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Bills 13, Browns 6: Fred Jackson, Bills Defense Shine In Victory

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After two consecutive brutal losses, the Buffalo Bills used a consistent ground attack and some very strange Cleveland Browns play-calling to eke out a 13-6 win on a cold, rainy day at Ralph Wilson Stadium.

Fred Jackson rushed for 112 yards on 29 carries, and the Bills ran for 192 yards as a team, with C.J. Spiller (33 yards) and Ryan Fitzpatrick (49 yards) adding in healthy chunks of yardage as well. Thanks to their solid rushing attack, the Bills held the ball for roughly 36 minutes in the game, and David Nelson hauled in an 11-yard touchdown reception in the second quarter to give the Bills the only lead they'd need in this one.

Fitzpatrick completed 14 of 23 passes for 142 yards and the aforementioned touchdown in the victory; he's now thrown a touchdown pass in 13 consecutive games, and has 21 touchdown passes on the season. Stevie Johnson hauled in five passes for 42 yards, and Bills tight ends Jonathan Stupar and David Martin combined for four catches and 58 yards themselves.

Defensively, the Bills held an opponent without a touchdown since Week 5 of 2009, when - you guessed it - the Browns beat the Bills, 6-3. Leodis McKelvin intercepted a Jake Delhomme pass late in the fourth quarter to help put the game out of reach, and Arthur Moats forced a Delhomme fumble on a sack; the fumble was recovered by Bryan Scott. Delhomme's 20 passing attempts helped the Bills overcome a strong (if fumble-prone) outing from Peyton Hillis, who rushed for 108 yards on 21 carries.

The Bills improve to 3-10 on the season. They'll wrap up their 2010 campaign with three straight division contests, starting next Sunday in Miami.

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I didn't understand a lot of their play calls

They had 3rd and 3 three or four times and threw it each time that I saw.

by stetzwebs on Dec 12, 2010 4:05 PM EST reply actions  

if you’re talking about Bills play calls, I had a similar reaction. 2nd half of the 4th quarter, playcalling got unusually predictable. I normally like our calls, but we were in something of an unusual position: trying to hold a lead with time winding down. But I thought we were far too conservative: run run pass pun, run run pass punt, until: run run . . . run and FJ got the first down that more or less clinched it.

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by Job 7:6 on Dec 12, 2010 8:17 PM EST up reply actions  

your user name...

and sig, begs the question, “why”???

Went to my first "BB" meeting today... When I stood, introduced myself, and admitted I was a Billsaholic, the other members threw beer cans at me!!

by Cinga on Dec 12, 2010 8:43 PM EST up reply actions  

Did We Lose?

That's A Spicey Meatball! GO BILLS

by buffalobacker on Dec 13, 2010 1:13 AM EST up reply actions  

hahahahahaha – awesome.

We pass more than we rush – we gotta run more!

We run more than we pass – we gotta pass more!

South Park showed us the benefit of Captain Hindsight

by J2 on Dec 13, 2010 9:09 AM EST up reply actions  

David Nelson catch was amazing

Stupar looked good today and Moats is the man

"The Buffalo Bills have just exploded all over the Cincinnati Bangles"
-Steve Tasker-

by billsoferie on Dec 12, 2010 4:05 PM EST reply actions  

Moats is the man

Looking more and more the man who ended Farve’s consecutive games streak.

Kylesaurus Rex Williams Pro Bowl 2010

by The Buffalo Kid on Dec 12, 2010 4:06 PM EST up reply actions  

Rec'd?

Who?

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by buffalobacker on Dec 13, 2010 1:14 AM EST up reply actions  

lol i think he thinks by saying ’rec’d’ it actually gets rec’d…

by trademark on Dec 14, 2010 8:29 PM EST up reply actions  

I really like focusing in on him during pass plays.

Hes been playing better and better every week.

Lets Go Buff a lo!!!

by bflo on Dec 12, 2010 8:22 PM EST up reply actions  

Arthur Moats

Looks like he might become a good player for us !

Ending Favres streak, forcing a fumble today – I like this kid so far.

Some promise on a young D.

3 AM Monday morning games all 2010 - that's just dandy !

by Will G on Dec 12, 2010 4:06 PM EST reply actions  

Yep

It seems that Doug Whaley is having an impact on the front office. The Steelers are the kings of taking small school DE’s and turning them into outside LB’s that can rush the passer. Lets hope we can get some production out of Coleman and Batten next year, and maybe Maybin will figure out that he isnt at Penn State anymore, and we could have some solid OLBs.

by Eric Murawski on Dec 12, 2010 4:08 PM EST up reply actions  

Great

Way to go Buffalo, I’m a little surprised they puled it off! GO BILLS.

