Bills Hang On For First Win Of Year, 14-12 Over Lions
by MattRichWarren on Nov 14, 2010 4:21 PM EST
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1-8 never felt so good.
George Wilson recovered an onside kick with 13 seconds left. Fred Jackson had his best game of the season. Ryan Fitzpatrick did not throw any interceptions, and the Buffalo Bills' defense stepped up in a big way as the Bills notched their first win of the season against the Detroit Lions.
First of all - let's take a deep breath. The Bills will not join the 2008 Lions or the 1976 Tampa Bay Buccaneers as the only winless teams post-merger.
Sigh. That's better.
The Lions fought hard to the end, scoring a touchdown with 19 seconds remaining. They converted three fourth downs on the final drive, which set up a game-tying two point conversion attempt. Buffalo's defense held, though, and forced Lions QB Shaun Hill into a bad pass. Following the onside kick, the Bills took a knee to end it.
The real story of the game was the running game. When the weather changed at halftime, making conditions slick and wet, the Bills responded. Jackson reeled off a 39-yard run, then capped the drive with a 16-yard touchdown on a shovel pass. Jackson was electric, running for 133 yards on 25 carries and adding a rushing touchdown to his receiving score. With C.J. Spiller knocked out early in the game, Jackson carried the bulk of the rushing load, being spelled infrequently by newly-signed Quinton Ganther.
The Lions did their best job to win their first game on the road in 25 tries. They turned the ball over just once - on a great play by Donte Whitner tipping the ball to Dwan Edwards for the interception - but committed 11 penalties for 60 yards in key situations. Hill had 50 passing attempts, as the Bills shut down the Lions' run game, holding them to 76 yards on 26 carries. Kyle Williams was all over the field, and Chris Kelsay made several nice plays as well.
The Bills had miscues of their own - a Leodis McKelvin punt return for a touchdown was called back thanks to a holding call, Rian Lindell missed a field goal, and Jackson was stuffed on fourth and one early in the first quarter - but we'll have time to talk about that later. This evening, enjoy a win, Bills fans.
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WHOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
"My favorite unmentioned thing about Luck is that he wears #12. Hmm. As Tecmo Super Bowl would put it, perhaps the second coming of "QB Bills"?" - dinendal7
Im sure there are some relieved Bills players and coaches in that locker room.
Congrats to the Bills for joining the W column in 2010.
Own the blame Mr Wilson.
by norcaliangelsfan on Nov 14, 2010 4:25 PM EST reply actions
A Win is a Win!!!
As ugly as it was it goes into the books as a victory!!
"The world ends when you‘re dead. Until then, you got more punishment in store. Stand it like a man…And give some back."
-- Al Swearingen (Ian McShane), "Deadwood"
Oh and
Congrats Coach! Congrats Nix! The new regime breaks the ice!
"My favorite unmentioned thing about Luck is that he wears #12. Hmm. As Tecmo Super Bowl would put it, perhaps the second coming of "QB Bills"?" - dinendal7
Speechless....
my wife just told me, “wake up…. It’s time for the game to start”…..
Went to my first "BB" meeting today... When I stood, introduced myself, and admitted I was a Billsaholic, the other members threw beer cans at me!!
Hahaha
Choirs of Angels are singing Hallelujah. ;-)
The player I would like least at #9 would be my sister’s cat, Captain Creamsicle. She does have a great work ethic and agility, but I’m really concerned that at 9 lbs., she’s too small to play safety in the NFL. She also bites way too often on play action and is easily distracted by someone waving string in the crowd. Lastly, her wonderlic score was pretty awful, answering "meow meow meow" for most of the questions- Dr. Brackish Okun
Phew.
Anyone else have flashbacks of the Cowboys Monday night game? My wife start celebrating after the failed 2-pt conversion and I had to settle her down. Thank goodness we recovered the onsides kick. I couldn’t have take another bizarre last minute collapse.
by greysquirrel on Nov 14, 2010 4:30 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
no doubt.
with this team, never assume it’s over until it is.
when we took the lead against the titans, we were all celebrating, one of my friends wives said does this mean we win?
I said as long as the titans don’t run it back for a touchdown and that is highly unlikely :)
you know the rest
There's not a wide receiver who is fast enough, that J.P. Losman can't overthrow him on a fly pattern.
by The Buffalo Kid on Nov 15, 2010 2:24 AM EST up reply actions
Awesome.
Who cares if it was a little ugly at times, we did it. Fred-o did it. We ALL did it.
I really doubt we’ve affected our chance at getting a decent QB, either. Will the Cowboys really go winless? Will the Panthers want a QB? Not sure about most of the two win teams, either, and I got the feeling Detroit’s getting another two wins this year anyway. Then again, we’re getting one or two ourselves …
I think the Panthers need a QB.
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by MattRichWarren on Nov 14, 2010 4:31 PM EST up reply actions
Hmmm...
While part of me thinks they don’t want to admit defeat on the pickle man this quickly, good point. So I think we need to hope that Luck and Locker are in, or else they pull a win out of their … wherever wins hide these days. (Of course I’m with everybody on Luck. Even if he does need to change his # next year…)
by Orlando John on Nov 14, 2010 4:35 PM EST up reply actions
could you imagine if the Panthers take a QB in top 3 after Nix claimed to be a fool for passing on Clausen in the second? If Nix took Clausen in the 2nd then took Luck in the top 2 his head would be on a pike. if the Panthers do decide to go Luck it will be a serious validation of Nix’s (and most other GM’s) eye for passing on Clausen twice and repudiation of Mel Kiper’s claim that teams would regret passing on him.
I can’t imagine, if the Panthers have any shred of faith in Clausen, that they take Luck at the top of the draft.
