Bills to hire Giff Smith as OLB coach
The Buffalo Bills will hire Giff Smith, recruiting coordinator and defensive line coach at Georgia Tech, as their new OLB coach. Anyone care to guess why we're splitting up our linebacker-coaching duties?
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OLB coach?
does this mean we are going to have an ILB coach?
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by norcaliangelsfan on Jan 26, 2010 4:53 PM EST reply actions
i have no idea lol
But I wonder if this means that were gonna go 3-4. Apparently hes a D line coach at Ga Tech. And a lot of 3-4 OLB’s are 4-3 DE’s.
If it does we’re moving to a 3-4.
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by MattRichWarren on Jan 26, 2010 5:08 PM EST up reply actions
Makes a lot of sense and Pat Moran seems to think that we’ve already found our new DC, but again I’m never going to predict anything from OBD, because they’re the profound definition of unpredictable.
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by BillsfanfromDenmark on Jan 26, 2010 5:18 PM EST up reply actions
He also thought that the DC candidate was Jim Bates.
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by MattRichWarren on Jan 26, 2010 5:20 PM EST up reply actions
That’d be a lateral move from Minni, so there’s probably a 0% chance of that.
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by UZ on Jan 27, 2010 2:20 AM EST up reply actions
aint this the truth...........
because they’re the profound definition of unpredictable.
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by norcaliangelsfan on Jan 26, 2010 5:21 PM EST up reply actions
Why
Haven’t they announced that yet then?
by buffalobacker on Jan 26, 2010 5:48 PM EST up reply actions
Because it is much more fun to tell everyone “We got ar mayn. Weh jist kint let the fox outta tha bayg yit. Hold onto yer britches fer awhile. Yer probly not gunna like it anyway!”
by Undee on Jan 26, 2010 5:57 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
i dont have any idea what you just said
but i support your right to say it.
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by silverstreak3k on Jan 26, 2010 7:09 PM EST up reply actions
Translation
- We got ar mayn—We finally found some some poor slob that will take job…that is someone who hasn’t already accepted a position with another team.
- Weh jist kint let the fox outta tha bayg yit— We would like to communicate who it is to the media and fans, but we haven’t actually talked to him about it. In fact, he doesn’t even know that he’s a candidate for the job.
- Hold onto yer britches fer awhile.— We would like to give the other NFL teams a chance to scoop this guy up first. If that happens, then it means that he really didn’t want to come to the Bills in the first place and we don’t want people like that hanging around OBD.
- Yer probly not gunna like it anyway!— Because we like to take our time we may lose out on some very talented coaches, but that’s ok. Ralph would just tell us that they cost too much money anyway. Although the selection sucks, it’s much better to buy off-season…like Christmas lights in February.
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by NJBill on Jan 26, 2010 8:22 PM EST up reply actions 6 recs
ummm
They either view our ILB’s as uncoachable rubbish, or they think Poz is so wonderful theres nothing left for him to learn ? If I was forced to gues I’d say either the first option os a 3-4 D is on the way ? Makes little sense with no D Co-ordinator though. Unless we have our secret D Co lined up.
"Fan ?" You want to talk about being a fan of the Bills ? Try getting up at 3 AM every Monday to watch their games knowing they'll likely lose. Do this for 18 years and then call yourself a "fan"
unless Chan just really wanted this guy and made up a relatively obscure position title in order to prevent alienating the future DC
most of my posts get deleted :(
Maybe
But if that is truly his job title, you’d think that might actually be his job?
"Fan ?" You want to talk about being a fan of the Bills ? Try getting up at 3 AM every Monday to watch their games knowing they'll likely lose. Do this for 18 years and then call yourself a "fan"
Maybe they are on the verge of having the entire coaching staff signed and the only ones that we herd about are the two leaks that have come out so far. For all we know the Bills are planning a press conference in 3 days to present us the entire coaching staff.
Nix has proven to be estremely secretive, so I think that anything is possible at this point.
by CanadianBillsFan on Jan 27, 2010 12:00 AM EST up reply actions
Right on
Yep I think you might be right on the money with that one. Probably assembling a staff to unleash it to the media in one go – good old Ralph, always looking to save a dollar – even if it is by cutting back on press conferences :)
"Fan ?" You want to talk about being a fan of the Bills ? Try getting up at 3 AM every Monday to watch their games knowing they'll likely lose. Do this for 18 years and then call yourself a "fan"
Great question.
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by MattRichWarren on Jan 26, 2010 5:08 PM EST up reply actions
Has to be done
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cj6gRX7-NgM&feature=related
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from the similar fanpost:
As new Buffalo Bills head coach Chan Gailey continues to fill out his coaching staff
Did I miss something? Who has been hired officially? The RB coach from AZ? I don’t think that is official. Buffalo Bills dot com, the ‘official’ website still has Eric Studesville as the Bills RB coach, while I heard he has already joined the Broncos. How about some transparency, OBD? At least try to fool us that you are competent. I love kool-aid, but you ain’t even selling any!
Well the Bills aren’t going to announce it unless he’s signed the contract. Tranparent or not that would be foolish.
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by MattRichWarren on Jan 26, 2010 5:20 PM EST up reply actions
Why do they have to announce the hires one-by-one? Most likely they’ll cement the whole staff and roll ‘em out at the same time. Not sure why that’s a big deal.
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by Brian Galliford on Jan 26, 2010 6:58 PM EST up reply actions
I don’t care how they announce the hires as much as I care that they had to hire Gailey through a secret interview, and all this smells the same.
Oh. So it’s that.
