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Reports: Bills headed to Minnesota to interview Frazier

WGRZ's Adam Benigni reported that the Buffalo Bills are working to set up an interview with Minnesota Vikings assistant head coach and defensive coordinator Leslie Frazier regarding the team's head coaching vacancy. FOXSports.com's Jay Glazer has since confirmed the report, adding that Bills brass will fly to Minnesota to conduct the interview. Vikings head coach Brad Childress told the Associated Press that Frazier's interview will take place on Thursday.

Per league rules, Buffalo must seek permission from the Vikings to interview Frazier. As Minnesota is currently in the midst of a bye week heading into their home divisional playoff game, any interview with Frazier must take place prior to this weekend, as he will be unable to interview for coaching positions again until after the Vikings are eliminated from the playoffs.

Frazier, 50, has spent the last three seasons in Minnesota, where he replaced current Pittsburgh head coach Mike Tomlin. Prior to that stint, he was a defensive coordinator in Cincinnati ('03, '04) and a defensive backs coach three separate times with Indianapolis, Philadelphia and the University of Illinois.

Bills GM Buddy Nix stressed the importance of previous head coaching experience at his introductory press conference, and while Frazier has never held that title at the professional level, he was the head coach at Trinity College from 1988 through 1996.

Earlier today, Mark Gaughan of The Buffalo News reported that Buffalo's head coaching search is expected to take a "couple of weeks." That could indicate that the Bills plan to interview more coordinators for playoff teams scheduled to play games this weekend.

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I am completely happy with the Bills taking a few weeks to interview several candidates. I mean honestly 2-3 weeks (which is during the playoffs) won’t really change anything, so I am just glad to see they aren’t just rushing through this

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by Ghetts on Jan 6, 2010 1:33 PM EST reply actions  

Nice

keep the interviews coming! Buddy Nix is my new hero.

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by dzil on Jan 6, 2010 1:33 PM EST reply actions  

As Minnesota is currently in the midst of a bye week heading into their home divisional playoff game, any interview with Frazier must take place prior to this weekend, as he will be unable to interview for coaching positions again until after the Vikings are eliminated from the playoffs.

They are allowed a second interview during the bye week before the Super Bowl if Minnesota makes it that far. He just can’t be hired until after the Vikings are eliminated.

by MattRichWarren on Jan 6, 2010 1:38 PM EST reply actions  

Clearly, I don’t think the Vikes are going to the Super Bowl. :)

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by Brian Galliford on Jan 6, 2010 1:39 PM EST up reply actions  

not a chance in hell

are the Vikes going to the Super Bowl! So much for Buddy Nix and his line we’ll go after 1A and then down the list. Apparently they are doing a comprehensive search now

MARVelous - "I went from America's team to North America's Team" Terrell Owens

by MARVelous on Jan 6, 2010 2:37 PM EST up reply actions  

last year

everyone said that about the cardinals. i don’t bilieve they have the secondary to beat some of those NFC teams, but any given sunday…

Later Losman!

by rockybillboa on Jan 6, 2010 2:42 PM EST up reply actions  

trust me

the Vikings are the Bills cousins….and if they do make the Super Bowl I might die of all the ass kissing everyone here in MPLS will do for #4 as well as the rest of the nation

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by MARVelous on Jan 6, 2010 2:51 PM EST up reply actions  

Bills and Vikes are the only two teams in the NFL to have gone to 4 SBs without winning one

Vikes will make the SB if Childress will just give Brett the keys to the car and go back into the house.

"The Bills have no playoff aspirations" – Dan Dierdorf

by Joe P. on Jan 6, 2010 3:21 PM EST up reply actions  

speaking of keys

when is TO gonna give the key to the city back. If he hasnt I take it hes resigning? If he stays with the team he can keep it till we get to the playoffs.

"you just have to know there's always going to be adversity. None of these games are going to be easy. Nothing will be given to us" - Paul Posluszny

by poz on Jan 6, 2010 3:31 PM EST up reply actions  

T.O. is currently using using it to prop open the front door while moving out

If anyone wants it, he will probably throw it in the bushes after he is done.