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by buffalobacker on Dec 12, 2010 4:07 PM EST reply actions  

Good things!

We threw to our tight ends a little.
Fred is a STUD.
Fitz didn’t throw a pick.

Perfect day.

"Adversity is an opportunity for heroism." Marv Levy.

by SERGEANT MAJOR THOR on Dec 12, 2010 4:10 PM EST reply actions  

Turnovers were the story here

The Browns fumbled what……5 times….even though they recovered some of them, it still hurts. Delhomme threw in a pick for good measure.

Fitz didn’t throw a pick.

Huge for the Bills. How close did Fitz come to a 6 pick with that ball to Stupar?

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beat you with experience.

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by Joe P. on Dec 12, 2010 4:47 PM EST up reply actions  

that was so close

but it was a good play from both Stupar and Fitz

"The Buffalo Bills have just exploded all over the Cincinnati Bangles"
-Steve Tasker-

by billsoferie on Dec 12, 2010 5:04 PM EST up reply actions  

Good catch by Stupar....Fitz should have put that one on the outside shoulder

If not for the slippery conditions, i think that would have been a pick six

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beat you with experience.

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by Joe P. on Dec 12, 2010 5:08 PM EST up reply actions  

If not for slippery conditions, that would probably have been a better throw, too.

by stetzwebs on Dec 12, 2010 5:54 PM EST up reply actions  

Really???? I didn't see Fitz slip or lose footing....ball seemed to come out of his hand OK

What makes you say that?

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beat you with experience.

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by Joe P. on Dec 12, 2010 6:03 PM EST up reply actions  

Not sure, I didn’t see the game. I just think that it’s easier to throw the ball when the weather isn’t that slippery. I would imagine his overall play would have been better, if only a little, if the conditions were nicer.

by stetzwebs on Dec 12, 2010 6:05 PM EST up reply actions  

go to BB.com and you can watch it over and over again :-)

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by Joe P. on Dec 12, 2010 6:16 PM EST up reply actions  

And what makes you think it would have been a pick 6? The defender never slipped.

by DJ O on Dec 12, 2010 10:27 PM EST up reply actions  

I would have to go back and look again, but

after the defender makes his break on the ball, he seemed to have a small slip on his 2nd or 3rd step…not much…but enough that he could get the INT.

Do not argue with an idiot. He will drag you down to his level and
beat you with experience.

If the ship has turned a corner it’s probably still uncomfortably close to the iceberg. - Ron From NM

by Joe P. on Dec 12, 2010 10:34 PM EST up reply actions  

His Lose

Blame it on the rain:)

That's A Spicey Meatball! GO BILLS

by buffalobacker on Dec 13, 2010 1:19 AM EST up reply actions  

Really?

Slippery for them,but not Fitz? You mentioned slippery conditions, are they different for each team? Don’t understand your arguement.

That's A Spicey Meatball! GO BILLS

by buffalobacker on Dec 13, 2010 1:18 AM EST up reply actions  

Look...not trying to make this a big deal out of this

but if you don’t think that a slippery surface affects players who are trying to accelerate/change directions quickly more than a QB stepping into a throw….well, lets just agree to disagree.

Do not argue with an idiot. He will drag you down to his level and
beat you with experience.

If the ship has turned a corner it’s probably still uncomfortably close to the iceberg. - Ron From NM

by Joe P. on Dec 13, 2010 3:47 PM EST up reply actions  

And wet balls aren't known for being heavier and tougher to sling...

You are right that the conditions prob affected the DB.

Backer is prob right that the conditions affected Fitz.

The play is what the play is.

by lonestar_ak on Dec 13, 2010 4:01 PM EST up reply actions  

I agree that a wet ball is tougher to throw....especially without losing velocity, but nobody mentioned that

I was referring the slippery footing and that Fitz needed to place the ball more to the outside shoulder of the WR.

Do not argue with an idiot. He will drag you down to his level and
beat you with experience.

If the ship has turned a corner it’s probably still uncomfortably close to the iceberg. - Ron From NM

by Joe P. on Dec 13, 2010 4:27 PM EST up reply actions  

lol

All good Joe, not a big deal! Just bantering. Until next post, sir!

