State of the Bills Roster: Cornerback
Chan Gailey's first, and already his boldest, move as new head coach of the Buffalo Bills has been to install a 3-4 defense, led by defensive coordinator George Edwards. While no one's sure exactly what that 3-4 system will look like, it'll be a fairly dramatic change for a Bills team that has run the 4-3 as its base defense since Gregg Williams' arrival as head coach in 2001.
While the majority of that overhaul will take place in the defensive front seven, perhaps Gailey's smartest coaching hire came in the retention of defensive backs coach George Catavolos. Hired by Dick Jauron in 2006, Catavolos has decades of experience coaching in the secondary, and having spent four years in Buffalo already, he'll be keenly aware of exactly what type of talent the team possesses in the defensive backfield.
Buffalo has invested quite a bit into the cornerback position over the last four years. Of the seven they currently employ, four were Jauron-era draft picks, one received a lucrative contract extension in 2009, and another was one of the team's best and most critical free agent signings of the past year. After the jump, you'll find our analysis of Buffalo's talented and deep cornerback position.
What the new regime might be looking for
Not much. The top of the depth chart appears to be set, and there is more depth here than at pretty much any other spot on the roster. You can never have enough good defensive backs, however, so to assume that this position will be completely left alone would be unwise. With the switch to the 3-4 coming up, cover corners with man coverage skills will be emphasized far more than they were under Dick Jauron and Perry Fewell; that's not to say, however, that Buffalo's current corners lack those skills.
Current personnel
Buffalo currently employs a lot of defensive backs, but for the purposes of this discussion and projecting where players should fit into the new defensive scheme, we're listing seven players as cornerbacks.
Terrence McGee. The veteran has put together a pretty solid career in Buffalo. He signed a rather lucrative contract extension last season, which could keep McGee - who will turn 30 during the 2010 season - in town for the entirety of his NFL career. He's still got plenty left in the tank, but I'm curious to see how he handles more man coverage responsibilities as the Bills switch to a 3-4.
Contract status: 4 years remaining. Owed $13.7M in base salaries and $6M in non-prorated bonuses.
Drayton Florence. Florence will also turn 30 during the 2010 season. He cut his NFL teeth in San Diego, where he was a nickel corner playing man coverage in Wade Phillips' 3-4 defense. Given that experience and his excellent 2009 season, Florence might draw opposing teams' top receivers more often than McGee next year. I don't foresee any circumstance in which Florence isn't a starter for this defense next year.
Contract status: Entering final year of 2-year, $6.6M deal.
Leodis McKelvin. Buffalo's first round draft choice in 2008, McKelvin's career has gotten off to something of a rocky start. He hasn't developed as quickly as hoped, a problem exacerbated by his only appearing in three games last season before hitting IR with a fractured fibula. Right now, McKelvin's potential remains solid, but he'll need to earn his keep as a sub-package corner and as a return man, where he was one of the game's most explosive playmakers as a rookie in 2008.
Contract status: 3 years remaining. Owed $3.0225M in base salaries.
Reggie Corner. He's been very up and down in his first two years. He's played a lot of nickel and dime back, and for every excellent pass break-up or open-field tackle he registers - he's had a fair few, by the way - he'll make mistakes in space. He's not a superb tackler, but that might not be as big an issue under George Edwards. There's certainly enough here to work with, making Corner a solid option as a No. 4 or a No. 5 corner.
Contract status: 2 years remaining. Owed $1.025M in base salaries.
Ashton Youboty. The 2006 third round pick has been a major disappointment, showing an inability to avoid nagging injuries while riding the pine. In the rare instances he's seen the field, he's acquitted himself quite well, though. He's an RFA, and as he's unlikely to garner much interest league-wide, a low tender could be enough to bring him back in to compete for playing time.
Contract status: Restricted Free Agent
Ellis Lankster. He made some nice plays during the 2009 pre-season and training camp as a rookie seventh-round pick. He has a shot to develop into a nice sub-package corner, and is absolutely worth keeping around to, again, compete for playing time and a roster spot.
Contract status: Entering second year of multi-year contract.
Lydell Sargeant. Sargeant, like Lankster (but to a lesser extent), impressed last pre-season as an undrafted free agent out of Penn State. Then he got hurt before the regular season began and ended up as one of the first of many players to hit IR. Time will tell if he returns as a camp body.