"The Bills have no playoff aspirations" – Dan Dierdorf

by Joe P. on Jan 6, 2010 7:00 PM EST up reply actions  

A bit puzzling

Nix made a definite point, expressed several times either in his speech or during questions-and-answers afterward that a primary concern of his was getting someone with head coaching experience. Maybe I read into that wrong, but I presumed he meant “NFL experience.” Apparently not (or he’s changed his tune) because now…..we keep hearing of the Bills interviewing or setting up interviews with offensive or defensive coordinators.

Where are the experienced guys Nix seemed to want…..or have they all expressed disinterest in the job?

by ccthemovieman on Jan 6, 2010 1:45 PM EST reply actions  

He does have 9 years as the first ever head coach of Trinity. If you’re looking at coaches who have only been a coordinator at the NFL level, also having experience as a head coach of any team is a big plus, even if it’s only a small college team.

Plus, he has experience building a team from scratch…

by Krenn on Jan 6, 2010 1:56 PM EST up reply actions  

Keep in mind, folks, that Buddy Nix was a head coach at a small-time college, too – UT-Chattanooga.

Experience is experience – I believe that’s how Nix approaches things.

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by Brian Galliford on Jan 6, 2010 2:00 PM EST up reply actions  

I don’t assume he meant NFL experience. I took it more as someone who is in charge of an operation.

And in some respects overseeing a college team could be more difficult that overseeing an NFL team (from an administrative, not technical, standpoint).

by Pistol on Jan 6, 2010 1:56 PM EST up reply actions  

+1. I assumed Nix was referring to the administrative/managerial experience that comes with being a former HC, not necessarily exclusive to the NFL

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by dzil on Jan 6, 2010 2:00 PM EST up reply actions  

Theres only so many qualified former HC's though

Cowher, Billick, and…?? Fassel? Blech. Haslett? Blecher. Marty? Retired. Dick Jauron? Haha!

If those guys turn the job down or aren’t a great fit, what else can we do? I’m sure Nix’s preference is an experienced guy, but he absolutely needs other options.

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by Kurupt on Jan 6, 2010 2:05 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

That could indicate that the Bills plan to interview more coordinators

Kind of contradicts what Nix said in his remarks. Also, I truly hope it’s not because we are being summarily turned down byt the very types Nix wanted.

by fansince60 on Jan 6, 2010 1:47 PM EST reply actions  

I don't see it that way....

From reports, Frazier was on his list of “who to interview” and it makes sense to do it now just in case Minny makes the show….
I’m with others on here… I’m glad to see Nix doing his job, check out a few qualified candidates, and pick the best one he thinks for the job, instead of the first one that wants it… Heck, I still hope he interviews the Hasletts/Riveras/Schots, etc of the world too before picking anyone, even if it is Cowher/Billick we end up with…
If your gonna do it… Do it right….

by Cinga on Jan 6, 2010 2:16 PM EST up reply actions  

oh I hope it's not that way also

just seems there have been little or no interviews with former HCs – except those that perhaps used the Bills position as leverage and nothing more, ie. Shanahan

by fansince60 on Jan 6, 2010 2:31 PM EST up reply actions  

Beggars can't be choosers

I think that Buddy Nix would prefer a candidate with head-coaching experience, he did not necessarily say NFL head-coaching experience. However, coaches with NFL HC experience aren’t exactly growing on trees and if he limits it to just coaches with previous HC experience we could overlook many good, qualified coaches in this world. Which is why I think they are taking their time and considering many candidates in varying positions around the league and beyond

B-B-B-Byrd Byrd Byrd, Byrd is the Wyrd!"

by willgarr15 on Jan 6, 2010 1:54 PM EST reply actions  

I will be happy if the Bills are casting a wide net for a head coach.

And they’re obviously serious about Frazier because they’ve already complied with the Rooney Rule.

by Pistol on Jan 6, 2010 1:57 PM EST reply actions  

Obviously Nix is someone who takes the bull by the horns. Hopefully he’s seeking a HC and coordinators that have the same approach. at any rate, it’s a refreshing departure for the Brandon/Wilson dart game.