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by Brian Galliford on Jan 26, 2010 7:03 PM EST up reply actions
So Buddy Nix likes to do things behind closed doors and not tell anyone until things are finalized. Big deal. I mean it seems to work pretty well for Bill Belicheat, why can’t it work here?
Some fans are so impatient! ;-)
by CanadianBillsFan on Jan 26, 2010 7:05 PM EST up reply actions
After they finish cementing the whole staff,
can we throw them into Lake Erie ?
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first
concrete comment I’ve read in this thread!
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It says in his bio that he a defensive line coach. He’s never coached a linebacker.
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Yep
Now it makes sense!! Giff, Nix etc…
by buffalobacker on Jan 26, 2010 5:37 PM EST up reply actions
Buddy, Chan, Giff. I feel like we’re hiring the next 3 Stouges.
by CanadianBillsFan on Jan 26, 2010 6:18 PM EST up reply actions
We still need someone named “Rusty” like was said before.
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by UZ on Jan 27, 2010 2:22 AM EST up reply actions
He was also the recruiting coordinator...
it seems as though Chan has continued to stick to at least one of his initial press conference that he is going to hire teachers…if this guy was the recruiting coordinator as well as a defensive positional coach, it stands to reason that he is capable of determining the strengths vs weakness of young players, a prerequisite to being a good teacher is being a good evaluator so that you can determine what needs to be tought.
by NorCal BillsFan on Jan 26, 2010 6:04 PM EST up reply actions
Shouldn't we hire that DC first??
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by Kurupt on Jan 26, 2010 5:36 PM EST via mobile reply actions
That’s silly talk. For the Bills to gain an edge in the AFC East, they have to find new, unique, and crafty ways to hire staff.
by Undee on Jan 26, 2010 5:39 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
rec'd.....this must be part of that Gailey inventiveness we have heard so much about
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That was exactly what I was thinking when I saw this K. Seems we are doing everything bass ackwards.
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by Hambone on Jan 26, 2010 5:42 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
That is a classic....quality sig....I am going to keep this one for a later
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I am not a 25 year coaching veteran but don’t you hire coordinators before assistants to specific positions
by FJackson's Faction on Jan 26, 2010 5:37 PM EST reply actions
Well, they haven’t hired him officially, and how do we know they don’t have an agreement with a coordinator?
Sheesh. Anything to be upset.
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by Brian Galliford on Jan 26, 2010 6:58 PM EST up reply actions
Who is upset???? This is great.....normally you have to pay big money for this kind of entertainment......wait??????
"Do you even hear how totally bat sh!t insane you sound?" - Archer
At the rate OBD is going, we might even have 3 coaches by the start of the season! Seriously, what is taking so long to do ANYTHING this offseason….
by Posluszny Pollocks on Jan 26, 2010 5:38 PM EST reply actions
Have patience. I believe this will all be over in a few days.
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by BillsfanfromDenmark on Jan 26, 2010 5:43 PM EST up reply actions
It’s REALLY hard having patience and being a Bills fan…
by Posluszny Pollocks on Jan 26, 2010 5:44 PM EST up reply actions
next announcement will be that Nix will act as DC under the direction of Gailey. ugh.
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by dzil on Jan 26, 2010 5:46 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
I am 99% sure they’ll have it wrapped up by the end of the week. That’s been the plan all along – Gailey fills his staff this week while Buddy and his crew are in Mobile.
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by Brian Galliford on Jan 26, 2010 6:59 PM EST up reply actions
Chan will take a dump in Nix's litter-box and blame it on...
Tom Modrak
by NorCal BillsFan on Jan 26, 2010 7:06 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
ROFL!!!! Ohhhh Yeaaaa...I am rec'ing that!!!!
"Do you even hear how totally bat sh!t insane you sound?" - Archer
Gut feeling. I don’t pretend to have any sources, but I’m just using my common sense. If we don’t have a coaching staff by the end of this week, we know something is wrong.
"The one commonality in both places (Oakland and Buffalo) is an aging owner who keeps interfering too much. Ralph Wilson continually butts his nose in the football operation and tells the team who to draft"
by BillsfanfromDenmark on Jan 27, 2010 9:43 AM EST up reply actions
RE: Have patience. I believe this will all be over in a few days.
Do you know something we don’t know about Ralph’s medical condition?
by StroudFanClub on Jan 26, 2010 5:54 PM EST up reply actions
Heck
He’ll probably live to be 100 and get on Good Morning America’s Smuckers award for living that long.
by buffalobacker on Jan 26, 2010 6:07 PM EST up reply actions
If they still don’t have a coaching staff by the draft, I’ll start being concerned. Right now, the offseason has still just barely began…
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by UZ on Jan 27, 2010 2:24 AM EST up reply actions
seems like an insult to the yet-to-be-named DC
I don’t see how this makes the job anything but less attractive to any prospective DC’s. “Oh, by the way, you’ll have zero input on who we hire as your assistants.” nice move.
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Unless they have their DC picked out already...
and he recommended Giff as the OLB coach…
by NorCal BillsFan on Jan 26, 2010 6:06 PM EST up reply actions
not sure how spending your career as a college d-line coach is an automatic recommendation to be an NFL LB coach. I guess defense is defense, just a different position. or not. anyway the guy does have a very good record record as d-line coach.
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Well the OLBs in a 3-4 are generally rushing and blitzing positions. I dunno.
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by MattRichWarren on Jan 27, 2010 10:05 AM EST up reply actions
I’m thinking that thats the most likely scenario. They already have their DC, they’re justironing out the contract. So they hired this guy in the meanwhile.
by CanadianBillsFan on Jan 26, 2010 6:21 PM EST up reply actions
GUYS.
