My Big Fat Bills Mock Draft
This mock will focus on strengthening the offensive and defensive lines. It is my opinion that a combination of injury, lack of talent on the roster, lack of availability of impact Free Agents do to the current CBA situation, and the switch to the 3-4 defense makes drafting line heavy a very prudent move. I hope the Bills take a similar approach come April.
Outside of QB, we have no greater need than LT. I assume Clausen and Bradford will be gone, so that leaves no QB worthy of being considered this high. Bell may be a LT, but due to his performance last season at the position, I would rather pencil him in at RT. We can't afford to take the chance of not landing a franchise LT again this year. Time to draft some competition for Bell and let the loser play RT. Butler can battle the loser for the RT position if he can stay healthy.
1 - LT - Bryan Bulaga Height: 6-6 Weight: 312 - Bulaga is my #1 LT and I hope he doesn't go sooner than expected. Bulaga is the nastiest LT in this year's draft. He reminds me of Oher, who the Bills should have taken…..but I digress. Bulaga has the prototypical quick feet and long arms that you look for. He makes his block and then looks for someone else to hit. He might lack some of the power that Davis has, but that is nothing an NFL weight room can't fix. Imagine a left side of Bulaga and Levitre.
Wood's injury was nasty. I have serious doubts as to whether he will be ready to start come September. Either way, I think we need another Guard. I would like to see Wood moved to Center, with Hang as the backup.
2 - G - Vladimir Ducasse Height: 6-5 Weight: 330 - To bad he had to have such a great Sr Bowl or we would have been able to get him in the 3rd. In case you can't tell, I am determined to fix the O-line with some depth to spare. Wood moves to C and Ducasse takes his place at RG. “Excellent size with a huge frame and long arms --- Tough, physical and aggressive --- Very strong --- Good athleticism and agility --- Quick and fires off the snap --- Light on his feet --- Gets an outstanding push in the run game --- Stout at the point of attack and can anchor --- Mobile with range to pull, get out in space and reach the second level --- Is feisty and competitive with a nasty on-field demeanor --- Zealous work ethic --- Is versatile --- Durable --- Experienced --- Considerable upside.” http://www.draftcountdown.com/ScoutingReports/OT/Vladimir-Ducasse.php
I would rather not see Williams as our starting NT. Here is a guy who is more of what we are looking for in a 3-4 NT.
3 - NT - Torrell Troup Height: 6-3 Weight: 314 - Troup is the 3rd best NT behind Williams and Cody and has enough talent to start for the Bills at NT. Has the frame to put on more weight. Strong at the point of attack which helps him be a good run stuffer. Hard worker and seems very likable.
http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/players/1621669
http://www.fftoolbox.com/nfl_draft/profile_display.cfm?prospect_id=2444
4. DE - Brandon Deaderick Height: 6-4 Weight: 295 - Rotational DE to start the season with the potential to start by the end of the year. “In addition to his toughness, Deaderick also possesses an impressive combination of size and speed. He stands at 6'4'', 296 pounds and he has been clocked under 4.90 in the 40-yard dash. He needs to work on his strength--especially upper body--as he often gets handled by the bigger offensive tackles. Deaderick has plenty of experience in the 3-4 defense, and he projects as a stellar contributor for any NFL team that uses such a formation. While he can get along just fine in a 4-3, his draft position will most likely be boosted (presumably for a team that runs the 3-4 defense) by his 3-4 specialty. ” http://www.fftoolbox.com/nfl_draft/profile_display.cfm?prospect_id=2241
5 - ILB - Micah Johnson Height: 6-2 Weight: 256 - If not for injury, Johnson would go much higher and might not last this long. If his MCL tear is not healed enough and he is not able to participate in the combine, Johnson could fall to us here. He is the stack and shed linebacker we need in the middle. Very explosive with good sideline to sideline range. Huge upside.
http://www.nfldraftscout.com/ratings/dsprofile.php?pyid=65555&draftyear=2010&genpos=ILB
6 - QB - John Skelton Height: 6-5 Weight: 250 - Anyone who knows me knows I have to include a developmental QB in my mock. Skelton is a poor mans Flacco. He lacks some of the polish Flacco had, but the potential is there. “East-West Shrine Tuesday Practice: None of the East quarterbacks, John Skelton (Fordham), Daryll Clark (Penn State) and Mike Kafka (Northwestern), had particularly strong days. Skelton clearly has the best size and arm strength, but failed to hit his target most times. It's difficult for quarterbacks and receivers to get on the same page early in the week, so even though Skelton couldn't connect with receivers downfield, the fact he could drive the ball deep while the Big Ten quarterbacks struggled to do so is still in his favor.” - Chad Reuter, The Sports Xchange, NFLDraftScout.com
7 - NT - Kade Weston Height: 6-5 Weight: 325 - Developmental NT. Can't find much on this guy yet.. Maybe some of our Georgia fans can fill us in?