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by dzil on Jan 6, 2010 2:04 PM EST reply actions  

I'm not a fan of Frazier.

He was put in a position where anyone could have had massive success IMO. I mean just look at the talent the Vikings have on defense. I mean that’s probably the most talented D in the league if you go on a position by position basis. I mean I know you cant knock a guy for succeeding with talented players,but I’m trying anyhow. Much rather have a guy like Zimmer who’s had success with a less talented defensive roster.

by mob16151 on Jan 6, 2010 2:11 PM EST reply actions  

Couldn’t you say the same thing about Mike Tomlin, though? This is why I keep saying that previous success and all that isn’t and shouldn’t be the way we define whether or not we like a candidate. Is Frazier compatible philosophically with Nix, capable of hiring a good staff and motivating players, and capable of making tough decisions in the off-season and on game days? That’s what matters.

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by Brian Galliford on Jan 6, 2010 2:23 PM EST up reply actions   3 recs

You could say the same thing about Tomlin.

But IMO hasn’t he been less impressive as a HC then Harbaugh? Yes Tomlin’s had success but I feel like it was just a case of him capitalizing on what Cowher left him. Anyway’s I’m not hugely impressed by Tomlin the HC.

by mob16151 on Jan 6, 2010 2:29 PM EST up reply actions  

Well, Tomlin’s won a championship. Then he rallied the troops in a down year and almost swung a playoff berth. I think he’s a hell of a coach.

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by Brian Galliford on Jan 6, 2010 2:30 PM EST up reply actions  

I think he's probably a beter HC then Frazier will ever be.

I’m a little leary of anyone who’s been fired by Marvin Lewis. It’s a phobia. lol

by mob16151 on Jan 6, 2010 2:35 PM EST up reply actions  

To expand a little bit more on the fired by the Bengals thing

Admittedly there was no talent in Cincy at the time. However theres not loads of alent in buffalo either on the defensive side of theball. So I guess that makes me leary of his ability to be succesful in Buffalo. And yes that’s probably short sighted and judgemental but it’s how I feel lol.

by mob16151 on Jan 6, 2010 2:38 PM EST up reply actions  

but hasn’t tomlin changed the whole identity of the steelers? Their defense has been constant, because of lebeau, but they no longer pound the rock….and theyve suffered because of it.

by quantumuprising on Jan 6, 2010 3:02 PM EST up reply actions  

one my best friends is a die hard Steelers fan

the way he tells it, he loves Tomlin as a motivator and as a guy who can spin the media well but he hates him as a playcaller and scheme-wise.

"you just have to know there's always going to be adversity. None of these games are going to be easy. Nothing will be given to us" - Paul Posluszny

by poz on Jan 6, 2010 3:34 PM EST up reply actions  

coincidentally

is the rest of your family as annoying as my buddy when the Steelers are winning?

"you just have to know there's always going to be adversity. None of these games are going to be easy. Nothing will be given to us" - Paul Posluszny

by poz on Jan 6, 2010 3:37 PM EST up reply actions  

Absolutely

When we beat the chiefs I called them up and said hahahahahahaha

by mob16151 on Jan 6, 2010 3:38 PM EST up reply actions  

hahahaah

you have no idea how nice it is not to have to listen to him for a whole off-season now that they aren’t in the playoffs!

"you just have to know there's always going to be adversity. None of these games are going to be easy. Nothing will be given to us" - Paul Posluszny

by poz on Jan 6, 2010 4:03 PM EST up reply actions  

I really like Tomlin

HE is extremely motivated and it rubs off on the players… I et missign the playoffs has him ready for training camp in February… he holds players accountable, and I would love a coach like him in Buffalo. He is one of my current favorites

Can't we get a winner.... Go Bills 2010 !!!!

by killascript on Jan 6, 2010 3:23 PM EST up reply actions  

They feed off of eachother

Coaching + Talent = success in this league. You need good coaches for your talent to realize its full potential and you need a certain amount of talent to be a successful coach. Which is the winning formula, coaching or players? I think they work hand in hand. If you look at all of the great coaches in the history of this league, they had some of the greatest players playing for them, quarterbacks in particular. Did the QBs make them great, or did they make the QB great? Or did they help eachother become great? I think the latter, that they both are needed to become great together.

