Sireric's first mock draft of the year
by sireric on Jan 29, 2010 8:51 PM EST
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PrintI told myself that I wouldn't do one of these too early. My rational was that it is too early and too many things change, I wanted to wait until after the combine at the earliest. Alas, my will power is too low and all it really took was to look at two or three other mocks and I was done.
A few things to keep in mind:
1 - I am convinced that new Bills GM Buddy Nix will go best player available when it comes to drafting. Just because this team needs a QB and a tackle really bad, I don't think he will overrate them too highly on his draft board. That means that if you get mad at this mock because I don't have a QB or OT in the first two rounds and that angers you, well then let me suggest you don't watch the draft live because you will only get even more pissed then.
2 - I fully admit that this is a very early mock, I am by no means married to any of these picks. Consider this a very rough draft.
3 - Please don't think that just because the team needs a particular position more then another that that is the position that will be filled first. In other words don't make a projected needs list and draft right down the list according to need. You will only set yourself up for disappointment.
Okay on to the draft.
Round 1 - pick #9 - Rolando McClain - LB - Alabama
As I said, best player available. McClain has not only been a starter but has called the defensive plays for the Crimson Tide since he was a freshman. If the Bills do indeed switch to a 3-4 defense having McClain in the middle lining up next to Poz will give the Bills a solid duo up the middle. This would be an outstanding pick and as of right now is the one guy who I like best for the Bills at this spot.
Round 2 - pick #41 - Jahvid Best - RB - Cal
This is guaranteed to be the most contested pick I put up here, but I have dealt with that stuff before. Plain and simple BPA. Before Best hurt his knee he was a lock for a top 5 pick. He was quite simply the best running back in the nation. Since his injury he has slipped into the second round in most mocks. I fully expect that once Best performs in the combine and Cal's pro day he will climb back into the first round, but until that happens he stays on the Bills radar in the second round. Fred Jackson is 30, and do I need to remind everyone why we can't trust Marshawn Lynch? Best would be a tremendous addition to this Bills offense and in two or three years people will be talking about what a steal this pick was.
Round 3 - pick #72 - Kyle Calloway - OT - Iowa
While his line mate and fellow tackle Bryan Bulaga gets most of the attention at Iowa, Calloway has become a very solid OT. While Calloway does project more as a right tackle then a left one, the Bills need solid o-line players, and adding a player like Calloway to hold down the right tackle spot to go with Levitre and a hopefully healthy Wood should give the Bills three very solid links in the O-line chain.
Round 4 - pick #104 - Torrell Troup - DT - Central Florida
A member of the All-Conference USA Second Team,Troup dominated the opposition during East-West Shrine practices. At 6-3 and 314 pounds, Troup has the size and ability to play the NT position in the 3-4 defense. Something the Bills will need if they do in fact make that switch. The Bills also need to think about a possible replacement for the aging Marcus Stroud.
Round 5 - pick #136 - Dan LeFevour - QB - Central Michigan
I am convinced that the Bills will take a QB in this draft, and that they will also take one later. I think the Bills will go with a veteran QB and groom a youngster for the future. LeFevour is still kinda raw, he hasn't played in a pro style offense and has a reputation as a guy who will tuck the ball in and run a little too soon. He will definitely need some coaching up but he has plenty of tools to work with.
Round 6 - pick #168 - Antonio Coleman - OLB (3-4) - Auburn
Not the fastest player for this position, but he has good size at 6-2 and 255 pounds. Production is also there. As a junior Coleman had 6 sacks and 10.5 tackles for a loss. As a senior he recorded 10 sacks and 16.6 tackles for a loss. Coleman was also an All-SEC first team player. Size and depth for the LB position.
Round 6 - pick #152 (from Eagles for Jason Peters) - John Estes -C - Hawaii
Estes was the All - WAC First team Center two years in a row. After starting 14 games at Guard his freshman year he moved to center and played every game the rest of his college career as the center for Rainbow Warriors, setting the NCAA record for consecutive starts at 54.
Round 7 - Pick #193 (from Lions for Ko Simpson) - Cord Howard - OG -Georgia Tech
Chan Gailey taps into his roots and pulls out Howard. Howard made All - ACC second team in 2008 as a sophomore and was All - ACC first teamer this year as a senior. He had some trouble at the senior bowl practice with speed rushers but he is a powerful player that tends to do well in the run game.