That's A Spicey Meatball! GO BILLS

by buffalobacker on Dec 13, 2010 5:01 PM EST up reply actions  

yeah we have had some bad games against them

and Evans was the only injury,

"The Buffalo Bills have just exploded all over the Cincinnati Bangles"
-Steve Tasker-

by billsoferie on Dec 12, 2010 4:13 PM EST up reply actions  

Was a little annoyed by the refs being whistle happy today. Could have returned that Moats sack for a TD amongst other things.

by MusicHunch on Dec 12, 2010 4:11 PM EST reply actions  

i know i shouldnt be surprised by poor quarterback play anymore, but Delhomme today was more dreadful to watch than any bills qb over the past 3 years.

by jugurtha656 on Dec 12, 2010 4:12 PM EST reply actions  

I’d say Edwards this season was worse. Delhomme is just well past his prime, Edwards was playing like a scared schoolgirl.

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by BillsNYC on Dec 12, 2010 4:28 PM EST up reply actions  

There problem

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by buffalobacker on Dec 13, 2010 1:19 AM EST up reply actions  

Writing this part

Bills Defense Shine In Victory

of the headline must have felt sorta weird.

Be miserable or motivate yourself. What's to be done it's always YOUR choice.
Hutch-Tech Class of '76 Buffalo born & bred. Bills fan since 1968.

by MtJulietTNBillsFan on Dec 12, 2010 4:13 PM EST reply actions  

After that opening series, they really stepped it up.

by blknites on Dec 12, 2010 4:14 PM EST up reply actions  

Packers lost

so that helps us out vs Lions in draft pecking order.

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by MtJulietTNBillsFan on Dec 12, 2010 4:15 PM EST reply actions  

Why Mangini didn't RUN

the ball more at the end is beyond me, they could have drove down the field, used up the clock, and won that game.

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by BillsNYC on Dec 12, 2010 4:29 PM EST reply actions  

They couldn’t hold on to the ball.

by blknites on Dec 12, 2010 4:31 PM EST up reply actions  

Bright spot: Moats

Given Buffalo’s lousy LB situation, I think Moats has a real chance to go into 2011 as a starter. He’s been Buffalo’s best rookie from the draft class of 2010. That’s not saying much (the class has been as underwhelming as even the biggest pessimist could have imagined), but I think he has a future in this league. I hope he continues to improve with playing time.

"There's only one C.J. Spiller." -Buddy Nix

by Port Royal on Dec 12, 2010 4:32 PM EST reply actions  

Should we start a collection to send Brian on vacation again this week?

by Pistol on Dec 12, 2010 4:34 PM EST reply actions  

Uh, CLEARLY, it was my RETURN that got them the win.

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by Brian Galliford on Dec 12, 2010 4:39 PM EST up reply actions  

I’ll buy that. Whatever works.
:-)

"Adversity is an opportunity for heroism." Marv Levy.

by SERGEANT MAJOR THOR on Dec 12, 2010 4:41 PM EST up reply actions  

Well, that’s certainly a cheaper option.

by Pistol on Dec 12, 2010 4:45 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

Haha

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by NorCal BillsFan on Dec 12, 2010 4:50 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

Exactly!

No vacations, GO BILLS

That's A Spicey Meatball! GO BILLS

by buffalobacker on Dec 13, 2010 1:21 AM EST up reply actions  

Nice to us win a game that we were supposed to win.

Never confuse movement with action.
~Ernest Hemingway

by NolaBillsFan on Dec 12, 2010 5:45 PM EST reply actions  

I don’t think the Bills were favored in this one, though.

by stetzwebs on Dec 12, 2010 5:55 PM EST up reply actions  

Bills were favored by 1

by LetsGoBflo on Dec 12, 2010 6:03 PM EST up reply actions  

not on espn

"The Buffalo Bills have just exploded all over the Cincinnati Bangles"
-Steve Tasker-

by billsoferie on Dec 12, 2010 6:20 PM EST up reply actions  

Wow

Thats alot!

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by buffalobacker on Dec 13, 2010 1:21 AM EST up reply actions  

Fun game to watch

D played well, nice to see a run heavy offense.

It looked DAMN cold in Buffalo.

"It’s like I’ve always said, don’t tell me about the labor pains, just show me the baby."
- Buddy Nix

by dnvrBillsfan on Dec 12, 2010 5:46 PM EST reply actions  

McKelvin

Really happy to see him come back after his Vikings debacle. Right before his big pick he had a big hit to knock the ball lose from the receiver. Cleveland’s receivers are nothing special but you didn’t hear his name a lot meaning he played well. Don’t know if he was the one who got beat on the long pass to Massaquoi, can anyone help me there?

by dwwhite190 on Dec 12, 2010 5:50 PM EST reply actions  

It was Byrd...

on Massaquoi’s long catch… But he made up for it too!!!

