couple of times ala Browns last year.

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by Will G on Jan 23, 2010 3:57 PM EST reply actions  

Yeha but he had fantastic results every year hewas there before this season.

I also suspect that the Pats deffensive woes also had something to do with Belicheat’s mingling. And the fact that they couldn’t make up their mind if they were running a 4-3 or a 3-4.

Pees is not a bad coach, he was just the Pats’ scape goat in order for Belicheat to save face.

by CanadianBillsFan on Jan 23, 2010 4:07 PM EST up reply actions  

Not Bad

I never said he was a bad coach – I don’t think he is. I just don’t think he’s all that great either. Middle of the road – I suppose he’ll fit right in Buffalo then :(

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by Will G on Jan 23, 2010 4:12 PM EST up reply actions  

I thik you hit the nail on the head there. Damit.

by CanadianBillsFan on Jan 23, 2010 4:33 PM EST up reply actions  

Dean Pees not DC for Buffalo?

According to PFT Pees is in line for a DC gig, as everyone knows, but it has not been announced as of yet because he will be replacing a DC. Considering the Bills don’t have a DC it seems unlikely that it will be with the Bills.

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2010/01/23/mystery-persists-regarding-pees-landing-spot/

by Hassanali181 on Jan 23, 2010 6:21 PM EST reply actions  

This story is changing by the minute.

I hope that we are the team hiring Pees. I would like nothing more that to beat NE and bellicheat at his own game with some good insider knowledge. We could use some interdivision advantage IMO.

I think Pees would be good in Buffalo

by dabillsr1 on Jan 23, 2010 6:35 PM EST up reply actions  

I second that, Hope we can land him as well

by Hassanali181 on Jan 23, 2010 7:04 PM EST up reply actions  

I think that he’d be good too, but he’s not my first choice.

by CanadianBillsFan on Jan 23, 2010 7:10 PM EST up reply actions  

lol, I knew this question was going to pop up.

Not sure yet, but Pees wasn’t it. Although I’m not opposed to him either.

by CanadianBillsFan on Jan 23, 2010 10:17 PM EST up reply actions  

Does that leave you Peesed off ?

Lame I know, but it had to be said.

"Fan ?" You want to talk about being a fan of the Bills ? Try getting up at 3 AM every Monday to watch their games knowing they'll likely lose. Do this for 18 years and then call yourself a "fan"

by Will G on Jan 24, 2010 3:27 AM EST up reply actions  

Ok apparently putting one of these * at the start and at the end of a word makes it turn out in bold. Therefore fuining my joke.

by CanadianBillsFan on Jan 24, 2010 8:34 AM EST up reply actions  

We won't get Pees, (and end up with carrots)

My guess is Pees will end up in Minnesota replacing the soon to be departed (and new coach of the Raiders) Leslie Frazier. Which was part of the reason we couldn’t land Frazier and why Cable is being strung along by Al Davis. (Shhhh. Don’t tell Cable.)

We will end up with Jim Bates (an age appropriate 63) whose greatest claim to fame is having a hand in developing Zach Thomas and Jason Taylor, in addition of being the Dolphins interim coach (after Wannstedt resigned.) It seems everywhere he went he wasn’t in 100% control of the Defense because he was saddled with a Defensive minded head coach. I’m not thrilled (especially for lack of a better coaching history), but he seems to fit the mold of teacher which is what Gailey is looking for. (And since he’s been around the league he should know some assistants who would like to join him.)

If he can turn Maybin into Jason Taylor I’ll offer him up for Sainthood.

by Moose68 on Jan 24, 2010 2:07 AM EST reply actions   1 recs

Makes to much sense not to happen.....so it probably won't.....rec'd

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by Joe P. on Jan 24, 2010 8:39 AM EST up reply actions  

Any more news on this front?

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by Patssuck456 on Jan 24, 2010 7:02 PM EST reply actions  

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