Round 7 - pick #200 - Naaman Roosevelt - WR - Buffalo
The Bills tap into a local boy for their final pick. Roosevelt had plenty of production in his final two years for the Bulls. His junior stats were amazing finishing with 104 catches, 1,402 yards and 13 touchdowns. His numbers dropped for his senior campaign finishing with 70 grabs, 954 yards and nine touchdowns. Even with the drop off, 174 catches, 2,356 yards and 22 touchdowns in two years is pretty darn good.
Well that's it. Plenty will change, especially once the combine and pro days happen, and the compensation picks come out.
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Its a good wide spectrum of players and positions..all of which can contribute to the team in some way......
Although I dont believe Best will be there in round 2 like you said………you might be able to substitute Mcknight in for him………and get equal production.
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by norcaliangelsfan on Jan 29, 2010 9:02 PM EST reply actions
Not a bad take on what could be.........
… except there is no way we will wait til round 3 to draft an OT.
I love Rolando, so that 1st pick would make me happy. After that, unless the top two QBs fall somehow to the second round (which they won’t) we will take an OT there.
I enjoyed your later round picks. That’s where teams really make the money if they find a gem.
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by SERGEANT MAJOR THOR on Jan 29, 2010 9:18 PM EST reply actions
agree'd
about OT. That’s the only position that the need is overwhelmingly glaring. I think regardless of BPA, we’ll have an OT with number 9 or 41 (or manage a trade for an additional pick in round 1/2.
Trample the weak, hurdle the dead!
Replace Best
with the best OT available then replace the 3rd round OT pick with best WR availaible and i am more than ok with this
"Hold ya chin up...nuh nuh nuh...gone" -Marshawn Lynch-
You should have stuck to your guns and waited :-)
I voted the OK option. As big a Nix supporter as you are, I am surprised you have forgotten one of the only things Nix said that I liked. I can’t remember the exact quote, but it was something to the effect that nobody really drafts BPA. Need is ALWAYS a factor that can’t be ignored. I do like that you used a lot of picks on the fat guys, but just a little to late. We have two RBs for the moment, and most teams in the NFL don’t have better depth than that, so unless we trade Lynch and get more picks, I don’t see us taking a RB that early….perhaps a FB in the later rounds. I said last year we needed to address the O-line with the first two picks and IMO that need has increased this year. If we pass on a QB in rounds 1 and 2, I would mind going McClain with pick one and OT in both 2 and 3. If we go to a 3-4 and need to draft a NT, then go NT in rounds 3-4. I doubt LeFevour lasts past the 4th round and would be a steal in the 5th.
"Do you even hear how totally bat sh!t insane you sound?" - Archer
question though…doesn’t a LB fill a need? And I am sorry I don’t tryst Lynch to be here after his contract is up. If I have the opportunity to take a stud RB like Best in round two I would do it in a nano second. Whether Lynch is on the roster or not. In fact I have already written Marshawn off the roster.
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I’m a big fan of McClain, LeFevour, and Roosevelt( he went to school with my cousin)
Not so much Best( u did say this would be questioned)
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I would not cry over this, however.........
aren’t you missing 4 or 5 DB’s? Oh wait, those days are over 8-)
Why do today, when it can wait til tomorrow; the games on!
No left tackle!?!
are you serious? I’d also like to see a FB/blocking TE for Gailey’s run-first offense.
most of my posts get deleted :(
3 – Please don’t think that just because the team needs a particular position more then another that that is the position that will be filled first. In other words don’t make a projected needs list and draft right down the list according to need. You will only set yourself up for disappointment.
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yeah I read your post, and disagree with that premise to an extent. wondering how Maybin fits into that theory. So you’re saying Jahvid Best will be the BPA at 41 and I’m saying it will be Vladimir Ducasse, who just happens to fit a dyer need. DT Dan Williams could be at 41 also. Round 2 should be loaded with talent, there’s no reason to be averse to filling a need there. To not take an OT in the first two rounds is grounds for dismissal, sir.
most of my posts get deleted :(
agreed....hope Nix does too
To not take an OT in the first two rounds is grounds for dismissal, sir.