"My favorite unmentioned thing about Luck is that he wears #12. Hmm. As Tecmo Super Bowl would put it, perhaps the second coming of "QB Bills"?" - dinendal7
I can’t imagine, if the Panthers have any shred of faith in Clausen, that they take Luck at the top of the draft.
crossing my fingers….
by silverstreak3k on Nov 14, 2010 5:03 PM EST up reply actions
Yep
That’s the biggest sticking point. A new coaching staff will want their own guy, most likely….
~K
"As the governor of Louisiana once said, the only way Chris Kelsay can lose his job is if he got caught in bed with a dead girl or a live boy."
Any confirmation...
I seen a couple articles about Luck wanting to pick and choose the team he wants to go to (ala Eli Manning). Anyone else heard this?
The best way to take any of these types of articles, along with the “will he or won’t he” ones is with one gigantic grain of salt. Unless you read a direct quote from him or maybe his dad, I wouldn’t think it has any merit.
by Dr. Brackish Okun on Nov 14, 2010 8:23 PM EST up reply actions
Yeah that was speculated this weekend.
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by MattRichWarren on Nov 14, 2010 10:21 PM EST up reply actions
I'd be wary of a QB who only spent 2 years playing in college
who wants to pick his own team. That would strongly suggest to me “headcase” and a QB who is a headcase could be the next JaMarcus Russell/Ryan Leaf type bust.
Jimmy Clausen
No matter what you think of him, unless the Panthers flush everything, they drafted the 3rd QB last year. He was their first overall pick. They won’t take another next year.
by Tom LeValley on Nov 14, 2010 4:43 PM EST up reply actions
I am putting my eggs in that basket for now, and keeping my fingers crossed
CONGRATS BILLS !!!!!
The new ERA begins now!!!
Please base your arguments in provable facts instead of pulling stuff out of your rear. -CanadianBillsFan- This is why talk is cheap because the supply always exceeds the demand.
We need to get the first overall pick to get Luck. However, if he doesn’t declare, I don’t care, but if he is, we’d damn best get him.
The defense played for all intents and purposes a great game by their standard and really kept our lead. I HATED the gameplan in the fourth quarter which was way too conservative, Dick Jauron-like football ‘not trying to win the game but avoid losing it’-mentality.
"The one commonality in both places (Oakland and Buffalo) is an aging owner who keeps interfering too much. Ralph Wilson continually butts his nose in the football operation and tells the team who to draft"
by BillsfanfromDenmark on Nov 14, 2010 4:43 PM EST up reply actions
Gameplan in 4 Qtr too conservative?
We went for the homerun nail in the coffin bomb to Steve Johnson didn’t we? But Fitzy under threw it. So they tried.
by SpiderWeb Sleeves on Nov 14, 2010 9:52 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
I think the Panthers need a QB.
but,but Jimmy Clausen is a can’t miss prospect, so many people said so.
There's not a wide receiver who is fast enough, that J.P. Losman can't overthrow him on a fly pattern.
by The Buffalo Kid on Nov 14, 2010 4:46 PM EST up reply actions
And CJ Spiller is the next Chris Johnson...
by twoeightnine on Nov 14, 2010 4:47 PM EST up reply actions
more like reggie bush lite
There's not a wide receiver who is fast enough, that J.P. Losman can't overthrow him on a fly pattern.
by The Buffalo Kid on Nov 14, 2010 4:54 PM EST up reply actions
Amp Lee?
Trung Canidate?
~K
"As the governor of Louisiana once said, the only way Chris Kelsay can lose his job is if he got caught in bed with a dead girl or a live boy."
i was gonna say trung
There's not a wide receiver who is fast enough, that J.P. Losman can't overthrow him on a fly pattern.
by The Buffalo Kid on Nov 14, 2010 4:59 PM EST up reply actions
fellas
why dont we let the guy get some run before we declare him a bust. yeesh. Jahvid Best who is supposedly hands down better than Spiller gained 2.1 yards per carry against our historically lame run D. Enjoy the win. Guys we like to trash like Chris Kelsay and Donte Whitner played lights out today. Dare I say thats two good back to back games in a row for Kelsay and Whitner continues a nice season. Lay off the guy and enjoy the win.
"My favorite unmentioned thing about Luck is that he wears #12. Hmm. As Tecmo Super Bowl would put it, perhaps the second coming of "QB Bills"?" - dinendal7
by poz on Nov 14, 2010 5:02 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
sorry poz,
the hamstring is just one more thing for me.
There's not a wide receiver who is fast enough, that J.P. Losman can't overthrow him on a fly pattern.
by The Buffalo Kid on Nov 14, 2010 5:07 PM EST up reply actions
thats fine
but you’d think Ryan Fitzpatrick, Roscoe Parrish, and Steve Johnson are very stark examples of guys who fans have come to rely on as producers this season years after doing nothing. Spiller has been in the league for 9 games, a bunch of them behind two veteran players with productive pasts, and a coach who is clearly not intent on getting him involved just yet.
"My favorite unmentioned thing about Luck is that he wears #12. Hmm. As Tecmo Super Bowl would put it, perhaps the second coming of "QB Bills"?" - dinendal7
i just get irked by rookies who holdout for more money, they get extra criticism.
There's not a wide receiver who is fast enough, that J.P. Losman can't overthrow him on a fly pattern.
by The Buffalo Kid on Nov 14, 2010 5:11 PM EST up reply actions
no I hear ya
just remember the grass is always greener
I had high hopes for that kid [Jahvid Best] but he hasn’t shown me anything since that Philly game.
Thats from a fanpost up on the Lions blog. Its always easy to have no patience with your own guy and to be down on your own guys. But CJ has a lot of talent, we should give him some time to show it. Especially considering he didnt hold out that long, we already had Fred and Marshawn, and hes a really good kid who seems like he wants to be a part of a winning Buffalo team.