Contract status: Undisclosed. Not listed as a free agent by BuffaloBills.com.
Who stays? Who goes?
McGee, Florence and McKelvin aren't going anywhere. They're good players, and each has a prominent role to play. I see no reason for the team to jettison solid young players like Corner or Lankster; both have potential and have familiarity with secondary coach George Catavolos. The same goes with Youboty; he's an RFA and unlikely to receive much interest league-wide, so why not let him compete (again) for a spot? That gives you six corners right there; add in another player or two to fill out the training camp roster, and we've got enough talent and depth here to avoid complaining for a while.
If I were a betting man (and no, I'm not)...
Florence, not McGee, draws top receivers next year. That's not a knock on McGee at all; Florence is just better in man coverage. McGee is a steady performer that will still play on the outside, and the new coaching staff might even let him play some nickel while getting reps for McKelvin on the edge. Leo's a guy that won't get better unless he's getting reps, so the team needs to find ways to get him onto the field if he's going to be someone's long-term replacement.
Names to keep an eye on
I'm not putting anyone here, because it's fairly clear that this position ranks quite low on the priority list. Keep an eye on extension talks for Florence; Nix drafted him in San Diego, and he really is an excellent player. Those probably won't happen until summer or perhaps even during the season - if they happen at all, obviously.
Previous installments of the State of the Bills Roster series: QB, RB, WR, TE, OT, G/C, DE, NT, OLB, ILB.
| Pos. | STARTER | Backup | Reserve | Reserve |
| WR2 | Josh Reed | Steve Johnson | Justin Jenkins | |
| LT | Demetrius Bell | Jamon Meredith | ||
| LG | Andy Levitre* | Kirk Chambers | ||
| C | Geoff Hangartner* | |||
| RG | Eric Wood* | Richie Incognito | ||
| RT | Brad Butler* | Jonathan Scott | ||
| TE | Shawn Nelson* | Derek Fine | Derek Schouman | Jonathan Stupar |
| WR1 | Lee Evans* | James Hardy | Roscoe Parrish | |
| QB | Ryan Fitzpatrick* | Trent Edwards | Brian Brohm | |
| RB | Fred Jackson* | Marshawn Lynch* | ||
| FB | Corey McIntyre | |||
| LE | Spencer Johnson* | |||
| NT | Kyle Williams* | Lonnie Harvey | ||
| RE | Marcus Stroud* | Ryan Denney | ||
| LOLB | Aaron Maybin* | |||
| LILB | Paul Posluszny* | Keith Ellison | Nic Harris | |
| RILB | Kawika Mitchell* | |||
| ROLB | Aaron Schobel* | Chris Ellis | ||
| CB1 | Drayton Florence* | Leodis McKelvin* | Ashton Youboty | |
| CB2 | Terrence McGee* | Reggie Corner | Ellis Lankster |
LEGEND
Italics = Players that could earn starting spots
Bold = Projected free agent re-signings or tenders
* = Player I consider a mortal lock for the 2010 roster
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Good write up
This is basicly the team`s strongest position. Personally I would be fine with keep all the guys that we have right now and going with them. You have a very good first 3 in T-Mac, Leo and Dray. And the support group, while not overwhelming in talent, is talented enough to, well, support. I also see us playing Lankster quite a bit more next year, possibly even as our number 4 guy if he outplays Corner in the pre-season.
by CanadianBillsFan on Feb 11, 2010 12:40 PM EST reply actions
Completely agree with this line up
I would add SS/FS solid spots as well, given the current depth here and at corner – the lone bright spot for this team
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We’ll do a separate post (probably tomorrow afternoon) for the safeties.
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by Brian Galliford on Feb 11, 2010 12:59 PM EST up reply actions
Bingo. I’ve got him down as a free safety, because that’s what he’ll have to play to stick.
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by Brian Galliford on Feb 11, 2010 1:17 PM EST up reply actions
yeah i was meaning to ask about that
seeing as we’ve been drafting “tampa 2” corners late in the draft for a while (corner, harris, lankster) which, in my understanding, means that they’re primarily zone guys and don’t have the straight line speed to play man. Does this change in scheme mean those guys can’t cut it in Buffalo anymore?
...so I guess now I root for chan gailey...
The only one I believe is truly effected is Harris. Everybody else has man coverage skills.