Went to my first "BB" meeting today... When I stood, introduced myself, and admitted I was a Billsaholic, the other members threw beer cans at me!!

by Cinga on Dec 12, 2010 6:44 PM EST up reply actions  

Sucks about Lee but we will get to see if someone on the roster can step in a fill his role. Seemed like some good runs up the middle looking forward to the Oline break down to see how much of that was Wood at center. Moats keeps making plays what more can you ask of a mid round rookie. Byrd had a sophomore slump no unexpected hopefully today was a sign that its coming to an end and he can end the season on a high note.

by Robot Nixon on Dec 12, 2010 6:05 PM EST reply actions  

Also our secondary

The d-backs laid some wood in the cold today, Byrd’s hit on Hillis was the play of the game because it set the tone. Freddy shined in the bad weather, quality win! glad to say it

by badnewsBills on Dec 12, 2010 6:25 PM EST reply actions  

Am I the only one that realizes that by winning this meaningless game we’ve all but lost any shot at landing Andrew luck. We won the battle today but were losing the war

We have to have Luck this offseason, figuratively and literally. "With the 1st overall pick pick of the 2011 NFL draft the buffalo bills select Andrew Luck quarterback out of stanford" The first words out of goodalls mouth at the 11 draft. youtube "andrew luck tackle" the kid can teach our linebackers how to hit as a second job

by J. Mackin on Dec 12, 2010 6:30 PM EST via mobile reply actions  

Let me be the first to assure you that no, you are not, in fact, the “only one”. That’s hardly ever the case.

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by Brian Galliford on Dec 12, 2010 6:35 PM EST up reply actions  

It's still hard to believe...

that some would prefer we lose out…

Went to my first "BB" meeting today... When I stood, introduced myself, and admitted I was a Billsaholic, the other members threw beer cans at me!!

by Cinga on Dec 12, 2010 6:47 PM EST up reply actions  

AND HERE WE GO....

Nevr fails do it?? “A Fan” that would rather the Bills lose ….

#VintageFitzpatrick

by brebre421 on Dec 12, 2010 7:06 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

I despise these “a fan” comments. Any Bills fan that wants better draft position has good intentions, even if you disagree with them. Seriously – I cannot stand divisiveness in a fan base. And divisiveness does not equal disagreement, folks.

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by Brian Galliford on Dec 12, 2010 7:24 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

Freud described this phenomenon as “:projection” and the many self-loathing Bills fans who take out their frustration on their fellow team supporters rather than this pathetic team are simply avoiding the unenviable chore of evaluating the disgraceful front office, coaches, and players employed by the Bills. Personally, I’m glad they won, but I won’t critique how any other Bills fans deal with this putrid franchise.

"There's only one C.J. Spiller." -Buddy Nix

by Port Royal on Dec 12, 2010 7:41 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

It’s good intentions, I’ll give them that, but it still makes me and several other people sick to their stomach to see people rooting for the team to lose.

Then again, I’m fully of the opinion that a) Ryan Fitzpatrick is unjustly looked down upon on this page and has been for the past year, b) that there’s absolutely nothing stopping Andrew Luck from becoming the next Ryan Leaf, and finally c) that the team needs to learn to win as is more than it needs to be stomped into submission so that it can get a guy that will not answer the most significant troubles of this team. (Unless Luck plays a mean 3-4 outside linebacker, the answer is no.)

Many people disagree with this opinion. They think that Andrew Luck will be the Messiah, the Chosen One, the Neo, or even, dear God, the Jim Kelly that we so desperately ‘need’. Well, they’re entitled to their opinions. But when they’re annoyed at the team they root for winning a game, it leaves a sour taste in my mouth, Brian, and I hope you understand that.

(I’m personally rooting for Andrew Luck to not declare, personally, so we can start coming to some kind of agreement that beating the Browns is not the death knell for our franchise, but it’s out of my control, obviously.)

by Orlando John on Dec 12, 2010 9:38 PM EST up reply actions   3 recs

completely agree,

It’s much more important for this team to learn how to win and shed its losing culture than to intentionally lose games to try to draft a guy who is just as likely to be the next Ryan Leaf as he is the next Peyton Manning; and furthermore, may not even declair for the draft this year at all.

I understand if people dissagree with my logic and respect their right to do so, but when the Bills actually play well and beat our Lake Erie neighbors (giving us something to cheer about for once), why get all Debbie Downer and whine about it just to rain on everyone’s parade? It makes no sense to me.