"Do you even hear how totally bat sh!t insane you sound?" - Archer
wondering how Maybin fits into that theory.
Nix wasn’t calling the shots last year. Many have seen that as an indictment of Maybin.
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by MattRichWarren on Jan 30, 2010 9:51 AM EST up reply actions
I never claimed Maybin was BPA. You apparently just made that claim…not me.
You guys are setting yourself up for a draft day nightmare. you are slotting needs into certain areas and saying that Position A has to be filled in either space x, y, or z or this team is doomed. Did you watch the draft the last few years? How often does it work out like that?
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I see Jahvid Best and Maybin as similar situations. Both are undersized, undeveloped and very young with around 1 season of success. Sorry I didn’t explain the reason for my reference to Maybin before.
When there are a half dozen OT studs available in the first 40 or so picks, how is slotting for one a recipe for a draft day nightmare?
most of my posts get deleted :(
What I am saying is that you are setting yourself up for disappointment. The Bills, or any team for that matter, simply never draft according to how the fans slot picks, and by doing so you are only setting yourself up to scream at your tv on draft day.
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And on the Best/Maybin thing
They play two different positions. At one point Best was considered the best player at his position in the country, nobody said that about Maybin. Is Best a little small? Yes. But so is Maurice Jones-Drew. Hows he doing?
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MJD is 5’7 and 230+ lbs. short? yes. small? guess it depends how you define small.
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guess it depends how you define small.
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by MattRichWarren on Jan 30, 2010 1:26 PM EST up reply actions
230 pounds? That’s gotta be off by at least 15 or 20 pounds. 5’7’’, 230 would be a ridiculous build.
Use Jamaal Charles if MJD doesn’t work for you.
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I'm down with it
though I’m obviously still voting for the last choice. Its too big of a softball.
I like Best but am concerned about his injuries. I thought repeated concussions did him in, not a knee injury. That’s why I’m more concerned about his health.
I’m okay with Calloway but don’t see how a RT helps us. How about the athletic kid from Indiana. I’m in a cab so I don’t feel like looking his name up until I get home. I like his potential more than Calloway’s.
I like Troup too, but don’t know if he’s got NT potential. How about Cam Thomas from UNC, a bit of a bigger prospect?
In the end, I wouldn’t be overly disappointed. I just like other players better.
~K
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by Kurupt on Jan 29, 2010 11:52 PM EST via mobile reply actions
though I’m obviously still voting for the last choice. Its too big of a softball.
I put those in for you and Joe. I am disappointed that he went in a different direction with his vote.
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don’t take it personally, but I too just couldn’t resist the last choice :-)
most of my posts get deleted :(
I am saving my you suck vote for when it really matters
I assume you are going to do your all dark horse draft again :-)
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i like it
a very good all-around draft, but i’m also pretty drunk so take it for what its worth. yeah.
You had me at McClain… you have to take the best guy in the first, if their isn’t a tackle or QB you without a doubt see as a 10 year starter at 9… you must have figured those players were gone…. good choice with LB. I can see the bills makign a bunch of trades though … i have a feeling we will have more picks when all said and done… can’t wait
Still waiting for the playoffs.... Go Bills 2010 !!!!
I say it's damn near perfect.
A RB with our second pick. Takes alot of ?alls to publish that. Apparently, you have them. Thank you for not including T.T. in your draft, you would only satisfy all our 20 year old rumblers. A RB with the second pick. I am sorry for repeating myself here, but you hit something that many have ignored because of the O-Line and LB deficiencies. Brian did post something on RB’s last week and I liked the idea he had sent out. I am not sure about another Cal RB but definately a speed, outside guy that can catch. Sounds like a second rounder to me. Nice Job. Rec’d.
Is it really average talent or just poor coaching, how important is depth and experience.
I've wanted a speedy RB for years now
This offense is so lacking in the big play department. Lee Evans is the only guy who has the potential to even make a big play and that’s only if he’s beaten his defender on a fly route. This offense is desperate for playmakers and adding a guy like Best would not be a bad move.
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"As the governor of Louisiana once said, the only way Chris Kelsay can lose his job is if he got caught in bed with a dead girl or a live boy."