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by Brian Galliford on Feb 11, 2010 4:27 PM EST up reply actions
So we have Byrd, Whitner and Cary Harris at FS and Scott, Wilson and Nick Harris at SS?
by CanadianBillsFan on Feb 11, 2010 8:13 PM EST up reply actions
Strongest position on the team
In my humble opinion.
For some reason, and I just can’t quite put my finger on it, I’m really liking McKelvin’s potential. I’m hoping, as you said, that he gets some shots at playing time on the outside in spots.
If there’s two positions I’m picking to not touch, it’s corners and running backs.
We have to do something at RB, though. If we don’t re-sign the epic Justise Hairston, we’ll be going into training camp with just Freddie and Marshawn.
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by Brian Galliford on Feb 11, 2010 1:17 PM EST up reply actions
Fair enough
“Not to touch” meaning not jumbling anyone around that will (barring injury) see significant PT.
I’m coming into the season ready to see our 1-2 punch, and sure we will have to add a No. 3 to the depth chart, but I’m hoping that he won’t have to see much field time this year.
I really like how Florence played last year, he grew on me in a hurry.
Corner was very frustrating at times, “he’ll make mistakes in space” says it all, he seemed to make them a lot.
I still have very high hopes for McKelvin, I was really disappointed when he got injured. I think he’ll do some damage on special teams next year (I mean that in a positive way, Ixnay on the Pat’s game).
as long as
the mistakes aren’t due to the “space” between his ears, it may be fixable.
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We’re pretty much set at corner. And I completely agree with the fact that the starters should be McGee and Florence. I like the way Florence played, hes agressive… and now more importantly hes used to the 3-4 and the man coverage. McKelvin will need to earn his way back into playing time IMO. Hes going to be to 3rd corner but I want him pushed. Hes talented and the injury this year really hurt his development.
Lankster and Corner are decent to have too. I wish Lankster would have got more playing time, but thats WVU biased on my part. Still think he could turn into a reliable nickle/dime back.
Youboty, if hes back thats great. If not then we need to grab a 6th corner, or possibly Cary Harris. Plus Whitner played some corner. Corner is one of the few places I feel comfortable going into next year with.
"Hey ey ey ey"
Mckelvin has the athleticism just not the knowledge..yet
"Hold ya chin up...nuh nuh nuh...gone" -Marshawn Lynch-
hey hey its been awhile. Welcome back. I agree. McKelvin has the ablilty, hes just got to mentally put it together.
"Hey ey ey ey"
Yeah I "borrow" my internet from the neighbors and it has been down
you got me on posts, ya got a few over on the Sabers site i see.
"Hold ya chin up...nuh nuh nuh...gone" -Marshawn Lynch-
haha. Yeah those game threads add up. And the way theyve been playing lately… a lot of complaining haha. Excited about this transition to the 3-4 D with the Bills though.
"Hey ey ey ey"
me too
just more holes, this draft will be huge
"Hold ya chin up...nuh nuh nuh...gone" -Marshawn Lynch-
Yep. But it feels almost like a fresh start. I can accept a bad team next year if it means we build this team the right way. Thru the draft.
"Hey ey ey ey"
by bflo on Feb 11, 2010 9:45 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
feel the same
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by billsoferie on Feb 11, 2010 10:14 PM EST up reply actions
i thought Mckelvin broke his fibula?
not an ankle injury
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I think you’re right. Pretty sure I just remembered him holding his ankle on the sideline during the Saints game. I’ll fix :)
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by Brian Galliford on Feb 11, 2010 1:35 PM EST up reply actions
Cary Harris
is a cornerback on the buffalo bills too. is he not?
Not that I’m pinning for him or saying hes particularly good…..
:)
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by Brian Galliford on Feb 11, 2010 2:34 PM EST up reply actions
blitz McGee
As I was reading that you think Florence will take the top receiver next year, I started imagining McGee blitzing from his corner position. His tackling abilities have always been his strong suit and if he could pass the coverage off to Jairus, it seems like it could be effective.
Am i the only one here
who wants McKelvin to start instead of Drayton Florence? Drayton did play very well last year but he’s been inconsistent in his career. McKelvin is explosive, athletic, and has the potential to be a great man cover corner. I really don’t want to stunt his growth for a 30 year old corner who is at best- a great nickle back. Even if Drayton is the better corner right now, everyone here is saying we’re rebuilding for the future. Doesn’t that imply starting youth with potential over guys who aren’t going to be here? Corners also age faster than most positions. McKelvin is going to be a stud and I love it when hes on the field playing corner. I’m going to hope Catavolos has seen enough of McKelvin to know his ceiling is higher than anything Drayton Florence has ever reached.
