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Bills vs. Ravens: Can Bills Finally Find A Pass Rush?

In covering Sunday's game between the Baltimore Ravens and New England Patriots for SBNation.com, I tried to keep an eye on some of the things the Ravens did and didn't do well in anticipation of this weekend's Buffalo Bills game. Just like Ryan Fitzpatrick in Week 3 - minus the two interceptions, of course - I thought Joe Flacco picked New England's secondary apart with ease, particularly early in the game.

I did note, however, that Baltimore - whose offensive line played very well, for the most part - did spring leaks in pass protection from time to time. Michael Oher, in particular, had a rough outing, committing three penalties and allowing a few pressures and a sack, mostly at the hands of rookie outside linebacker Jermaine Cunningham.

Taking the season in whole, Baltimore has protected Flacco relatively well. Entering the Pats game, he'd been sacked five times in five games - and the three sacks New England got weren't of the painful, hard-to-watch variety that, say, a Bills allowed sack is, when a QB has no prayer to even throw the ball away. Oher was the weak link in Week 6, but by and large has had a pretty solid 2010 season playing left tackle.

There very well could be opportunities for the Bills to get some heat on Flacco - but given their porous run defense and tendency to get themselves into deep holes, those opportunities will likely come very early in the game. Buffalo, which has just six sacks on the season (five from players still with the team), needs to find a way to get some pressure to force the turnovers that came with absurd ease in 2009. Oher, who struggled mostly with Cunningham's speed, will likely be tested first and foremost by rookie outside linebackers Arthur Moats (if he plays) and Antonio Coleman.

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Ha-ha!

But seriously, no.

by lynchburgbillsfan on Oct 19, 2010 1:19 PM EDT reply actions   1 recs

that about sums it up.....rec'd

The Chan Plan – I believe in cutting, trading, or releasing my starters….and if they really suck, sign them to an extension.

The NIx plan - "We've got to dig our way out"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0VjPNKc0VsU

by Joe P. on Oct 19, 2010 7:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

No

Where’s the poll? =)

by Mindbender14 on Oct 19, 2010 1:20 PM EDT reply actions  

what would be the point? Even the optimists aren’t that optimistic.

Enjoying my annual three months of optimism.

by Trashplate on Oct 19, 2010 2:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

When first and foremost the most likely sources are Antonio Coleman and Arthur Moats I think you answered your own question.

by Leo Crow on Oct 19, 2010 1:29 PM EDT reply actions  

I understand the snark, folks, but I’m not going to stop writing football articles because the Bills suck harder than a Hoover. :)

by Brian Galliford on Oct 19, 2010 1:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

These are the days where your ability to write comes in very handy. I know i’m excited the bye week is finally over. As much as it stinks when they take the field, I love being able to watch this team.

I just do not see how the Bills become a pressure force in this game. There are too many weapons they need to be mindful of and I bet they try and keep everything in front of them before they worry about the risky blitz packages. Heh. Do they even have those types of plays in place?

Not related to the line play…I see Todd Heap is injured. Who do the Bills now need to be worried about at TE?

"Give back some of that money you ain't [expletive] earned!" - Eric Wood

Current song recommendation: R.E.M. - "Supernatural Superserious"

by TheAfghanTwilight on Oct 19, 2010 1:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

Is he? He came back into the game after that hit from Merriweather.

by Leo Crow on Oct 19, 2010 1:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

Todd Heap left that Pats game after a ridiculously blatant blow to the head from Brandon Meriweather. He later returned. He’ll play on Sunday. And be happy that he’ll be doing so, because Ed Dickson would tear us up worse than Heap will (better athlete).

by Brian Galliford on Oct 19, 2010 1:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

thug

Was Brandon Meriweather ever disciplined for that cheap shot (helmet on helmet) on Heap? I mean, the guy attempted to do the same thing earlier on Heap….and yet played the whole game and, as far as I know, was never held accountable for his dirty play.

by ccthemovieman on Oct 19, 2010 1:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

If he hasn’t been yet, he almost assuredly will be. An NFL official called the hit “egregious” yesterday, so his goose is basically cooked.

by Brian Galliford on Oct 19, 2010 1:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

Good

I hope something’s done.

by ccthemovieman on Oct 19, 2010 1:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

50k he was fine

and when you game check is “only” 32k that hurts

by Eric Murawski on Oct 19, 2010 7:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

yes

yes. he was fined 50k for it i believe

by EskimoAlva on Oct 19, 2010 8:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

Robert Royal would eat that defense for lunch.