The assistants are going to be teachers. They aren’t necessarily supposed to have the same ideas as the DC. Their job is to teach the players. Stop making this a bigger deal than it is.
Stop making this a bigger deal than it is.
Not likely around here.
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by UZ on Jan 27, 2010 2:24 AM EST up reply actions
Hmmm DL-Coach? I was pretty satisfied with Bob Sanders. I would love to have him back.
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may still happen. this guy’s title is “outside line backs coach”, whatever that means.
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Its an indication that we’re switching to the 3-4. Otherwise we’d simply have a Linebackers coach, wouldn’t we?
by CanadianBillsFan on Jan 26, 2010 6:22 PM EST up reply actions
maybe
be nice if he actually had a history of working the position, though.
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well the theory I believe here is........
if they are indeed going to a 3-4……..then the OLB are like Defensive ends in a way……and this guy was a DL coach…….so its not exactly like he doesnt have experience in that field.
Yeah, I just stare at my desk, but it looks like I'm working. I do that for probably another hour after lunch too, I'd say in a given week I probably only do about fifteen minutes of real, actual, work. - Peter Gibbons
by norcaliangelsfan on Jan 26, 2010 6:26 PM EST up reply actions
And its that exact theory that is making me believe that we’re going to a 3-4.
by CanadianBillsFan on Jan 26, 2010 6:29 PM EST up reply actions
Exactly...
thi doesn’t mean were going to a 3-4, but that is what it points too…he’ll be working with the pass rushing LBs (who must also drop back into coverage), so having a normal DLine coach ala Bob Sanders may have not been ideal. Bob may still be in the plan, but coaching a 4-3 DL and a 3-4 DL are too completely different animals.
by NorCal BillsFan on Jan 26, 2010 6:30 PM EST up reply actions
and there it is
the sane thought in all of this.
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by silverstreak3k on Jan 26, 2010 7:11 PM EST up reply actions
I asked Thurman Thomas via Twitter
jmhley @thurmanthomas BUF hires an OLB coach before a DC? or has the DC been silently hired?
thurmanthomas @jmhley who knows,i don’t get it and I’m not trying to figure it out
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Atta boy Thurman Thomas........
best not to try to figure out anything.
Yeah, I just stare at my desk, but it looks like I'm working. I do that for probably another hour after lunch too, I'd say in a given week I probably only do about fifteen minutes of real, actual, work. - Peter Gibbons
by norcaliangelsfan on Jan 26, 2010 5:50 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Leaked info?
I read on a Georgia Tech forum that this info was leaked and wasn’t supposed to be announced till tomorrow.
So maybe we’ll know our D-coordinator by tomorrow. With the Bills, it seems like everything has been a secret the last month, so who knows.
by ManitobaBillsFan on Jan 26, 2010 5:50 PM EST reply actions
No team would hire a OLB Coach before a D-coordinator, right?
by ManitobaBillsFan on Jan 26, 2010 5:54 PM EST up reply actions
Well they have no control over the info since he called all the GT recruits and told them. Signing day is next week so he wanted them to hear it first from him and the school. The recruits are the ones who let the press know.
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by MattRichWarren on Jan 27, 2010 10:07 AM EST up reply actions
My brain hurts.
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by NeverendingOptimism on Jan 26, 2010 5:55 PM EST reply actions
I think while Buddy Nix is the GM every discision made will be a secret until the coach or player shows up to OBD
by FJackson's Faction on Jan 26, 2010 5:55 PM EST reply actions
I too, think Nix like to keeps things under the cuff...ala Belicheat
Not a bad way to start IMO, everyone already thinks he was bad hire and what not, why tip your hat to everone that you know what your doing, if of course, you know, he actually knows what he is doing…
by NorCal BillsFan on Jan 26, 2010 6:21 PM EST up reply actions
Or the last remaining members of Lynyrd Skynyrd.
by StroudFanClub on Jan 26, 2010 6:03 PM EST up reply actions
So is it gonna be Lynyrd.......
or Skynyrd?
Yeah, I just stare at my desk, but it looks like I'm working. I do that for probably another hour after lunch too, I'd say in a given week I probably only do about fifteen minutes of real, actual, work. - Peter Gibbons
by norcaliangelsfan on Jan 26, 2010 6:10 PM EST up reply actions
Have we hired anyone yet
who did NOT work with Chan at Georgia Tech?
I guess we can already predict how we're gonna do then..............
just look at GA Tech before Paul Johnson came along.
Yeah, I just stare at my desk, but it looks like I'm working. I do that for probably another hour after lunch too, I'd say in a given week I probably only do about fifteen minutes of real, actual, work. - Peter Gibbons
by norcaliangelsfan on Jan 26, 2010 6:01 PM EST up reply actions
Well it stands to reason if he brings all the coaches from his last stop.....
how could he produce the same results?
Yeah, I just stare at my desk, but it looks like I'm working. I do that for probably another hour after lunch too, I'd say in a given week I probably only do about fifteen minutes of real, actual, work. - Peter Gibbons
by norcaliangelsfan on Jan 26, 2010 6:09 PM EST up reply actions
talking about Tenuta being the possible DC.......