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Joohn Skelton
I like this pick but I think he will fall to undrafted FA
He has the tools but is a HUGE HUGE project. Kiper and McShay have discussed Skelton in their previous podcast.
I think Skelton will show well at the combine....enough to sneak into the later rounds anyway.
If we end up with Vick, T.O., Richie I., and Porter….that is really pushing the dbag density limit for one team.
and why let him fall into free agency?
when you can draft him and make sure you get him
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by Joe Goodberry on Feb 11, 2010 3:17 PM EST up reply actions
WR?
I think we need to draft a WR at some point…with TO, Reed, and Parrish presumably leaving and with Hardy’s potential still unknown, i think we have a void a WR…but maybe we can pick one up in Free agency…but other than that, nice draft
Haven’t they drafted enough WRs the last couple years? I like the FA idea and stick to the trenches for the draft
Trample the weak, hurdle the dead!
Nelson almost counts as a WR too
If we end up with Vick, T.O., Richie I., and Porter….that is really pushing the dbag density limit for one team.
They’ve drafted two in the last two years and Owens and Reed are free agents while Parrish is pretty worthless at WR. I think it’s time to draft another one and bring in one via FA.
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by MattRichWarren on Feb 15, 2010 9:30 AM EST up reply actions
Hardy and Johnson need to step it up or, yeah....we could need a WR.
If we end up with Vick, T.O., Richie I., and Porter….that is really pushing the dbag density limit for one team.
Vladimir Ducasse Height: 6-5 Weight: 330
Thats a big ass Guard isnt it? But seems like he would be a valued peice to our O-line puzzle, if as good as advertised.
I like the draft for the most part. Im still hoping we end up with more picks via trading away some of our D that doesnt fit the 3-4 too well. (Schobel, Williams, Kelsey)
I believe were going to need some playmaking ability in this draft. At WR and RB. WR because we have Lee, and then a giant drop off. Dont think TO or Reed will be back. And a third, homerun speed RB would be nice. McCluster in the 4th if still available would be amazing.
Overall pretty decent. That NT isnt a bad option either, if the first two are gone. Wish he was a little bigger though.
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I love Ducasse's size and the fact he carries it so well. They actually had him try LT at the Sr Bowl. That is how good he is.
If we end up with Vick, T.O., Richie I., and Porter….that is really pushing the dbag density limit for one team.
didnt catch the Senior Bowl..
But with that size theres no reason to try him out there at least. But yeah hes one big dude lol.
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Good draft… It so hard to project some of the lower round prospects this early in the process. They only changes I would make are Anthony Davis over Bulaga but you can argue for either guy and I would try to some Wr help maybe later in the draft besides that pretty good job
by Circle The Wagon on Feb 11, 2010 11:56 AM EST reply actions
Thanks. It is hard to slot many of the later round guys before the combine
I many have drastically undervalued Johnson. He could go much earlier
If we end up with Vick, T.O., Richie I., and Porter….that is really pushing the dbag density limit for one team.
Brandon Deaderick
I don’t really like this guys name….
I of course selected the last response in the poll…..
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I would have been disappointed if you would have voted any other way :-)
If we end up with Vick, T.O., Richie I., and Porter….that is really pushing the dbag density limit for one team.
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LOL....Thanks. Maybe I should have called it my Viagra draft :-)
If we end up with Vick, T.O., Richie I., and Porter….that is really pushing the dbag density limit for one team.
I wonder if this draft is realistic?
I like it, but I wodner how disciplined the FO could be about taking trench guys and another project at QB. Don’t they have 2 projects already?
I’d rather they pick BPA each and every time they can. But yes, I like your draft overall.
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by TheAfghanTwilight on Feb 11, 2010 12:59 PM EST reply actions
That is kinda were I am at. Yes I would like to see the Bills go with a draft similar to this, but when I hear people say that this team has bigger needs at different positions I cringe. In my opinion top end talent is this teams biggest need.
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I still think that if there’s a QB to be had at #9, they need to take him. There’s far more linemen available in a given draft than there are QBs. I’d rather they address that need first, if it IS a need. And yes, we don’t know for sure if they see QB as a need. Nix may have said things alluding to that fact, but i’m not sold on them giving up on Edwards, or giving Brohm a fair shake.
So if Bradford or Clausen are there, I hope they take a QB.
Plus…….If they don’t want a QB, it could turn out to be trade leverage by taking one. Suppose no team wants to trade with Buffalo for the 9th pick, thinking that QB may is still be after the 8th pick. Maybe they’re counting on riding it out past the 11th pick. Well if Buffalo pulls the monkey wrench out, suddenly a desperate team may come calling with a trade not unlike what the Giants gave the Chargers. I know: pipe dreams and jello streams, but it’s something to consider.
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by TheAfghanTwilight on Feb 11, 2010 1:50 PM EST up reply actions
Not sure I follow you about the QBs
We have Edwards, Fitz, and Brohm. We know what we got in Fitz…..a backup. We are fairly certain Edwards can’t be the man. He lost the team to Fitz, unless you want to pin that all on T.O.? Other than Brohm, who sadly has a shot at being the starter, we don’t have a long term QB project.