B-B-B-Byrd Byrd Byrd, Byrd is the Wyrd!"

by willgarr15 on Jan 6, 2010 2:39 PM EST up reply actions  

Well anyways I do find it intresting that were interviewing a Cover 2 guy.

Especially when it seemed like Nix wasn’t a fan of the scheme in his first press conference.

by mob16151 on Jan 6, 2010 2:46 PM EST up reply actions  

I didn’t really get that from his first presser, but maybe I missed that part. I’m not against the cover 2, as long as it is played with some aggression like they do in Minny

B-B-B-Byrd Byrd Byrd, Byrd is the Wyrd!"

by willgarr15 on Jan 6, 2010 3:07 PM EST up reply actions  

If that’s the Cover 2, then we’ve completely missed the boat on getting the right kind of players.

Minnesota has 2 of the best DTs in the game, including the player whom the Bills should have resigned in Pat Williams and a stud DE in Jared Allen. They also have 3 athletic, versatile LBs (Greenway and Henderson in particular) and a very decent secondary that probably is better because of the great front 7. I’d take their defense in a heartbeat.

by sabre74kkn on Jan 6, 2010 3:38 PM EST up reply actions  

and you'd be correct

Tampa 2 definitely does require leaner/faster players. Got the small part covered but not so much with the fast part. McGee is fast and as a LB Scott is quick. Oh yeah, Maybin has that explosive first step thing going, just not going quite in the right direction, yet.

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by dzil on Jan 7, 2010 3:27 PM EST up reply actions  

The ultimate hilarity of that statement is that 2 of the starters on that defense were former Bills.

And there are 1-2 others that i’m sure our FO wanted to draft but didn’t.

If we get a GM with a pulse and a clue, and stop drafting mediocre players, and get a coach that can coach said talent up, we might have something better than the last 10 years, shocking as it may seem. Brian is spot on.

by sabre74kkn on Jan 6, 2010 4:33 PM EST up reply actions  

Is he stoned in that photo?

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by Kurupt on Jan 6, 2010 2:12 PM EST via mobile reply actions  

Dude, every picture I’ve seen of his looks more awkward than the last.

by MattRichWarren on Jan 6, 2010 2:16 PM EST up reply actions  

Just added to the post: Glazer tweets that Bills are flying out to MIN to conduct this interview.

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by Brian Galliford on Jan 6, 2010 2:26 PM EST reply actions  

When are the Bills gonna start flying you places so we can get the most up to date info?

I was born in Buffalo, and NO, it's not a suburb of New York City

by Ghetts on Jan 6, 2010 2:31 PM EST up reply actions  

When pigs fly?

B-B-B-Byrd Byrd Byrd, Byrd is the Wyrd!"

by willgarr15 on Jan 6, 2010 2:39 PM EST up reply actions  

hey

you gotta be happy Ralph is letting Nix fly! A good sign he’s opening the wallet :)

by fansince60 on Jan 6, 2010 2:40 PM EST up reply actions  

Currently flying – or was that just a general statement by Glazer?

Anybody the Bills interview that is currently in the playoffs, the Bills will likely have to go to that city to do the interview.

Bill Polian and AJ Smith are gone, so there's not the usual balance between "sane" and "others." Ralph has mentally checked out since 1994. It's a very dangerous time. The coalition for reason is extremely weak.

by thatguy34 on Jan 6, 2010 2:44 PM EST up reply actions  

He said “the bills are flying to minnesota”. I know what you know.

