Poll: Should The Buffalo Bills Extend Drayton Florence Now?
We did this a few weeks ago with Stevie Johnson and then he went and dropped five passes the next week. Nevertheless it's time to take a look at another Buffalo Bills player who is actually playing well.
Drayton Florence was signed as veteran insurance at the cornerback position a year and a half ago. He was coming off a truly pitiful season in Jacksonville and the Bills had to replace the departed Jabari Greer. They signed Florence in March and drafted McKelvin in April hoping that one of the two would work out.
I think we know which of the two has done better.
This season Florence is leading the team with three interceptions and he's scored two defensive touchdowns. After recording his first interception and fumble recovery for a touchdown in the Week 11 against the Cincinnati Bengals.
Florence is on pace to have one of his best years in the NFL. If his averages continue he'll set or tie personal bests in interceptions and passes defended and has already set career-highs in fumble recoveries and touchdowns.
Currently Florence is in the second of a two-year, 6.6 million dollar contract. He will be a free agent at the end of the year. As a comparison contract, Terence McGee signed a five-year, $27 contract in 2009. Greer signed a four-year, $22M contract with the Saints that the Bills were reportedly unwilling to match. With McKelvin also earning an average of just under $4M a year and signed through 2013, Buffalo may be leery of committing over $4M a year to three players at the same position.
Florence had this to say yesterday on Twitter.
"Want to finish my career in Buffalo if everything works out as planned (God's plan)."
So Bills fans, should the Bills extend another cornerback?
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Florence is earning $4M this season
Why wouldn’t they be willing to do that or a little better for next season? It’s not as if the team has any other reliable CB’s where they’d be able to let him go. McKelvin is just untrustworthy and McGee can’t get or stay on the field. If the Bills don’t re-sign Florence, they are going to really be hurting heading into the offseason, meaning CB will once again have to be considered a priority…..
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by Kurupt on Dec 7, 2010 12:12 PM EST reply actions 2 recs
Agree
Look, I am not a Florence fan by any strech, but this team is devoid of talent. Florence is at least an average corner. Sure he has his flaws (penalties being one), but he is better than any of our DBs not named McGee right now, maybe McKelvin gets better in the near future.
If we can extend Kelsay, we sure as H-E double hockey sticks can extend people like Poz and Florence.
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by Jason from OH-IO on Dec 7, 2010 12:49 PM EST up reply actions
I voted duh!
McKelvin and McGee issues raised by K
Other areas should be a priority for next year, don’t need another.
The Bills shouldn’t follow the Sabres ill fated strategy of not negotiating in-season (Coaches no, but players yes, if situation dictates)
"They're Killin' Me Whitey. They're Killin' Me" -- Lou Saban
doesnt the CBA matter a lot here?
Donte Whitner – Paul Posluszny – Drayton Florence. Those are the big three defensive priorities as free agents. I would imagine a lot will depend on whether or not there is a salary cap. If there is no cap I dont see a problem in resigning all three. But what if there is?
Donte Whitner, will be 26 , coming off a 5 year 29 million contract
Paul Posluszny will be 27, coming off a 4 year, 4.5 million contract
Drayton Florence will be 30, coming off a 2 year, 6.6 million contract.
Whitner will probably be the most expensive as he will want more than his last contract. Florence will be the oldest.
So reasoning out where I stand on Florence. For my money, considering price, youth, positional value, and intangible value Poz is my first signing. 2008 Bills Defensive MVP and subsequently a team captain at a position with the least amount of talent Im putting Poz as my first signing defensively – hes having his best year as a pro. Oh, and he publicly has said he wants to be in Buffalo. He is proud of playing for these fans and this organization and wants to bring a winner. That attitude is big around these parts.
Next, I probably start negotiating with Whitner trying to get a reasonable deal. I’d have to be fair to Donte here, the guy is having his best year as a pro – like Poz. He already has more tackles than his career high and hes really becoming our heavy hitter which shouldnt be downplayed. I think Donte has become an all around top 15 strong safety in the league – easily. He is a vocal leader and a captain on the defense. He is young. We are building for the future and I want guys like he and Poz to be veteran leaders when this team is ready to compete. If he is not asking for an exorbitant price I try to accommodate him without setting too high a bar. I think he wants to be here too. I like the idea of he and Byrd teaming up for a while.