"It’s like I’ve always said, don’t tell me about the labor pains, just show me the baby. That’s what we’ve got to do. We’ve got to show you the baby, and the baby is winning." - Buddy Nix

by Schwing9 on Dec 13, 2010 12:39 PM EST up reply actions  

True

But to be willing to purposely support a team that loses to “win” better picks is a team I want no part of! Whys that despicable? From jump I"ve been of the ilk you play to win, not purposely fold to gain draft advantage. Can’t and won’t support that attitude in my life. I’ve got pride. Nothing divisive about that to me. To wish for losses is for losers, not my Bills.

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by buffalobacker on Dec 13, 2010 1:29 AM EST up reply actions   1 recs

REC'D

for both Orlando and bb, well said gentlemen.

May God have mercy upon the opponents of the Buffalo Bills because WE WILL NOT!!!

by TexasBillsFanatic on Dec 13, 2010 4:35 AM EST up reply actions  

Just don’t question someone’s fanhood. You can disagree with the notion all you want, but don’t question their fanhood.

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by Brian Galliford on Dec 13, 2010 6:17 AM EST up reply actions  

Any one else watching the Phish at Jets???

Both teams actually playing like crap and looking very beatable…

Went to my first "BB" meeting today... When I stood, introduced myself, and admitted I was a Billsaholic, the other members threw beer cans at me!!

by Cinga on Dec 12, 2010 6:48 PM EST reply actions  

Agreed

Be miserable or motivate yourself. What's to be done it's always YOUR choice.
Hutch-Tech Class of '76 Buffalo born & bred. Bills fan since 1968.

by MtJulietTNBillsFan on Dec 12, 2010 7:04 PM EST up reply actions  

What's with Sparano's shades at night in a rain storm ?

Sanchez is loosing confidence fast.

It was Cookie's turn to lead the "easiest exercise" during the Monday practice after a game-- he said-- "we're going to do deep breathing--everybody inhale--dehale "---As told by Jack Kemp at my high school sports banquet circa 1966.

by radan on Dec 12, 2010 7:06 PM EST up reply actions  

Sanchez is loosing confidence fast.

Nah… just like the rest of the Jets, he’s realizing all the garbage Ryan has been spouting is just that…. Crap… His last 2 games in particular makes him look like the guy that Buff picked off 6 times last year. But the rest of the team looks just as bad…
And Henne might be playing even worse… 5 of 18 for 55 yds… Sanchez 17-44, 216…

Went to my first "BB" meeting today... When I stood, introduced myself, and admitted I was a Billsaholic, the other members threw beer cans at me!!

by Cinga on Dec 12, 2010 7:20 PM EST up reply actions  

Sanchez still a fair weather QB?

I dont’ want to fall into the USC stereotype, but seems to me he continues to struggle in poor conditions. Did have that good playoff game last year in cincy though.

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by Job 7:6 on Dec 12, 2010 8:13 PM EST up reply actions  

i would take Fitz

over both of them

"The Buffalo Bills have just exploded all over the Cincinnati Bangles"
-Steve Tasker-

by billsoferie on Dec 12, 2010 8:39 PM EST up reply actions  

Too much shine on the other sideline

Or at least that’s what Rex and the Jets would lead you to believe

~K
"As the governor of Louisiana once said, the only way Chris Kelsay can lose his job is if he got caught in bed with a dead girl or a live boy."

by Kurupt on Dec 12, 2010 11:18 PM EST up reply actions  

He had eye surgery years ago and his eyes are very senstive to light.

There was a bit on it a few weeks ago. Some kind of industrial accident when he was younger.

by lonestar_ak on Dec 13, 2010 3:52 PM EST up reply actions  

Yep.....Homes had a TD drop as bad as Scubba Steve's in the Pitt game

and Cotchery just dropped what would have been a huge gain if not a TD.

Do not argue with an idiot. He will drag you down to his level and
beat you with experience.

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by Joe P. on Dec 12, 2010 7:20 PM EST up reply actions  

Why do you keep saying Scubba?

~K
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by Kurupt on Dec 12, 2010 11:19 PM EST up reply actions  

Its a combo of Scuba and Jabba (I'm guessing anyway) maybe because Steve likes to laugh like Jabba?

Or maybe its a mixture of Scuba and Bubba, but either way, it baffles me as well.