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by Brian Galliford on Jan 6, 2010 2:48 PM EST up reply actions  

PFT

cites Glazer saying Bills flying out Wednesday to interview tomorrow.

by fansince60 on Jan 6, 2010 2:58 PM EST up reply actions  

Thanks fansince. PFT report

Bill Polian and AJ Smith are gone, so there's not the usual balance between "sane" and "others." Ralph has mentally checked out since 1994. It's a very dangerous time. The coalition for reason is extremely weak.

by thatguy34 on Jan 6, 2010 3:05 PM EST up reply actions  

Not another soft-coach like Dick Jauron to coach this soft football team. We need somebody capable of getting this soft, losing mentality out of this organisation, and Frazier being a soft-spoken man is not the answer imo. His defense has all the talent in the world, yet they’re always inconsistent and some of my friends in the Minnesota area are far from impressed with his work this season.
These following five are my favorites (in that order):

1) Bill Cowher (The ideal candidate for the job, as we all know)

2) Marty Schottenheimer (Terrific proven HC, who has long ties to Buddy)

3) Brian Billick (A proven winning HC with expertise in offense and with the ability of attracting good assistants)

4) Jim Harbaugh (Great young and yet relatively experienced offensive mind, who has done a great job with Stanford. His fiery nature fits the mold)

5) Russ Grimm (The blue-collar, toughnosed Grimm has the background to be a candidate for the job)

by BillsfanfromDenmark on Jan 6, 2010 3:12 PM EST reply actions  

your list makes sense

I couldn’t disagree really at all as any one of those guys would make me happy

Can't we get a winner.... Go Bills 2010 !!!!

by killascript on Jan 6, 2010 3:25 PM EST up reply actions  

Love your list and the addition of Harbaugh from the one you posted earlier this morning

by radan on Jan 6, 2010 4:33 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

MOONLIGHT GRAHAM!

WE’RE GOING TO MINNESOTA TO FIND MOONLIGHT GRAHAM! Please, let this be nothing more than “due dilligence”. I’m already having nightmares of how Mularkey was foolishly given this job! I hope Nix HATES this guy and just stops the interview and walks out!

If either Cowher, Billick, or Marty wanted this job, it should be THIERS FOR THE TAKING! This is stupid! that’s 2 SB rings and a ton of playoff wins! What’s the problem here?! In typing this, I have decided that I don’t even like “due dilligence” anymore! I want a PROVEN WINNER!

by Caleb R on Jan 6, 2010 3:21 PM EST reply actions  

because he told us to go F..... ourselves and left????????

"The Bills have no playoff aspirations" – Dan Dierdorf

by Joe P. on Jan 6, 2010 3:30 PM EST up reply actions  

Not sure where you got that idea. Ralph hired Marv in ’06, Marv announced his intention to retain Mularkey as his coach, Mularkey resigned, Marv hired Jauron.

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by Brian Galliford on Jan 6, 2010 4:03 PM EST up reply actions  

I got that idea from Marv/Ralph telling him

sure you can stay. But we want you to fire all your coordinators.

by mob16151 on Jan 6, 2010 4:04 PM EST up reply actions  

So how does that make you right?

"The Bills have no playoff aspirations" – Dan Dierdorf

by Joe P. on Jan 6, 2010 6:57 PM EST up reply actions  

umm yea pretty much

Unless you feel of course that’s not a huge F U to a Headcoach. But to each thier own.

by mob16151 on Jan 7, 2010 2:10 PM EST up reply actions  

I think he meant, can you prove that actually happened?

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by Brian Galliford on Jan 7, 2010 3:23 PM EST up reply actions  

Kind of

Wilson fired team president/general manager Tom Donahoe; re-hired Levy, the Hall of Fame coach who led the Bills to four Super Bowl appearances; and made other changes to the front office. It is believed that Wilson also suggested, but did not mandate, changes in the coaching staff. Mularkey subsequently dismissed five assistants.

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=2289987

From espn.com obviously.

It was the only aricle that wasn’t 404’d I coud find.

by mob16151 on Jan 7, 2010 4:35 PM EST up reply actions  

I hated all the damned trick play calls...

the offense would be running smoothly and then on a 3rd and short comes some double-reverse-option-bootleg-flea-flicker that gets stuffed and kills the drive.

by NorCal BillsFan on Jan 6, 2010 4:00 PM EST up reply actions  

Newsflash: Cowher or Marty might not want the job. And maybe the Bills don’t want Billick or maybe Billick has been saying he wants the Bills job to drum up other interest. Vis-a-vis: due dilligence.