I think if the Bills ran more slant routes with Evans you would see more big play ability. The TD against the Jets is a perfect example of this. I think Evans is not being used to his full potential.
But I agree on a fast RB. I think the NFL is going/already heading in that direction. At least two running backs. And one of which being a smaller faster back that can stretch the LBs away from the middle of the field and catch passes and screens.
by BillsfanDan on Jan 30, 2010 12:13 PM EST up reply actions
Overall seems good
don’t mind the Best pick, but I think in round 2 Eric Decker would be more of a BPA — of course this is for obvious, non-biased reasons.
Draft Eric Decker in the 2nd!!! Eric Decker > Golden Tate
forgot to mention, seems good even from a 4-3 standpoint.
Draft Eric Decker in the 2nd!!! Eric Decker > Golden Tate
by NordicBillsfan on Jan 30, 2010 1:19 AM EST up reply actions
Why are you assuming that we are going to a 3-4?
just because we picked up a linebacker coach that had a DL title at G Tech and somehow was spun into the OLB coach for the Bills?
Also, before mocks are started what are your free agents, I would think that makes a pretty large difference in a draft decision…
BTW I actually like your draft
just don’t get the assumption of a 3-4 change when you aren’t making any predictions about combines and pro days.
First, it looks like they are making the switch. They may not which of course which would totally change a whopping 1 pick. If they stay with the 4-3 I would choose somebody else in round 6 instead of Antonio Coleman. He is the only one who is scheme dependent.
Second, I am not a big believer in doing the whole FA list and Mock list. It just makes for a huge post. You are right if I had the Bills signing a veteran QB and LT some would love this draft. Just look at the mock as the players taken. That is how I wrote it up. Again this is very early I know there are flaws and I am not by any means saying that this should be taken as gospel.
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Sireric,
Whenever you mock a draft, all I can think is – “Josh Johnson, 4th Round.” It’s going to be my epitaph.
Actually it was round 3. And tell me who would you rather have right now..Josh Johnson or Chris Ellis?
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by sireric on Jan 30, 2010 10:37 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
There’s just no way Jahvid Best should or would be the pick there. This team doesn’t need another RB; we need to strengthen the O-line and D-line and then get a capable QB (not a project like LeFevour). I like value, don’t get me wrong, but I like to combine value and need even more. This was, FWIW., also what Nix said during the Round Table at the Bills Pregame Show before the game against the Pats, where he was interviewed by Chris Brown and Rich Gentzler.
My mock draft, at this point, looks like this:
1. round – Bryan Bulaga, OT, Iowa
2. round – Brandon Spikes, ILB, Florida
3. round – Arthur Jones, DE (in the 3-4 scheme), Syracuse
4. round – Cam Thomas, NT, North Carolina
Trade next year’s first round pick for Kevin Kolb of the Eagles
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by BillsfanfromDenmark on Jan 30, 2010 10:25 AM EST reply actions 1 recs
This reminds me of the draft I did last year when I had William Moore in the second round and I get killed for taking a safety in the second round…oh and the Bills took a safety in the second round.
We have two good running backs? Are you sure? Just because we probably can’t trade Marshawn what makes you think he will be available to play? Just because he is still under contract for the Bills doesn’t mean he will be playing. If the Bills don’t get a safety net for if when Marshawn screws up again they are fools.
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Lynch is the saftey net. Freddie is the starter. I am not saying we might not need a RB, but
we can always pick one up if we have to. I can’t think of an easier need to fill than RB.
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So when Lynch gets suspended before the season starts who do we turn to if Freddie gets injured?
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Ask me then....I don't know who will be available
How many teams are 3 deep with starting caliber RBs? We can’t afford to be one of them….to many holes.
"Do you even hear how totally bat sh!t insane you sound?" - Archer
Jets – Jones/Washington/Greene
Cowboys – Barber/Jones/Choice
Those are just two off the top of my head. Feel free to feel that way. i completely disagree with you. RB IS A NEED!!! I consider it a hole.
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so you want to be 3 deep at RB, one of the easiest positons to fill in the NFL?
How deep are we at LT? QB? DE? even C? Sure, you can say RB is a need, but then LT and QB are uber-needs :-)
"Do you even hear how totally bat sh!t insane you sound?" - Archer
Here is the difference. You are counting Lynch. I am not. I don’t consider this team two deep right now because i have already written off Lynch.