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by poz on Feb 11, 2010 2:57 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
Hes got to earn it IMO. If McKelvin wins the starting spot then thats great. But I would have to pencil Florence in right now.
"Hey ey ey ey"
by bflo on Feb 11, 2010 3:01 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
i think he will earn it though
McKelvin is a great man cover guy. Hes going to be great in a 3-4 where edge pressure gives him a chance to use his athleticism to make plays on the ball or beat his guy to a pass. He needs to be given a chance to show what he can do.
"you just have to know there's always going to be adversity. None of these games are going to be easy. Nothing will be given to us" - Paul Posluszny
Leo
McKelvin is a great man cover guy.
So why did he struggle so much when covering WR’s one on one? I know his athleticism is as good as everyone’s, but his coverage and recognition skills have left a lot to be desired. I’m hoping he’ll be healthy enough to have a full off-season working on his skills and working with the coaches on recognizing tendencies and reads.
~K
"As the governor of Louisiana once said, the only way Chris Kelsay can lose his job is if he got caught in bed with a dead girl or a live boy."
I think all young corners
show problems with play recognition and reads. Remember Leo is now only entering his third year. Hes had the same secondary coach so Im very hopeful his mind will catch up to the incredible skills of his body.
"you just have to know there's always going to be adversity. None of these games are going to be easy. Nothing will be given to us" - Paul Posluszny
yeah, he’s coming in on his third year, but he saw limited action year one and only three games in year two…and in those three games, he looked positively AWFUL.
by quantumuprising on Feb 12, 2010 8:16 AM EST up reply actions
I’ll give him the benefit of the doubt for now. Lets see what he can do in a nickle/rotational starter role.
by CanadianBillsFan on Feb 12, 2010 9:16 AM EST up reply actions
He'll play a lot regardless
I want him to actually earn the starting spot though. The kid has been pretty terrible out there, so until he proves otherwise, you can’t just put him on the field to put him on the field. If he can’t beat out Florence, I think we’ll being to understand what kind of player he’s going to remain….
~K
"As the governor of Louisiana once said, the only way Chris Kelsay can lose his job is if he got caught in bed with a dead girl or a live boy."
If he can’t beat out Florence, I think we’ll being to understand what kind of player he’s going to remain….
Florence had a great year, I doubt McKelvin wins the starting job outright based on his potential alone so we are on the same page there…but to say he is always going to remain where he is premature, IMO.
by NorCal BillsFan on Feb 11, 2010 4:10 PM EST up reply actions
By remain, I meant for next season
If he isn’t beating out Florence after a lengthy training camp battle, then he’s probably not going to be getting the starting nod at all during the season barring injury. I think Florence will continue to play well and it’ll be tough to knock him out of the starting lineup.
McGee might start to get worried though if Leo has a good summer. No matter what, McKelvin has to PROVE himself this summer and actually earn the spot. I hope McGee and Florence are penciled in as starters, and Leo has to beat them out. It’s a win-win all around.
~K
"As the governor of Louisiana once said, the only way Chris Kelsay can lose his job is if he got caught in bed with a dead girl or a live boy."
I see what you mean...
completely agree
by NorCal BillsFan on Feb 11, 2010 6:34 PM EST up reply actions
pretty good chance that McGee or Florence miss some time due to injury....Leo will get his chance to win the job during the season too.
If we end up with Vick, T.O., Richie I., and Porter….that is really pushing the dbag density limit for one team.
Yeah, IM sure he’ll play plenty regardless
by NorCal BillsFan on Feb 11, 2010 6:43 PM EST up reply actions
I think DJ
said it best below when he said this switch will be a boon to McKelvin. I agree with that statement 100%. I think he should beat out Florence but only if the coaching staff doesn’t have the bias that Florence should start because he played well last year.