"My favorite unmentioned thing about Luck is that he wears #12. Hmm. As Tecmo Super Bowl would put it, perhaps the second coming of "QB Bills"?" - dinendal7
by poz on Nov 14, 2010 5:14 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
I really don’t understand why anyone gets worked up when a player tries to get what they can get. Not to make this a socio-economic issue, but if you are not capital, then you are selling your time and activity to someone who is going to make money off of you. Everyone of you better be doing your damndest to get every penny you are worth.
Totally agree with this. I never understood why fans get mad a players for holding out when front offices are just as much at fault. They could easily end any holdout by paying the player who’s not yet under contract. If they were really concerned about getting them on the field, they’d start negotiations in April instead of waiting to see what other teams end up paying their players.
by Dr. Brackish Okun on Nov 14, 2010 8:28 PM EST up reply actions
It's why there needs to be a slotting system IMO.
but whatever.
Own the blame Mr Wilson.
by norcaliangelsfan on Nov 14, 2010 8:29 PM EST up reply actions
Especially since NFL "contracts" are
so heavily stacked against the players. The only way for a player to protect themselves is to get as much money up front as possible. Have guaranteed contracts and make the owners buy insurance rather than having the players hold all of the risk of injury and doubt you’d see as many holdouts by rookies.
well said poz
lets give CJ at least a chance to actually get a bunch of carries in a game and learn the ropes before we start the mass movement to the gallows
Where else would you rather be than right here right now - Marv Levy
oh yeah
it was a good game by whitner and kelsay. Whitner has been playing decent mostly this season, he has been getting too much grief when it isn’t warranted.
But Maybust deserves everything he gets.
There's not a wide receiver who is fast enough, that J.P. Losman can't overthrow him on a fly pattern.
by The Buffalo Kid on Nov 14, 2010 5:10 PM EST up reply actions
Maybin on the other hand
its a bit different when your not even capable of being activated on a team with no OLB talent two years after being drafted. Not being asked to dress for games is very concerning.
"My favorite unmentioned thing about Luck is that he wears #12. Hmm. As Tecmo Super Bowl would put it, perhaps the second coming of "QB Bills"?" - dinendal7
yes
and so did Denver, and SF. All teams in the hunt for the #1 pick. This narrows the list some, as with Dallas it was not just the win, but the manner in which they beat a good Giants team. I would not be surprised to see them pull out some wins down the stretch now.
This leaves the Lions, Bengals, and Panthers still as contenders for the first pick.
Makes next weeks game with the bengals important in a different way.
Please base your arguments in provable facts instead of pulling stuff out of your rear. -CanadianBillsFan- This is why talk is cheap because the supply always exceeds the demand.
You have to figure that
Lions would take O-Line or Defense. No way they take a QB.
Bengals may well be interested in a QB, but would likely be more intereted in a development prospect – maybe a running back.
Panthers need just about anything – but will probably give Clausen more of a chance
The bengals would definitely take a QB given the opportunity. Palmer is owed a ton of money next season and it would make it that much easier for them to cut him and start anew.
by Dr. Brackish Okun on Nov 15, 2010 11:39 AM EST up reply actions
We are talking about a Mike Brown run team
he’s cheap, but he’s not exactly the most rational owner. He’d probably take Cam Newton
just because there is no salary cap to worry about
does not mean they are not still on the hook for the guaranteed part of his contract. Anybody know what that amount is?
Please base your arguments in provable facts instead of pulling stuff out of your rear. -CanadianBillsFan- This is why talk is cheap because the supply always exceeds the demand.
Indictment of the previous regime.
I would not be surprised if Maybin is not in a Bills uniform next year. In fact, I’d welcome it. If I were him, I’d be going apesh*t to figure a way out to crack the lineup. Instead we get stories about terrible rap songs and waterfront condos. I can’t stand him.
Also, nice win today, regardless of the ugly factor. Oh, for the days when a Bills win was a virtual given.
by Home Run Throw-up on Nov 14, 2010 8:16 PM EST up reply actions
Why should he care?
He’s getting paid either way.
Own the blame Mr Wilson.
by norcaliangelsfan on Nov 14, 2010 8:23 PM EST up reply actions
Yeah, I know......
Just makes me sad a little bit. This team used to have ballers like Talley, Bennett, Spielman at LB. Now we have this.
Okay, getting off the nostalgia train now……
by Home Run Throw-up on Nov 14, 2010 8:33 PM EST up reply actions
Reggie Torbor is getting better. Look Out!!
by SpiderWeb Sleeves on Nov 14, 2010 9:55 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Jeesh
Can’t make a joke about this guy, eh?
~K
"As the governor of Louisiana once said, the only way Chris Kelsay can lose his job is if he got caught in bed with a dead girl or a live boy."
Negativity of any kind will not be tolerated by Poz
Atleast he’s consistant :-)
Own the blame Mr Wilson.
by norcaliangelsfan on Nov 14, 2010 5:58 PM EST up reply actions
hey now
I tolerate negativity about Demetrius Bell! haha
"My favorite unmentioned thing about Luck is that he wears #12. Hmm. As Tecmo Super Bowl would put it, perhaps the second coming of "QB Bills"?" - dinendal7
Bel played decent....
loved one play, where slapped a DE in the head and he fell down!!!
Went to my first "BB" meeting today... When I stood, introduced myself, and admitted I was a Billsaholic, the other members threw beer cans at me!!
yea that was pretty hilarious on replay
"My favorite unmentioned thing about Luck is that he wears #12. Hmm. As Tecmo Super Bowl would put it, perhaps the second coming of "QB Bills"?" - dinendal7
There is nothing funny about Trung Candidate :)
"My favorite unmentioned thing about Luck is that he wears #12. Hmm. As Tecmo Super Bowl would put it, perhaps the second coming of "QB Bills"?" - dinendal7
NO
:)
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by buffalobacker on Nov 14, 2010 7:06 PM EST up reply actions
People tend to forget
that the Titans were mocked mercilessly for taking Chris Johnson that early. No one expected Johnson to be a successful pro – he was seen as only a speed guy.