Bill Polian and AJ Smith are gone, so there's not the usual balance between "sane" and "others." Ralph has mentally checked out since 1994. It's a very dangerous time. The coalition for reason is extremely weak.

by thatguy34 on Jan 6, 2010 3:34 PM EST up reply actions  

Yeah, I’m (finally) starting to realize that Cowher is just not coming here and that we’d all better get used to hearing these lowly-assistants in the conversation as the Bills new HC, though OBD will have a very hard time selling any of these guys to the public. If it had to be one of these “no-name” coordinators (of course I don’t mean it literally, as some of them, like Frazier and Grimm, have been quite known in the league and in the public as future HC’s), Russ Grimm would be my choice. The guy just fits the Buffalo Bills-profile; he has been assistant HC for both the Pittsburgh Steelers and Arizona Cardinals. He was a HOF O-lineman, who understands the importance of being tough in the trenches, and he has learned a lot from guys like Bill Cowher, Ken Whisenhunt and Todd Haley. He was considered the top guy for the job in Pittsburgh, until Mike Tomlin went out and stole that gig away from him with a brilliant interview.
I’m by no means advocating him over the four others I mentioned on my list, but I’m only arguing that he has the credentials to be a legitimate candidate for the job, and I, for one, think he could be a very solid choice, if Nix provides him with strong drafts.

by BillsfanfromDenmark on Jan 6, 2010 4:04 PM EST up reply actions  

no other jobs!

if ANY of these former coaches REALLY want to coach, then what’s the hold up? there ARE NO other jobs open! Carolina, Tampa, Chicago are ALL keeping their coaches! and “well run organizations” are generally “well run”, meaning they don’t NEED a coach!

Someone needs to grow a pair, come to Buffalo, and turn this thing around! These guys preach “overcoming challenges” to players forever, then run for the hills when a challenge (or challenging job) is placed in front of them! They want cushy little jobs with the least resistance to the playoffs! Pathetic!

by Caleb R on Jan 6, 2010 4:18 PM EST up reply actions  

Leslie Frazier? great – now we’re going to hire a chick for our HC – well, hopefully she’s better than DJ & Co.

what’s that? oh……..

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by J2 on Jan 6, 2010 4:26 PM EST reply actions  

I like this list

Here’s the list Bills fan from Denmark put up:
1) Bill Cowher (The ideal candidate for the job, as we all know)

2) Marty Schottenheimer (Terrific proven HC, who has long ties to Buddy)

3) Brian Billick (A proven winning HC with expertise in offense and with the ability of attracting good assistants)

4) Jim Harbaugh (Great young and yet relatively experienced offensive mind, who has done a great job with Stanford. His fiery nature fits the mold)

5) Russ Grimm (The blue-collar, tough nosed Grimm has the background to be a candidate for the job)

Here’s my thoughts:
Cowher wants the Dallas job. If he didn’t we would take him and he’d be the HC already. I have the feeling he’s going to end up sitting out until the Carolina job opens next year.

Schottenheimer (Have we actually interviewed him or is this talk?) He’d get us to the playoffs and as someone else said it’s Babysteps for the Bills right now.

Billick, I think this is who we end up with. Ralph wanted a Superbowl winning Coach and here’s one who probably wants the job.

Harbaugh, (He’s not there yet.) He will be but it’s easy to coach when you run your “shouldn’t been a Heisman winner” up and down the field. I’m sure Kelly would balk at this choice. When he was on ESPN Kelly criticized Harbaugh for not being tough enough. Apparently he isn’t that smart either because he confronted Kelly about it in a elevator and Harbaugh broke his hand hitting Kelly in the head. (And this was during the season when he was still playing.) You don’t mess with Mr. Kelly.

