Which Bills are safe bets for 2010 roster?
It's tough to run this kind of post when your team doesn't even have a head coach in place. That's the case in Buffalo, where the Bills are set to interview their second head coaching candidate at some point Thursday. Without a concrete idea of the types of offensive and defensive systems the team will be employing in 2010, it's tricky to guess which players will be around, because not every player fits every scheme.
So, naturally, the list we're about to share with you is subject to change. (And yes, it's an opinion piece. Obviously.)
No matter which schemes the Bills end up using, I think the following 21 players are safe in Buffalo. There are a variety of reasons that players make this list, but the most prominent among them are centralized around contract status, overall value and the philosophies laid out by GM Buddy Nix at his introductory press conference. Most of these players are scheme versatile, so in most cases, the team should hang onto these players regardless of who the next head coach is.
The full list of players is after the jump. We welcome the debate that is sure to arise in the comments section.
QB Ryan Fitzpatrick. Intelligent enough to pick up a new offense quickly. Proved that he can throw the ball with enough zip to be successful in inclement weather conditions, something Nix has mentioned as important. Can win your team some games from a backup slot. Fitzpatrick is a guy that a team can rally around if he's thrust into the lineup; he has his teammates' confidence. Should be back in a backup capacity only.
RB Fred Jackson. Pretty much a no-brainer. Can do it all, and will be a valuable asset no matter who the next head coach is.
WR Lee Evans. In the midst of playing out a large contract extension, which ensures that he'll be here. It helps that he's a pretty good player that'll work well in any offensive system, and he's a true team player. Get this guy a quarterback. Please.
TE Shawn Nelson. Nix mentioned briefly his belief that the Bills' 2009 draft class was a strong one, so most of those guys should be back. Nelson possesses tons of untapped potential, and though he had a quiet rookie year, he made some very athletic plays for his offense.
OT Brad Butler. Not much will be known about the direction of the battered offensive line for a while, but Butler should be kept around for two reasons: he's a solid player, and he's in the midst of a very reasonable five-year extension. Will he start? That's up for debate, but solid offensive linemen aren't exactly available 24/7/365.
OG Andy Levitre. Was Buffalo's best lineman in '09 as a rookie second-round pick. Mobile and tough, Levitre has a bright future as an interior lineman.
C/G Eric Wood. Obviously, his inclusion on this list is contingent on his recovery from the gruesome leg injury he suffered in November. He's a big, tough, mobile, smart kid that belongs in the pivot - and if he's healthy in 2010, don't be shocked if he ends up there.
C/G Geoff Hangartner. He's got three years left on his deal, and while he isn't spectacular by any means, he's durable and smart. Maybe he's only a depth player next year - that's how in-flux the line situation is at this point - but he's most certainly earned a place on next year's team.
DE Aaron Schobel. Yes, he might retire - and those chances skyrocket if Schobel is less than enthused with the Bills' coaching hire. If he plays, he's got more than enough left in the tank - as well as the contract status - to stick as a pass rusher, even if the Bills employ a 3-4 scheme.
DE Aaron Maybin. Has his work cut out for him impressing a new regime, regardless of what scheme he's in. But he's a young guy with a modest contract and a ton of potential, so he's not going anywhere any time soon.
DT Marcus Stroud. Might be the most iffy name on the D-Line list aside from Schobel, because at this point, he's pretty strictly a 4-3 DT. Not very scheme versatile. But he got a four-year extension last year, and that contract should keep him in Buffalo for another year regardless of scheme. (Notice, by the way, that Buffalo has yet to interview a coach that exclusively runs a 3-4 defense.)
DT Kyle Williams. Young, improving - to the point that he's a Pro Bowl alternate - and in the middle of a lengthy, modest contract extension. He, too, isn't overly scheme versatile, but he'll be here because he's good enough to be here.
LB Paul Posluszny. Like him or not, he's a good player and picks up defenses quickly. Buffalo is so desperate for depth at linebacker that there is virtually no chance that Posluszny goes anywhere; he's a virtual lock to be a starter in 2010.
LB Kawika Mitchell. Again, the Bills so sorely need depth here that Mitchell isn't going anywhere any time soon. Big and smart enough to play in a 4-3 or a 3-4. Reports indicate his knee will be healthy by the time the important off-season programs begin.
