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A Treatise on the Bills Defensive Situation

Much has been said recently about switching to the 3-4 defense with a new coaching staff.  Out with the old and in with the new seems to be the new MO among many Bills fans.  However bad our offense may have been, or however bad our defensive scheme may have operated in the past years, change simply for the sake of change is not desirable.

 

As it stands, at the end of the regular season, the Bills rank 16th at 20.4 in points allowed, 19th in yards allowed at 340.6, 2nd in passing yards allowed at 184.2, and 30th in rushing yards allowed at 156.3 yds/g. 

http://www.nfl.com/teams/buffalobills/profile?team=BUF

Last year, in these respective categories, the Bills finished 14th at 21.4, 14th at 326.1, 13th at 204.4, and 22nd at 121.6.  Taking a look at this, our PPG went from 21.4 to 20.4, our total yards per game allowed went from 326.1 to 340.6, our passing yards per game changed from 204.4 to 184.2, and our rushing yards allowed per game rose from 121.6 to 156.3 yards per game.      

Our points allowed per game decreased, along with our passing yards allowed.  Our rushing yards allowed rose dramatically, causing our total yards to rise as well.  The primary downfall of our defense this year was quite obvious.  Our run containment was atrocious (and our offense continuously went 3-and-out).

Instead of looking at how we as a team may fix this, many fans instead are deluding themselves that switching to a 3-4 will solve all of our problems-if not now then two years down the road.  Heck, Green Bay had a quick turnaround, why can't we?  The answer to our problems is simple.  We need more talent at the OLB position and at DE.  OLB is not as much of an issue.  Kawika Mitchell, while having his own issues and flaws, is still a solid (but not spectacular) linebacker.  Losing KM to the IR on 10/13 hamstrung our defense.  This was exacerbated by losing Pozluszny for four games at the beginning of the season (and eventually his replacement, Marcus Buggs), as well as losing the unspectacular-but-solid-backup Keith Ellison a month later - 11/20.  With no depth at OLB our run containment started to suffer.  From the season opener until KE was put on IR, our rushing yards allowed in each game grew larger: 73, 57, 222, 250, 171, 318, 116, and 182.  For the worst of those games we were without Poz manning the middle. 

Many of the teams that ran for ridiculous yardage against the Bills had two things in common.  They broke off for one or two big plays a game, and they completely shut down our offense.  Injuries are a part of the game, but without our top men playing the majority of the year together, it is quite obvious our defensive scheme (or any for that matter) will not work as well.  Next year we will get our two OLBs back, whether fully healed or not.  Assuming KM can come back and play up to his standards, this unit is lacking only one more LB.  Whether that involves acquiring a MLB through the draft/FA and bumping Poz to OLB, or acquiring an OLB doesn't matter (Rolando McClain comes to mind, maybe Sean Lee in the 2nd).  One more is needed, relegating KE to being a very solid backup. 

The second culprit behind our terrible run containment is on the defensive line, more specifically, the ends.  An upgrade is needed here to help this unit improve.  Whether or not Maybin panned out this year, or does in the future, we would still be in need of a new defensive end opposite one of the Aarons.  Maybin will never play opposite Schobel, as he was brought in to be his successor at RDE.  What we need is what we've been searching for this last decade.  A competent LDE to play opposite Schobel.  Kelsay had a fantastic year compared to his prior work, but he is average at best (on his good days). 

For the Bills' sake there are a few good options at this position.  Whether or not anybody feels like spending another high pick on DE two years straight, Derrick Morgan out of Georgia Tech might just do the trick.  At 6-4 270 pounds, he has good size and should be able to hold up against the run fairly well.  There is always the possibility of trading back, or even snagging someone like Corey Wootton of Northwester in the 2nd (or late first if he rises prior to the draft).  Unlike the questions that surrounded Maybin, there are plenty of sizeable DEs we could plug in place of Kelsay (whom we could keep as depth).           

In this Bills fan's opinion, DE and LB (MLB or OLB) are the two major needs on the defense.  We could fix our defense with some very promising prospects in the early rounds (obviously this changes if we have a shot at Defensive Need#3 (DT) - such as Gerald McCoy falling to us).  However, I'm not here to bore you with my mock draft or favorite players we should draft (except of course with the exception of wide receiver - DRAFT ERIC DECKER!!!)

