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Bills vs. Vikings: Three Good and Three Bad

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The Bad

Ball Security. We've reached "Red Level" on the Homeland Security Alert chart. Ryan Fitzpatrick's two fumbles and his interception are better charged to the offensive line. The non-quarterback fumbling has to stop, though. Leodis McKelvin's kick return fumble changed the tide of the game. Up until that fumble, Buffalo was standing toe-to-toe with a Brett Favre-less Vikings team and trading punches evenly. If there was a turning point, McKelvin's fumble was it. Corey McIntyre's fumble cost Buffalo their best chance of getting back into a blow-out game.  Many Buffalo players should be carrying footballs all week.

Listless First Half Play. All cardiac kids fail, and this was Buffalo's week. While I applaud Buffalo's first half calmness and look of resiliency, their attitude bordered on careless. The team looked as if they expected to play poor in the first half, and come back in the second. It almost seemed like Buffalo didn't care that they got shelled in the first half. While it's nice to know that you can come back, the point is missed. Comebacks are generated by initial bad play. Good teams start and finish well routinely and only comeback when required. 

Star-divide

Leodis McKelvin.  I am OK with his pass coverage. Every cornerback gets beat. He competed on the fade to Sidney Rice, and played the ball well. I chalk that up to Rice's amazing play as opposed to McKelvin getting beat. McKelvin's interference penalty on the next drive was a technique issue, and can be fixed. That said, please stop putting McKelvin back to return kicks. I understand that given a small crease he will score. He gets to top speed almost instantly, and cannot be caught from behind. McKelvin's kick return confidence is shot, and he's making more mistakes than his ability warrants.  He's muffed three kicks in two weeks.  It's time to put CJ Spiller back there.

The Good

Drayton Florence.  Earlier this season I thought Florence was on the "not on the team next year" list. He played awful against the Jets, in particular. He's now turning into Buffalo's top corner, and a good one at that. Florence is one of those guys who is always around the ball. This increases his chances of making plays and he has, scoring twice in three weeks. Back on the roster in 2011.

Arthur Moats.  Pittsburgh has a knack for finding small college defensive ends outside the first round and turning them into good outside linebackers. James Harrison, Greg Lloyd, Jason Gildon and Joey Porter come to mind. Buffalo may be onto that with Arthur Moats. Officially, Moats was credited with two tackles and a quarterback hit. He played better than that, though, flying around the field and giving Bryant McKinnie all he could handle. Oh, and he knocked Brett Favre out of the game. If there's an upside to Aaron Maybin playing poorly, it's that Moats is seeing the field.

Brian Moorman.  As always, Moorman is awesome. Playing indoors must be a good break for him, and he put the "hang" in hangtime. Coverage units had a shot at stopping returners on every punt. Buffalo could have won the field position battle pretty easily if they had won anything else.

Outlook

The Minnesota game was a good wake-up for players, coaches, and fans alike. I personally learned that Buffalo is not as far down the road to being good as I thought, though I'm not going overboard with this loss. Buffalo's linebacking talent needs help or the rapid development of youngsters. Buffalo's offensive line is still not that great.  Demetrius Bell got taken to the rodeo a few times by Jared Allen. The team is not deep enough yet to sustain the injuries that happen each year. Ryan Fitzpatrick is still likely not the franchise signal caller the team needs. Aaron Rodgers faces that Minnesota pass rush twice a year with a comparable offensive line, and wins games. The team advances through baby steps, and this is just a baby step back.

Up Next: December 12 rematch of the "touchdown-less" bowl with Cleveland.

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I applaud you for finding 3 good, I know it’s hard in some games even though listing Moorman was gasping for air. Thank you for your post every week

"That's not how I do it. But, hey, everyone is different , that's why Baskin-Robbins got 31flavors" - Chan Gailey

by Buffalo Stro on Dec 6, 2010 1:06 PM EST reply actions  

I was going to list Whitner hitting hard

That was also grasping, though.

Starting the official Buffalo "Draft Owen Marecic in 2011" campaign.