CB Terrence McGee. DBs are fairly easy to slot into any defensive scheme, particularly when they're as sound at tackling as McGee is. He's another player who recently got a contract extension as well.
CB Drayton Florence. The one player on this list that Nix is overtly aware of, as he was part of the team that drafted him in San Diego. Had a solid '09 season, and has the size and coverage ability to play well in any scheme. Is also quite easily the most physical DB on this list.
CB Leodis McKelvin. Even if he doesn't return to the lineup in a starting capacity, the Bills need a return man - Jackson can't wear as many hats next year as he did this year - and McKelvin has experience returning both kicks and punts at a high level. Contract status and upside cement his status.
S Jairus Byrd. Again, a no-brainer. I'm not sure Nix views him as an elite safety, but his ball skills and flair for the big play make him a huge asset to any defense. Might get better based solely on the fact that he has a chance to be healthy in 2010.
S Donte Whitner. Almost didn't include him on this list, but his versatility saves him for at least one more year - that's all he's got left on his contract, at any rate. New coaching staff will need to find a position for him and keep him there.
K Rian Lindell. Take a look around the league - solid kickers are very tough to find these days. Buffalo's got one, and he won't go anywhere any time soon.
P Brian Moorman. He's something of a cult hero in Buffalo, and a great team and community leader. Absolutely no reason for him to go anywhere else.
Depending on scheme, there are a few more players that could ultimately slip onto this list. And, obviously, some of these guys might drop off the list at some point as well. Right now, these 21 players are very safe bets to be in Buffalo next season; obviously, many more players currently on the roster will be here for training camp, because we're not going to go get 58 new players this off-season, but these guys are safe bets to be on the roster next year. Let your thoughts be known, Rumblers.
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I believe those are all pretty solid picks to stay on the team. I would have to add George Wilson to that list. I know with a new coach annd everything hes going to be looked at but 4 int’s and over 100 tackles, not being an every game starter WR turned safety and looks pretty good back there. I would have to guess he’d be back.
Hardys another one I would assume makes the squad also.
Overall pretty good analysis of everyone tho Brian. I wouldnt mind Spencer Johnson coming back too. I think hes a pretty good rotational/change of pace DT.
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by bflo on Jan 7, 2010 8:57 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
Spencer Johnson is an intriguing point, but he’s too similar to Williams in my mind. Johnson definitely has the type of contract to stick around, and he WILL be here if we run a 4-3.
I didn’t include Wilson, though I could have since he’s probably going to be an RFA rather than a UFA (no CBA – same goes for Keith Ellison, probably). I didn’t include Hardy because he was a regime pick that’s done nothing to date – there’s absolutely no guarantee he’ll be around.
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by Brian Galliford on Jan 7, 2010 9:08 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah i kind of feel 50-50 on Hardy survivng the change but I just feel with losing Roscoe, most likely TO and chances are Reed if someone over pays him. But being 6’ 5" and a second rounder I think Hardy stays. But he NEEDS to produce this year or hes outta here.
Regarding Whitner. What do you think they try to do with him? I know its obviously tough to tell without a coaching staff in place but what would you do with him? I dont know about him. I dont know if he beats out Wilson (if hes here next year), do they use him and Wilson and then Byrd in passing situations (I dont think it will be this), do they try to convert him to a corner/safety hybrid and use almost like a WVU style “3” safetys. I really dont know what to think about Whitner or what position he wil play. But I agree with you that he will be here next year.
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by bflo on Jan 7, 2010 9:28 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I would play Whitner at strong safety, keep Byrd at free, and roll from there. You can do a lot worse.
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by Brian Galliford on Jan 7, 2010 9:41 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
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by bflo on Jan 7, 2010 9:43 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
i like that
Wilson is a good sub, so is Scott
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by billsoferie on Jan 7, 2010 10:17 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Actually
i think Scitt would work well in a 3-4
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by billsoferie on Jan 7, 2010 10:17 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
as an LB you mean? I dont think he did too bad of a job filling in. Obviously hes not your ideal LB but he did a good job while in there. Plus if we did go 3-4 and the job hes doone cover TE’s in the past he could be used for that without taking a regular safety (Byrd, Whit, Wilson) off the field. Only problem with it would be if we go 3-4 Maybin probably is that Ware/Merriman type rusher and then idk if theres a spot for Scott. But I Scott did impress me this year, he maned up and was thrown into a situation that hes never been in before.