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by WABillsfan on Dec 13, 2010 2:37 AM EST up reply actions  

Well, people seemed to like the Stevie Styles persona, so I added the extra "b"

in the hopes it might appeal to those people.

http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Scubba+

I really hate Stevie…..might as well call him Stewie

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ErPsx8zdnX4&feature=related

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by Joe P. on Dec 13, 2010 4:54 PM EST up reply actions  

So you think he's sexy?

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by Kurupt on Dec 14, 2010 1:09 AM EST up reply actions  

I'd rather have Fitz

Did anyone else watching the Jets lose to Miami have the same feeling I did — that I would much rather have Fitz as our QB at this point than either Sanchez or Henne? Fitz may toss some wild throws (but then again both Sanchez and Henne do that as well), but at least he looks as if he belongs out there. The two younger QB’s in the AFC East both looked lost today.

Stevie Johnson can also take some comfort from the Santonio Holmes easy TD drop — it happens to the best of them.

by Macktruck on Dec 12, 2010 8:40 PM EST up reply actions  

Agreed on both counts.

I seem to be one of the only guys with a #14 pic, so it’s not much of a surprise coming from me, but whenever I can see Ryan playing, he looks like he knows what he’s doing. He also seems to usually know what he can and cannot do with the ball, especially when he has time to think.

Hmm…. I keep saying he’s our new Flutie, but that may not be the point. I’m starting to think he may well be our Hostetler. (A guy that isn’t fancy, isn’t impressive, just wins.)

by Orlando John on Dec 12, 2010 9:52 PM EST up reply actions  

Just wins?

LOL……..

um…….his record as a starting QB says something other than

“Just wins”

The score dictated they pass

by norcaliangelsfan on Dec 12, 2010 9:59 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

Oh, yeah...

Well, I seem to have missed a key few words, ‘when it counts’, at the end.

Then again, that biggest win of his career really did kinda overshadow most of his losses in my eyes.

Or it’s a subliminal fear that after a landmark season Ryan will fizzle out like nothing ever seen before? :-/

by Orlando John on Dec 12, 2010 10:02 PM EST up reply actions  

I think you're looking at it too hard..........

Fitz is hardly the main problem with the team………..but he’s hardly the answer either.

He’s playing as well as can be expected………but he’s not good enough alone to get the team over the hill they’ve been climbing for over a decade.

The score dictated they pass

by norcaliangelsfan on Dec 12, 2010 10:16 PM EST up reply actions  

Well yeah...

Not good enough alone. I do think that with enough upgrades all around he can brute-force-competence this team into playing in January. And if Mark Sanchez can come close to bringing last years’ Jets into the bowl, I don’t see why Ryan can’t do it, either. Especially if he plays to his strengths.

Not going to go so far as to say we should definitely plan on it, but I do think he gets the benefit of the doubt and the starting job is his to lose, even if Luck is that good. AND we get him.

by Orlando John on Dec 13, 2010 2:56 AM EST up reply actions  

agree

Fitz has lost maybe one game for us. The pats game

Our O-line when healthy is becoming very good, the Dline is ok we add a CB, some LB’s and a impact TE and we have a good looking team.

"The Buffalo Bills have just exploded all over the Cincinnati Bangles"
-Steve Tasker-

by billsoferie on Dec 12, 2010 9:59 PM EST up reply actions  

You can't say Fitz or any one player lost a game

Especially him and that NE game. The D gave up 38 points. That’s not Fitz’s doing….

~K
"As the governor of Louisiana once said, the only way Chris Kelsay can lose his job is if he got caught in bed with a dead girl or a live boy."

by Kurupt on Dec 12, 2010 11:22 PM EST up reply actions  

My favorite play of the day

was stopping the Browns on 3rd & goal on the first drive. They were tearing up the D running the ball seemingly with ease. But the D shut them down there, Cleveland settled for the FG.

Building off that stop the D held them to a single FG the rest of the game.

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by MtJulietTNBillsFan on Dec 12, 2010 7:12 PM EST reply actions  

Loved that stop...

and your probably right about it being a turning point of sorts, but my fav had to be Jarius coming alive with that stick on Hillis as he tried to hurl him.. Rest of the game, Byrd was back to last year form… Maybe better since he played the run well after that….

Went to my first "BB" meeting today... When I stood, introduced myself, and admitted I was a Billsaholic, the other members threw beer cans at me!!

by Cinga on Dec 12, 2010 7:24 PM EST up reply actions  

Remainder of the Schedule

I’ll bet a lot of money that the Bills give the Patriots a better game than the Steelers, Jets, or Bears did. I’ll also bet that we play the Jets much tighter than we did early in the season.