If we end up with Vick, T.O., Richie I., and Porter….that is really pushing the dbag density limit for one team.
I don’t think Edwards should be discounted as a project for this new regime. I also can’t agree that Brohm should be seen as a sad situation at QB. He has more experience and may have worked growing pains out better than any rookie they might sign. And yes, i’d still love them to land one of the top QBs.
I’m not saying Brohm is the next Favre, but how many people thought Favre would do anything after flopping about in Atlanta early on? Why can’t Brohm be someone that might blossom? Has he really had a fair opportunity anywhere yet?
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by TheAfghanTwilight on Feb 11, 2010 1:53 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
The sad part is that a guy we picked up last year off someone's practice squad is our best chance this year at having a decent QB
I hope Brohm does blossom into a franchise QB and not another pansy.
If we end up with Vick, T.O., Richie I., and Porter….that is really pushing the dbag density limit for one team.
One thing to consider about Edwards being a project QB is that his contract is up after this season. It’s easy for a team to stash a young mid to late round QB on the back end of the roster with a cheap salary and team control for four seasons. But if another team thinks that Edwards could be a solid backup, then he’s worth at least 1.5 mil per season and if somebody thinks he’s a good backup, then he’s up around 2-2.5 mil per.
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like the idea of providing a strong line
for whoever we end up with at the QB position, ideally we build the D and O-line this year and make every effort to got locker next year
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I like it
I might go elsewhere in round 2. If the plan is to play Ducasse at RT in the future, I’d be a little more down with it. 3 OG’s in the first 2 rounds of consecutive drafts seems a bit excessive though.
I don’t think Troup can come in and start right away, if that’s what you’re inferring. I still think we need to find a vet NT somewhere and bring a rookie along somewhat slowly. Like the pick though.
We have the extra 6th and 7th round picks from the Peters and Simpson trades, too….
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Thanks.....but no love for Ducasse at RG?
Assuming Wood can play again, wouldn’t you rather see him play Center? Who would you want to play RG if Wood does move to Center?
I am not sure the Bills would have a choice but to start Troup, but a Vet would be better….any ideas?
Crap….forgot about the extra picks……guess we can draft some DBs after all :-)
If we end up with Vick, T.O., Richie I., and Porter….that is really pushing the dbag density limit for one team.
If the plan is to move Wood to Center
then I’d be fine with it. But do we know that is the plan? Because it probably should be the plan.
I don’t know about the vets. Who knows who will be kept by their current teams. I just don’t think it’s the best idea trying to force a mid round pick into the starting lineup because there are no other options. We’ll see, but I’d rather a rookie, if it’s not Dan Williams or Cody, be given a chance to get their feet wet instead of being tossed into the fire…
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Swap 4&5 and I like it
Got no problem with the selections, just think you need to swap order at 4&5. You’re probably reaching to fill a need there and letting the better player pass.
good call....I seriously considered doing that
From a BPA stand point, you are right. I just felt that a true 3-4 DE was a greater need. Do you think we could get both if we swapped them?
If we end up with Vick, T.O., Richie I., and Porter….that is really pushing the dbag density limit for one team.
not sure...
but i am more sure we would not get both if you didn’t swap them. if micah johnson shows up at the combine and his foot and knee look 100%, he may skyrocket into the third even.
Wood’s injury was nasty. I have serious doubts as to whether he will be ready to start come September. Either way, I think we need another Guard. I would like to see Wood moved to Center, with Hang as the backup.
I think Ducasse could play RT down the road too. So that gives you all sorts of versatility along the OL if some random player or future late round pick comes out of nowhere to force himself into the lineup. I wouldn’t mind the Ducasse pick, but I don’t think it’s a necessary one. The Jets and Cowboys are the only teams in the league that built their OL entirely out of early round picks and quality FA additions. That even includes Brandon Moore who went undrafted, but was resigned to a solid contract about the same time as the Jets line was rebuilt. Most of the good OLs in the league include mid and late round picks that earn playing time as youngsters and/or some junk FAs. So with that in mind, I don’t think it’s necessary for Buffalo to invest so heavily on the OL for two consecutive years in the draft because I think we can count on other guys to emerge. You can get away with a couple average starters along the OL a lot easier than you can at a spot like WR or a pass rushing position.
I’m a big believer in there not being one way to build a team, but if I did have a philosophy, it’d be balance. So, while three run stuffers (Troup, Weston and Johnson) and one run/pass versatile defender (Deadrick) would be pretty awesome, I’d love to see a pass rusher in there somewhere too. In today’s NFL, you need to slow down the best QBs to go far and the only ways to do that are to be conservative, bend but don’t break type of D (which I think I remember you not being a big fan of) or you need to get pressure on the QB. I think that finding a big time pass rusher (maybe it’s Maybin) is just as important for this D as a NT is. Maybe not for this year, but for winning a Super Bowl down the road.