This long rant/ramble/poorly-strung-together-thought is about why we SHOULDN'T switch to the 3-4.  We have no NT (Stroud is already diminishing in his 4-3 role).  We have no backup NT in case our nose tackle goes down [see Jenkins, Kris; Wilfork, Vince].  NT are already a rare and price commodity.  We can't assume our DTs can readily switch over to DE (leaving us with more holes).  Many like to claim Aaron Maybin or Aaron Schobel could switch to rushing OLB, mostly because Maybin is "undersized".  Maybin played DE in college, and switching positions, no matter how good or fast you were in college, isn't a given [see Gholston, Vernon].  Aaron Schobel is old, slowing down, and I'm going to presume unwilling to learn a new scheme at his age after 9 years of losing.  Next, we need to address LB.  We might have a decent LB we could use as a rushing OLB.  If not, add that to an ever-expanding list of draft needs.  We found out this year (through extremely bad luck) that we don't have the LB depth for 4-3.  Needing one more competent LB by switching to the 3-4 is not going to help our problems.  If anything, it sets us back even more.  Switching to the 3-4 will not help us against the run if we don't have a NT, and two talented run-containing DEs.  It will work no better than the 4-3/Tampa-2.  All it will do is possibly confuse the quarterback with multiple blitzing schemes.  As we could see this year, under one year of tutelage from Bob Sanders, our D-Line provided much more pressure than in previous years, ergo those multple blitzings schemes aren't needed.  This, in a sense, makes a switch to the 3-4 unnecessary.  Some will say we don't need to be competitive on defense next year if we're switching to the 3-4.  I agree, and wouldn't expect us to be.  However, with one more DE and one more LB, rather than blowing up our entire defensive front we could be very competitive in the 4-3.  With all of our returning vets and these two additions, we could be borderline top 10 (if not actually in the top 10).  Minnesota, along with Indianapolis, are prime examples of working 4-3s.  While Indy might have the smaller defense that works in the dome, Minnesotas defensive line and linebackers are pretty massive.  And thus the point of this piece of junk post is revealed. 

Why on earth, if we're so close to being great on defense (or good, for the pessimists) would switching to the 3-4 even be considered sane or desirable? 

Just another great fan opinion shared on the pages of BuffaloRumblings.com.

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I think part of the reason some people want to move to the 3-4 is because a lot of the good defenses in the league use it effectively. Also, we see it at least 6 times a year against our divisional opponents and “if it works against us, why not try it ourselves?”

Personally I am with you with sticking with the 4-3. However I am a proponent of the 4-3 we used effectively when we had a top 5 D a number of years back. This included TWO enormous DTs. Pat Williams and Ted Washington. then plug in Sam Adams a couple years later. When you have this set up on the D-line, it effectively chews up 3/5ths of the offensive line, at least. Thats why Minnesota is so good. They have Jared Allen going one v. one almost all game to wreak havoc on the QB.

While I do believe Ellison needs to be replaced, this scheme with the two fatties up front opens up the LBs so much that they dont have to worry about the O-line reaching the second level to block them. Even a small LB like Ellison can do damage when no one is in his way.
 
As I see

by BillsfanDan on Jan 5, 2010 8:25 AM EST reply actions  

whoa, sorry

As I see it, the Bills need a DT, DE and a LB. It doesn’t matter the order in which these guys come because it will take one year to learn the D and put together the pieces for an elite Defense. But for the time being, if by some miracle we end up with McCoy, we can move Spencer Johnson out to DE also. Thats a huge D-line that can stop the run. Then pick up an DE somewhere ( I hear Osi’s name come up a bit, which would be nice, but there is no way he isn’t a Giant next year) and then a OLB, or vice versa.

I agree that we are not too far off from being a great D, we just need to fill in the correct pieces.

by BillsfanDan on Jan 5, 2010 8:32 AM EST up reply actions  

Ur right that blue print won a super bowl in baltimore in 2000

tony sirgussa and sam adams were there that year…with two NT’s u can dominate the maiddle and elimnate all push in the run game u can double both of them with three guys on the interior of ur oline… would u be willing to draft Terrence Cody to be our stud in the middle as high as we are or try to trade down and snag him in the mid first it might make all the difference up front

"The only yardstick for success our society has is being a champion. No one remembers anything else." John Madden

by BRIANMULHALL on Jan 5, 2010 8:36 AM EST up reply actions  

if you can trade down to get him that would be a home run i think. any time u can get more picks and snag the guy you want, thats huge.

by BillsfanDan on Jan 5, 2010 8:51 AM EST up reply actions  

i think we have the corners to play more press man

we could have the saftey in the box and play more man free and then see if that helps the run defense but we would need a good SS to help in the box…playing zone all day with no pressure is just asking to get picked apart by decent QB’s

"The only yardstick for success our society has is being a champion. No one remembers anything else." John Madden

by BRIANMULHALL on Jan 5, 2010 8:32 AM EST reply actions  

Good write....

however, the extremely offensive person I can be at times :-)…. To all of the posters here screaming for defensive changes/personnel, what’s the sense in it?
If the offense STILL goes 3 and out, what good would it be if the entire D were Pro-bowl material?
I haven’t looked at final season stats yet, but know I’ll be harping on it all off season, but think of it this way….
If the offense stays on the field for just 6 more plays per game, what should be the affect??
Time of possession in our favor
More offensive yardage
More Points
Less time D on field
Less plays for the opponent (subtract those 6 plays from them)
less point for opponent
less yardage against our D
***********
Did I miss anything??? I know that’s an over simplification of the real world, but I think it shows my main point….
Fix the offense first and foremost… IF a top D player falls to us, grab him obviously!!! But focus should be offensive players…..
JMHO…. That I’ll keep harping on so I can prove how offensive I truly am!!! :-)….

by Cinga on Jan 5, 2010 10:44 AM EST reply actions  

Did I miss anything???