Also don’t forget that Darren McFadden was looking like a major bust and has broken out this year. Don’t bet against talent in the long run.
Actually the Cowboys
Do have a win, they beat up on the Texans. Id imagine the Panthers will still with Clausen for at least one more year.
"We knew it could get out of hand..." Dick Jauron following 56-10 loss to New England.
I mistyped that...
I meant, I don’t think they’ll lose out — though it’s totally true that they’re not likely to draft a QB and cut the legs out from Romo. I really do hope you’re right with Carolina, though.
by Orlando John on Nov 14, 2010 4:39 PM EST up reply actions
Clausen
Is slightly improving, he didn’t look to bad today. The Panthers have a whole lot of issues and I don’t think the QB is the biggest one in this draft.
"We knew it could get out of hand..." Dick Jauron following 56-10 loss to New England.
The pickle is Clauwful
There's not a wide receiver who is fast enough, that J.P. Losman can't overthrow him on a fly pattern.
by The Buffalo Kid on Nov 14, 2010 4:47 PM EST up reply actions
to be fair to clausen his coach is a lame duck, the team is severely mismanaged, and they have a severe lack fo playmakers just like we do so I am willing to give him a chance. Remember Peyton threw the most picks ever for a rookie his first year as well so I will pass judgement on him for the moment anyway
Where else would you rather be than right here right now - Marv Levy
totally agree
i think it would be borderline stupid to give up on clausen so quickly.
by silverstreak3k on Nov 14, 2010 5:18 PM EST up reply actions
unless, like me....
you gave up on him before the draft…. :-)
Went to my first "BB" meeting today... When I stood, introduced myself, and admitted I was a Billsaholic, the other members threw beer cans at me!!
he reminded me of Trent
that’s why i didn’t want to draft him before trent developed ptsd
trent actually played better than the pickle as a rookie.
There's not a wide receiver who is fast enough, that J.P. Losman can't overthrow him on a fly pattern.
by The Buffalo Kid on Nov 14, 2010 6:36 PM EST up reply actions
With a Cowboys loss, the Bills would be picking third behind Dalls in top spot and Panthers at number 2.
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How do the tiebreakers work in these situations Ive been wondering that. Is it strength of schedule. If there are two one win teams it cant be division record or anything with wins or losses.
Strength of schedule is the first tiebreaker.
by greysquirrel on Nov 14, 2010 5:10 PM EST up reply actions
I thought that head-to-head was the first tiebreaker? Not that it would matter in the case of the Bills and Panthers.
by Dr. Brackish Okun on Nov 14, 2010 8:33 PM EST up reply actions
head to head is a tiebreaker for playoffs but not the draft.
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by MattRichWarren on Nov 14, 2010 10:22 PM EST up reply actions
it is
strength of schedule. the bills have a very hard schedule, so basically the pick behind anyone that has the same record.
by silverstreak3k on Nov 14, 2010 5:11 PM EST up reply actions
chalk one up
its a good day…bills got a win, dallas won, and SF won. now if we can get carolina to win one, which may be tough, we could be in good shape….as long as we don’t upset cinci next week.
I wish I was at the game today. I’m sure the fans are freaking going crazy.
Lots of people calling in sick tomorrow.
"Adversity is an opportunity for heroism." Marv Levy.
by SERGEANT MAJOR THOR on Nov 14, 2010 4:37 PM EST reply actions
After that cold rain, most will probably be telling the truth if they call in sick.
There's not a wide receiver who is fast enough, that J.P. Losman can't overthrow him on a fly pattern.
by The Buffalo Kid on Nov 14, 2010 4:48 PM EST up reply actions
2-8
After we crush the Bungles next week.
Be miserable or motivate yourself. What's to be done it's always YOUR choice.
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by MtJulietTNBillsFan on Nov 14, 2010 4:39 PM EST reply actions
As long as we don't let Palmer
Look as good as we let Cutler look.
"We knew it could get out of hand..." Dick Jauron following 56-10 loss to New England.
Taking the Bills against the point spread, anyway...
This is an exciting team this year, and amazingly it’s mostly for the right reasons. Or at least largely.
by Orlando John on Nov 14, 2010 4:46 PM EST up reply actions
please no
2 wins will cost us Luck or Cameron. 1-15 all the way !
Cam Newton
Cam Newton i meant, if he comes out from Auburn. Luck is still choice 1
With all of the red flags around Newton
I’d steer clear and not even consider going there. Guy already has a felony record and people with records of getting paid in college tend to not be all that good in the NFL
Newton's
first name is Cameron, Cam for short.
Be miserable or motivate yourself. What's to be done it's always YOUR choice.
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by MtJulietTNBillsFan on Nov 14, 2010 11:06 PM EST up reply actions
Cameron
ewww…
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by NordicBillsfan on Nov 15, 2010 1:33 AM EST up reply actions
Just relived to be knowing we’ll not be 0 and 16
Those players have been playing with plenty of heart lately and haven’t been playing like a win-less team…. whilst maybe not overly blessed with natural talent they definitely deserve some support and after tonight, I’m pleased they’ve got some kind of reward for their effort.
Worry about the draft later.
"I spent my money on women, booze and flash cars.... the rest I squandered"- George Best
I wish Marshawn Lynch was still on this team, as opposed to a 4th rd pick. There I said it, and that will be the last comment on that subject from me.
Congrats Edwards on a pretty good D showing. Nice blitz calls!
The darkest hour is upon us.
Why?
~K
"As the governor of Louisiana once said, the only way Chris Kelsay can lose his job is if he got caught in bed with a dead girl or a live boy."