I had a dream the night after the first round. Buffalo traded for Tim Tebow. If Josh McDaniels gets fired for continued losing and cheating, it could happen.

by Der Jaeger on Dec 6, 2010 1:19 PM EST up reply actions  

I want McKelvin back there on KO and PR...

But there is no way we can continue to have him back there. Hes a very good return man.. but the fumbles are killing him. Hes too much of a liability. Which is a shame… also gotta start turning the corner, as a corner. Hes in his 3rd year… these mistakes have to stop.

And Bell came back down to earth in a Wile E. Coyote type way.

Lets Go Buff a lo!!!

by bflo on Dec 6, 2010 1:33 PM EST reply actions  

This could also be titled.......

One step forward………..Two steps back.

The score dictated they pass

by norcaliangelsfan on Dec 6, 2010 1:54 PM EST reply actions  

One step sideways. Like when your employer tells you a lateral move is the only way you’ll advance in the company. Not the best thing.

In the year two thousaaaaaaand.
In the year two thousAAAAAAND!

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by TheAfghanTwilight on Dec 6, 2010 5:50 PM EST up reply actions  

one more good

Buffalo’s offensive line is still not that great.

That’s about as good an understatement as you’ll find anywhere!

And:

The Minnesota game was a good wake-up for players, coaches, and fans alike

A close second. All the euphoria over 2 wins against the 30th and 31st worst ranked teams was not realistic. We are slightly better than Cinci, Detroit, and Carolina. Emphasis on slightly.

What we call our despair is often only the painful eagerness of unfed hope.

by fansince60 on Dec 6, 2010 1:58 PM EST reply actions  

Emphasis on slighlty.....

Just to make sure we give proper credit…… They are then to be considered Slightly Worse than KC, Pitt, Bal, Chi and NE then, correct?

If we are criticizing fairly….

by MikeEverett08 on Dec 6, 2010 2:20 PM EST up reply actions  

KC and CHI maybe….but much worse than Pitt, Balt, and NE. Their personnel man for man is considerably more talented than the Bills especially at QB.

What we call our despair is often only the painful eagerness of unfed hope.

by fansince60 on Dec 6, 2010 2:47 PM EST up reply actions  

Not one for excuses but......

This team needs to start by not having so many injuries. We never will know what we have unless there is some sort of consistant team on the field. Once again not an excuse as it is just simply becoming a normal thing for the Bills. QB is a glaring issue but Fitzy is smart enough to groom the next QB. Issues of depth and difference makers need to be addressed…..

by MikeEverett08 on Dec 6, 2010 2:53 PM EST up reply actions  

Big Question

What does OBD do to limit injuries that they’re not already doing? Injuries are part of game and I’m sure all teams exercise due dilligence trying to limit injuries. Our only recourse is to ensure we have good depth at key positions i.e. O/L. Nix has been very active in pursuit of depth but best laid plans…

Help Wanted, Wayward O/L. Apply At OBD. EOE Great Benefits. IR In A Matter Of Weeks. Any Position.

by buffalobacker on Dec 6, 2010 4:11 PM EST up reply actions  

Big Question

What does OBD do to limit injuries that they’re not already doing? Injuries are part of game and I’m sure all teams exercise due dilligence trying to limit injuries. Our only recourse is to ensure we have good depth at key positions i.e. O/L. Nix has been very active in pursuit of depth but best laid plans…

Help Wanted, Wayward O/L. Apply At OBD. EOE Great Benefits. IR In A Matter Of Weeks. Any Position.

by buffalobacker on Dec 6, 2010 4:11 PM EST up reply actions  

oops

Help Wanted, Wayward O/L. Apply At OBD. EOE Great Benefits. IR In A Matter Of Weeks. Any Position.

by buffalobacker on Dec 6, 2010 4:11 PM EST up reply actions  

The team looked as if they expected to play poor in the first half, and come back in the second.

Maybe they think they’re Oregon.

by oompaloompa on Dec 6, 2010 2:04 PM EST reply actions  

It’s easy to get really down on the team after a blowout this bad. As Dennis Green has said “they are what we thought were.” We are a 2-10 team that tries hard, for the most part but lacks the talent to compete with the good teams. Let’s finish the year out with lowered expectations and see what Nix and company can do in the off season.

by WestCoastBills on Dec 6, 2010 2:26 PM EST reply actions   1 recs

Demetrius Bell got taken to the rodeo a few times by Jared Allen.