Playing with a lead results in more chances for QB sacks.

Go Bills! I mean 'stay' Bills...

by Undee on Jan 5, 2010 12:18 PM EST up reply actions  

I stand corrected...

and if I my add off your idea, interceptions…

by Cinga on Jan 5, 2010 12:22 PM EST up reply actions  

…2 point safeties to seal victory over division rivals?

Go Bills! I mean 'stay' Bills...

by Undee on Jan 5, 2010 1:04 PM EST up reply actions  

LOL!!!!

isn’t it amazing how fixing the offense just gave us a top 5 defense????

:-)……

by Cinga on Jan 5, 2010 1:07 PM EST up reply actions  

Very offensive. I agree that boosting the O would be a priority over anything other than a “can’t miss” LB.

Go Bills! I mean 'stay' Bills...

by Undee on Jan 5, 2010 2:06 PM EST up reply actions  

lol I’ve been trying to say the same thing. That’s why I’m adamantly against drafting anyone on defense unless its Rolando McClain. However, in the OT vs QB debate, I stand by drafting on OT.

by jerseybuckeye on Jan 5, 2010 11:26 AM EST reply actions  

i sorely want a new tackle as well...

but I don’t know about Derrick Morgan. 12 sacks this year (18 career in 3 years) is pretty tempting when it’s coming from a nice 275lb bruising DE who would be perfect for the 4-3.

http://espn.go.com/ncf/player/profile?playerId=232238

I think as far as offense goes, both Edwards or Fitz would have looked good this year if we could keep them on their feet, so OT should be the primary offensive pick. Bell I think could still fill in at LT, meaning we could probably wait till the 2nd to either try and pick up a LT, or more realistically a RT and bump butler in.

by NordicBillsfan on Jan 5, 2010 12:08 PM EST up reply actions  

Georgia Tech

one year wonders bother me… Till I see his combine, I’ll shy away…
Also.. Why do I keep seeing the suggestion of moving Butler inside again??? If Wood returns full strength, it would give us Hang, Levitre, Wood, and Incognito to fill 3 positions already… Few teams (or none) could boast that kind of interior and depth even without moving Butler into the mix…. Leave Brad at RT, draft or sign a LT…
For that matter… Bring back Rusty Jones and maybe Bell can stay healthy enough to develop!!!!

by Cinga on Jan 5, 2010 12:35 PM EST up reply actions  

Hang is an consisent starter who is average at best

I’d much rather see an interior of Levitre-Wood-Butler and don’t want to count on a headcase like Incongnito to be anything more than a backup.

by NordicBillsfan on Jan 5, 2010 12:48 PM EST up reply actions  

And sometimes

those “headcases” are some of the best at the game… See Lambert, Jack… Dobler, Conrad… Romanowski, Bill… Rumbler, Cinga…. Need I continue?
I like the idea of ?; Levitre; Wood; Incognito; Butler…. Hang would be a great backup for all 3 interior positions. But quite frankly, who the heck is grading him so poorly anyway considering the mess he was surrounded by, and the fact he played hurt a good part of the year???? Heck, I’d still be spinning like a top with the revolving door he tried to make line calls on…..

by Cinga on Jan 5, 2010 1:05 PM EST up reply actions  

At least 2 tackles will already be off the board by the time we draft

I see DET, SEA definitely taking LTs with their first pick.
And I see WAS & CLE taking Claussen & Bradford

I think I prefer McClain over the 3rd QB or 3rd LT

Nothing left to say...

by keysh67 on Jan 5, 2010 1:49 PM EST up reply actions  

I think Detroit takes McCoy

Their defense is atrocious.

They drafted a Tackle in 2008 in Gosder Cherilus. They still have Jeff Backus and I think Jon Jansen (RT) at tackle too. That defense needs a ton of help, and I think that’s where they look in April.

