A mock offseason/draft, with a trade slant
I haven't really dove into the mock draft hysteria yet, but I think my waiting is finally over. It's the slowest part of the pre-draft off-season right now, with the Combine still over a week away. I thought I'd throw my hat into the ring with some thoughts, hoping to get more discussion going. I am also going to go a little trade heavy because I want Ron from NM to got his jollies for the week I want to really turn this roster over ASAP. I know it's highly unlikely that we'll see too many trades, or the ones that I propose, but I'd like to believe they are realistic and could happen. :) I also wanted to get one in before the Combine and before the free agency letdown occurs.
I think the Bills will be involved in a busy, but underwhelming, player movement in the coming months. Will we see big name additions? Nope. Will we see a lot of additions and subtractions? I think that's very likely. I think we're going to see a solid chunk of lower tier free agent signings, mostly to help the transition to the 3-4 defense. Nothing significant, but enough to help make the switch a little easier this season. There will be some short term fixes, which I'm fine with, as we build young depth.
I also want to acquire as many draft picks as possible, without going totally overboard. Chan Gailey is concerned about defensive depth already, so I think that's going to be one of the bigger priorities of the off-season. I think we'll see some trades to get more draft picks in order to help solve this problem. Dumping any veteran defender who doesn't fit has to be done.
Free Agent Additions:
Veteran ILB - Larry Foote is my first target. Having no idea how Doug Whaley feels about him, I'll just assume that their Pittsburgh connection is a good thing. Foote would be a nice experienced pickup. He'll be 30 when the season starts, so I'm guessing he can help us for 3-4 years as a starter or eventually quality depth. I also don't know how Poz will make the transition, though he should be okay, so this may be his only season as part of Buffalo's 3-4. If Foote doesn't happen, Matt Wilhelm or basically any veteran with starting experience as the SILB. Tim Dobbins or Kevin Burnett are young RFA's that'd I'd keep my eye on if they receive low tenders. I choose Foote.
Veteran OLB - I think we absolutely need to bring someone in with experience to push Maybin and let him ease into his new role. It's not going to be a top player, obviously, but somebody with experience who can take a good number of snaps and rush the passer would be a nice short term option. Tully Banta-Cain has been mentioned, but I think NE will bring him back. Derrick Burgess could be an option, even though he struggled for the Pats this year. He had a nice final month (3 sacks in the four games) and may not be a bad choice. Chike Okeafor or Marques Harris could be options too. If the Pats dump Adalius Thomas and he doesn't go to the Jets or back to Baltimore, he could be a guy worth looking at because I think he'll play with a chip on his shoulder. No matter who it is, we need to add an experienced player here. I don't think Joey Porter is an option. Maybe Chris Gocong in Philly could finally get the chance to play in a 3-4. I'll choose Burgess for now with Kawika Mitchell also playing some OLB for us.
Veteran 3-4 DE - I'd push hard for Dwan Edwards, a player who excelled in stopping the run for the Ravens. With Marcus Stroud, Kyle Williams and Spencer Johnson all likely to be squeezed into the position, we need a guy with successful experience, as well. Jarvis Green would be a nice addition, too. Heck, maybe Paul Spicer could be given one last shot. I'd love to add a young veteran looking for an increased role like Stephen Bowen in Dallas, but he'll likely be retained via Restricted free agency. Jason Hatcher is another Cowboy in that position. Edwards is my pick here.
Veteran WR - We've heard Chris Chambers mentioned before, but I'm expecting KC to try hard to bring him back. I wouldn't mind a Nate Burleson type player, but I doubt that'd happen. Kevin Walter would be a nice choice, and a reasonable option as Houston may move on after a disappointing season out of him. Kaisertown keeps bringing up Bobby Wade, which I think is probably someone the Bills will look at.