Yeah, I just stare at my desk, but it looks like I'm working. I do that for probably another hour after lunch too, I'd say in a given week I probably only do about fifteen minutes of real, actual, work. - Peter Gibbons
by norcaliangelsfan on Jan 26, 2010 6:15 PM EST up reply actions
just a name that has been thrown out.........
nothing concrete……..its all speculation……
Yeah, I just stare at my desk, but it looks like I'm working. I do that for probably another hour after lunch too, I'd say in a given week I probably only do about fifteen minutes of real, actual, work. - Peter Gibbons
by norcaliangelsfan on Jan 26, 2010 6:16 PM EST up reply actions
Tenuta’s a good DC, but I know that alot of the reasons he’s job hopped around college is he’s an abrasive personality – he’s worn out his welcome very quickly. he also had a reputation of not being a big fan of recruiting and some of the mundane elements of coaching in college. I’m kinda surprised he’s never ended up in the pros, but at the same time, his got kind of a dour demeanor, and if Chan is all about “teaching” guys, I’m gonna say he’s probably not the best fit.
He was with Chan his entire time at GT..........
he only got let go when Paul Johnson was hired on…….
Yeah, I just stare at my desk, but it looks like I'm working. I do that for probably another hour after lunch too, I'd say in a given week I probably only do about fifteen minutes of real, actual, work. - Peter Gibbons
by norcaliangelsfan on Jan 26, 2010 6:20 PM EST up reply actions
and pj's defenses have not been good
as i remember one of the good things about ga tech during that time was their defense….
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by silverstreak3k on Jan 26, 2010 7:14 PM EST up reply actions
Yes, we have. At least one of the Jauron/Fewell regime will be returning. Bank on it.
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by Brian Galliford on Jan 26, 2010 7:01 PM EST up reply actions
I don’t know who it is, but I do know at least one is coming back. 100% on that.
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by Brian Galliford on Jan 26, 2010 7:06 PM EST up reply actions
I’m working on it. :)
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by Brian Galliford on Jan 26, 2010 7:09 PM EST up reply actions
If i had a guess in the matter.....
I would say George Catavolos
Yeah, I just stare at my desk, but it looks like I'm working. I do that for probably another hour after lunch too, I'd say in a given week I probably only do about fifteen minutes of real, actual, work. - Peter Gibbons
by norcaliangelsfan on Jan 26, 2010 7:19 PM EST up reply actions
I’m hesitant to guess, but that would be mine as well.
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by Brian Galliford on Jan 26, 2010 7:20 PM EST up reply actions
You can't say he wasn't effective in his last year...
a rookie CB converted to FS leads the league in Ints…pretty good
by NorCal BillsFan on Jan 26, 2010 7:21 PM EST up reply actions
But if the team goes the 3-4 route.....
I doubt he stays on…….much like what happened to him over in GB.
Yeah, I just stare at my desk, but it looks like I'm working. I do that for probably another hour after lunch too, I'd say in a given week I probably only do about fifteen minutes of real, actual, work. - Peter Gibbons
by norcaliangelsfan on Jan 26, 2010 7:23 PM EST up reply actions
and following that point up.....
the 3-4 doesnt have much effect on the DB’s……so thats why I went with him.(Catavolos)…….he seems the most logical in my opinion
Yeah, I just stare at my desk, but it looks like I'm working. I do that for probably another hour after lunch too, I'd say in a given week I probably only do about fifteen minutes of real, actual, work. - Peter Gibbons
by norcaliangelsfan on Jan 26, 2010 7:25 PM EST up reply actions
HAHA
yes,……….touche’
Yeah, I just stare at my desk, but it looks like I'm working. I do that for probably another hour after lunch too, I'd say in a given week I probably only do about fifteen minutes of real, actual, work. - Peter Gibbons
by norcaliangelsfan on Jan 26, 2010 7:28 PM EST up reply actions
the DB's have hardly been the problem the last few years.......
the lack of pass rush had just as much if not more for the DB struggles before this year………
Yeah, I just stare at my desk, but it looks like I'm working. I do that for probably another hour after lunch too, I'd say in a given week I probably only do about fifteen minutes of real, actual, work. - Peter Gibbons
by norcaliangelsfan on Jan 26, 2010 7:23 PM EST up reply actions
Can we do a quick process of elimination?
Alex Van Pelt
Offensive Coordinator
John Allaire
Strength and Conditioning Coach
Ray Brown
Assistant Offensive Line Coach
George Catavolos
Defensive Backs Coach
Charlie Coiner
Tight Ends Coach
Demontie Cross
Assistant Linebackers Coach / Special Teams
Nathaniel Hackett
Offensive Quality Control Coach
Chuck Lester
Assistant to the Head Coach/Special Projects
Bob Sanders
Defensive Line Coach
Matt Sheldon
Linebackers Coach
Eric Studesville
Running Game Coordinator/Running Backs Coach
Adrian White
Defensive Quality Control Coach
by NorCal BillsFan on Jan 26, 2010 7:19 PM EST up reply actions
I only see 2 that have a shot of comming back: Sanders and Catavolos. The rest deserve to be gone.
by CanadianBillsFan on Jan 26, 2010 8:03 PM EST up reply actions
Hackett did a heck of job on Offensive quality control
never let the quality get too high…. kept it nicely under control.
...so I guess now I root for chan gailey...
Lester might come back. He’s been here 20 years.
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by MattRichWarren on Jan 27, 2010 10:09 AM EST up reply actions
Sure he’s been here 20 years, but has he recently done anything to warrant him comming back?
by CanadianBillsFan on Jan 27, 2010 12:25 PM EST up reply actions
How would I know? he’s been “special coach” on assignment – whatever that means.
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by MattRichWarren on Jan 27, 2010 2:07 PM EST up reply actions
I’m confused. We hired an OLB Coach before hireing a DC?
by CanadianBillsFan on Jan 26, 2010 6:14 PM EST reply actions
Unofficially. Has OBD announced anything? After all the crazy rumors we heard during the head coach search would it shock you if this isn’t accurate? Or if the Bills already have a DC but haven’t named him yet? I don’t believe anything along these lines anymore unless it is an official OBD announcement.