I think there are too many 3-4 teams and too few true 3-4 ILBs in this draft for Johnson to slide.
I was dissapointed with Skelton at the Shrine game, but it’s mostly because his feet looked really heavy. That could be coachable though and with more fluid movement in the pocket and better footwork, his accuracy could come together and he’d be a great pick in the later rounds. Supposedly he has work ethic questions, but playing at Fordham, that’s understandable. I doubt anybody there tried to teach him how to put the necessary work in because they’re not worrying about the NFL or preparing for games like major college programs are.
I don’t think Troup could start this year, but you could probably get a lot out of him as a rotational guy. I also like that you didn’t just find the fattest NT you could find. At 310-315, Troup is stouter than most college guys who are 20 and 30 pounds heavier. That’s a good sign.
I gave it a solid B as a draft I’d be pretty happy to see the Bills pull off, but couldn’t give it an A because I think Ducasse and Deadrick are just OK picks and the lack of big play weapons (OLB, speedy RB and any type of WR).
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Nice analysis
So do you think Wood starts? Would Wood be better off at Center? Given the value of OTs in this league, I don’t think you can have to many of them.
I think Stroud and Williams can be our pass rushing DEs for this year and doesn’t the pass rush in a 3-4 come from the blitzing LBs?
Where do you think Johnson will go? Any ILBs you think the Bills should look at in the mid rounds?
Skelton didn’t impress at the Shrine game. But picking between him and Kafka, I took the guy with the stronger arm. I am definitely not married to that pick.
I am fine with not taking a RB or WR this year.
If we end up with Vick, T.O., Richie I., and Porter….that is really pushing the dbag density limit for one team.
So do you think Wood starts?
I don’t have the slightest idea.
Would Wood be better off at Center?
Haha, “Would Wood”. And probably a little. I don’t think it matters much. It’s impossible to not like the idea of Levitre and Wood having long and successful careers right next to each other though.
I’d be perfectly fine with the Ducasse pick, but as strange as it sounds, I believe that it’s thinking too short term. What if Bulaga can’t play LT? What if Bell turns out to be awesome? What if Butler has another couple healthy seasons in a row? I know that Ducasse is probably a great fit inside too, but I think Buffalo needs to address all the parts of the team these next couple offseasons while still giving the unheralded players currently on the roster and that they add soon the time to surprise. With all the changes going on, some players are going to step up and since we don’t know who those guys will be, I don’t think it’s smart to overcommit to one position.
Then again, I’m also a guy who believes in balance and that no part of the team (save QB) is really much more important than the other parts. I don’t think the 5 starters on the OL are more important than if you combined the 5 other most important non-QB position (RB, TE, WR, WR, WR). In fact, I think you could make a case that those 5 positions combined are more impactful than the OL and that a great group of weapons and an average OL makes for a better team than a great OL and an average group of weapons. So, if you believe that strongly in the OL, than you’ve gotta go for it. You’ve got to make sure that it’s as strong as possible.
doesn’t the pass rush in a 3-4 come from the blitzing LBs?
Yeah, but do we really have those? San Diego’s defense has missed Shawne Merriman way more than they’ve ever missed Jamal Williams. The Jets didn’t have much of a dropoff without Jenkins and the Dolphins did just fine after Ferguson got hurt. And I think that’s because the Jets bring all kinds of exotic looks and pressure and the Dolphins had a stable of good pass rushers. You’ve got to get after the QB and Buffalo is maybe one year away from Maybin and Ellis being the only guys under contract. Kelsay is a goner and Schobel is old, talking about retiring, expensive and doesn’t fit the new scheme. Buffalo really needs an OLB in this draft.
Where do you think Johnson will go? Any ILBs you think the Bills should look at in the mid rounds?
3rd or 4th if his recovery goes alright. And no, not really. That’s why I don’t think Johnson will still be there in the 5th round. It’s the same reason that everybody thinks the NTs like Thomas and Troup will go so high, there are only a handful of 3-4 ILBs in this draft. Johnson is one of them. It’s pretty much just him, McClain and Spikes. Everybody else is an undersized project for the position or lacks the athletic ability to go earlier than the later rounds.
Skelton didn’t impress at the Shrine game. But picking between him and Kafka, I took the guy with the stronger arm
I liked the Skelton pick. He dissapointed me, but I went into that game thinking he could be a 3rd round pick. He didn’t come close to that, but I still like his upside in the late rounds.
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Good reply
What if Bell turns out to be awesome? What if Butler has another couple healthy seasons in a row?
Then the Bills would be in a great position to trade both a franchise LT and RT (without creating a hole) and get a boat load of picks or a player(s) of their choice in trade. Either way, win win.
So, if you believe that strongly in the OL, than you’ve gotta go for it.
Yeah, you know me….love the fat guys :-)
Schobel is old, talking about retiring, expensive and doesn’t fit the new scheme.