The Bills will probably have to add a veteran Nose Tackle, at least for depth purposes. Ian Scott and Bryan Robinson have been mentioned here before. Either of them wouldn't surprise me. Jason Ferguson is a long shot because I think he'll retire. Kendrick Clancy missed the season, but might be a good depth option. Old man Hollis Thomas could be an extremely short term option. A trade for a vet like Alan Branch, Isaac Sopoaga or Louis Leonard could happen, but I don't see it. I think we'll add a body here, though it won't be a significant addition.
I'm beginning to think the Bills will stick with Trent Edwards at QB (bleh) with the hopes of Gailey coaching him up or even Ryan Fitzpatrick again. I don't think Brian Brohm is a viable candidate, but could be down the line. I'm guessing a trade for a veteran isn't likely, meaning no Donovan McNabb, Michael Vick, Jason Campbell or Tyler Thigpen. Am I missing anyone there? If Chad Pennington has interest in coming to Buffalo, I'd definitely be down for that one. He'd be a nice stabilizing presence as the Bills look to build up their roster.
I'm all for the Bills adding a veteran LT if possible. If Chad Clifton doesn't stay in GB or New England lets Matt Light go, I'd be happy to see the Bills push for either of them. Signing one would give them more flexibility come draft day. I'm going to go ahead and assume the Bills do add a veteran capable of starting, just for fun here.
That's probably a little too much free agent action with Foote, Burgess, D. Edwards, a WR, a depth NT, maybe Pennington and a LT being added, but I really think the Bills will be busy with these types of free agents. None are long term options and none are going to lead the Bills to the playoffs, but helping them field a more competitive roster while allowing for the growth of young players behind them is something that I hope Nix, Whaley and Gailey consider.
Trades:
I touched on the possibility of trading for a veteran NT or giving up picks for RFA's, but it's probably not going to happen. Something that I can see happening is Buffalo looking to unload as many vets as possible for draft picks. I think there could be teams that come calling too. One thing that we haven't really discussed is the impact the CBA problems will have the final 8 teams of the playoffs. Those teams will be limited in the number of free agents they can sign based on the players they lose and the money involved. Here's a good read from Mike Lombardi. If a playoff team like Arizona, Indy or New Orleans wants to add veteran depth at DE, they may have to look at trading for players like Chris Kelsay instead of signing someone like Aaron Kampman for a good chunk of change. I agree with Lombardi that there could be more trades of veterans this season than usual. Hopefully, Buffalo jumps in the fray.
Chris Kelsay for a 6th round pick. Yeah, I know, that's crazy and unrealistic and something I would never recommend any team doing, but I could actually see it happening. Maybe Carolina will look to add a veteran to replace the departing Julius Peppers in a cheapish manner while Everette Brown comes around? Maybe Indy will want more of a run stuffer to team with Robert Mathis and Dwight Freeney? Maybe Perry Fewell will want to bring him to New York to help with some of the Giants run defense issues? I think Kelsay might have more value as a depth player to certain teams than he ever had as a starter in Buffalo. Plus, this is my dream scenario, getting rid of Kelsay and getting something in return. I had to do it.
Roscoe Parrish for a 7th round pick. Just sit back and let hit happen. No need to question this, I wanted more picks.
I can see Aaron Schobel being traded, but I think he'd rather retire or just play a final year here giving the 3-4 a shot. I don't think Houston is a viable landing place because of their DL depth. I understand why New Orleans would be a good fit for him and the Saints, but I struggle to believe they'll pay him his $6M+ salary to be a part-time player when they are already paying big bucks to Will Smith ($7M+ this season), Charles Grant ($4M) and to a lesser extent Bobby McCray ($2M). Now if Grant ends up released, it's another story. I don't really see too many other potential destinations. He's likely to remain or retire. I think he'll play one more season, maybe two if it's a surprise year for the Bills.
Depending on how the Bills plan to use Kyle Williams, he would be a very valuable trade chip. I think he'll get a shot at NT and DE though. He's a good enough player where he can jimmy his way into a productive season as a poor fit at those positions. If he is traded though, I'm okay with it as long as Buffalo can get a 3rd or better. He'll stick with my current roster for now though.