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Not to mention
Injury to either Lynch or Jackson. God forbid.
Is it really average talent or just poor coaching, how important is depth and experience.
Yeah, I get that you have written Lynch off, but
I don’t think the Bills can afford to do the same….to many current holes without projecting new ones. Counting on him to be the backup RB isn’t nearly as risky as counting on him to be the starter. If we don’t get the O-line taken care of, we could have O.J. at RB and it wouldn’t matter.
"Do you even hear how totally bat sh!t insane you sound?" - Archer
Let's just say that not everyone is looking for a QB high in the draft as others.
Factor in the fact that we will be running the ball 65% of the time. Which means alot of carries fro Freddy and Marshawn. Put that in over a 16 game schedule we really can’t afford not to draft a RB. Why not grab one in the top three rounds where we should get a good choice. There is not a Manning or Rothlesberger out there but there maybe a few Johnsons and Rice’s. Nothing wrong with Eric’s thought process at all.
Is it really average talent or just poor coaching, how important is depth and experience.
Convinced!
Just wondering why your “convinced” that Nix will choose BPA over “need”? That said I like your picks!!
In this scenario, they would have Butler, Calloway, Bell, and either Scott or Meredith on the roster. Let them play out the preseason and let the chips fall where they may.
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The only way I don't take McClain is
is Suh or McCoy (DT’s) fall to us at #9. With that being said and if McClain falls down the board to say 12 – 16. Then why do we over pay for the kid. I still want him and believe he is worthy of a #9 but we are talking about 5-8M dollars here. How do we trade down to say 14 and still get McClain and pick up a later pick in say the fourth or fifth round?
Is it really average talent or just poor coaching, how important is depth and experience.
Thanks for the names
I admit that I’m not a draft person and in fact, find the whole big deal it’s made out to be by NFL fans as wildly absurd. I used to watch the first day of the draft as an excuse for afternoon drinking on an early Spring Saturday, but they took that away from me so I probably won’t even watch this year. I do, however, appreciate the little write-ups on these players as they give me something to recall if Buffalo actually ends up drafting any of these guys (I only recall McClain and Best from their college careers)
…Just one question: What has you convinced that Nix will automatically draft the best player available regardless of position? I didn’t like the Nix hire for the most pafrt, but the one thin g I DID love was that he said that winning wasn’t all that difficult to figure out: you need a QB. I’m really hoping Nix goes out of his way to land a franchise QB that we can start grooming now (whoever he believes that is), rather than passively trying to get by at the position like the previous regime attempted. I’m hoping that Nix isn’t a “best available player” type of GM and realizes that it’s time to gamble on a blue chip QB and if we fail, we try again until we get it right.
Aaron Maybin is Chris Ellis 2.0.
Just one question: What has you convinced that Nix will automatically draft the best player available regardless of position?
This team has so many holes that he could very easily draft BPA and fill a hole every time. It’s not that hard.
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this is true
But at least in his presser, Nix seemed to indicate that as far as holes go, they’re not all created equal…especially when it comes to the QB position…I really hope he meant it.
Aaron Maybin is Chris Ellis 2.0.
You hit 3 players that I would love to have on the roster next year: McClain, Lefevour and Roosevelt.
Better chance of Brohm being ready to start next year then LeFevour
"Do you even hear how totally bat sh!t insane you sound?" - Archer
When you going to learn?
Unless you are taking someone along the lines of Adrian Peterson…YOU DO NOT TAKE A RB IN THE FIRST 2 ROUNDS. Good OL’s makes average RB look good. Not vice versa.
When are you going to learn?
Read the whole post before making comments like this.
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Yeah, taking Chris Johnson in the first round when they already had plenty of RBs on the roster sure worked out poorly for the Titans.
by Future Considerations on Jan 30, 2010 1:39 PM EST up reply actions
I did and the pick still does not make any sense even in a mock draft.....
Even Chan realizes that RB is not a hole we need to fill in the 2nd round. Well I hope. We have much bigger needs.
Lynch and Maghee picks set us back years.