I wonder what is taking him so long to decide? Makes me think he is letting the Bills explore trade options or is going to come back. Either way, we should get a pick for him or his services at OLB for another year. OLB would still be a need, but not quite as big.
Johnson…3rd or 4th if his recovery goes alright
I was afraid of that. Might have to take him in the 3rd if we want him.
If we end up with Vick, T.O., Richie I., and Porter….that is really pushing the dbag density limit for one team.
I do not think you....
have to worry about Chan drafting a WR or RB. I just hope it is in the later rounds.
I gave it a C
Everyone knows that I love watching offensive linemen and that I am pretty much always hoping that Buffalo takes linemen early…..but two linemen in the first and second rounds is a bit much given the slate of needs on defense. The Bills need to come away from the offseason with a starting caliber LT—and the draft is apparently the only real chance for getting that done. As to the interior of the line, right now the staring lineup would be Levitre-Hang-Incognito with Wood hopefully returning and Butler available (until he gets hurt) to slide back to guard in a pinch.
I am, of course, hoping to see the Bills get their top rated LT in the draft. However, OBD reportedly had Levitre as their top rated lineman and snagged him late in the second round. Hopefully whomever ranked the offensive linemen is still around as Bills fans could use a Nostradamus in the front office evaluating draft prospects.
It can always get worse. Let me tell you how.
Granted it is a lot of picks to sink into the O-line, but it would also be making a statement about our commitment to protecting the QB and running the ball
Are you really sold on Hang and Incognito being anything more than average? Could we for once have a dominant line on one side of the ball, please? Given our current situation at QB and the likely event we will have a rookie QB starting for us in the next year or two, I think that making an investment in the O-line is a wise move. Granted the D-line needs some work, but it is not like I completely ignored it. Assuming you are on board with LT in the first round, who do you think that the Bills should take on defense in the second?
If we end up with Vick, T.O., Richie I., and Porter….that is really pushing the dbag density limit for one team.
Hang is an average center, quite an improvement from what we endured for 3 of Jauron’s years as head coach. The jury is out on Incognito given his limited playing time in Buffalo. However, I can’t call either of those positions critical needs—particularly since Wood will hopefully be back. Levitre-Wood-Butler, by the way, would be a fantastic interior line.
I’ll have to read a lot more about the defensive prospects before settling on which defenders to take when. I’m neither on nor off board with taking a LT in the first round. As I said, if the Bills can get their top rated OT late in the 2nd round a la Levitre circa 2009 then it would make sense to devote the first round pick to defense….or trade down to address multiple other needs.
It can always get worse. Let me tell you how.
Yeah, for the 3 games until Bulter goes down with an injury
No doubt Levitre was a great pick, but it is much easier to grab a G in the 2-3rd rounds than a LT, IMO. That said, it would be hard to argue with trading down to get more picks.
If we end up with Vick, T.O., Richie I., and Porter….that is really pushing the dbag density limit for one team.
Love it Joe!
But how is Ralph and Russ going to market theses guys? haha. Any chance we can slip Ralph and Russ a few Tylenol PM’s a couple hours before the draft?
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I like this draft but would go with Thomas in2 as NT. Anyway I understand the need for a QB but if the top two aren’t worthy then don’t take one just to have a QB. OT is much stronger this year so start there. The QBs are much deeper next year so the ability to get a better propect next year is higher. Take the later round project this year.
I would look Thomas in 2, then Jerry at OG and Johnson at LB in 3 and 4. just a different take but yours would be a solid B in my book.
by audthoughts on Feb 11, 2010 3:56 PM EST via mobile reply actions
Good thoughts....and certainly a more balanced approach. Thanks for the feedback.
My idea behind taking a late round QB is to see if the guy can develop. Kind of like the Pats did with Cassell. If you can take a guy in the 6-7th round and develop him into a starting caliber QB, you are in a great position. Keep him if your current QB is not as good, or trade him for a 1st rounder. Win win.
If we end up with Vick, T.O., Richie I., and Porter….that is really pushing the dbag density limit for one team.
Love this draft.
The lines are the first thing you have to look at with playoff teams. The better the line the easier it is for the skills to produce. I think the O-line would be set for at least the next 7 or 8 years if this happens and Wood returns to full health. Sprinkle in some solid backups in the next few years and you have one of the best O-lines in football.
I especially love the no reaching as far as QBs go. I honestly think both Clausen and Bradford are not going to amount to much in the NFL. And they DEFINITELY wont progress into the players everyone THINKS they can become if they dont have solid blockers in front of them. Draft our future QB next year. Whatever it takes, get the top rated QB in 2011 draft.
I voted for A, but I give it an A-. I would swap Skelton for a WR.
What are your thoughts as to what the Bills should do with the QB situation for next year?