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by sireric on Jan 26, 2010 6:19 PM EST up reply actions 6 recs
If people need to make sence of all this,
look at sireric’s point here. And make it green so it saves people some turmoil.
Not sure.....
you would think that would be obvious.
Yeah, I just stare at my desk, but it looks like I'm working. I do that for probably another hour after lunch too, I'd say in a given week I probably only do about fifteen minutes of real, actual, work. - Peter Gibbons
by norcaliangelsfan on Jan 26, 2010 6:20 PM EST up reply actions
I know.
Over under for comments from here on out that ask that question before reading any of the thread? I say 15 before midnight.
honestly that high?
lol………Imma say under…..but not by much :-)
Yeah, I just stare at my desk, but it looks like I'm working. I do that for probably another hour after lunch too, I'd say in a given week I probably only do about fifteen minutes of real, actual, work. - Peter Gibbons
by norcaliangelsfan on Jan 26, 2010 6:22 PM EST up reply actions
I'll take the under on that too...
only bcuz its so high and the normal posters have already been here today…
by NorCal BillsFan on Jan 26, 2010 6:26 PM EST up reply actions
but all the posts will be of you and NorCali setting up lines for Joe P. to say...
TWSS
by NorCal BillsFan on Jan 26, 2010 6:39 PM EST up reply actions
I can set those up for myself TYVM.......
haha
Yeah, I just stare at my desk, but it looks like I'm working. I do that for probably another hour after lunch too, I'd say in a given week I probably only do about fifteen minutes of real, actual, work. - Peter Gibbons
by norcaliangelsfan on Jan 26, 2010 6:39 PM EST up reply actions
Haha...that reminds me of...
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by NorCal BillsFan on Jan 26, 2010 6:44 PM EST up reply actions
Wedding Singer........ftw.....
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“Yeah…the better man…” – Dave
HAHA
Yeah, I just stare at my desk, but it looks like I'm working. I do that for probably another hour after lunch too, I'd say in a given week I probably only do about fifteen minutes of real, actual, work. - Peter Gibbons
by norcaliangelsfan on Jan 26, 2010 6:49 PM EST up reply actions
ugh...Ladies and Gentlemen*
Yeah, I just stare at my desk, but it looks like I'm working. I do that for probably another hour after lunch too, I'd say in a given week I probably only do about fifteen minutes of real, actual, work. - Peter Gibbons
by norcaliangelsfan on Jan 26, 2010 6:49 PM EST up reply actions
huh?
been asked repeatedly here already, in round about ways anyway.
most of my posts get deleted :(
lol...........
sarcasm monster just popped in to say hello to you Mr DZIL.
Yeah, I just stare at my desk, but it looks like I'm working. I do that for probably another hour after lunch too, I'd say in a given week I probably only do about fifteen minutes of real, actual, work. - Peter Gibbons
by norcaliangelsfan on Jan 26, 2010 6:21 PM EST up reply actions
Ouch.....are you keeping track of how many wacks it takes before it all makes sense.....
you know….like how many licks it takes to get to the center of of tootsie pop?
"Do you even hear how totally bat sh!t insane you sound?" - Archer
I’m guessing that the wall will give in before we reach the required amount of wacks.
by CanadianBillsFan on Jan 26, 2010 8:06 PM EST up reply actions
The trick is to make sure you miss the studs...they are very hard and you pass out after a few good bangs
"Do you even hear how totally bat sh!t insane you sound?" - Archer
Just call me Ed McMahon.....if you are old enough to know who he is :-)
"Do you even hear how totally bat sh!t insane you sound?" - Archer
It might not seem like it from my posts, but I may be older than you. But thanks for the softballs. That was my first TWSS (awwww)
Whydo i get the feeling that your talking from experience?
by CanadianBillsFan on Jan 26, 2010 8:16 PM EST up reply actions
Hmmmmm....because I am a live long Bills fan??????
"Do you even hear how totally bat sh!t insane you sound?" - Archer
FINAL ANALYSIS:
seriously….we may as well name ourselves the Buffalo Rumage Sales, because this is the most ridiculoous looking, rag tag ,random coaching staff i have ever heard of in my entire freaking life.
I swear to God it’s Chan and a bunch of radio call-in contest winners coaching our football team.
3-13 next year….don’t see any way around it. No players…..No coaches….No future
because this is the most ridiculoous looking, rag tag ,random coaching staff i have ever heard of in my entire freaking life.
What coach is officially on the staff other the Chan Gailey?
No weekend spent pantsless is a wasted weekend.
Optimistic are we?
I can do all things through he whom gives me strength. Philippians 4:13
by NCbillsfan12 on Jan 26, 2010 6:41 PM EST up reply actions
i'll answer this once and for all.
none. Just chan, hanging out by his lonesome.
now will modkins and the Giffer join the staff? probably. but as of right now, it’s just chan.
...so I guess now I root for chan gailey...
btw it’s rummage. rumage is a yummy mixed drink
most of my posts get deleted :(
by dzil on Jan 26, 2010 6:44 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
HAHA
nice…..
Yeah, I just stare at my desk, but it looks like I'm working. I do that for probably another hour after lunch too, I'd say in a given week I probably only do about fifteen minutes of real, actual, work. - Peter Gibbons
by norcaliangelsfan on Jan 26, 2010 6:45 PM EST up reply actions
What was the number?
I swear to God it’s Chan and a bunch of radio call-in contest winners coaching our football team.
by NorCal BillsFan on Jan 26, 2010 6:46 PM EST up reply actions
haha
1-800-Ima-Winner!