I guess then I’d get to Florence. Questions abound. Will he take a shorter term deal? Probably not if his agent thinks he can get a 6 year deal somewhere else. I want him to stay but corners tend to decline after 30. He is crucial because we lack reliability on the field outside of McGee but McGee has become an injury concern – making him unreliable too. I still believe in McKelvin to be great so the issue becomes do I trust McGee to come back and stay healthy because personally – I still prefer a healthy McGee to a healthy Florence. McGee is the most underrated defender on the field when hes out there. But I love Florence. The guy is a gamer and hes tough. If he signs a 4 year deal Im game.
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completley agree
Paz and Whit must be retaiined in order to further build next year. I wish we could swap contracts between Florence and Mcgee.Mcgee seems done and we need to look to the draft for a CB this year.
Poz and Whit are both young leaders on this team and i see tham as key players in our future. Neither is a superstar, but they are strong blocks in the puzzle and without them we are again looking to fill too many holes.
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completly disagree....
Let Poz walk ….
Resign Whit ….
Resign Flo ….
Love Poz to death but lets face it the kidd is not playmaking linebacker he is a solid LB yes will he make alot of tackles yes but he’s not a playmaker and he’s slow and he is terrible in coverage.
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we heard the same thing
about London Fletcher and it took us until Poz to replace him.
The league should reward us with a compensatory 1st round pick for ending the Farve misery story. - wab2
by poz on Dec 7, 2010 6:58 PM EST up reply actions
yea your right
I guess that because half of his seasons were one in which we still needed a middle backer – his first season was IR and this season we are 3-4 and need another – it has just felt like a void.
The league should reward us with a compensatory 1st round pick for ending the Farve misery story. - wab2
If we resign him
I dont want it to be a contract that he doesn’t deserve. I wouldnt be suprised if he’s leading the team in pass interference penaltie. The fumble return TD practically fell into his lap and the interception he got off of Favre also was a “right time right place” circumstance. I am not overly excited about his play right now.
He has been by far the best corner on the team.
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by MattRichWarren on Dec 7, 2010 2:20 PM EST up reply actions
Your profile picture is of Byrd
Talk about not being excited about someones play right now.
"It’s like I’ve always said, don’t tell me about the labor pains, just show me the baby."
- Buddy Nix
We’re talking Buddy Nix here. I’m guessing he’ll let Florence walk, then draft a CB in the first round and/or extend Reggie Corner as our CB of the future.
Don’t ever say that again.
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by SERGEANT MAJOR THOR on Dec 7, 2010 7:31 PM EST up reply actions
Drafting Amukuamara
actually seems like it would be a good idea. We need a new CB to eventually take over for McGee, and to fill the shoes that McKelvin can’t seem to do.
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by NordicBillsfan on Dec 8, 2010 1:19 PM EST up reply actions
I say yes
only because NE doesn’t have overwhelming speed, but short screen type guys who you have to match wits with. Florence’s experience back there is necessary.
I think we have no choice but to re-sign him.
We arent that deep that CB… so we need to re-sign our best corner. McGee would be, and still can be… but he doesnt stay healthy anymore.
Lets Go Buff a lo!!!
its sad
that Jauron’s one gift to us was supposed to be the secondary and here we are desperate for corners. Sigh…….
The league should reward us with a compensatory 1st round pick for ending the Farve misery story. - wab2
I think most of us thought our secondary was going to be good.
I was in that crowd. But I must give K his credit… he never bit on that. He called it all off-season.
We’re going to need defensive backs. Pretty badly.
McKelvin is shaky, gets picked on and needs to start manning up to that 1st round pick that we took him with.
McGee has got to get healthy. Im not sure why we dont just shut him down and let him rest and heal up.
Corner, Youboty… nothing really to say.
Florence has been solid. Hes not the best, but hes the best on our team. We cant afford to let him leave via FA.