Those two picks alone did not set this team back. I’m sorry but two draft picks even first rounders do not set a team back years by themselves. Also, both of those guys had multiple 1,000 yard rushing seasons for the Bills…not sure how exactly they set this team back.
If you have the opportunity to draft a great talent like Best you do it, plain and simple.
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Are you serious? Have you seen our record in the past 10 years? Where did it get us? You pick a stud RB in the first two rounds as icing on the cake. We do not even have flour yet. Chan better realize that a good OL and DL win football games, not weapons. We need to rebuild and that starts w the line of scrimmage.
When Marshawn gets traded we will have a 3rd, 7th and prob a 4th to show for 2 1st round RB’s.
If you’re laying the blame of the last ten years at the feet of running backs I think you’re missing the bigger picture of the lack of talent at virtually every other position. If you want to argue that it was one position, Rob Johnson and J.P. Losman set this franchise back ten years way before McGahee, Lynch, and Travis Henry did.
When Marshawn gets traded we will have a 3rd, 7th and prob a 4th to show for 2 1st round RB’s.
And a bunch of Pro Bowls, 1000 yard seasons, and touchdowns.
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by MattRichWarren on Jan 30, 2010 1:33 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Well I am more interested in a SB or just a playoff game. Those two picks are just a snapshot of the incompetence of our organization. We are becoming the laughing stock of the league. We have zero direction and I am tired of our fans supporting an organization that is content with mediocrity. We deserve better.
We need to rebuild and that starts with the line of scrimmage. Would you agree that it is easier to find a RB in the late rounds or a FA than a stud left or right Tackle?
I understand that you want the playoffs but McGahee was part of a playoff team in Baltimore. McGahee, Henry, Lynch are all good enough to be playoff backs. Not one team is put on the shoulders of the running back to go to the playoffs. To say that they are a snapshot of incompetence is missing the forest for the trees. The misses on McCargo, Losman, Erik Flowers, Mike Williams and a bunch of other guys are why we haven’t been to the playoffs. Not the RBs. Those four alone are four misses at some of the most crucial positions – the trenches and QB.
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by MattRichWarren on Jan 31, 2010 9:59 AM EST up reply actions
DT
I always say go with the strength of the draft, and last year i thought we did a good job with the inside o-line talent. this year it is the defensive line. it goes beyond suh and mccoy, though they would be spectacular. i replace best with a d-tackle, but there is d-end talent out there too and with schobel reportedly on the fence and kelsay/denney still on the team i definately see that as a strong pick/likelihood as well. also. love love love iupati. if he’s around anywhere close to the second round i hope we go get him!
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by Brian Galliford on Jan 30, 2010 1:16 PM EST reply actions
Oh, and on a more serious note – I’d be doing backflips in the streets if we landed McClain and Best. Two of my favorite prospects, even considering Best’s injury concerns. I also really like the John Estes pick, though I don’t know he’ll last that long.
Dan LeFevour is getting WAY too much love in these parts. As a Round 5 pick, he’s pretty good value, but I don’t think he’ll ever be a starting quarterback in this league. If Buffalo picks him, I’ll absolutely give him the benefit of the doubt, though.
Antonio Coleman is not a very good prospect. He’s not a very good pass rusher; in fact, I don’t think he’ll be able to do it. To me, he looks more like a 3-4 ILB that can thump and blitz on occasion. I wouldn’t take him before the 7th round – very overrated because of his production, which does make him draft-worthy.
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by Brian Galliford on Jan 30, 2010 1:21 PM EST up reply actions
I like the position by round.
This is why I rec’d Eric’s post. I can’t support or defend many of the names, but I thought he addressed the need basis very well. We still need to watch the Schoebel situation. Perry got the guys to think about run blocking towards the end, there was improvement. Fitzgerald played differently after his benching to Edwards, and there will be a couple FA signings as well.
Is it really average talent or just poor coaching, how important is depth and experience.
Brian you told me last year that our line was going to be ok. It was not OK, it was pathetic. How can you say you want Best when he is most dangerous in space?
I can remember a handful of holes our line produced this year. Freddy’s shiftiness and patients got him his yards.
Patience is waiting. Patients are what doctors have.
I like imaging a bunch of people in those backless gowns running around, engaging defenders.
I didn’t say I wanted Best. I said I think he’s going to be an excellent pro.