Because they held the Lions to 79 yards rushing, and those blitzes definitely led to hurried throws. ;)
The darkest hour is upon us.
i think the question was about lynch
not the defense.
by silverstreak3k on Nov 14, 2010 5:24 PM EST up reply actions
Marshawn Inch
He sucks. Seattle gave him he ball 3 straight times on the 2 yard line and he could not get in. Leaving up to his true name. Marshawn Inch.
by SpiderWeb Sleeves on Nov 14, 2010 10:00 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
That would be the worst thing to ever happen to this team.
by twoeightnine on Nov 14, 2010 5:02 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Yeah...
we probably will get two more, one because we step up against one of the Ohio teams and one because a playoff team is benching their starters.
Those probably won’t ruin us, though.
by Orlando John on Nov 14, 2010 5:05 PM EST up reply actions
After these past couple of weeks
beating Cleveland appears to be totally out of the question.
Cincinatti appears to be in turmoil though.
If the team has the proper personnel people in charge, they’ll draft well regardless of where they pick. If the team has inadequate losers employed in the front office, they’ll blow the draft picking 1st or 31st. Wins are what will get the franchise moving, not frivolous draft position.
"There's only one C.J. Spiller." -Buddy Nix
by Port Royal on Nov 14, 2010 5:08 PM EST up reply actions 12 recs
Agreed. I’ll take the first round pick, but I’d prefer feeling better about the 53 guys we already have than about the one guy we might draft.
by greysquirrel on Nov 14, 2010 5:12 PM EST up reply actions
For the most part, I agree
rec’d
~K
"As the governor of Louisiana once said, the only way Chris Kelsay can lose his job is if he got caught in bed with a dead girl or a live boy."
Rec'd as well
Because commonsense is always welcome.
The player I would like least at #9 would be my sister’s cat, Captain Creamsicle. She does have a great work ethic and agility, but I’m really concerned that at 9 lbs., she’s too small to play safety in the NFL. She also bites way too often on play action and is easily distracted by someone waving string in the crowd. Lastly, her wonderlic score was pretty awful, answering "meow meow meow" for most of the questions- Dr. Brackish Okun
its about time it turned green......
Brian is pretty stingy with that feature ……….what does it take like 8 to make it turn green?
Own the blame Mr Wilson.
by norcaliangelsfan on Nov 14, 2010 6:46 PM EST up reply actions
Well if people saw more comments that were green........
they’d probably use it more IMO.
Own the blame Mr Wilson.
by norcaliangelsfan on Nov 14, 2010 7:20 PM EST up reply actions
And if the rec count were, say, 3, we’d have a million green comments, and people would just wait for others to rec it. Cuts both ways. :)
by Brian Galliford on Nov 14, 2010 8:03 PM EST up reply actions
Okay I'll concede that point....
but I’m willing to bet there are atleast a dozen posters who post regularly on here who dont even know about the Rec’d and what they do to comments.
Own the blame Mr Wilson.
by norcaliangelsfan on Nov 14, 2010 8:08 PM EST up reply actions
What about the front page? I dislike that the rec’d posts are still up there for two weeks but we can’t comment on them after 3-4 days.
by Dr. Brackish Okun on Nov 14, 2010 8:44 PM EST up reply actions
If the conversation is still going I can always re-open comments. Email me next time it irritates you. :-)
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by MattRichWarren on Nov 14, 2010 10:22 PM EST up reply actions
I appreciate that, however, rarely do I feel anything I might have to say is worth putting anybody else through any kind of effort to accomplish.
by Dr. Brackish Okun on Nov 14, 2010 10:58 PM EST up reply actions
It’s like three mouse clicks. :-)
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by MattRichWarren on Nov 15, 2010 8:40 AM EST up reply actions
Rec'd
I hope this is the first win of a nice winning streak.
Right now I’m thinking how nice would be to beat the TO and Ochenta y cinco’s Bengals next week. It is time for this team to look forward to Sunday’s next game instead of combine numbers.
I'm a simple man...
At the end of the day, I could care less how bad we looked in a victory, and even more so how good we looked in defeat. At the end of the day, you are judged by W’s and L’s…
That being said, I’m just glad that we cannot be a topic in the “worst team ever” conversation.
"What an inept franchise. Running backs have become for the Bills what wide receivers were for the Millen-era Lions." -- John Morgan of SBNation's Field Gulls
Well, all it takes is one C.J. to start the turnaround!
whew
not 0-16. always a good thing. i guess all those that said the bills were the worst ever to don a uniform can shove it.
Well, they do don one of the worst uniforms.
In the year two thousaaaaaaand.
In the year two thousAAAAAAND!
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by TheAfghanTwilight on Nov 14, 2010 5:18 PM EST up reply actions
haha
very true. when can they redesign those things?
by silverstreak3k on Nov 14, 2010 5:20 PM EST up reply actions
dont have to just go back to the throwbacks full time…now those are some sweet uni’s
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preaching to the choir
im all about the throwbacks.
by silverstreak3k on Nov 14, 2010 5:23 PM EST up reply actions
I’d even take the 1990’s uni’s over these current ones.
by Dr. Brackish Okun on Nov 14, 2010 8:46 PM EST up reply actions
oddly enough
the Bills unis consistently get high marks from league wide fan polls and questionnaires or whatever they are. I think we’re just spoiled because they were so sweet in the 90s.
"My favorite unmentioned thing about Luck is that he wears #12. Hmm. As Tecmo Super Bowl would put it, perhaps the second coming of "QB Bills"?" - dinendal7
Really?
Maybe it’s just my opinion, but the 90’s royal blues were plain and boring, not to mention very similar to the Giants… I’d rather them keep the ones they have then use thoughs, the AFL jerseys are hands down the best though,.
by unBILLievable JJP on Nov 14, 2010 5:35 PM EST up reply actions
I loved the uni from the 90’s. They don’t get a lot of love here though, everyone seems to like the throwbacks. Should have never changed them, they were following a trend in the NFL at the time (Rams, Broncos, Bucs, Pats). At least we didn’t change the logo, which I think is one of the coolest in all of sports..
by Home Run Throw-up on Nov 14, 2010 8:57 PM EST up reply actions
Well, they do don one of the worst uniforms.