I can do all things through he whom gives me strength. Philippians 4:13
by NCbillsfan12 on Jan 26, 2010 6:46 PM EST up reply actions
ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
Buffalo Rumblings. On Twitter.
"You miss 100% of the shots you don't take. --Wayne Grezky" --Michael Scott
by Brian Galliford on Jan 26, 2010 7:03 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Hey look at that, a Brian freakout!
by CanadianBillsFan on Jan 26, 2010 7:04 PM EST up reply actions
Oh no doubt. But he doesn’t show them very often in the comments section.
by CanadianBillsFan on Jan 26, 2010 8:04 PM EST up reply actions
That is a relief...
I thought maybe he had a “Franks and Beans” moment :-)
"Do you even hear how totally bat sh!t insane you sound?" - Archer
Do we have a
succession plan in case Brian’s head explodes? =P
Schmucks don't make it to the Pro Bowl... except Jason Peters!
by Run Thurmal Run! on Jan 26, 2010 8:42 PM EST up reply actions
Man this is a Bills sight. Our succession plan is to not have a real leader and then slowly decrease in quality for the next ten year.
by CanadianBillsFan on Jan 26, 2010 8:57 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Rec’d.
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by MattRichWarren on Jan 27, 2010 10:15 AM EST up reply actions
Theres a joke Daniel Tosh said:
“Ive got the greatest job ever….next week im working in Hawaii!….really, im working in Oklahoma, but in my mind, im in sunny Hawaii!”
Im thinking we take the same approach with the Buffalo Bills!
I can do all things through he whom gives me strength. Philippians 4:13
we may be a 3-13 team....but in backwards world were 13-3! Can anyone say playoffs?
I can do all things through he whom gives me strength. Philippians 4:13
by NCbillsfan12 on Jan 26, 2010 6:47 PM EST up reply actions
I have no clue what that acronym means
I can do all things through he whom gives me strength. Philippians 4:13
by NCbillsfan12 on Jan 26, 2010 6:52 PM EST up reply actions
Dont mind me...Im retarted!
I can do all things through he whom gives me strength. Philippians 4:13
by NCbillsfan12 on Jan 26, 2010 6:53 PM EST up reply actions
see you're not the only slow on the draw one today......
congrats :-)
Yeah, I just stare at my desk, but it looks like I'm working. I do that for probably another hour after lunch too, I'd say in a given week I probably only do about fifteen minutes of real, actual, work. - Peter Gibbons
by norcaliangelsfan on Jan 26, 2010 6:53 PM EST up reply actions
gee
there’s almost a complinsult hidden in there somewhere. almost to 200 :)
most of my posts get deleted :(
backhanded compliments FTW
Yeah, I just stare at my desk, but it looks like I'm working. I do that for probably another hour after lunch too, I'd say in a given week I probably only do about fifteen minutes of real, actual, work. - Peter Gibbons
by norcaliangelsfan on Jan 26, 2010 6:56 PM EST up reply actions
well its kept me entertained for a bit.....
only 35 min of work left till my weekend starts.
Yeah, I just stare at my desk, but it looks like I'm working. I do that for probably another hour after lunch too, I'd say in a given week I probably only do about fifteen minutes of real, actual, work. - Peter Gibbons
by norcaliangelsfan on Jan 26, 2010 6:56 PM EST up reply actions
Where did the leak originate? GT or OBD?
If it was GT, it was probably bcuz the recruits were told. If it was OBD, it was to shed some light on our new 3-4 Def…
by NorCal BillsFan on Jan 26, 2010 7:00 PM EST up reply actions
Why is everyone freaking out
We maybe, possibly, hired a low-level assistant. What is the big deal?
B-B-B-Byrd Byrd Byrd, Byrd is the Wyrd!"
by willgarr15 on Jan 26, 2010 6:46 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
Sorry, I mean I guess I'll get on board:
AAAAAHHHHHHH!!!!!!! WHY WOULD WE HIRE A GUY I’VE NEVER HEARD OF TO WORK A POSITION THAT NO ONE BESIDES READERS OF THIS SITE WILL EVER EVEN KNOW EXISTS!!!!!!! WHAT A TYPICAL BILLS MOVE! OUR OWNER IS 91 AND WILL DIE ANY SECOND!!!! WHY DIDN’T WE HIRE BILL COWHER?!!?!!?! SOMEONE START A COLLECTION TO DROP $2000 ON A BILLBOARD DESCRIBING MY DISGUST OVER THIS!!!!!!
B-B-B-Byrd Byrd Byrd, Byrd is the Wyrd!"
by willgarr15 on Jan 26, 2010 6:49 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Rec'd......
just for the dramatic effect.
Yeah, I just stare at my desk, but it looks like I'm working. I do that for probably another hour after lunch too, I'd say in a given week I probably only do about fifteen minutes of real, actual, work. - Peter Gibbons
by norcaliangelsfan on Jan 26, 2010 6:50 PM EST up reply actions
I'll send you a envelope-sized "billboard" that you can drop $2000 on...
just send it back to me and I’ll describe your disgust to all my friends…
by NorCal BillsFan on Jan 26, 2010 6:55 PM EST up reply actions
Thanks NorCal
How about $1500 but you have to yell it off of a bridge somewhere?
B-B-B-Byrd Byrd Byrd, Byrd is the Wyrd!"
got a nice bridge here at the lake I work at..........
Great view of the water too :-)
Yeah, I just stare at my desk, but it looks like I'm working. I do that for probably another hour after lunch too, I'd say in a given week I probably only do about fifteen minutes of real, actual, work. - Peter Gibbons
by norcaliangelsfan on Jan 26, 2010 6:57 PM EST up reply actions
That too!