Thanks....as far as the QB situation for the 2010 season
I am very tempted to roll with what we have. Yeah…..it is a scary thought. Who knows….maybe behind a decent O-line that can give a QB a nice pocket for 3-4 secs and can create holes for our running attack, maybe Fitz becomes consistently accurate, Edwards finds his stones, or Brohm becomes the next Brett Farve. I don’t want to waste valuable picks on a Vet that might be able to squeeze 2 or 3 extra wins to get us to 7-9 again. We should only go after a Vet stop gap QB if it doesn’t cost us much. How much depends on the guy. My guess is we are in for a rough season. Given the greater amount of depth in next year’s QB class, I think we will be in a better position to draft a QB next year.
If we end up with Vick, T.O., Richie I., and Porter….that is really pushing the dbag density limit for one team.
I couldn't agree more about the QB situation.....
I loved the concentration on improving the line. Build up the swiss cheese OL, and I could see an improvement in the QB play. I really like this mock, probably the best I’ve seen so far.
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by UtahBillsFan on Feb 11, 2010 10:06 PM EST up reply actions
Thanks.....fixing the O-line helps the QB, the running game, and the defense (on the field less).
If we end up with Vick, T.O., Richie I., and Porter….that is really pushing the dbag density limit for one team.
Oh yeah.....
I voted A, and rec’d.
Why do today, when it can wait til tomorrow; the games on!
by UtahBillsFan on Feb 11, 2010 10:07 PM EST up reply actions
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I like Bulaga if both Bradford and Clausen are gone (although if Buffalo really loves one of them, they better trade up and get him and not settle for a 2nd tier prospect a la the Roethlisberger/ Losman debacle)…I also like the emphasis on linemen even if I don’t know these players (I don’t follow the draft all that closely)…I also love that there are no DBs or RBs in this draft…a nice departure from the Jauron days….I’d be pretty bummed if Buffalo waited until the 6th round to address the QB position though. I’m optimistic that Nix won’t let that happen.
Aaron Maybin is DeMarcus Ware 2.0.
Really like your draft
I we did this I’d be estatic. But I think it’s fairly unrealistic.
Bulaga is right in Buffalo’s draft range, but your next few picks are a tad too low. Ducasse has an outside chance to make it in the first round. It would be a nice surprise is he made it to pick 41. Plus, Bulaga and Ducasse have RT as their best position potentially, so we may be double tapping a position (RT).
Troup may end up a second round pick, and I don’t see him making it to pick 73. Deaderick is also probably a 4th rounder, and Johnson a 5th rounder.
Something to consider for this draft: After the 1st and 2nd rounds, there is roughly an 18 hour break. This gives teams a lot of time to restack their boards. Guys like Ducasse, Troup, etc. are going to move up boards during the round breaks as teams see that the OL and DT prospects have dwindled. It’ll spark a lot of trading for the top picks in the 2nd and 3rd rounds, IMO, similar to what the Jets did to acquire Shonn Greene.
Thanks.....It might be a little optimistic....hard to tell at this point.... rankings should settle in after the combine
I guess it is just me, but I would like to see Ducasse play Guard for the Bills. He needs time to get used to the speed he is going to see in the NFL. Here are his weakness as described by draftcountdown.com – “Questionable instincts and awareness - Inconsistent leverage and pad level - Footwork will need to be refined - Average slide and mirror ability - Trouble sustaining and falls off blocks - Concentration and focus will wane at times - Did not face a lot of quality competition.” Sounds to me like he would be better off as a Guard in the NFL, but he certainly has the talent to move to RG if we get bit by the injury bug.
Your point about trades is still valid, but remember the new draft schedule. Rd. 1: Thurs., April 22, 7:30 p.m. ET Rd. 2-3: Fri., April 23, 6:30 p.m. ET Rd. 4-7: Sat., April 24, 10 a.m.
If we end up with Vick, T.O., Richie I., and Porter….that is really pushing the dbag density limit for one team.
My bad
I was thinking is was round 1 on Thursday, round 2 on Friday and the rest on Saturday.
The concept is still valid, just for rounds 2 and 4.
I'm here Joe....
7 – NT – Kade Weston Height: 6-5 Weight: 325 – Developmental NT. Can’t find much on this guy yet.. Maybe some of our Georgia fans can fill us in?
He’s somewhat of an enigma IMO… When Owens was out season before last, he did really well, outplaying the more heralded Atkins. AND!!! Weston was the starter this past year over Atkins!!! But it really didn’t matter alot who was listed the starter, since they rotated alot… I really doubt however, that after the combine, he will be available after rds 3-4… A (very) little shorter but heavier, Stroud type athlete but has never really lived up to his potential… He’s not your nose tackle type either however I’m afraid, but might work his way into a really good DE in a 3-4 though, or DT in a 4-3….
Of the 3 UGA DTs available this year, I’m almost opposite the way the “pundits” list them… I go Owens (there’s your NT), Weston, Atkins…
Good info...thanks
Owens is coming off a knee injury. How is his recovery going? Also, does Owens have the frame to put on a few lbs?
If we end up with Vick, T.O., Richie I., and Porter….that is really pushing the dbag density limit for one team.