Pittsburghs throwbacks, should be called their throwups, truly horrible uniforms
There's not a wide receiver who is fast enough, that J.P. Losman can't overthrow him on a fly pattern.
by The Buffalo Kid on Nov 14, 2010 9:42 PM EST up reply actions
agreed
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by buffalobacker on Nov 15, 2010 2:57 PM EST up reply actions
Does any one else think that there are way too many stripes on our helmets? I think one blue stripe with 2 whites directly next to it would look good. not this 6 stripe BS we had/have.
Absolutely. And what’s with the two different shades of blue? Just looks like the designer was trying too hard. Sometimes less is more.
by Home Run Throw-up on Nov 14, 2010 10:36 PM EST up reply actions
I think it's because of the Bills' original colors...
They were something like powder blue and silver.
The helmets I like, though. The uniforms… they’ve got to go to white pants all the time for one thing, and gawd do they look cheap somehow.
by Orlando John on Nov 15, 2010 3:26 AM EST up reply actions
GF Say's
Gf said Bill’s uni’s are awful, the red socks make our players look short! I’ll take her word for it, i could care less. I do like our helmets though!
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by buffalobacker on Nov 15, 2010 2:59 PM EST up reply actions
sweet sweet victory
Driving back from the Ralph right now. It’s like a gorilla off of everyone’s back.
BILLS WIN!
"Ability without character will lose. The Bills are going to be a team of high character. That stamp I will push very hard. I hope we can convey that to our fans and project something very special to the rest of the nation." - Marv Levy
by BuffaloBlueBlood on Nov 14, 2010 5:10 PM EST via mobile reply actions
YEP
WOOOW
"Ability without character will lose. The Bills are going to be a team of high character. That stamp I will push very hard. I hope we can convey that to our fans and project something very special to the rest of the nation." - Marv Levy
by BuffaloBlueBlood on Nov 14, 2010 5:32 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Could not have broken the spell against a better opponent.
It seems only fitting they avert the likelihood of 0-16 by beating one of last teams they still had a chance against, and them being the same franchise in sole possession of 0-16.
In the year two thousaaaaaaand.
In the year two thousAAAAAAND!
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by TheAfghanTwilight on Nov 14, 2010 5:18 PM EST reply actions
0-8 vs a team with a 24 game road losing streak
It lived down to expectations. Both teams tried to give it away.
What’s with Poz covering Calvin Johnson man to man on that touchdown… after calling a timeout to set the defense? Edwards has to go.
I hate the three man rush.
The Bills need to call play action more than twice a game.
That’s all.
What’s with Poz covering Calvin Johnson man to man on that touchdown… after calling a timeout to set the defense?
I couldn’t tell you…I didn’t get to see the f’ing game. I’m sorry but i’m really perturbed at the blackout rule.
In the year two thousaaaaaaand.
In the year two thousAAAAAAND!
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by TheAfghanTwilight on Nov 14, 2010 8:11 PM EST up reply actions
You didnt miss much in terms of good NFL competition.............
Own the blame Mr Wilson.
by norcaliangelsfan on Nov 14, 2010 8:12 PM EST up reply actions
well I saw
it and I couldn’t tell you either! Total mismatch/coverage breakdown. That last series by Detroit contained some of the worst coverage gaffs by our D this year (and that’s sayin’ something).
We are lucky they didn’t hit the 2 pt. conversion or we would have lost in OT the way the D was playing at the end.
What we call our despair is often only the painful eagerness of unfed hope.
That last series by Detroit contained some of the worst coverage gaffs by our D this year (and that’s sayin’ something).
LOL – what’s Poz doign singled up on C.Johnson? well it resulted in a TD so I guess we know that doesn’t work! duh!!
Vintage Buffalo
by J2 on Nov 15, 2010 8:59 AM EST up reply actions
I saw the play on Redzone while visiting family
And everyone in the family was screaming during the play about Poz on Calvin, huge mismatch. F’ing blackout, hate having to rely on my phone and RZC to try and keep track of a game.
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by WABillsfan on Nov 14, 2010 11:43 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Seriously. If you’re gonna have Poz cover a top 5 wideout, you might as well just leave him completely open and have another blitzer.
by Dr. Brackish Okun on Nov 14, 2010 8:49 PM EST up reply actions
It wasn't just that last play either
Poz or a safety was on Johnson pretty much every time he was in the slot. It’s amazing he didn’t do more damage there.
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"As the governor of Louisiana once said, the only way Chris Kelsay can lose his job is if he got caught in bed with a dead girl or a live boy."
couldn’t agree more – that’s just stupid
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by J2 on Nov 15, 2010 8:59 AM EST up reply actions
pick 6 by dallas, looks like they might hit the 2 win column today.
looks like the cowpies are responding to the end of club wade.
There's not a wide receiver who is fast enough, that J.P. Losman can't overthrow him on a fly pattern.
by The Buffalo Kid on Nov 14, 2010 5:18 PM EST reply actions
I’ll take an ugly win over a well played loss any day of the week. Way to hang tough D and what a game by Freddy
Where else would you rather be than right here right now - Marv Levy
best defensive showing this season
There's not a wide receiver who is fast enough, that J.P. Losman can't overthrow him on a fly pattern.
by The Buffalo Kid on Nov 14, 2010 5:19 PM EST up reply actions
Too bad 90% of the fanbase wasn’t “shown” the game.
In the year two thousaaaaaaand.
In the year two thousAAAAAAND!
Current song recommendation: Sam Roberts "Them Kids"
by TheAfghanTwilight on Nov 14, 2010 5:19 PM EST up reply actions
totally agree, if I was in the Buffalo area I dont think I would ever miss a game…although that is easier said than done I guess
Where else would you rather be than right here right now - Marv Levy
I used to get to every game, but it gets harder as you get older, especially if you’re not right in Buffalo. There are too many things that need to be done on the weekend and going to the game is an 8 am – 6 pm affair for us.