We’ll never know just how “OK” our line might have been last year, because the line I thought would be OK played 6 quarters together.
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by Brian Galliford on Jan 31, 2010 9:16 AM EST up reply actions
I especially like the “Your” an idiot instead of “You’re”, Brian. And the 1 instead of the ! makes a great touch as well. :-)
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by MattRichWarren on Jan 30, 2010 1:34 PM EST up reply actions
LB’s are a dime a dozen, as are RB’s in my opinion. I believe it’s easier to plug in a guy like Fred Jackson into a lineup, than it is Jason Scott.
Look at the Jets’ OL. I think every starter was a 1st round draft pick. My opinion would be to draft the best OL or DL in the first round, unless your franchise QB is there. I just do not think a good LB or RB will change our losing ways. However, if we were tough up front or had a franchise QB, then I believe our team will have a much better chance of winning on Sunday.
Look at the Jets’ OL. I think every starter was a 1st round draft pick
Only 4 of the five are 1st rounders. Also I hate it when they bring that up during the games. As if simply being drafted in the 1st round automatically means good. Do I really have to run down the list of first round bust o-lineman? Damian Woody is average at best and D’Brickashaw Ferguson is an okay LT. Faneca and Mangold are very good, but just because Damian Woody was drafted as a center a decade ago in the first round doesn’t mean he is a great RG now.
LB’s are a dime a dozen, as are RB’s in my opinion.
So who would you rather have, Patrick Willis or Keith Ellison? Adrien Peterson or Xavier Omon? When you have a chance to get a top player at any position you go for it.
No weekend spent pantsless is a wasted weekend.
So would you rather have Oher or Bell? Or Loadholt or chambers?
That mentality got us into this position. Best available works for teams that do not have an extensive number of holes to fill.
That is not a philosophy I can get behind. This team is so devoid of top flight talent that BPA is filling a need. We have mediocre and good talent but what seperates us from virtually every good team is we don’t have any elite players on offense or defense. Byrd played elite this year but you’d hardly call him an elite player yet.
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by MattRichWarren on Jan 31, 2010 10:05 AM EST up reply actions
Hahahah....welcome aboard Matt
This team is so devoid of top flight talent that BPA is filling a need.
I never thought I would hear those words come out of your mouth :-)
"Do you even hear how totally bat sh!t insane you sound?" - Archer
Top end talent. :-)
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by MattRichWarren on Feb 1, 2010 8:19 PM EST up reply actions
Point taken, but...
Look at the Jets’ OL. I think every starter was a 1st round draft pick.
There is some merit to this line of thinking, though it’s a bit too dramatic. Buffalo was at a point where they didn’t commit higher draft choices to offensive linemen. So, while we don’t need to commit to picking three offensive linemen the next three years in the first round, we do need to commit assets.
Take the Patriots as a case in point. Mankins was a first round pick, Vollmer and Light were second rounders, Kaczur was a third rounder, Koppen was a 5th rounder, and Neal an UDFA.
Buffalo needs to think about picking OL high the next few drafts. Your selection of Calloway is a good example.
Though I do disagree. While I’d love Davis, I’d go for Bulaga at 9th if he and Okung were gone.
Yes,
Do I really have to run down the list of first round bust o-lineman?
And then I will run down the list of first round lineman who are starters, and we can see whose is longer ;-)
"Do you even hear how totally bat sh!t insane you sound?" - Archer
Thats not the point. The point is that being a first round pick doesn’t guarantee that you are good.
No weekend spent pantsless is a wasted weekend.
OK....tell you what
Let’s start a rookies only fantasy league. I will take only first round rookies for my team and you take only 3rd rounders. I have never play FF before, but I like my odds :-)
"Do you even hear how totally bat sh!t insane you sound?" - Archer
One more rule.....pants are required :-)
"Do you even hear how totally bat sh!t insane you sound?" - Archer
awkward.....haha
"you just have to know there's always going to be adversity. None of these games are going to be easy. Nothing will be given to us" - Paul Posluszny
by poz on Feb 2, 2010 1:30 AM EST up reply actions
As if simply being drafted in the 1st round automatically means good.
Part of my whole philosophy on trading down right there. I’m going to use this quote in my next dump.
