why tim tebow would be a great pick for the bills

this was supposed to be the thread to talk about tebow. so rec it if you want it to stay active for awhile. that way we dont have to have tebow debates in almost every post by brian.

Your beloved TIebow will be a first round pick, just not to the Bills at #9 and too late for #41. He’s going somewhere else. Nice argument though.

sure he was a polarizing figure in college sports with his religious and political beliefs, but i cant understand how that would allow people the mindset of not wanting him on their team.

Tebow is outspoken about Religion and politics and you can’t understand why people hate on him?

If Nix is sure Gailey can fix Tebow, I don’t care if the Bills take him at #9, but it would be a huge gamble. When a coach busts on a first round pick at QB, it is usually the death of them.

Not sure about your timing. I mean we have the senior bowl this weekend, then we have some combine and personal workouts coming. Hopefully you’ll get enough rec to string it along. If not, the Tim Tebow conversation won’t go away anytime soon. I know your a fan of Tebow and I am not. It wouldn’t exactly break my heart if Tim Tebow became a Bill it’s just a matter of when. Many have QB as a top priority in this draft and with the depth at OT being as good if not better than last year it could very well happen this year. This may be the year to grab one in the first round. The thing I argue against is the fact that we need Linebackers in a bad way also. Then if Schobel retires or gets traded, then our need at DE increases. I am banking on Buddy to hit homeruns in this draft, with players that and I quote “Players that are no longer rookies by week eight”. This is why I can’t see it happening for us, unless he is available in round 4 and after.

and I was against picking him at 9……but now I’ve changed my stance……..if the Bills want him…….they have to get him at 9……..

They probably wont……..but if the Bills drafted Tebow…….it would make me a lot less cynical for the next few years……………but because I say that……they wont do it.

Tebow 6’2 3/4" 236 lbs…..10in hands….30 3/4" arm length.

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interesting tidbits about tebow.

just not at 9. I wouldn’t mind if we made a trade to get him later in the 1st round or get him in the 2nd round at 41.

I’m thinking that the Pats pick him in the first or maybe even the Jags is a HUGE stretch and marketing move. Either way I think he’s gone cby the second round. And he would be too large of a stretch/risk for us to take at #9.

With his athleticism, Tebow would be a great pick for the Bills. He’s a tough QB, good mobility, strong arm, good numbers. And I believe his Christian and political views are nothing but a positive. Look at the thugs in the NFL; time for a fresh start. I tire of the “look at me” chest-thumping, trash talking, narcissism in sports. Nothing better than seeing those types thump their chest on a tackle and get burned for a 50 yard TD on the next play…. :)

Nothing wrong with integrity in a player…… God bless him.

of course we could trade down in the first round and get him around #15 and get a later round pick, maybe a third or forth.

and to some degree with McCoy’s and Bradford’s, you have to look at improvement as well, not just overall numbers.

Clausen put up a 25 TD/17 INT in 2008, and then put up a 28 TD/4 INT this year (which is a 7.0 TD/INT ratio). Progression and improvement by the QB has to factor in somewhat.

I agree with the Tebow pick if he lasts into the second round, but I don’t think that he will. The “it” factor is what does it for me. I mean, could you see a team with Tim Tebow losing as much as we have in the past 10 years? I say no.

Good arguments for Tebow in this post, and I don’t disagree with you on any of the points, I would just rather see Clausen here instead of Tebow, is all.

I think we should see how TT progresses through the week…reportedly he wasn’t too hot. I think he has the “it” factor but you need a little more to be drafted that high.

“McShay reported Tebow muffed three center-quarterback exchanges, displayed awkward footwork and had trouble with his accuracy.

“When you watch a quarterback working from under center, he’s not used to it,” McShay said. "There’s going to be some transition, getting back, reading coverages, getting your feet set at the top of the stem and driving off of that back foot.

“Tim Tebow really struggled with that portion of it, and that really carried over into his accuracy, which was the third problem that Tebow had. He sailed some passes. He short-hopped some passes. Overall, it was an erratic day throwing the football.”