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by bflo on Jan 7, 2010 10:24 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
As a LB
He is tough and mobile and would work well as that hybrid type of end in thr 3-4. Even if we stay as a 4-3 i like him as a back up SS or LB
As for Maybin; I think the 3-4 is the best way to exploite his strengths. Either way, the kid needs to hit the weight romm this year and hit it hard.
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by billsoferie on Jan 7, 2010 10:32 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
If we are talking about the roster — not who gets invited to training camp — then my bet is that both Wilson and Scott are going to be on it, with Wilson starting at SS and Scott as one of the best back-ups available at that position. Whitner’s fate will depend on how he impresses the new coaching staff during training camp.
I think the same is true of Maybin. If he has not improved significantly by the end of August he could easily be cut by the new regime. They will not keep him just because the previous crew made him a first-round pick.
by Macktruck on Jan 7, 2010 10:38 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I don't think there is a chance we cut Maybin
unless you get a 1st back, or something that significantly recoups the loss
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by billsoferie on Jan 7, 2010 11:18 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
If he is as pathetic in training camp as he was this season I don’t believe the new coaches will give up a roster spot to keep him around. Their commitment to him will be a lot weaker than was the case for Jauron, Fewell, Modrak, etc. As a high first-round pick he does have a pretty expensive rookie contract. He may very well show improvement, in which case everyone would be overjoyed. We need him badly. But if he can’t get off blocks during preseason games next summer and looks like he is a lost cause, it would not make sense to hold on to him just because of where he was drafted.
by Macktruck on Jan 7, 2010 12:22 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I don't think it would make any more sense to trade him next year.
I would not really county this years lack of production against him. He had little to no time on the field. He needs size and needs time. If he cannot find a way to make legit improvement over the course of the entire season next year then i would be more inclined to consider trade options.
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by billsoferie on Jan 7, 2010 12:51 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Give him some time!!
Yeah, he looked terrible this year. Yeah, he didn’t even look like he would contribute any time soon. You don’t just cut a 21 year old, former #11 pick that quickly. Let him at least prove, over some time, that he can’t cut it first.
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by Kurupt on Jan 7, 2010 12:53 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Leodis was the #11 pick 1 year prior to Maybin, but nobody’s wigged out that he’s not on the “keeper” list.
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by dzil on Jan 7, 2010 1:36 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
dang, missed that. my bad.
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by dzil on Jan 7, 2010 1:43 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I actually WOULD be wigged out if he wasn’t on there since he had a decent Rookie year and spent his sophomore year injured.
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by UZ on Jan 7, 2010 3:03 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
lol @ trying to reason with the orakpo brigade
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by UZ on Jan 7, 2010 3:03 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
But if he can’t get off blocks during preseason games next summer and looks like he is a lost cause, it would not make sense to hold on to him just because of where he was drafted.
that can be said of every player in the NFL. if a guy is deemed a lost cause, they get cut. I’d say there’s just no way they determine he’s a lost cause during next year’s training camp, especially given the long road it often takes DE’s to become NFL players.
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by JPH on Jan 7, 2010 1:26 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
People seem to forget that DE’s take time to reach their top potential.
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by UZ on Jan 7, 2010 3:04 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I was kind of thinking we’ll see a few times a game of 3 safetys in the game at the same time. Not a true 3 safetys in the regular sense of a safety but a combo of 3 of the 4 (Byrd, Whitner, Wilson, Scott) on the field together alot. And with this league becoming more of a passing league… im not against that at all.
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by bflo on Jan 7, 2010 10:47 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Johnson....
Wouldn’t he be more likely to be around if we ran a 3-4 too? What other players do we currently have that could slide out to DE in a 3-4? He could definitely be a rotational guy, at least, if we made a switch to the 3-4. It’s not like we’d be able to find that many players out there to fill all the needs we’d have if we made the switch anyways…
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by Kurupt on Jan 7, 2010 11:06 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
If we went to a 3-4 I think hes really the only player that fits the 3-4 end mold thats currently on the team. Plus hes never done anything that has made me say “Why does this guy even see the field?!”
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by bflo on Jan 7, 2010 11:09 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I agree. I think he is a very solid rotational player. We should really keep spencer, KW, Stroud, Schobel and Maybin on the D-line. Which unfortunately puts us at another position of need. (DE) But I think we can expect that from a lot of positions in the next regime.
by BillsfanDan on Jan 7, 2010 3:50 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Brian -
Do you seen what happened in cleveland last season happening here? Or does it depend on who is hired? I think Mangini got rid of something like 30+ players.