"Give back some of that money you ain't [expletive] earned!" - Eric Wood

Current song recommendation: R.E.M. - "Supernatural Superserious"

by TheAfghanTwilight on Oct 19, 2010 2:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

Reuben Gant and Tony Hunter would too.

by Rick A on Oct 19, 2010 2:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

Actually, Royal was a great athlete and teammate. Unfortunately he, like Roberto Duran, had hands of stone.

by Rick A on Oct 19, 2010 2:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

And hey, I’m not going to stop reading them.

I hope this is the week we find some answers vs. the run but I don’t think the pass rush can or will materialize this whole season because the personnel just isn’t there.

by Leo Crow on Oct 19, 2010 1:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

LOL…not snarky…but honest. Unless Moats or Coleman show something, i have 0 hope for a pass rush.

by lynchburgbillsfan on Oct 19, 2010 1:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

but I’m not going to stop writing football articles because the Bills suck harder than a Hoover

I beleive a Dyson is the vacuum cleaner you are looking for

Jokes are funny - The Bills are funny

by J2 on Oct 19, 2010 2:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

or a Rigid shopvac, they’re pretty good

by dgrid on Oct 19, 2010 2:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

this should be the poll, which vac cleaner do the Bills suck harder than…

by dgrid on Oct 19, 2010 2:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

The poll could really go south though.

"Give back some of that money you ain't [expletive] earned!" - Eric Wood

Current song recommendation: R.E.M. - "Supernatural Superserious"

by TheAfghanTwilight on Oct 19, 2010 2:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

I win!!!

My history in construction/destruction, I promise there are better…, some have ability of supplying 4800 cfm in one handy dandy unit… and suck up both the Dyson and Rigid, literally…
http://www.deltaportercable.com/Products/ProductDetail.aspx?ProductID=11487

Now.. if I could only figure out a way to make it work on the Ravens this weekend… Been workin’ on that… Being in Baltimore, you’d think it would be easier to smuggle one in to their practice facility, but people I work with keep turning me in!!!! Maybe I need a new disguise… The one dressed as a Buffalo Rumblings reporter just isn’t working…

Went to my first "BB" meeting today... When I stood, introduced myself, and admitted I was a Billsaholic, the other members threw beer cans at me!!

by Cinga on Oct 19, 2010 7:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

There's a TWSS joke in there somewhere...

I just can’t figure out how it works:)

"This is what happens Larry!, This is what happens! "-Walter Sobchak" "Did we give up when the germans bombed pearl harbor!!??"-John Belushi

by BigEasyBillsKrewe on Oct 20, 2010 12:31 AM EDT up reply actions  

“sucks harder than a hoover”

"This is what happens Larry!, This is what happens! "-Walter Sobchak" "Did we give up when the germans bombed pearl harbor!!??"-John Belushi

by BigEasyBillsKrewe on Oct 20, 2010 12:32 AM EDT up reply actions  

That's a

TWHS

There's not a wide receiver who is fast enough, that J.P. Losman can't overthrow him on a fly pattern.

by The Buffalo Kid on Oct 20, 2010 1:34 AM EDT up reply actions  

I understand the snark, folks, but I’m not going to stop writing football articles because the Bills suck harder than a Hoover. :)

An article that would have been a good subject would have been a mid college season look at Locker Luck and Mallett and your thoughts on each so far.