Can we pick QB with 9th pick and still get immediate help at OT in later rounds? We need a immed impact player at OT IMHO. Not sure why we want a QB that will be playing for his life behind are current line. Understand injuries were very crucial in the lines demise but come on we need depth..

“It” is the most important evaluation of a QB coming out of college. Other attributes can be directly seen, graded, and assessed… but it’s the “It” that determines success at the next level. I just graduated from UF last year and have watched every snap Tim Tebow has taken in his career. One thing that surprised was how much longer Tebow held the ball this season than in previous seasons. The talent drop-off from the previous season coupled with a new OC really made Tebow more cautious with the ball (a testament to his maturity to take a sack instead of throwing an INT). It doesn’t mean he was confused and can’t read coverages, it means he was reading them correctly and not making bad throws into coverage. It also means the offense wasn’t running as smoothly because his 1st and 2nd options weren’t getting separation. Tebow would look 1, come off and lock onto to 2, then take a sack or scramble. It’s not easy to find the 3rd and 4th option when you’re not coached to do so. This doesn’t mean he can’t do it… it just means he wasn’t asked to. Urban Meyer’s system is based heavily off of play action and there just weren’t the guys to execute the pure pass plays in the spread. There were many times when Tebow made the anticipation throws into zone windows that Trent Edwards still can’t make (duh, the windows in the NFL are smaller, but it’s the concept). Tebow perfected that offense and ran it as well as anyone could have, with the amount he studies and works at it… it’d be a wise bet to put your money on him doing it in the NFL.

Also, Tebow’s accuracy and timing improved every year… there were some throws he made (particularly the Cincy game) that were flat-out NFL throws. That game shocked me and I’m a Gator fan… I got used to him making a few of those throws every game, but against Cincy he made them ALL.

I honestly wouldn’t care if we drafted Tebow #1 overall… because even if he’s not ready for the NFL right now, you want him on your squad when he gets himself ready… and believe me, he will. He was a pretty successful guy in the toughest conference (especially defensively) college football has to offer.

Tebow is not ready to play QB in the NFL. He needs to work on his footwork, throwing motion, and accuracy. He comes from a spread offense so he doesn’t have experience making the necessary reads and throws that an NFL QB will need to make.

This guy is a project and will need years before he can produce and that’s assuming he is able to make all the proper adjustments. I wouldn’t take him with our first or second round pick and would hesitate to draft him in the third round…

So let me get this right – Tebow could be a good QB if he fixes: His Release, his progression, his field vision and his ability to take a snap from under centre. I might be wrong – but any college QB would make a good pro if they could suddenly learn to do those things. He’s looked awful in Senior Bowl practice this week and botched several snaps. I know I’ll cop a lot of flack for this – but I will be very annoyed if we drafted Tebow in the second.

There is an extremely high chance he does not make it as an NFL QB as a release is very difficult to correct and it usually takes quite some time. Progression is another thing that takes time – so what – we wait 3 years for him to put this together – MAYBE ? Almost everyone on these boards is calling for us to draft guys who can contribute right away – this is a guy who would absolutely not contribute in 2010 or 2011.

I do not dislike Tebow, his college stats are great and he seems like a really good guy (and over here in Australia we don’t get saturated by him) Yeah he seems like a good leader and says all the right things, but you do need NFL TALENT to back that up, and he just does not have it in my eyes. I do not see his release EVER being quick enough for an NFL caliber QB. His running will be almost useless in the NFL – even Vince Young hardly runs any more – it took him NOT running to succeed. Tebow will need to learn to be a pocket passer to succeed – I don’t know that he’ll achieve that , and if he does it will take an awful long time.

Yeah we need a QB, but we need a guy who can play in 2010 or 2011. If we are going to draft a project – and lets be real here Tebow is by very definition a “project” then lets get our project in round 3 or later.

I would much rather see us get Bradford or Clausen in the 1st than Tebow in the 2nd.

Drafting Tebow would be the biggest mistake ever.

He will not make it as a QB without 3-4years developing.

We need help.

At the Senior Bowl he has been awful. Nuff said

As much as I’m not a fan of Tebow, we need to cut the guy some slack. I mean who in their right mind expected him to go out and absolutely flourish under center in a pro-style offense, when he has never played in one before. This is all one big transition period for him and it’ll take some time for him to get a grasp of what this is all about, but when or if he does, he could be a good QB (emphasis on the COULD).