Watching him play...
you could see he wasn’t his “old” self this past year, but I think he’s gonna blow everyone away at the combine, maybe even topping out as the strongest lineman in the lift… And yeah, I think he can add enough weight to go with his strength and be a helluva NT….. Figure too, before the injury, he was rated a top 5 pick by most…. Maybe a Thurman Thomas type second rd steal for someone…..
nice....I can't wait until the combine. Owens is on my players to watch list :-)
If we end up with Vick, T.O., Richie I., and Porter….that is really pushing the dbag density limit for one team.
BTW...
While I really like the Bulaga pick, I don’t even want to think about drafting another guard high for a few years… Besides, a Line of Bulaga, Levitre, Woods, Cogs, and Butler; with Hang, Mckinney, Bell, and Meredith in reserve would be the envy of the league I think… I’m hoping that a “wow” player falls to us in the second, regardless of position, a player we just have to grab… Spikes? Weatherspoon? Williams or Gilyard???
Some would say Ducasse would be that "wow" player
but I see were you are going. A player like Weatherspoon would be tough to pass up.
If we end up with Vick, T.O., Richie I., and Porter….that is really pushing the dbag density limit for one team.
Lines are the way to go.
Without winning the battles of the lines teams have little chance for success. Good mock draft. Rather than picking a QB where you, did why not go after another LB. I still think there is QB talent wasting away on Baltimores bench, T. Smith. If the OL works out as well as we all hope, depending if he is available, a good WR to draft would be Shipley. Route runnering god.
Personally, I see no problem with this crew, except that I think there’ll be a trade or two to get more picks. If that happens, I’d expect a QB earlier (like third round, where someone said Kyle Williams could easily fetch) and a WR in the sixth space. Then again, the WR position has actual value available in the FA market this year, so maybe an RB prospect in there. Or, of course, an additional NT.
Still, OT is the top priority.
Pretty good picks...... except I don't like...
2 – G – Vladimir Ducasse Height: 6-5 Weight: 330
No way. We have too many other needs. We have Hang as an OK center, Wood will hopefully be back, and Cogs as the other guard.
No 2nd round picks on a guard.
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by SERGEANT MAJOR THOR on Feb 11, 2010 9:34 PM EST reply actions
Building a house
A house starts with a good foundation, lets solidify the O-line before anything else.
Sorry Joey
I love you man, but I’m going pants shopping with sireric!
Mainly because I just can’t accept a guard in the second round! If Wood comes back healthy we have Hang, Levitre, Wood with Incognito as a backup. I think thats unlikely, but in that event we have Cogs. We have so many bigger needs than a guard and the fact is, no matter how excited we get about the NFL draft we usually discover every year that outside of the first two rounds, players aren’t starting – even then its not a sure thing.
With the second rounder I need a guy to plug into a starting role that we cant already fill by signing a decent player – aka Cogs at guard. If Schobel retires we are in big trouble with this mock. No linebacker in the first three rounds? Despite the fact we’ll be starting four of them next year?
I also can’t get on board with your only QB being Skelton. He doesn’t have what it takes in my humble opinion to be an NFL quarterback. If your going to wait that long for a QB might as well get a project at another position who can work later down the road.
I like Troup and I like Bulaga….ok, its really not that bad of a mock. But I had to vote pants shopping with E because I will die if we take a guard in the second. We invested a first and a second on two guards last year. If we do it again we’ll be playing the Jauron game that he used to enjoy with corners. We have so many other needs. If you take something different in the second I give you a B. But until then I just can’t like this mock.
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Hahahha....you should know your in trouble when you agree with sireric :-)
I know that G is not our biggest individual need, but we all know important continuity is to an O-line. We have got to stop jerking around and fix it. Cogs is like the new Scubba Steve but worse! What has Cogs done that would lead anyone to believe he is anything more than a penalty waiting to happen? What if Wood can’t make it back? How long do we really want Hang as our Center? Fix the O-line and we fix our QB situation no matter what we do. Short term- more protection for EdFitzBro. Long term – our new rookie QB steps onto the field behind a good O-line and doesn’t get killed, he has a running game (see Sanchez), and it helps our defense by keeping them off the field. Ducasse will start on day one because Wood will still be rehabing or hopefully playing C , and Ducasse can play RT if we need him to.
No LB is an issue, but you can’t fix everything at once. Hello FA, wavier wire, and PS poaching. Skelton was never meant to be our starting QB….maybe 3-4 years from now if whoever they draft doesn’t pan out.
If we end up with Vick, T.O., Richie I., and Porter….that is really pushing the dbag density limit for one team.
hahaha you know your in trouble when your pants shopping with sireric!!
I hear bro, I really do. But here is where I’m at – Hang is still relatively young and he can get the job done even if he isnt great. Shouldn’t a guy like Hang be the last thing we upgrade? With so many desperate needs, I think Hang should feel secure for the next few seasons with his gig.
EdFitzBro – great name!