Hey, every rodeo needs a clown. Sorry, I couldn’t resist.
To be fair, I didn’t see Bell’s play. But based on other comments I saw, it sounds like it was pretty bad. Allen is as good as they get when he’s on. So far this year he hasn’t been on, it’s too bad he picked this week to come out.

by billskk69 on Dec 6, 2010 2:30 PM EST reply actions  

Contrary to Public Opinion

Bell has been below-average all year, I am not sure why some analysts are giving him rave reviews (see Brian’s link from a few days ago).

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"Talk's cheap. We all know that. It's like I've always said: 'Don't tell me about the labor pains, just show me the baby.' " ~ Buddy Nix

by Jason from OH-IO on Dec 6, 2010 2:46 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

agreed

Bell is solid back-up at best.

Help Wanted, Wayward O/L. Apply At OBD. EOE Great Benefits. IR In A Matter Of Weeks. Any Position.

by buffalobacker on Dec 6, 2010 4:12 PM EST up reply actions  

Moorman has been awesome?

I’m of the opinion he’s been very pedestrian this year. Maybe he has enough long punts to keep his average up, but he has certainly lost touch on the “coffin corner.”

by perkispower on Dec 6, 2010 3:01 PM EST reply actions  

Agreed

Moorman’s slipped the past two years. For every good punt he has, he seems to shank one. Its happened much more often, though he’s still quite good.

~K
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by Kurupt on Dec 6, 2010 4:11 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

im going to go with the

running back workhorse theory on this one. We rode Moorman too hard, we’ve decimated him by asking him to carry us with a preposterous amount of punts over the years, like Dave Wannestd did to Ricky Williams hahaha

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by poz on Dec 6, 2010 4:41 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

Aaron Rodgers faces that Minnesota pass rush twice a year with a comparable offensive line

To be fair to our o-line, and this is coming from a guy who like Jason thinks Bell is well below average, we did not come out with a comparable line to the Packers. We had no Wood, no Hangman, no Urbik. Our interior was in shambles and our exterior is always in shambles. The combination must have been a lot of fun for the Vikes.

Ive noticed a deafening silence on one bad so far the last two days and its understandable because hes been so outstanding but if we are going to analyze this game it is worth mentioning that Kyle Williams looked like the Kyle Williams from 2 years ago.

The league should reward us with a compensatory 1st round pick for ending the Farve misery story. - wab2

by poz on Dec 6, 2010 3:05 PM EST reply actions  

Chan Gailey effect?

This is in no way knocking Gailey, because I really do like the guy and the direction he is taking the team. He has a knack for doing more with less, and a way of disguising the weakness of certain areas. In a way, he is using smoke & mirrors to make this team look better than what it is (at times), much like he did in KC a few years back. Perhaps he has been using schemes with interior help for Bell to make him look better than he really is. The problem with that is, once other lineman start dropping like flies, the smoke disipates, and the mirrors shatter. This is purele speculation, of course, but that is what I think is happening. Like I said, I like Gailey. But I’d much prefer 5 guys up front that could truly go out there and hold their own, maybe even dominate, and the depth also for when guys do get hurt.

by billskk69 on Dec 6, 2010 3:14 PM EST up reply actions  

its an intriguing theory

The losses on the d-line couldn’t have helped either. I also think losing Roscoe has diminished what Gailey has been able to do with our passing attack. We were much more potent with him.

I like your theory.

The league should reward us with a compensatory 1st round pick for ending the Farve misery story. - wab2

by poz on Dec 6, 2010 3:44 PM EST up reply actions  

I agree. Although I have to say that David Nelson has been a pleasant surprise in Roscoe’s absence. Two totally different receivers though.
And as far as the Packers line goes, I have no idea there. I have a hard enough time following the Bills let alone all the other teams. :)

by billskk69 on Dec 6, 2010 3:57 PM EST up reply actions  

So would Locker have done better?