There's not a wide receiver who is fast enough, that J.P. Losman can't overthrow him on a fly pattern.

by The Buffalo Kid on Oct 20, 2010 7:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

We like to idealize Oher here, but he has looked a lot rougher at LT this year than he did at RT last year. Still better than what we got, but not an elite LT yet.

by greysquirrel on Oct 19, 2010 1:31 PM EDT reply actions  

My fantasy team hopes not.

I dont expect the Bills to win, so Flacco and Rice better get me some points

by NotReadytoRock on Oct 19, 2010 1:33 PM EDT reply actions  

That game was interesting to watch

and, like you, I couldn’t help notice Oher and how disappointing he played. I was surprised how weak the Ravens running attack was in general (where was our old pal Willis?) and Flacco, well……great arm but I’ve never been too impressed with his accuracy.

 Still, smarting from the loss to the Pats and having home field advantage, this could be ugly Sunday (aren’t most of our games?). As far as your headline, “Can The Bills Find A Pass Rush?” I’ll believe it when I see it.

by ccthemovieman on Oct 19, 2010 1:43 PM EDT reply actions  

HAHA

As much as we suck on D Royal can´t even put 2 feet down in the end zone by himself (Titans) even if the Defense forgets about him and we´re fighting for a playoff spot!!!! with the game on the line..

by rick p on Oct 19, 2010 2:12 PM EDT reply actions  

So…Oher has trouble with speed rushers and the first name that jumps to mind isn’t Aaron Maybin? Unlike Maybin’s pathetic, excuse of a spin move he actually does have a good burst. Time to let him use it.

It can always get worse. Let me tell you how.

by Ron From NM on Oct 19, 2010 2:33 PM EDT via mobile reply actions  

That was my thought...

he is a speed threat at least, I am starting to doubt Nix and Gailey on Maybin. I dont see how he can be worse than what we have seen at OLB. Stop playing him at DE on pass downs and then remark on how he isn’t getting himself on the field due to not able to play the run well enough. No LB on this D (except maybe Poz) is playing well against the run, I think there is something else going on. I see talent and athletism in Maybin, I dont understand why he’s in the doghouse. C. Ellis played the best game this year for any Bills LB and he was let go. I think Edwards might be the under-lying reason, I believe he is not very good at all and determining who should play.

Act like a sober human being, not a drunk Internet username. -- Brian Galliford

by NorCal BillsFan on Oct 19, 2010 4:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

Congrats to everyone!

We didn’t lose on Sunday!!

Each tiny crumb of good news is immediately followed with a swift kick to the nuts.

by thekotton on Oct 19, 2010 2:38 PM EDT reply actions  

Only thing worth watching

is to see how the young guys like Moats and Coleman (guess I have given up on Maybin) are developing. I pray that Carrington and Wang and Troup show something too this year to kind of give some direction for the off season. Please let our last draft class give us something so I can have a little faith.

Why do they put the Gideon Bibles only in the bedrooms, where it's usually too late, and not in the barroom downstairs? ~Christopher Morley, Contribution to a Contribution

by garcia76 on Oct 19, 2010 2:43 PM EDT reply actions  

Mr. Wang

I have high hopes for him.

Really I just want him to be decent so I can justify buying a Wang jersey.

Each tiny crumb of good news is immediately followed with a swift kick to the nuts.

by thekotton on Oct 19, 2010 3:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

Mr. Wang

I have high hopes for him.

Really I just want him to be decent

TWSS!

The Chan Plan – I believe in cutting, trading, or releasing my starters….and if they really suck, sign them to an extension.

The NIx plan - "We've got to dig our way out"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0VjPNKc0VsU

by Joe P. on Oct 19, 2010 7:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

couldn’t agree more!

by dgrid on Oct 19, 2010 3:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

The Bills wont find a pass-rush (DC Edwards stinks)...

but maybe, just maybe, somehow the pass-rush finds the Bills defense sometime this year with a player or two deciding enough is enough.