DJO gets it.
The Jets OL protected a young QB and it helps prove that a good OL can win games with an average(well for now anyways) QB.
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In defense of sireric, he did address the OL and there was alot of OL casualties last year. I’m the first to agree you win with your lines, but that’s being addressed. Also since when have good RB become “dime a dozen” ?
by buffalobacker on Jan 30, 2010 2:51 PM EST up reply actions
because they don’t last. A RB’s career is short. So if the Bills continue to take RB’s then the average life span of their team is shortened. I would much rather have a lineman because #1, they play long careers at a very high level and #2, they can make others around them play at a higher level.
Someone mentioned Adrian Peterson, but the Vikings were never going to the Superbowl because of AP. Getting Favre changed their fortunes. Without Favre, they remind me of Barry Sanders Lions.
In fact, I can’t remember 1 Super Bowl winning team in the modern era that rode a RB like a Chris Johnson/Steven Jackson type (in which the offense revolved entirely around them). Can anyone?
Normally I am right there with you, but I think you are looking at this mock in a vaccum and not the big picture. I believe that Wood will be back and playing by the start of the season. He may need a few games before he is back to full strength but he will get there. Wood + Levitre give the Bills two pillars to start with. A guy like Calloway could sit behind Butler until ready and a guy like Estes (I think Brian is right and I did under value him so lets say for arguements sake that he gets picked in the 4th round instead) could sit behind Hangartner and that could give the Bills 4 out of the 5 spots filled. Yes I know that LT is one of if not the most important spot but I would rather take a stud LB or RB then reach for a guy just because he fills a need. Would you rather have the best LB in the draft or the 5th best LT?
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Well thats just common sense. If there are 4 T’s off the board by 9 I will be floored. If that is the case that means we would have our choice of QB’s.
Dont get me wrong, I love McClain and I like him at 9 but fast freddy is more than capable for the next few years. Yeah he is 30 but his body is alot younger. If we get a stud T our OL could be solid for 5 plus years.
McClain is a LB Freddie is a RB. I had Best in the second round. I think I know what you meant but it was a little confusing to follow there. Injuries happen all the time. I am sure you know that i have zero faith in Lynch. If Freddie gets injured which is something that can happen to anybody regardless of how young their legs are, i wouldn’t want to be in the position of having to count on Lynch.
No weekend spent pantsless is a wasted weekend.
I hear what you’re saying about “best value”, but that is entirely subjective isn’t it?
What I mean is, drafting in hindsight is easy. For example, if you knew for sure that McClain would be the next Patrick Willis and not Aaron Curry, then I would agree with you about taking McClain first. But that’s also going with the assumption that Brian Bulaga is not the next great 3rd LT taken in the first round, ala Ryan Clady. So, if the question is would I want Clady or Curry, the answer is Clady. But we don’t know who McClain or Bulaga will be for that matter.
And that’s what makes the NFL draft the best sports weekend in April….and I’m a golf fan.
we shored up the middle of our line last draft, but I want T’s. Ralph will not pay for a FA T so we have to address it in the draft regardless if it is the BPA and odds are that you will find a better T in the 1st two rounds.
You gotta change the name brother! It brings back the hurt!
Worst free agent blunder by the Bills…ever. Letting Pat Williams walk. Man that was bad:)
Thats why I keep it. To remember the good ol days. I luv that guy. And they thought he was on the downside of his career, he was just warming up.
And your a golfer, I think we will get along just fine. I am a golf pro of a local country club.
I think you would agree but I am completely done being an optimistic Bills fan. This site needs a little negativity.
I hear ya. I love the fact that you’re a golf pro man. I need help.
And in fact, I need a club to join too. You must play them all, what’s the best in the area in your opinion and why?
my email is msangeorge@hotmail.com. I will be happy to lead you in the right direction. I have to go to the bandits game. ha
Nice job
I like this draft on the whole, especially since it finds players for most of our key needs.
I like the choice of McClain as he will be a dominant player in the league and it’d be nice if our linebacking corps had a nasty tackling machine added to it.
However, the one pick I’m not sure about is LeFevour. I also think we will draft a late-round QB, but I’m not sure about LeFevour. Personally I quite like the prospect of Zac Robinson or Jarrett Brown.
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