I agree on Tebow, as I don’t consider him a good QB-prospect at all. He’s a terrific college QB, who lacks certain abilities to be a Pro-QB. I’m not a very big fan of LeFevour at all. I think he’s a fifth-sixth round talent, who has a lot of the same issues Tebow has, which includes average arm, bad footwork, underdeveloped mechanics and more importantly is incapable of reading defenses, at least efficiently.
Sam Bradford remains my favorite QB in this draft by far. If we choose (to my great frustration, that is) to go for a QB in the later rounds, Tony Pike would be an intriguing guy to pick, as he has a strong arm, is very intelligent, tough as nails and has considerable upside.

I’ve been looking at the bills web page the past few days and its actually kind of surprising but Chris Brown keeps talking about tim tebow…pretty much every day there is a new post about tebow at the senior bowl…could it be a sign??

I’d let everyone hear about how much I love Tebow. Then I’d be all like OMG someone is gonna take Tebow before we draft. Then I’d trade my 1st,3rd,and 6th rd picks to get the 1st pick in the draft. Then I’d take Suh,and go Bwahahahahahahaha to the rest of the NFL.

If the cards fall just right… and I mean just right, he could be an amazing QB. Not a Manning, but more like a McNabb or a Culpepper, at the VERY best. However, odds are, and I mean like 999,999 out of 1,000,000, he will be invested in heavily by whatever team drafts him, sit for four years and soak up knowledge, and when he gets a chance to play the game will have changed into something totally different than what he was trying to learn. He’s too far behind. He is a man-child yes, but an untrained, unskilled man-child. I would take him no higher than the 6th or 7th round, where long-shot projects and gambles belong (Demetrius Bell). And don’t give stats, stats can be eschewed to show whatever you want to be told. silverstreak3k, I recommend a strict diet of objectivity from now until draft day, then look at strictly passing play footage and tell me that Tebow has any tools other than throw it deep on the run and the bubble screen. And as for YPA, how many of his yards are due to YAC from his thoroughbred recievers? Come on man, F the stats, the footage doesn’t lie, he is unable to consistently make the typical 5-20 yd throws in tight coverage.

Accuracy has nothing to with Comp%. It has to do with ball location and placement. Watch the AFC Champ Game for Manning’s tutorial on accuracy. The ball is always placed where defenders can’t get to it and the reciever can make the catch, coverage or no coverage. That my friend is a QB, and that cannot be taught. Ask McNabb. How long has he been in the NFL and he still over/underthrows consistently, and he was a schooled QB in college. Look at the tape and tell me where Tebow consistently made: timing throws, precision throws in coverage where the DB (with good coverage) was left defenseless and leading throws. Furthermore, show me where he located the throw CONSISTENTLY where the WR did not have to make physical adjustments to make a catch. Add to that the lack of defensive reads, adjustments at the line and/or after the snap, he’s not worth it…, TO US, THE BILLS! Not everyone else, THE BUFFALO BILLS!

As for QBs in this draft, there are none. Bradford is made of glass, I’m just glad we saw it this year before we drafted him. The Redskins Team Doctor is most familiar with him and his specific surgery, if they don’t want him, we better stay away from him like the plague. If he’s fine, the ‘Skins take him at 5 and it’s a moot point.

Clausen, He’d work out great for the Pats’ or any West Coast because of his familiarity with short and intermediate passing routes and defensive reads. Don’t be mistaken, he is the most NFL ready, but his arm isn’t strong enough to overcome his poor decision making and lack of self-doubt. He WILL make a lot of mistakes in the NFL. He will also be a very solid NFL QB if drafted by the right team.

IMO, we need to draft in this order:
Rd1 – LT!!!! what good is a QB if we’ll just make him into Trent the sequel?
Rd2 – LB Our complete lack of good talent and depth here is disgusting.
Rd3 and beyond – OL, LB, DL, WR in that order of importance on a BPA basis. Those 4 areas are about to get extremely thin for us this season and suffer from a severe lack of proven young talent.

Fire away if there’s anyone out there.