There’s a lot to be optimistic about at the end of this season and going into next season. There’s a long way to go but we’re on the right track.

by Luther6 on Dec 12, 2010 8:06 PM EST reply actions  

I'm willing to bet that the Pats wont care too much about the Bills game............

just like they didnt really care all the much the first time the two teams played.

The Pats are rolling over everyone……..

The score dictated they pass

by norcaliangelsfan on Dec 12, 2010 8:12 PM EST up reply actions  

Pats look invincible right now.

Pats, Saints, Falcons putting some distance between themselves and the rest of the field imo.

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by Job 7:6 on Dec 12, 2010 8:15 PM EST up reply actions  

Well the Bills couldn't play much worse than they did against the Jets

And it’s hard to be any worse than the Jets and Bears the past two weeks…..

~K
"As the governor of Louisiana once said, the only way Chris Kelsay can lose his job is if he got caught in bed with a dead girl or a live boy."

by Kurupt on Dec 12, 2010 11:24 PM EST up reply actions  

Pats

There playing scary good. If we score we’ll be lucky:) No, odds are we’ll be closer, but geesh Pats are playing extreme!

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by buffalobacker on Dec 13, 2010 1:33 AM EST up reply actions  

Fred Jackson, Defense . . . and the O-line

Thought the o-line looked great today. But, I was at a bar and I’m not sure exactly what I saw.

I certainly couldn’t watch at a level of detail that allowed me to see whether Wang played much. Anyone know?

Surprised CJ only had 33 yards. Thought he looked good. Still frustrated he hasn’t had a break-out game yet, but as long as FJ is the #1 guy, a break-out game may not be possible. And FJ 100% deserves to be the guy. And I just love our late rounders — plus, it makes for a very likable team. Good win. Go Bills!

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by Job 7:6 on Dec 12, 2010 8:10 PM EST reply actions  

Chris Brown during his live chat during the game was asked if Ed Wang is going to get the chance to play RT next year, and his reply was that Wang would probably end up as a “reserve Guard.” Since we badly need help at OT I hope that’s not true, but it sounds as if Brownie has been hearing from the coaches that Wang is a bust.

by Macktruck on Dec 12, 2010 8:43 PM EST up reply actions  

A guy drafted in the 5th round as a OL who turns out to be a reserve.........

is hardly a bust…….

If you’re looking for a 10 year stud OL starter in the 5th round……..you have some issues with your team.

The score dictated they pass

by norcaliangelsfan on Dec 12, 2010 8:54 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

There was a lot of hope earlier in the season that Wang might be a real contender at OT. It’s looking like that might not happen. If so, he would be a bust in that sense (and an indication that OT is again a major priority for the offseason).

by Macktruck on Dec 12, 2010 9:15 PM EST up reply actions  

There was a lot of hope earlier in the season that Wang might be a real contender at OT.

Well, I can hope that Levi Brown wins 10 Super Bowls for the Bills, but if he doesn’t, he won’t be a bust. Fan expectations should in no way, shape or form be considered in arbitrarily labeling someone a “bust,” particularly when those expectations are ridiculous to begin with.

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by Brian Galliford on Dec 12, 2010 9:19 PM EST up reply actions  

Wang

A bust, just a sign of how bad our depth and talent is across O/L. Wang isn’t even expected to be anything but depth and were calling him a bust! Please draft some talent!

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by buffalobacker on Dec 13, 2010 1:38 AM EST up reply actions  

My only hope for Wang was that he could become a serviceable OT down the road e.g. 2-3 seasons

Expecting much from a player who was a 5th rounder and while athletic, not used to this level of competition his first season is a lot. I agree with Brian whole heartedly.

abayarde- "Sunday the Whagon BLASTER IS taking of and the GODZILLA IS IN IT . EVERY BODY AND EVERYTHING IN THE WAY will be CRUSH, VANISH , NON EXISTENCE, PULLVERISE, DESINTEGRADED, The Force is stronger than EVER . THE JEDI IS READY, TO FACE the Dark side."

by WABillsfan on Dec 13, 2010 2:38 AM EST up reply actions  

Bust is always a strong word to use, but

I think I see where you are going. He was a left tackle in college, we drafted him as a tackle I believe and know being referred to as a back up guard going forward. Is that a bust, I don’t know, but it does stink when you buy something and end up having to use it for something other than what you bought it for. Let’s give the bust to the front office, hell they can’t get them all right.

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by VanScottM on Dec 12, 2010 10:52 PM EST up reply actions  

By bust, I'm guessing he means disappointment...