In the year two thousaaaaaaand.
In the year two thousAAAAAAND!
Current song recommendation: Sam Roberts "Them Kids"
by TheAfghanTwilight on Nov 14, 2010 8:13 PM EST up reply actions
And solid O-line play today
Very pleased with the team effort. We missed a few chances, but overall I’m proud to be donning my Bills gear here in Michigan
Sometimes it is better to be thought a fool than to speak and leave no doubt!
About the truest thing I've ever heard/read
1-8 never felt so good.
Now no matter what happens the rest of the way through this season I can be pretty happy!
i think the real story is
Chris kelsey and good plays in the same sentence
by Gpluehri on Nov 14, 2010 5:30 PM EST via mobile reply actions
Yeah
without “never seems to make any” in between.
by Tom LeValley on Nov 14, 2010 5:31 PM EST up reply actions
Defense played a nice game. A lot of guys made tough plays, but Kelsay, Williams and Whitner seemed to be all over the field. Some nice corner play too. It’s nice that these guys seem to be figuring it out.
by greysquirrel on Nov 14, 2010 5:40 PM EST up reply actions
Don't forget Poz
He led the team with 11 tackles and 2 assists. 11 tackles in a game! That’s almost unheard of.
Bills fan half way around the world
Uhhh, not really. Dhani Jones, Derrick Johnson and Glover Quin all had more this week.
by Dr. Brackish Okun on Nov 15, 2010 12:50 PM EST up reply actions
why and how
is Dhani Jones still in this league!!
"My favorite unmentioned thing about Luck is that he wears #12. Hmm. As Tecmo Super Bowl would put it, perhaps the second coming of "QB Bills"?" - dinendal7
He needs the platform to promote his TV show?
~K
"As the governor of Louisiana once said, the only way Chris Kelsay can lose his job is if he got caught in bed with a dead girl or a live boy."
Why did they stop blitzing?
For the first time all season we were getting pressure on the QB with the blitz. As soon as the game was on the line we went to the 4 or 3 man rush. When the blitz is working it is the most effective defense.
prediction for 2010 season is 3 and 13
If you want a rationale, its that the other team can score a lot faster if they beat your blitz. We made them use a lot of clock by keep them in front of us.
by greysquirrel on Nov 14, 2010 6:02 PM EST up reply actions
understood but
on the last drive as an example, we let them take it all the way down the field and convert 3 4th downs while never laying a hand on the QB in obvious passing situations. I don’t think we blitzed at all in the 4th quarter.
prediction for 2010 season is 3 and 13
Just posted a fanshot on the front page – Chan Gailey said postgame that Spiller will likely be out next week. Andre Anderson might be getting a phone call.
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didn't I see...
that Joique Bell was cut by Philly??? We also just signed Culcrick too if I remember right…
Went to my first "BB" meeting today... When I stood, introduced myself, and admitted I was a Billsaholic, the other members threw beer cans at me!!
Can I interest you in a fantasy RB, MRW? ;-)
In the year two thousaaaaaaand.
In the year two thousAAAAAAND!
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by TheAfghanTwilight on Nov 15, 2010 9:14 AM EST up reply actions
Not anymore. Darren McFadden plus LeSean McCoy. WR? :-)
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by MattRichWarren on Nov 15, 2010 9:30 PM EST up reply actions
Finally!
I’ve watched my Bills from Denver for 5 years now and this my 2nd favorite moment… After the win in Denver 2008.
"It’s like I’ve always said, don’t tell me about the labor pains, just show me the baby."
- Buddy Nix
I'll take it...but...
We sure let them hang around…still think Mckelvin got shafted on his return for td…corto had a good block…why was poz covering calvin johnson on 4th down? Kyle Williams was awesome…Poz was good, Torbor made some nice plays…looked like a different defense out there…a lot of blitzes…even from the secondary…and Kelsay had a good game…
Just my luck
I’ve gone to the bar for every game this season and watched them lose. Today I couldn’t watch the game because I had to move.
by Stephen Schmidt on Nov 14, 2010 8:03 PM EST reply actions
So it's not really anyone on the team that's the problem.......
It’s you!
Own the blame Mr Wilson.
by norcaliangelsfan on Nov 14, 2010 8:09 PM EST up reply actions
Well, I hope you're ready for it
Because you’re now required to move every Sunday during football season :)
~K
"As the governor of Louisiana once said, the only way Chris Kelsay can lose his job is if he got caught in bed with a dead girl or a live boy."
"INCOMPLETE! INCOMPLETE! INCOMPLETE! INCOMPLETE! INCOMPLETE!"
In the year two thousaaaaaaand.
In the year two thousAAAAAAND!
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by TheAfghanTwilight on Nov 14, 2010 8:13 PM EST reply actions
Yes!
Now I can move up from 10 on the “How are you feeling about the Bills” poll this week.
by Dr. Brackish Okun on Nov 14, 2010 9:25 PM EST reply actions
I was really impressed with the McKelvin today. He got beaten at times, but his recovery and effort, as well as his solid tackling showed me that his development is on track.
He looks like the same player he always does
That’s the concern. He’s always flashed potential and tremendous physical ability, but he’s never put it together completely, nor has he shown any sort of consistency. I don’t think he’s developed his game all that much thus far in his career, actually.
~K
"As the governor of Louisiana once said, the only way Chris Kelsay can lose his job is if he got caught in bed with a dead girl or a live boy."
he's the kind of player
that drives you crazy. He’s very talented but you have to wonder where his head is on gamedays.
Letting the ball carrier out of bounds on their 2’ offense (today’s game), going with his shoulder for the hit therefore whiffing the tackle and allowing the RB to extend a drive (Bears game – Taylor – Olsen TD drive) or biting badly on a pump fake (Jets game) and fumbling a punt today, he was lucky the ball went out of bounds.