~K
"As the governor of Louisiana once said, the only way Chris Kelsay can lose his job is if he got caught in bed with a dead girl or a live boy."

by Kurupt on Jan 5, 2010 2:38 PM EST up reply actions  

you're probably right

And I didn’t think of the Schwartz connection either. Being a Defensive minded coach he’ll want to fix that part this year after having spent his first round picks last year on offensive positions. I had McCoy going 3rd to TB but they may be in the market for a LT given that Penn & True blood are both FAs

Nothing left to say...

by keysh67 on Jan 5, 2010 3:30 PM EST up reply actions  

Cowher is still the front runner

It’s like when rookies sign their contracts, they always wait to see what the guy ahead of them gets to establish the price. Now that Tampa Bay has given Morris a vote of confidence (or more precisely they are not interested in paying Cowher the money he desires), then there’s Chicago that is sticking with Lovie and Angelo and Carolina who are sticking with Fox instead of buying him out (who could blame them after the great comeback in the second half of their season?)

So who exactly will give Cowher the big bucks? Washington seems committed to Shanny, so who is left? Houston might still be in play even though they seem to be sticking with Kubiac, in any case the question is: Are they willing to spend upwards of 10M per season?

Which bring me back to Cowher in Buffalo being a real possibility because Wilson is willing to spend the money. I think whats holding things up is the fact that Cowher is waiting for Shanny to get his contract before he commits, he wants to out-do Shanny and sign the biggest contract of the off season. If he has to coach in Buffalo, might as well be at the biggest price!

I think Cowher agrees by end of week, after Shanny signs with WAS.

Nothing left to say...

by keysh67 on Jan 5, 2010 1:44 PM EST reply actions  

I think Ralph would give Cowher the big bucks

Tampa wasn’t willing to go to the $5-6M per year range for him, but I think Ralph would do that in a heartbeat.

I’m not sure they even need to go up to $10M. Has Cowher ever said that’s what he wants? If the Bills offer him $7-8M per season, I’d have to believe he’d be highly interested. If they offer him the $5-6M, I doubt he would.

~K
"As the governor of Louisiana once said, the only way Chris Kelsay can lose his job is if he got caught in bed with a dead girl or a live boy."

by Kurupt on Jan 5, 2010 2:41 PM EST up reply actions  

Excellent Point!!!

Just searched for NFL coaching salaries, and came up with this line from Forbes….

Leading the NFL ranks are Chicago’s Lovie Smith and Tennessee’s Jeff Fisher, who make $5.5 million a year, the New York Giants’ Tom Coughlin ($5.25 million) and New England’s Bill Belichick ($5 million)
.
Linky thingy….
http://www.forbes.com/2009/05/13/highest-paid-coaches-business-sports-nba.html
Granted, Shanny still tops the list at 6 million from Denver, but it’s funny seeing the 10-11 million thing thrown around…

by Cinga on Jan 5, 2010 3:14 PM EST up reply actions  

the 10M is already out there

and after Shanny gets his $50M+ contract I doubt that Cowher would settle for much less

Nothing left to say...

by keysh67 on Jan 5, 2010 3:32 PM EST up reply actions  

Cowher would settle for less if he really like coaching.

also, I’m sure he’s smart enough to know there’s only a few inept and senile owners that would over pay for a coach. Dallas, Oakland, and Washington. One of those teams is in the process of filling their HC position, the other two are owned by meddlesome owners. He probably wouldn’t want to go to either of these three teams.

by NordicBillsfan on Jan 5, 2010 4:08 PM EST up reply actions  

But who says Shanny gets $50M+?

or $10M a season?

That was all speculation on what it’d take to get him to Buffalo.

I think $7M a season is what he’s looking at. Cowher should expect something similar, and if Ralph is really adamant about getting that big name, he very well could offer that to the chin.

~K
"As the governor of Louisiana once said, the only way Chris Kelsay can lose his job is if he got caught in bed with a dead girl or a live boy."

by Kurupt on Jan 5, 2010 5:32 PM EST up reply actions  

You're right, at this point it's just speculation

But Holmgren made 8.5M in his final season and the odds are Shanny and Cowher are looking for more.

But you’re right, untill the fat lady sings we won’t know what the amount will be. I can’t believe it’s gotten to this point but I do think it will end up in the 10M range. The owners make a lot of $$ so the big named coaches that have the potential to turn things around and bring home championships are just trying to get their cut.

I can only imagine how much money Kraft made with their three Superbowls, I would say that Bellichick was the main reason why Kraft made all that money. I never read anywhere where Kraft re-did Bellichicks contract. So really, coaches must grab as much as they can, when the can. After they are locked into their contracts it’s too late.

Nothing left to say...

by keysh67 on Jan 5, 2010 8:19 PM EST up reply actions  

Shanny is getting $7M per season

~K
"As the governor of Louisiana once said, the only way Chris Kelsay can lose his job is if he got caught in bed with a dead girl or a live boy."

by Kurupt on Jan 5, 2010 11:24 PM EST up reply actions  

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