Shawn Nelson clearly has a ton of talent, but should we be calling him injury prone yet? He seemed to be oft-injured with several different things this year. He’s obviously got the potential to be a crazy good player, if he can stay on the field.
If we do switch to a 3-4, what are the chances someone like stroud gets traded?
by quantumuprising on Jan 7, 2010 9:29 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
Who would want to trade for Stroud? Large contract, at the end of his career. I doubt we could get a fourth-rounder for him.
There’s very little chance we see the type of roster turnover that Denver and Cleveland incurred last season. It’ll be a slow turnover, just like it’s always been here.
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by Brian Galliford on Jan 7, 2010 9:41 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
how big is his contract? he’s shown that he can still play.
by quantumuprising on Jan 7, 2010 10:04 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Nic Haris?
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by NYTXFAN on Jan 7, 2010 9:32 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
Undersized, scheme-specific linebacker or slow, scheme-specific safety? No. Nic Harris doesn’t come anywhere close to this list.
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by Brian Galliford on Jan 7, 2010 9:39 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Trade Value
I know this can be debated, but is there any trade value for players that are not on this list? I know a lot was made of what value (if any) Parrish could command as far as draft picks. What about Schobel? I hate to see him go anywhere, but if he wants out of Buffalo and a chance to play for a contender, could we get a 3rd rounder? How about Chris Ellis for a case of athletic tape?
by MarinoTheBill on Jan 7, 2010 9:37 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
he’s talking retirement and his contract is overpriced. I doubt he’d be interested at this point in starting over at somewhere new with a big pay cut.
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by dzil on Jan 7, 2010 9:41 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
referring to Schobel
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by dzil on Jan 7, 2010 9:42 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Parrish unfortunately doesnt hold much trade value IMO because of how publicly frustrated he was and the fact that he knows he was on the outs with this team.
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by bflo on Jan 7, 2010 9:41 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
How about Chris Kelsay?
Coming off a his best year since 2006 and still has 2 years left on his contract extension. Seems like a solid player and locker room guy who I’ve been impressed with this year. And who are the other options on this team – Denney (he’s tall) or Ellis (Mr. Invisible) no thanks.
by Andy Boron on Jan 7, 2010 9:48 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
another overpriced contract.
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by dzil on Jan 7, 2010 9:54 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
And much, much less scheme versatile than even Schobel.
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by Brian Galliford on Jan 7, 2010 9:57 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Ask Kurupt for his thoughts on Kelsay …;-)
by sabre74kkn on Jan 7, 2010 10:29 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Ask yourself how many DE’s from this year are still under contract for next year (not Denney, and maybe not Schobel). Maybe you’ll start to understand what Boron was implying.
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by Blitz on Jan 7, 2010 10:43 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
But what are our other options? Draft another rookie like Derrick Morgan who will take 2-3 years to develop as DEs do, give 12 million to a guy like Freeney, or overpay for another 30+ year old FA like Kampman or Vanden Bosch who’s already on the downside?
I’m not saying he’s a building block for the future or anything, but I feel like he and Stroud have the same downsides (old, contract, limited in role) and if one is on this list, the other should be, especially the guy who had the better year. If he’s not on the team we’re assuming that Maybin suddenly blossoms into a starter?
by Andy Boron on Jan 7, 2010 10:42 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I think Kelsey comes back only if Ellis, Maybin, and training camp FA’s dont impress the new coaching staff to the point where they can be depended on.
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by bflo on Jan 7, 2010 10:45 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
The only way I see Kelsay coming back is if Schobel doesn’t, because as you said, they’re kind of the same situation. I think Schobel will be back.
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by Brian Galliford on Jan 7, 2010 10:48 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Thats a good point. Kelseys return is definitely up to whether or not Schobel is back. Good point Brian.
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by bflo on Jan 7, 2010 10:49 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Say it ain't so!!!!
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by Kurupt on Jan 7, 2010 11:10 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
You will probably think I’m crazy but a guy I’d add to this list is George Wilson. He’s cheap, extremely versatile, a special teams standout, very serviceable backup safety, can be an emergency backup WR, great locker room guy. Teams like players like that.