Lets Go Buff a lo!!!
i still think our secondary is good
they just seem to have so many issues at corner. McKelvin makes mistakes and McGee just hasnt played. Whitner has been exceptional but for the most part, yup K was right. If McGee can stay healthy its a different ball game . We’re still stacked at safety but boy our corners are a mess
The league should reward us with a compensatory 1st round pick for ending the Farve misery story. - wab2
by poz on Dec 7, 2010 1:29 PM EST up reply actions
I Voted Yes
I actually feel like Florence has been one of our better defensive players this year… considering the fact that we need to upgrade in a lot of other areas (3 of 4 LB positions? 1 DL position at least…) on defense alone, let alone offensive upgrades, I’d like to see us reward good players within reason. Paying Florence $5m a year might get him back, I’m not sure teams around the league will be waiting for him to hit the open market…
The question I have is whether they could re-structure McGee’s deal… he’s been unhealthy a lot and while he’s still a talented CB, he’s not done much the last couple years (his best years were really 2005-2008) to earn his contract. If not, I’d rather us let him go and draft someone in round 2 or 3 that could work into the lineup behind Florence and maybe replace him or McKelvin… Corner is not the CB of the future, unless its in the slot. Youboty’s just never going to be the player he could’ve been… and Byrd needs to improve a bit, too — let’s not forget he could potentially be a slot CB too if he needs to be or gets replaced at FS.
I always thought about that as well..
Certain situations Wilson at FS, Whitner at SS with Byrd in the slot. I wouldnt mind that.
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The post asks
should we extend Florence, it did NOT ask should we re-sign him.
Should Florence be extended? I voted no. I do believe he should be re-sign in the off-season. My reasoning is that I believe the CBA, along with any changes to the previous CBA, will go into effect early next year, before the 2011 draft. Since any changes are not known until then it makes good business sense for the Bills to see what the new rules are before committing to a player they may decide they do not want.
Unions and Mgmt typically posture and both sides ask for more than they want so that they end up about where they both expected. These agreements usually are signed in the “11th hour”, which in this case is late Feb-early Mar. That time frame gives the lawyers (bottom-feeders to some) the opportunity to close loop-holes, or find & keep loop-holes. Then teams, agents and players know how to play the game. I expect teams will then sign the players they want to keep.
Also, as someone else pointed out, Florence is getting up in age, CB-wise. The FO may decide to let him go with age as a contributing factor in that decision.
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by MtJulietTNBillsFan on Dec 7, 2010 1:48 PM EST reply actions
If you wait you run the chance of him leaving. That is specifically why I worded it the way I did.
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by MattRichWarren on Dec 7, 2010 2:21 PM EST up reply actions
Lots of risks in life.
If he wants to stay and the Bills offer him a contract then he will stay. Even if he was offered an extension now he might say no. The Bills could still match or exceed any contract offer he gets if he ended up a FA. Everybody plays the game as best they can. That’s why I worded my response the way I did. It’s just my opinion. We all have them.
I just don’t see a lot of teams beating down the door to sign him.
FWIW.
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by MtJulietTNBillsFan on Dec 7, 2010 2:50 PM EST up reply actions
I do.
He’s a CB. CBs always get overpaid in free agency. While he does have major lapses in play at times he’s decent the rest of the time and now has some signature stats. Someone’s throwing a contract at him that the Bills probably shouldn’t match but might have to.
by twoeightnine on Dec 7, 2010 10:12 PM EST up reply actions
Yes. He's no superstar
but he’s been playing well and Terrence McGee is perennially injured. He’s not going to demand top money either.
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Yup it’s in the article. :-)
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by MattRichWarren on Dec 7, 2010 6:38 PM EST up reply actions
Since it published.
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by MattRichWarren on Dec 7, 2010 7:04 PM EST up reply actions
Yes
Just turn around once in awhile – this kid drives me crazy on those interference calls as he RARELY turns to look for the ball. He might have 6 picks by now if he did.
by AlwaysaBillinPhilly on Dec 7, 2010 3:40 PM EST reply actions
Last time this type of poll was put up
Stevie dropped a TD pass…
If something happens this weekend and Florence has a horrible play that costs the Bills the game I am definitely saying there is a BR curse!
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Things have been messed up long enough at OBD to give BR a pass on any curse.
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by TheAfghanTwilight on Dec 8, 2010 7:30 AM EST up reply actions
Fair enough
"It’s like I’ve always said, don’t tell me about the labor pains, just show me the baby."
- Buddy Nix
Voted Yes
He has played very well this season (interference calls aside) and seems to genuinely want to play in Buffalo. Add that to his experience and leadership and I think you get him locked up prior to FA. The deal must be relevant in relation to his age however. 3 years/13mil????
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