Your right Cogs is a flag waiting to happen, but I’d rather get flags then let our QB or RBs get killed by defenders. Cogs is a mean SOB and if we arent looking to win now, Cogs should be just fine until Wood is back (IF Wood is back). I love the Bulaga pick and I like Troup but wouldn’t be great to nab a real impact OLB/DE tweener in the second? Or a better NT like Cody? I’d even be more down with a DE or WR in the second. We have soooo many needs that maybe fixing the trenches is the right thing to do but think of it this way: If we take Bulaga like you did and he wins out at LT and Bell and Butler fight it out for RT and Bell wins. Heck, we can just plug Butler back into RG until Wood gets back with Cogs as a great reserve. If Butler proves he can stay healthy we might be able to replace Hang as you want anyway with Wood upon his return. Our line would then be Bulaga – Levitre – Wood – Butler – Bell with Cogs and Hang rounding out great depth for all five o-line positions. I think Kaisertown said it best when he pointed out we might only be one great player away from a nasty o-line. The key word is MIGHT I suppose. But thats where I’m at.
By the way, I’m also looking forward to many revised and updated versions of this mock up until April!
"you just have to know there's always going to be adversity. None of these games are going to be easy. Nothing will be given to us" - Paul Posluszny
Not "Big" on Cody...Bwhahahahhaha....but good ideas.
Do you think Butler can be counted on to stay healthy? Are you giving up on Hardy and Johnson?
If we end up with Vick, T.O., Richie I., and Porter….that is really pushing the dbag density limit for one team.
im not giving up on Hardy and Johnson
I actually think Hardy should get a chance to start. But I do think we need depth. After Lee, Hardy and Steve (two of which are question marks) Roscoe is the next best thing we got. Not very comforting…
"you just have to know there's always going to be adversity. None of these games are going to be easy. Nothing will be given to us" - Paul Posluszny
given the difficultly of a rookie WR to make an impact, we better look for a Vet if we need someone else
If we end up with Vick, T.O., Richie I., and Porter….that is really pushing the dbag density limit for one team.
I think a slot guy would make for a great pickup in the draft. We don’t have one on the roster and they regularly contribute early. A guy like the recently drafted Mike Wallace (3rd round), Mike Thomas (4th), Austin Collie (4th), Julian Edelman (7th) or Sammie Stroughter (7th). Or maybe a deep threat who could play in multiple reciever sets like Louis Murphy (4th) or Johnny Knox (5th). Some of those guys have return abilities too.
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I wouldn't mind Knox in the 5th
If we end up with Vick, T.O., Richie I., and Porter….that is really pushing the dbag density limit for one team.
Baby Baby
I see them drafting big WR out of GA Tech instead of Ducasse. Not sure he is a 2nd rounder but if I scratch a top 5 pick it is the guard to fit this WR in draft
WR
I think we should at least consider looking for a WR at some point and I’m not sure about the Guard in the second round. This might be a spot where we could go BPA. I’m curious about your thoughts on possible free agent pickups? Overall, it’s a pretty solid draft. Definitely 100% needs driven and would give us a lot of depth.
I like how you emphasize the lines, meaning drafting two O-linemen and a D-lineman with the first three picks. However, personally I’d rather do it this way:
1. round – Bryan Bulaga, LT
1. round (trade up) – Terrence Cody, NT
3. round – Alex Carrington, DE
4. round – Mitch Petrus, OG
"The one commonality in both places (Oakland and Buffalo) is an aging owner who keeps interfering too much. Ralph Wilson continually butts his nose in the football operation and tells the team who to draft"
by BillsfanfromDenmark on Feb 12, 2010 10:20 AM EST reply actions
i dont think cody goes in the first
with his weight problem.
i like the bulaga pick. dont like ducasse pick (wood and cogs and hang and levitre will be good). Troup seems like a good pick too, but havent heard much about him.
i see this draft only happening if the bills pick up a qb via trade or FA. otherwise one of those top three are probably gonna be a qb in my opinion. could trade out ducasse for mccoy or tebow or some other qb….or trade him out for mount cody and then pick tebow 3rd or mccoy or defeavour…..just a thought
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by silverstreak3k on Feb 12, 2010 1:29 PM EST up reply actions
NT’s are in very, very high demand (teams like the Bills, Chargers, Pats, Vikings, Ravens and possible Jets) will all be looking at this with great interest imo., because they all want big run-stoppers at DT and there are very few of those these days.
"The one commonality in both places (Oakland and Buffalo) is an aging owner who keeps interfering too much. Ralph Wilson continually butts his nose in the football operation and tells the team who to draft"
by BillsfanfromDenmark on Feb 14, 2010 6:47 PM EST up reply actions
Cody scares the hell out of me....boom or bust
I mean….who the hell lets themselves put on that kind of weight just before the biggest job interview of your life? Kind of says a lot to be about his work ethic.
If we end up with Vick, T.O., Richie I., and Porter….that is really pushing the dbag density limit for one team.

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