I absolutely agree that our o-line was in no way comparable to the Packers considering the injuries. It was in total shambles.

So how does anyone draw such a definitive conclusion on Fitz from that one game? Considering the total lack of protection, I thought he made a couple of really good throws. I’m not saying he definitely is the future, but let’s give him a break…he was hardly the weakest link.

But that raises the question of how Locker would have done under similair circumstances. The Locker fans on this board keep using the same argument that he just needs more talent around him. How would he have done in a similair situation?

I don’t mean to throw Jake Locker under the bus, but to those who want to draft him in the first…do you really think he’ll do better considering the absence of quality protection??? Personally, I much rather concentrate on building the lines before he address QB.

by TheNazarene on Dec 6, 2010 8:16 PM EST up reply actions  

Moats

I agree he showed something yesterday and on other opportunities. However, there were a couple of times where he was chasing down the play form behind and could not seem to close. Once was on one of the Tavaris Jackson’s scrambles. I know Jackson runs real well. My question is what about Moats speed? Is that supposed to be strength, weakness, average? I’m not commenting as I don;t enough about him. Just wondering if anyone knows.

by dyrwlf on Dec 6, 2010 3:29 PM EST reply actions  

I wouldn't bet on Florence being here in 2011

He’s going to be a FA, and it really would not surprise if some team went hard after him. The Bills would be wise to attempt to start negotiating with him ASAP, even if it isn’t totally serious discussion yet. If they don’t want to be stuck with terrible CB’s next year, they might want to get proactive on this one.

~K
"As the governor of Louisiana once said, the only way Chris Kelsay can lose his job is if he got caught in bed with a dead girl or a live boy."

by Kurupt on Dec 6, 2010 4:15 PM EST via mobile reply actions  

The Bills would be wise to attempt to start negotiating with him ASAP, even if it isn’t totally serious discussion yet

If you were Buddy Nix whats your max offer K?

The league should reward us with a compensatory 1st round pick for ending the Farve misery story. - wab2

by poz on Dec 6, 2010 4:39 PM EST up reply actions  

SAVE IT FOR TOMORROW! ;-)

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by MattRichWarren on Dec 6, 2010 5:00 PM EST up reply actions  

is that a quote from Ralph?? ;-)

What we call our despair is often only the painful eagerness of unfed hope.

by fansince60 on Dec 6, 2010 5:06 PM EST up reply actions  

hahahahaha nice one

The league should reward us with a compensatory 1st round pick for ending the Farve misery story. - wab2

by poz on Dec 6, 2010 5:10 PM EST up reply actions  

hahahahahahaa

you rule with more of an iron fist than Brian, Matt!

The league should reward us with a compensatory 1st round pick for ending the Farve misery story. - wab2

by poz on Dec 6, 2010 5:10 PM EST up reply actions  

I didn’t delete your comments…. thought about it.

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by MattRichWarren on Dec 6, 2010 7:30 PM EST up reply actions  

hahahah

Brian is going to have quite the surprise when he returns to find you crazed with power!

The league should reward us with a compensatory 1st round pick for ending the Farve misery story. - wab2

by poz on Dec 6, 2010 9:07 PM EST up reply actions  

10 years $200M

~K
"As the governor of Louisiana once said, the only way Chris Kelsay can lose his job is if he got caught in bed with a dead girl or a live boy."

by Kurupt on Dec 7, 2010 1:46 PM EST up reply actions  

1 more bad

With Favre going down, the media has another reason to talk about him. If it’s not the status of his injury it’s about how well Tavaris played and should Favre be benched.

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by Buffalo Stro on Dec 6, 2010 5:13 PM EST reply actions  

oops,Tarvaris

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by Buffalo Stro on Dec 6, 2010 5:17 PM EST reply actions  

It’s funny cause McKelvin isn’t even muffing his returns by dropping them straight off like Roscoe did last year, he just keeps running into his teammates and losing the ball that way.

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by UZ on Dec 7, 2010 1:42 AM EST reply actions  

He muffed one too

~K
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by Kurupt on Dec 7, 2010 1:47 PM EST up reply actions  

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