: )
It hard to be funny in an online forum when you have trouble saying what you mean…
its not like I could’ve edited that before posting…oh wait.
by NorCal BillsFan on Jan 26, 2010 7:03 PM EST up reply actions
At first glance I thought abayarde wrote this…
Delightfully Ignoring The Truth since 1995.
by NeverendingOptimism on Jan 26, 2010 11:58 PM EST up reply actions
it’s called self-deprecating humor. one way to preserve sanity in an insane situation. don’t take it too seriously.
most of my posts get deleted :(
I realize some people are being humorous but it seems too absurd to really even be discussing…
B-B-B-Byrd Byrd Byrd, Byrd is the Wyrd!"
you realize that we are Bills fans......
we have nothing else better to do in the month of January
Yeah, I just stare at my desk, but it looks like I'm working. I do that for probably another hour after lunch too, I'd say in a given week I probably only do about fifteen minutes of real, actual, work. - Peter Gibbons
by norcaliangelsfan on Jan 26, 2010 6:56 PM EST up reply actions
Bottome line?
We do not know who or what this guy brings to the table, good or bad. It is frustrating to think that we will have rookie coaches trying to teach our players to win. However, optimism is key here. Everyone needs a start. I like the fact that we are putting in the effort to stabilize the offense with a solid offensive mind. The Defense needs teachers at this point and maybe new faces and new ideas will bring life to this team who has been drown in the DJ Era with a ho-hum attitude. DJ was famous for “well we are playing hard” and what did that get us? And they do play hard and they are young and the players need direction. Let’s get them direction!
We will know all the pieces to the puzzle shortly but please lets get some teachers in here to improve our players. Playing hard is not enough. If Giff can do that then what do we have to lose?
simply can't win
It is frustrating to think that we will have rookie coaches trying to teach our players to win.
If the guy is young with little to no coaching experience we get this. If he is older and a veteran of the coaching ranks, we get all that too old stuff. I give up I really do.
No weekend spent pantsless is a wasted weekend.
Its opinions man............
thats all :-)
Cheer up
Yeah, I just stare at my desk, but it looks like I'm working. I do that for probably another hour after lunch too, I'd say in a given week I probably only do about fifteen minutes of real, actual, work. - Peter Gibbons
by norcaliangelsfan on Jan 26, 2010 7:29 PM EST up reply actions
no you don't.
your love of the frustratingly stupid is what makes you a bills fan.
...so I guess now I root for chan gailey...
Bills to Fans: Shutup and pay.
The folks at OBD continue to treat the fans – and media – with disdain, taking advantage of their enthusiasm and willingness to pay for an inferior product. Why change the current business plan when there is no incentive to do so? The team turns a solid profit. The Wilson family and the Bills execs line their pockets with working class dough. While the Toronto windfall and revenue sharing only add to their profits. Why spend that money on the field, pay for a quality GM, quality coaches, or an NFL level scouting department when the stadium is being filled already? Until Littman’s ledger starts to tip, as Ralph said, luck will be our best hope. Time to organize, Bills fans.
Time to organize, Bills fans.
Why? Is JP picking up trash downtown again?
by NorCal BillsFan on Jan 26, 2010 7:28 PM EST up reply actions
Can I Ask Questions?
Can this be worse than the last 4 years?
Is this team that far off?
With 3 Key additions as far as talent goes and some better (Winning attitude) coaching is this team far from the playoffs?
Lighten up folks....
All this questioning, etc will get ya nothing but drunk… or worse…
We, the fans, have gotten a little “leaked” info in regards to a couple maybes….
Didn’t ya get enough of the guessing and speculation during the HC hiring?
IF!!!! This proves to be true, doncha think, maybe, just maybe, we already have our DC, and are just putting more parts of his staff together before announcing it?? And maybe, just maybe, ah….. heck with it…. Go ahead… Be miserable…
But remember… Our new GM does seem to have a flair for dramatics, and none for speculation…. And I happen to like that about him….
Is Biff Tannen next?
Fingers crossed!
~K
"As the governor of Louisiana once said, the only way Chris Kelsay can lose his job is if he got caught in bed with a dead girl or a live boy."
by Kurupt on Jan 26, 2010 7:53 PM EST via mobile reply actions
Any Biff will do
I’m hoping we hire Biff Henderson from Letterman’s staff. He’s got a lot of experience… wearing a headset. =P
Schmucks don't make it to the Pro Bowl... except Jason Peters!
by Run Thurmal Run! on Jan 26, 2010 8:14 PM EST up reply actions
Hire Biff Tannen and draft McClain … It will bring 80’s back.
by hightower_mc on Jan 26, 2010 8:28 PM EST up reply actions
That's what I've been saying!
Next up venkman!
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by silverstreak3k on Jan 26, 2010 8:39 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
haha just like its spelled...
Yes Giff is a name. Billieve it or not lol
"Be a wuss at home! Be a man on Rumblings!" - Kurupt
What is the pay scale for an OLB coach?
versus a DL coach?
Gotta be at least 200k so he gets a raise from Georgia Tech. I believe he was at 189k there.
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by MattRichWarren on Jan 27, 2010 10:18 AM EST up reply actions
signings
If we can’t sign coaches quickly what’s going to happen with out draft picks? How many days has it been since Chan has been hired? Yet we have no official coaches announced just rumors.
by speed1934 on Jan 26, 2010 8:39 PM EST via mobile reply actions
“If we can’t sign coaches quickly what’s going to happen with out draft picks?”