I always wonder what is the source of his inconsistency, because he has the talent to be a dominant player.
What CB in the league could stop Brandon Pettigrew from getting out of bounds on that play? Maybe if he had a full head of steam but he was so close in covering him that when he wrapped Pettigrew was running at McKelvin’s arms and not his body. He outweighs him by about 80 pounds.
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by MattRichWarren on Nov 15, 2010 8:43 AM EST up reply actions
Good teams in this league make that play, like the same player did on 3rd and 2 on the final drive of the game when he went low on Best and tackled him for a loss on the open field. which is twice difficult than going down on a guy like Pettigrew.
I’m not asking for perfection but if the Bills want to be a good team, a solid team, they need to take care of the little things.
The same thing happened with Whitner, who I think had a great game, he let Pettigrew gain easy 22 yards beacuse he went with his shoulder and no arms, he jumped him and was tackled after a big gain. After that play and in the third qtr he arm tackled Megatron almost causing a fumble.
Watch the best teams in this league play and they prevent you from gaining that extra yard, they make you fight for every yard you get, I want the opposition to feel the same way when they play us.
I guess you and I disagree about that play, then.
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by MattRichWarren on Nov 15, 2010 9:30 PM EST up reply actions
Are we? I guess.
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by MattRichWarren on Nov 14, 2010 10:24 PM EST up reply actions
I think he meant the Pitt Panthers. Or maybe the Florida Panthers. If not them, then definitely the Grey Panthers.
by Dr. Brackish Okun on Nov 14, 2010 11:06 PM EST up reply actions
The Dillon Panthers
~K
"As the governor of Louisiana once said, the only way Chris Kelsay can lose his job is if he got caught in bed with a dead girl or a live boy."
I dunno, that JD McCoy is a pretty good QB.
by Dr. Brackish Okun on Nov 14, 2010 11:09 PM EST up reply actions
Draft order...
It looks to me like if the season ended today, the Bills would still have the #1 pick. While they do have a tough schedule (.581), Carolina’s is actually tougher (0.594).
Even if New England holds on to win over Pittsburgh, the Bills will have a very slightly easier schedule than Carolina; 84-60 compared to 85-59.
I just added up the records and your numbers don’t match mine. I just count wins at this point in the year since bye weeks skew the numbers a little.
Panthers schedule without including teams Bills also played/will play:
Giants (6)
Bucs (6) x 2
Saints (6) x 2
Niners (3)
Rams (4)
Seahawks (5)
Falcons (7) x 2
Cardinals (3)
59 total wins
Bills schedule without duplicate teams:
Dolphins (5) x 2
Patriots (7) x 2
Jets (7) x 2
Jaguars (5)
Chiefs (5)
Packers (6)
Vikings (3)
Lions (2)
59 total wins
It’s 23 wins shared so I have them both at 82.
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by MattRichWarren on Nov 15, 2010 9:04 AM EST up reply actions
just happy to see a W
I honestly think this team can have a productive last 7 weeks in terms of improving. I just love seeing good coaching paying off and seeing these guys learning the system. I am really excited to see where this regime takes us in the following 2 seasons.Regardless of the Bills record, I just love seeing the improvement. I see it all over the field, and is fun to watch
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is it me ....
To whoever was fortunate enough to watch the game but is this the most emotionally determined played game youve seen in a long time by the Bills especially on the defensive side …. I cant remember the last time this Defense played so good(aside frm the last Lions drive) and with so much emotion …. it seemed like they knew this was there only shot at a win and they laid it all on the line 2day it was amazing!!!! Such a good win!!!!!!!!
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by brebre421 on Nov 14, 2010 11:13 PM EST via mobile reply actions
I agree with you about the defense
they played some inspired football – so did Fred Jackson – I loved watching those guys. Amazingly, every guy on the defensive side of the ball made plays and looked better than they usually do from Bryan Scott and Reggie Corner to Marcus Stroud and Chris Kelsay to Poz and Kyle Williams. Dwan Edwards, Donte, Jairus, Leo, Drayton. And Reggie Torbor! Akin Ayodele, Moats. Great hustle by the D.
"My favorite unmentioned thing about Luck is that he wears #12. Hmm. As Tecmo Super Bowl would put it, perhaps the second coming of "QB Bills"?" - dinendal7
Hard too enjoy as much thanks to the blackout
But……. we WON! Yes! 1-8 feels real damn good right now. Hope we can keep making progress this season but still keep a top 3 pick….
abayarde- "Sunday the Whagon BLASTER IS taking of and the GODZILLA IS IN IT . EVERY BODY AND EVERYTHING IN THE WAY will be CRUSH, VANISH , NON EXISTENCE, PULLVERISE, DESINTEGRADED, The Force is stronger than EVER . THE JEDI IS READY, TO FACE the Dark side."
by WABillsfan on Nov 14, 2010 11:48 PM EST via mobile reply actions
I’m really ticked at the blackout rule. People halfway around the world can pay for the NFL ticket and watch the game, yet those of us in the 180 mile radius can’t watch it because 10,000 tickets didn’t sell.
In the year two thousaaaaaaand.
In the year two thousAAAAAAND!
Current song recommendation: Sam Roberts "Them Kids"
by TheAfghanTwilight on Nov 15, 2010 9:18 AM EST up reply actions
Especially since it’s an uncapped year and they can’t force Ralph to spend money on his team, but they’re forcing us to spend money in order to watch his team. The NFL shows more contempt for its fans than any other sport.
by Dr. Brackish Okun on Nov 15, 2010 10:54 AM EST up reply actions
Funny thing, huh?
Run the ball well and play well enough on defense, and they win the game. Fitzy didn’t even have a great day passing.
In the year two thousaaaaaaand.
In the year two thousAAAAAAND!
Current song recommendation: Sam Roberts "Them Kids"
by TheAfghanTwilight on Nov 15, 2010 9:20 AM EST reply actions
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