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by PerryTuttle22 on Jan 7, 2010 10:07 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
Thats not crazy at all. He has a ton of value to this team. I think he should be on the list also.
by BillsfanDan on Jan 7, 2010 3:59 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
How about Demetrius Bell?
He’s still a raw talent. Even if they get another LT, they should want to keep him around for development.
by Rick A on Jan 7, 2010 10:36 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
I think Bell is a lock to make the roster, most likely as a starter at either LT or RT, but at a minimum as a swing tackle. His play in 2009 was comparable to that of all the OT’s who were taken in the first round of the 2009 draft with the possible exception of Oher (who, it should be remembered, played at RT, not the more difficult position of LT). That being the case, why on earth would anyone want to cut him?
On offense, I also think Marshawn Lynch’s roster spot is safe if he doesn’t get traded (or make another mistake during the offseason).
by Macktruck on Jan 7, 2010 10:45 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Oher did play some left tackle, and actually held his own against Jared Allen when they played the Vikings.
by Pistol on Jan 7, 2010 11:17 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Yes, I do think Oher was the best rookie OT this year, with Loadholt coming in second. After that I would say that Bell, Jason Smith and Eugene Monroe were essentially tied in terms of their performances (with Monroe perhaps a little behind Smith and Bell — he did give up a ton of sacks)). My point remains that playing LT in the NFL (and RT as well) is a pretty tough assignment. It’s rare that anyone comes in their first year and plays consistently well. If you keep that reality in mind, Demetrius in fact had a pretty good year and I simply can’t understand why people are so down on him. At a minimum I can’t imagine any new coaching staff not keeping someone as talented and promising as he is on the roster next year.
by Macktruck on Jan 7, 2010 12:15 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
That’s true for this year, but a couple of those guys had injury problems and it was just two years ago that Jake Long and Ryan Clady came in and performed at a Pro Bowl level while Sam Baker had a good year too. Jeff Otah played like a Pro Bowler at RT, Chris Williams missed the year with back problems, Gosder Cherilus struggled some at RT and Duane Brown struggled at LT.
Obviously, it’s not sure thing, but I think rookie LTs can be instant impact players and a guy taken in the first round is probably an upgrade over Bell from day one.
I agree that Bell is a lock to make the roster though.
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by kaisertown on Jan 7, 2010 10:25 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Granted, I think he was at RT, but didn’t Sebastian Vollmer do pretty well too?
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by WhyBillsWhy on Jan 8, 2010 3:04 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I pretty much agree
with your list, Brian, but I’ll stop short of saying they’re locks to make the roster next season. There are too many things that can happen for all of these guys to still be here: trades, injuries, cut for salary cap reasons (or because the new head coach wants someone else to fill the player’s slot), etc.
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by Blitz on Jan 7, 2010 10:40 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
In the midst of playing out a large contract extension, which ensures that he’ll be here.
I agree that Evans will stick around. However, because the cap ramifications would be moot for the Bills (since they’re not generally close to the limit) anyone not performing to their contract could be released.
by Pistol on Jan 7, 2010 11:19 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
a bit of topic but.......
If Shobel does decide to call it quits, do you think the Bills make a play for Julius Peppers who is very unhappy in Carolina? Also, does he have the flexibility toplay in one scheme or another?
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by Jax Bills Fan on Jan 7, 2010 12:25 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
No chance
Rebuilding teams aren’t going to throw huge money at a 30 year old DE, and there’s no chance Peppers signs with a team in Buffalo’s situation anyhow.
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by Kurupt on Jan 7, 2010 12:55 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Derek Schouman seemed good
until he got injured. Demetrius Bell could be good as well.
by Bill Frank on Jan 7, 2010 12:28 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Yeah he was our best TE this year. Which isn’t saying much but he looks like he would be a very solid #2 TE, hopefully behind Shawn Nelson in the future.
by Xavier W on Jan 7, 2010 3:00 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Brian...
You can delete this after reading – but are you going to do a post on players that SHOULDN’T make the switch?
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by Ghetts on Jan 7, 2010 12:28 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Wouldn't that be everyone else not listed?
For the most part?
I think we need to know what schemes we’ll be running before predicting what players won’t be headed back to Buffalo….