If I'm wrong and Edwards is completely done in Buffalo, maybe someone gives up a 7th. For some reason, the Rams blog seems to like him. You never know.
Everyone's favorite trade topic, Marshawn Lynch, may very well be on his way out. I really think San Diego would be a great fit for him and I wouldn't be surprised if they offered as high as a 3rd rounder. I just don't think it'll happen, and I'll keep Lynch around hoping he can become the RB he was drafted to be.
Donte Whitner could have a number of suitors, but I think he'll get one final chance here. Is he worth trading for a 4th or 5th rounder? Hmmmm....
Do John McCargo, Keith Ellison, Nic Harris or Ryan Fitzpatrick have any trade value? Probably not. If anybody wants to persuade me to add a 7th rounder for any of them, let me know!!!
Draft:
I'm going to go into the draft looking for more picks, and following kaiser's belief that the team doesn't have to address the offensive line early. My addition of a veteran LT will help with that.
I think there is a good chance that Sam Bradford, Jimmy Clausen, Russell Okung and Anthony Davis will all be gone by the time our pick comes up, along with Suh, McCoy, Berry and Haden. I do think that Rolando McClain and Dez Bryant will be available, and make the Bills pick very valuable to other teams. I think Denver and Miami would covet either player, and I think McClain would be a great fit for the Giants. I think McClain will be a very good NFL player, but part of me is concerned that #9 is too high for him, especially if he runs a 4.6 or so and doesn't wow in the other agility drills. Part of me thinks he is getting treated like the next Patrick Willis, but I don't think he's that good. For a team like Buffalo, I'm not sure he's a good fit, but for a team with much fewer holes like the Giants, he could be a major get. I'm going to go ahead and trade down with the Giants, getting the 15th pick, and their 3rd and 4th round picks.
1st (15) - Dan Williams NT Tennessee - He's a big, strong, very stout player with the ability to penetrate or anchor the 3-4 and command double teams. He was productive at UT and would be a great fit as our big fatty at NT. I think he's one of the top 10-12 players in the draft. Bryan Bulaga is another option, but I like Williams a wee bit more.
2nd - Brandon Spikes ILB Florida - He's likely to slide into round 2 and I'd love to see the Bills add him if possible. With Foote or Wilhelm or whoever as a shorter term fix, Spikes could either take the job outright making them quality depth, or spend a season in a rotation before taking over for the long term in a season or so.
3rd - Rodger Saffold OT Indiana - I think this is one of the more underrated prospects in the draft. Saffold is athletic, experienced, has good feet and the size necessary for LT. He had a very good career in the Big 10, and backed that up with a great East/West Shrine week. A year behind a guy like Light would really give this kid the chance to grow into the Bills future at LT.
3rd (from NYG) - Lamarr Houston DE Texas - Adding more beef to the front 7, Houston will be making the move out to DE from his defensive tackle position in college. He did play some end at Texas and will give the Bills a potential pass rusher from NT in passing situations. He has long arms and a good base. With guys like Stroud and Williams not being ideal fits at DE in the 3-4, adding a rookie in the early rounds makes a lot of sense.
4th - Lindsay Witten RLB Connecticut - The former DE will have to make the move to OLB in our 3-4, but he has the athleticism and pass rush ability to have an impact right away. He had 11.5 sacks this past season and provides good pass rushing value at this point. One downside to this pick....he's Donte Whitner's brother.
4th (from NYG) - Jonathan Crompton QB Tennessee - Nobody is really talking about him, and I really don't understand why. He finally put it all together this year under Lane Kiffin, and has all the tools to be a successful NFL QB. He has prototypical size, can make all the throws, is accurate (with room for improvement) and is getting better and better. Under Chan Gailey and George Cortez, I think this guy could really surprise and develop into a potential starter for us. In the 4th round, he's worth taking a shot on.