"you just have to know there's always going to be adversity. None of these games are going to be easy. Nothing will be given to us" - Paul Posluszny
I actually think McGee would be the one to worry…Florence played better than I ever thought he was capable of last year. McGee was solid, unspectacular but solid.
by NorCal BillsFan on Feb 11, 2010 6:38 PM EST up reply actions
I’m right there with you Poz. Although if it was up to me we’d simply have a 3 man starting group. As in, who starts entirely depends on who matches up better against the opposing starters.
by CanadianBillsFan on Feb 11, 2010 8:15 PM EST up reply actions
Flo
Finally, someone is giving Drayton credit! I loved this guy last year! Rarely did I see him make a huge mistake and I saw him being very physical with receivers. I love how he plays! Thanks for giving him the notice he deserves
Couple thoughts on the CB's
I think Florence is our #1 corner due to what Brian’s already mentioned. Adding to that is the Florence has the ability to play press coverage well is man and zone. The Tampa 2 called for press coverage where the corner disrupted the WR’s route and then dropped into a zone. Press into man (bump-and-run) is something that Florence can do well.
McGee broke into his starting role as a man-off and man coverage corner, and had some bad games along the way. He really started to shine once he became a zone corner. However, he has had some good games playing man. His 2008 game vs. Randy Moss in NE stands out. He played Moss man most of the game and played well.
This move is the biggest boon for McKelvin, IMO. Zone is a thinking man’s coverage. Man coverage is much less complicated from a mental aspect. In man, the corner has to consider WR’s crossing each other off the LOS and pick plays, but that’s far easier than thinking through receiver’s running through a CB zone. McKelvin should be able to put his best trait, his athleticism, on display.
right, which is why I think McKelvin should start
This move is the biggest boon for McKelvin, IMO
I totally agree and we should see him emerge as a star in his third year when hes playing more man. Unfortunately, thats only if he gets a starting role.
"you just have to know there's always going to be adversity. None of these games are going to be easy. Nothing will be given to us" - Paul Posluszny
Hahahaha.....When you said DJ above, I thought you meant Dick Jauron....couldn't figure out wtf you were talking about :-)
If we end up with Vick, T.O., Richie I., and Porter….that is really pushing the dbag density limit for one team.
hahaha
Der Jaeger has officially stolen the DJ mantle from Dick Jauron.
"you just have to know there's always going to be adversity. None of these games are going to be easy. Nothing will be given to us" - Paul Posluszny
I'd say you're already off to a better start than DJ was
so I am supremely confident you’ve got him beat already!
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@The Huntsman
The Tampa 2 called for press coverage where the corner disrupted the WR’s route and then dropped into a zone. Press into man (bump-and-run) is something that Florence can do well.
Does anyone recall the CBs from last year actually pressing the WRs…I dont.
However, he has had some good games playing man. His 2008 game vs. Randy Moss in NE stands out. He played Moss man most of the game and played well.
I could be mistaken, but I believe that J. Greer was on Randy for almost the entire game.
This move is the biggest boon for McKelvin, IMO.
IMO, I agree with you.
by NorCal BillsFan on Feb 11, 2010 6:42 PM EST up reply actions
The corners pressed at times. Schematically, the Tampa 2 runs best when the corners are pressing all the time. We, obviously didn’t all the time. It’s a function of:
1. The ability of the corners to press.
2. The ability of the DL to get pressure quickly, mitigating the risk of pressing.
I’m pretty sure the 20-10 game had McGee on Moss.
If Parrish doesn't come back ...
Would Lankster have a shot at returning punts to relieve Freddie a bit?
I think we'll have a new punt returner brought in via the draft
If Roscoe is gone, TO is gone and maybe Reed as well, we not only need a new punt returner, but we need WR’s. We need WR’s anyhow, just the need for a guy that returns punts also increase. Lankster was only average in college, so I’d rather go after a later round WR that has also proven himself as a punt returner in college. There are a lot of undersized speedsters in this draft that have returned punts successfully in college….
~K
"As the governor of Louisiana once said, the only way Chris Kelsay can lose his job is if he got caught in bed with a dead girl or a live boy."
Did T. McGee return punts or kickoffs? He and McKelvin could handle, no?
"In wine there is wisdom, in beer there is strength, in water there is bacteria"
TMac returns kickoffs
McK can do both, but is actually better at punts… Personally, I think McK will be the starter this year over Flo, and so we certainly don’t want our best corners both also doing return duty….
As long as McK doesn't turn into a McC sized McB ...... I'm hungry for a Big Mac :-)
If we end up with Vick, T.O., Richie I., and Porter….that is really pushing the dbag density limit for one team.
McKelvin was a great punt returner, too. Fred Jackson didn’t do so bad either.
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