Grimm, I like this choice. He’s ready and he’s tough. “Jim Kelly tough.” I know we’ve been burned by hiring the next hot coordinator, but I prefer him over Frazier. (We need to chuck the Tampa 2 out the door anyway.)

by Moose68 on Jan 6, 2010 4:38 PM EST reply actions  

forgot

that crazy Harbaugh Kelly incident. Didn’t Harbaugh just sign a new deal with Stanford?

by jpheff on Jan 6, 2010 6:45 PM EST up reply actions  

He did just sign a new deal. It won’t preclude him from leaving if he wants. That doesn’t usually happen.

by MattRichWarren on Jan 6, 2010 8:00 PM EST up reply actions  

I don't see how

Frazier is an improvement on Fewell. Coordinator-wise, we can’t do better than Fewell who is a hot DC commodity, gained valuable HC experience, knows the players, and has had success with these players. The main question that Fewell has to answer is how he plans to fix the offensive woes. I just don’t see how any other coordinator is better option. We can’t keep losing talent because we are so darn impatient.

by Ono on Jan 6, 2010 6:01 PM EST reply actions  

Fewell has a big thing going against him and that’s that he is part of the failed coaching staff. Frazier is not and that’s his biggest chip over Fewell.

by MattRichWarren on Jan 6, 2010 8:00 PM EST up reply actions  

Anyone see Peter King on PTI tonight ? I missed it but it was summarized to me that he said our GM choice wasn’t well received, we won’t attract a big name, and would have to settle for a below the radar assistant type

by radan on Jan 6, 2010 6:11 PM EST via mobile reply actions  

Yeah he said we are not getting the Big 3 (cowher, billick, marty s). A canidate for the job told Peter, “he wasn’t impressed with the job or the moves they made this offseason”

"It took twenty five years to get there, and they did it in championship style" - Van Miller 1/20/91.

by Michael_Necci on Jan 6, 2010 6:47 PM EST up reply actions  

moves they made this offseason

They haven’t made a move since the offseason started except letting the coaching staff go… WTF?

by MattRichWarren on Jan 6, 2010 8:01 PM EST up reply actions  

could "they"

have been referring to Nix?

by fansince60 on Jan 6, 2010 8:03 PM EST up reply actions  

That was during the season though? I love semantics. :-)

by MattRichWarren on Jan 6, 2010 8:05 PM EST up reply actions  

meaning they weren’t impressed with the promotion of Nix to GM

by fansince60 on Jan 6, 2010 8:05 PM EST up reply actions  

maybe it was a reference to Maybin (takes cover), AVP, no huddle, etc. who knows?

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by dzil on Jan 6, 2010 8:30 PM EST up reply actions  

Yep, Shanny basically said he signed with the Redskins because Allen was hired as the GM,

and how important it is to have a Gm in the FO that can evaluate talent. Everyone knows the other serious contender for his services was the Bills. Doesn’t take much to connect those doets…..not a glowing endorsement of Nix or the others in the FO.

"The Bills have no playoff aspirations" – Dan Dierdorf

by Joe P. on Jan 6, 2010 7:06 PM EST up reply actions  

so you’re saying Shanahan decided to go to the skins after nix was named Bills GM? No way I’m buying that, he NEVER seriously considered the Bills, regardless of Nix.

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by dzil on Jan 6, 2010 8:34 PM EST up reply actions  

*never

most of my posts get deleted :(

by dzil on Jan 6, 2010 8:34 PM EST up reply actions  

*after
   I give up! LOL

most of my posts get deleted :(

by dzil on Jan 6, 2010 8:36 PM EST up reply actions  

I am saying that Allen signing with the Skins was a big reason why Shanny decided long ago that he wanted to

coach their over the Bills. As we have no idea when the Bills really decided on Nix and what Shanny said to Brandon when they initially talked, their is no way to know what came first.

"The Bills have no playoff aspirations" – Dan Dierdorf

by Joe P. on Jan 6, 2010 8:42 PM EST up reply actions  

Maybe Marv will come back—I hear he thought we were on a youth movement with our GM choice

by radan on Jan 6, 2010 6:50 PM EST reply actions  

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