I’m sure the Bills FO had hopes that Wang could be a quality reserve at OT and potentially push for a starting job. They may already see he’s not good enough for that. Hence, some disappointment in him….

But yeah, a 5th rounder can really never be a bust…..

~K
"As the governor of Louisiana once said, the only way Chris Kelsay can lose his job is if he got caught in bed with a dead girl or a live boy."

by Kurupt on Dec 12, 2010 11:27 PM EST up reply actions  

Ok, I’ll go with that description. He may be turning into a major disappointment both in terms of what the team expected and also what fans were hoping for, although we of course have to wait and see what happens to him next year. I was struck, though, that Chris Brown was so negative.

by Macktruck on Dec 13, 2010 12:52 AM EST up reply actions  

unless

they get cut before the first game of their rc season – happens a bit – fortunately not to us lately.

3 AM Monday morning games all 2010 - that's just dandy !

by Will G on Dec 13, 2010 3:19 AM EST up reply actions  

Fred is playing too well to give C.J more touches

and C.J needs reps tp break one, It will come.

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by billsoferie on Dec 12, 2010 10:01 PM EST up reply actions  

So we win the week I can't watch thanks

Too the blackout and a family function. Hmm, maybe I should have a family thing every week. We would go 16-0 if I did that….

abayarde- "Sunday the Whagon BLASTER IS taking of and the GODZILLA IS IN IT . EVERY BODY AND EVERYTHING IN THE WAY will be CRUSH, VANISH , NON EXISTENCE, PULLVERISE, DESINTEGRADED, The Force is stronger than EVER . THE JEDI IS READY, TO FACE the Dark side."

by WABillsfan on Dec 12, 2010 9:35 PM EST via mobile reply actions  

Haha. I couldn’t watch last week and they got blown out. How about if I just tell you what happens during the games? Would that work out?

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by WhyBillsWhy on Dec 13, 2010 9:07 AM EST up reply actions  

Yahoo! I’m officially on the hunt for a new sig.

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by thefourwinds on Dec 12, 2010 9:37 PM EST reply actions  

lol

Cool, change it to winning a SB and we can hope you gotta change it soon!

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by buffalobacker on Dec 13, 2010 1:40 AM EST up reply actions  

1) Defensively, the Bills held an opponent without a touchdown since Week 5 of 2009, when – you guessed it – the Browns beat the Bills, 6-3.

Think you’re missing a word there…

2) It is 14 consecutive games with a TD, not 13.

by trademark on Dec 12, 2010 9:55 PM EST reply actions  

Gotta love the young talent on this team

cant wait to see what Gailey and Nix do this offseason

"The Buffalo Bills have just exploded all over the Cincinnati Bangles"
-Steve Tasker-

by billsoferie on Dec 12, 2010 10:03 PM EST reply actions  

The offseason is the best time to root for the Bills.........

there’s a lot less disappointment then.

The score dictated they pass

by norcaliangelsfan on Dec 12, 2010 10:15 PM EST up reply actions  

Haha. Are you sure about that?

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by WhyBillsWhy on Dec 13, 2010 9:08 AM EST up reply actions  

Yep

Future is bright!

That's A Spicey Meatball! GO BILLS

by buffalobacker on Dec 13, 2010 1:41 AM EST up reply actions  

It would be awesome.

If they put together a full house package with McIntyre and Kyle Williams as FBs and a RB.

Kylesaurus Rex Williams Pro Bowl 2010

by The Buffalo Kid on Dec 13, 2010 12:00 AM EST up reply actions  

Da Fridge!

That's A Spicey Meatball! GO BILLS

by buffalobacker on Dec 13, 2010 1:41 AM EST up reply actions  

I'm suddenly remembering

In Madden 08, Kyle Williams had something like three TDs for me as a tight end in the Miami goal line package. Awesome.

by Orlando John on Dec 13, 2010 1:18 PM EST up reply actions  

I like the fact that on that play, Byrd basically uses his helmet to make sure Hillis won't have kids

abayarde- "Sunday the Whagon BLASTER IS taking of and the GODZILLA IS IN IT . EVERY BODY AND EVERYTHING IN THE WAY will be CRUSH, VANISH , NON EXISTENCE, PULLVERISE, DESINTEGRADED, The Force is stronger than EVER . THE JEDI IS READY, TO FACE the Dark side."

by WABillsfan on Dec 13, 2010 2:41 AM EST up reply actions  

Best way to force a fumble?

by Baron Hashimoto on Dec 13, 2010 3:31 AM EST up reply actions  

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