Um…. they will sign because they don’t have a choice about where they go.
“How many days has it been since Chan has been hired?”
Sevenish.
“Yet we have no official coaches announced just rumors.”
Yes. The Seahawks know their assistants largely because Pete Carroll brought them from USC. The Bears are on day 21 without a DC and OC.
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by MattRichWarren on Jan 27, 2010 10:20 AM EST up reply actions
“announced” is the key i think they will assemble the whole staff before they release the information. i mean it was “announced” that Modkins was the new OC a few days ago and nothing official yet on him.
by FJackson's Faction on Jan 26, 2010 9:11 PM EST reply actions
don't expect any announcements before saturday night, since Nix is at the senior bowl all week
most of my posts get deleted :(
So since Pees is the LB coach for the Ravens,
does that mean he wasn’t interested in being the DC for the Bills or was never on their radar?
"Do you even hear how totally bat sh!t insane you sound?" - Archer
Who pees on a radar????
ever pee on an electric fence Joe???? I tell my wife that’s why……well, I’ll keep that part privates if that’s OK….
That's OK.....I will try to hide my disappointment :-)
"Do you even hear how totally bat sh!t insane you sound?" - Archer
Let's be logical here...
Everyone’s first reaction is like WTH and who the H is this guy? I admit, my first reaction was something like that too.
BUT…
consider the logical reasons for this “hire” if it ends up being “officially annouced” at some point:
1) College guys need to make a change quickly, particularly “recruiting coordinators” so that positions can be back-filled and recruits are not lost. Notice the article talks about top recruits not changing their minds. So his hiring was probably done weeks ago.
2) If the hiring was done weeks ago (or just recently) look at the guy’s title “OLB Coach”. Maybe the top staffs in the NFL has an OLB coach, but don’t be fooled with the title. I am sure Chan just called him “something” to give the guy a job title and a pay range. I like in the article that it showed his $189K salary. Nice jack for a college job. I am sure he will get more for the OLB position. So why hire him in that role? Probably because he is one of those guys, that is a must hire for any organization. I am going to assume that as a recruiting coordinator, the guy is good at assessing talent and a great “recruiter” for building a culture or attitude for our team. Who knows if he can coach a position well. My guess is the guy is a great “up and coming coach” that Chan respected and wanted, so he titled him something. It was probably disappointing that it was “leaked” and it adds to the “PR” mess they have been dealing with at OBD for the past 18 months.
3) This is only a “guess” or speculation on my behalf, but if the Bills don’t announce a DC hire tomorrow or the next day, my guess is that they have their DC coach targeted on one of the Superbowl team’s staffs. Look at Indy: How about Mike Murphy LB’s coach for 12 years, or D-Line Coach Bill Teerlinck or DBs coach Alan Williams both of whom have been with them in their positions for 8-years?
I could see Nix or Gailey look at a Murphy and say, “that’s our guy” however, they can’t touch him until they are done with the SB.
Anyway… good we have Giff if he is a targeted guy to bring in. We’ll see what the next few days at the Sr. Bowl tell us. If no DC announced. Look at Murphy or someone like him.
seriously doubt that Nix will be making any announcements from Alabama.
most of my posts get deleted :(
Agreed, no "announcement" is going to be made in AL. However...
This is the “hotbed” for coaching changes for “lower level” hires and staff moves. Consider that Chan and Buddy are probably putting in extra time with talking to coaches, agents, GM’s, etc.
“Official Announcements” will certainly be made after the Sr. Bowl. However if they were going to be hiring a DC to join them in AL, I would assume the announcement would be made or would have been made already… hence why I think the Murphy or other coaches on one of the SB teams is a logical consideration.
To summarize
the news is reportedly a leak from georgia tech
what does that mean? That the bills didn’t intend to announce it. What does that mean? That they probably didn’t hire an OLB coach before a coordinator. The DC probably just works somewhere that can keep his mouth shut.
To me the only news of note here is that signs point to us running the 3-4 next year. I like that. Not because I favor the 3-4 over the 4-3 (which I do, incidentally) but because it’s the first time I’ve seen this franchise NOT take the path of least resistance in a long time. It means that Buddy and Chan aren’t looking for ways to not embarrass themselves next year. They’re willing to look bad for a year because they think that’s in the best longterm interest of the team. That’s a good sign. In fact, it might be the best sign I’ve seen all offseason.
...so I guess now I root for chan gailey...
by JPH on Jan 27, 2010 12:31 AM EST reply actions 1 recs
Don’t get married to anything. It could all change with an official announcement from OBD.
But good summary. I agree that if they plan on making a change for improvement’s sake, they shouldn’t let next year be the basis for huge decisions.
That’s why I’m in such a weird place, emotionally, right now. New GM with a good track record: check. New HC with a good resume on offense instead of defense: check. Coach up the RBs, namely Lynch: check. Switch to a 3-4: check.
It’s almost getting freaky. The abundance of Georgia Tech coaches on staff ( if true ), is a little alarming though.
Schmucks don't make it to the Pro Bowl... except Jason Peters!
by Run Thurmal Run! on Jan 27, 2010 12:45 AM EST up reply actions
the news is reportedly a leak from georgia tech what does that mean?
It means when he called the guys he recruited to tell them, those guys talked to the media.
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by MattRichWarren on Jan 27, 2010 10:21 AM EST up reply actions
The Bears have been without a DC and OC for three weeks now. “OMG WE HAVEN”T HIRED ANYONE YET" is a little premature.
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by MattRichWarren on Jan 27, 2010 10:22 AM EST reply actions
The Bears have been turned down a couple of times so far...
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