Act like a sober human being, not a drunk Internet username. -- Brian Galliford

by NorCal BillsFan on Oct 19, 2010 4:03 PM EDT reply actions  

Why does George Edwards “stink”? Because his defense sucks after five games of trying to put in an entirely new scheme?

There’s a ridiculous mob mentality theme flying around with pretty much everyone Bills-related right now, and I get why. But man alive, sometimes I just can’t wrap my mind around the lack of objectivity. We didn’t even call AARON MAYBIN a bust after five games!

by Brian Galliford on Oct 19, 2010 4:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

Stink maybe a little extreme at this point

but there is nothing wrong for pointing out the pie on his face before it becomes the pie cart. Things need to be corrected on defense immediately. When our team becomes known for lack of a defense Vs our Offense, there is something glaringly wrong.

YOU ARE OUT of you kuku fufu mine craker laker Flaber baber FUNKI chunki brain. WE want to winn every year -- abayarde

by VanScottM on Oct 19, 2010 6:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

Point is that any defensive coach is not going to look good running a 3-4 with the players the Bills have on the roster

The Chan Plan – I believe in cutting, trading, or releasing my starters….and if they really suck, sign them to an extension.

The NIx plan - "We've got to dig our way out"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0VjPNKc0VsU

by Joe P. on Oct 19, 2010 7:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

Finding Pass Rush

Where? I’m all for finding a pass rush. Maybe if we played Maybin more? Could it really hurt? If DC hasn’t found it yet, who’s gonna? Like stated above, pass rusher isn’t on team yet.

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by buffalobacker on Oct 19, 2010 5:18 PM EDT reply actions  

Pass rush this Sunday?? Why sure!

It CAN happen. Obviously our front guys provide ZERO pass rush and Poz just runs into a pile of O-lineman when he does blitz. So………..
since our D-backfield is so awesome (allegedly) we need to start shooting Whitner and the boys in from the outside to throw Flacco’s game off. I really think that will work.
But that will expose poser’s like corner and (insert name here) on one-on-one coverage.

Nah……. we won’t try that.

"Adversity is an opportunity for heroism." Marv Levy.

by SERGEANT MAJOR THOR on Oct 19, 2010 5:57 PM EDT reply actions  

It kills me

that we are not going all out after QB’s.

We should be attacking teams like the Jets do, especially when we are down like we always are.

Show me the Baby!

by billsoferie on Oct 19, 2010 8:42 PM EDT reply actions  

Give Maybin a chance to play!

Can we please get him on the field so that we know a little more about him? He has speed…he is umpteen times faster than Kelsay…hate to harp on #90 and his great play…but the guy sucks…and he acts like he is trying but really he plays not to get hurt and to make effort but not make the play…still waiting on the breakdown on the front 7 from the Jacksonville game…I know what I saw and Kelsay is worthless…so please give the youth a chance to learn and grow and jetison this dead weight…Also, how bout some imagination regarding our blitzing…no cb or ss blitzes ever…

by Dingus Day on Oct 19, 2010 10:51 PM EDT reply actions  

i think we actually have some stiff competition for worst team. detroit, oakland, carolina are all pretty awful.

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by chaucer on Oct 20, 2010 2:28 AM EDT reply actions  

More importantly

is which teams need a QB. Detroit is out. Oakland might be gun shy due to the JR pick. Carolina is our biggest rival. Also, Fox will most likely get fired….new coach….new QB. Need to hope they win more games than us.

The Chan Plan – I believe in cutting, trading, or releasing my starters….and if they really suck, sign them to an extension.

The NIx plan - "We've got to dig our way out"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0VjPNKc0VsU

by Joe P. on Oct 20, 2010 1:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

Am I crazy for being excited to see what Coleman can do?

I’m honestly looking forward to watching him on Sunday. I’m not quite as excited about Moats if he even dresses this week.

Is this what my Sunday has come down to now? Hoping UDFA’s can make an impact in our games…..sigh

by lonestar_ak on Oct 20, 2010 2:38 PM EDT reply actions  

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