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by Kurupt on Jan 7, 2010 12:56 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
i cant believe itd be all or nothing
there gotta be some players, like lynch, that are on the fence type players, where others, like ellison are most likely gone
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by silverstreak3k on Jan 7, 2010 1:11 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I think your list says a lot – only 21 players out of a 56-man roster are certain to be back in Buffalo next year. That’s about 38 percent! I think what your prediction covertly says is what we already know – the 2009 Buffalo Bills will be deserevedly kicked to the curb.
by Geolover on Jan 7, 2010 1:32 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Actually, it’s 21 out of 80.
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by Brian Galliford on Jan 7, 2010 3:03 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I wouldn't be suprised to see Mitchell not on the team next year
Admittedly a lot of it is on how does he bounceback from injury. It’s just IMO he’s been pretty underwhelming so far in a Bill’s uniform.
by mob16151 on Jan 7, 2010 2:13 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
completely agree. Not a big Mithcell fan. Kind of rubs me the wrong way and dont really see the production and hes got a big mouth. But with the lack of talent at LB I have a feeling he’ll be back.
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by bflo on Jan 7, 2010 2:59 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
If we keep Spencer and Kelsay then we will oficially be the most mediocre team in the league.
How about Hardy, Reed and Steve???
by rick p on Jan 7, 2010 2:58 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
well we’re one of the worst now so mediocre would be a step up.
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by bflo on Jan 7, 2010 3:00 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Hardy- 75% Chance coming back (too much potential even if he has been a disappointment)
Reed- 40% Chance (A #3 WR and with steve and Hardy as young up and coming guys this spot probably goes to them)
Stevey-50% Chance (Has shown flashes but doesnt have a great upside and is probably looked at in less value than Hardy)
This is all in my opinion of course.
by Xavier W on Jan 7, 2010 3:03 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
T.O.
I have some questions for Brian about T.O.
Should he come back? Would he be a serviceable no. 2 (with a stable QB situation)?
Maybe we could draft another Wide Receiver and he and Lee Evans both mentor him?
Has he said he wanted to come back or just hasn’t ruled it out completely?
Has Nix hinted or said anything about him coming back?
Basically… what is the status on T.O.? Is he possibly coming back/ would it make sense?
by JMP on Jan 7, 2010 3:53 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
I have sincere doubts that TO will be back, because contenders will seriously consider signing him this year.
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by Brian Galliford on Jan 7, 2010 4:29 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Mid-year pick ups
Who looks promising among the multiple mid/late year pick ups at LB/OLs? Draft seemed to look good. I actually thought the OL looked better with Incognito (what happens to his contract?). Any thoughts, Brian, on Scott, Chambers, Meredith, Gaddis, Ramsey and McKinney? they all seemed surprisingly serviceable.
by labill on Jan 7, 2010 4:52 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
I don’t really consider “serviceable” as lock-worthy. It wouldn’t shock me to see Meredith back. The rest? I sincerely doubt it.
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by Brian Galliford on Jan 7, 2010 7:11 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Brohm sticks as a 3rd QB I would think.
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by MattRichWarren on Jan 7, 2010 8:56 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Possibly #2 if they draft a guy.
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by WhyBillsWhy on Jan 8, 2010 3:37 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Well I think they will draft a guy and Brohm goes to third behind new guy and Fitzpatrick. Or they sign a guy, draft a guy, and Brohm is cut.
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by MattRichWarren on Jan 8, 2010 9:21 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
In that scenario, I’d be willing to have Brohm and Fitzpatrick fight it out. No QB will have proven anything to me at that point with a new offensive scheme being put in place.
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by WhyBillsWhy on Jan 8, 2010 10:43 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Where's Marshawn?
I actually agree with your assessment but just wanted to throw his name out there because no one else has.
I think he needs to show he can stay out of trouble in the off season and show something in the OTA’s. He seemed to get less and less playing time as the season progressed which means he wasn’t working hard in practice to try to keep his spot or to get it back. once he lost it.
by dzfromny on Jan 7, 2010 7:37 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
O-line.......
If all of the walking wounded get healthy, and we keep the players who got experience this year, I like our line.
AFTER,
we draft a starting left tackle.
This bunch will be pretty good next year. “Young” = good after they got their baptism by fire. Which they did this year. These guys will play their guts out for a good head coach.
Wait, they already did for a not-so-good coach.
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by SERGEANT MAJOR THOR on Jan 7, 2010 8:32 PM EST reply actions 0 recs

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