5th - Walter Thurmond CB Oregon - I know, can you believe it? A Cornerback? Jairus Byrd's former secondary-mate could have entered the draft last year and been selected somewhere in the first 3 rounds. Like Byrd, he's a ball hawk, but is coming off a knee injury that shortened his senior season. I think this is a low risk, high reward type pick, and a position that we may actually need to add some depth to. Remember, Ashton Youboty is a free agent. Drayton Florence is in the final year of his contract. Terrence McGee, despite the recent extension, looks to be on the downside of his career. Reggie Corner is not good. Ellis Lankster is not a guy to be counting on. Where is this position in 2011? Adding a talented player like Thurmond is a good move for the future, even if he isn't ready to play in 2010.
6th - Marcus Easley WR Connecticut - Easley has very good size at 6'2", 215 lbs, and is expected to run somewhere around a 4.4 at the combine. He's a very late bloomer, having walked on at UConn and making an impact only in his senior year, but he has all the attributes you look for in a WR. He has very good hands to go with prototypical size and speed. He needs a lot more work, but could really be a major find for whatever team drafts him. With so many questions surrounding James Hardy and Steve Johnson, it's worth a gamble here.
6th (from Philly) - Antonio Brown WR Central Michigan - Dan LeFevour's favorite target left school after a very productive junior season. He has very good speed and looks like a potential slot receiver in the NFL. He's also a top return man, providing the Bills with Roscoe Parrish's replacement at punt returner.
6th (Kelsay) - Nate Byham TE Pittsburgh - The Bills need to add depth to the position and provide Shawn Nelson a running mate that is an above average blocker. Byham has very good size and is one of the better blocking prospects in the draft this year.
7th (from Detroit) -Corey Peters DE Kentucky - The former college DT had a very productive and active senior season in the SEC. He'll make the transition outside and would provide youthful depth at the position.
7th - Travis Ivey NT Maryland - A huge kid (6'4", 340 lbs) that that will be given the opportunity to make the team as the backup NT. Developing depth along the front 7 continues to be a major sticking point for my off-season.
7th (Parrish) - LaMarcus Coker RB Hampton - Has great speed, good size, return ability and is very talented. He has enough ability to become a big play threat in the NFL. His off the field problems led to his dismissal from Tennessee, but he could be a great find late in the draft. I'll take my chances at this point.
As you can tell, building up the front 7 would be a priority under my leadership. I would also make rush LB and DE priority free agent positions, as well.
I know this type of off-season isn't likely to occur, but I'd really like to see the Bills add building blocks to their defense, while building depth along both lines. If they have a chance at one of the top QB's or OT's, I would hardly be opposed to adding them. No matter who they select, Buddy Nix and friends need to find long-term starters in this draft.
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So I just finished posting my draft and then saw yours posted.
I love the comments about getting the Roscoe pick! Love it. I also like how we both trade down with the Giants. Isn’t it funny how every year we try and trade down in all our mocks, only to see the Bills trade up? I agree that Williams would be a great pick, my second option if Bulaga isn’t there.
There is one thing I really love about your draft, the adding depth along the defensive front seven. I kind of sacraficed some picks to move up, twice actually. I tried grabbing guys who I think have a little more potential and sacraficing the great depth you have achieved. Overall I think we would all be happy with your steps in the right direction.
"I lost my mind three months ago when I woke up married to a pineapple, an ugly pineapple... I still love her though."
I think we should see what Chan Gailey can do with James Hardy and Johnson, maybe one of them can emerge as a starter under his tutelage.
Trading down is a scenario I really like every year, but especially this year, because we, as you stated, need depth at the lines. I’m not convinced that Dan Williams can be the guy we need.
What about trading up for the Bucs-pick? We could change firsts, give them K Williams, and receive a 4th or something in return. With that pick we take Davis and solidify our O-Line for years to come. Then finally our O-Line would not be a offseason need for us anymore. Yes, I read the article from kaisertown, but I still think that this would be a great idea. I’m a believer that it’s better to solve one problem completely, as to working a little bit one many problems.
"What in the hell have I gotten myself into?" - Bruce Smith HOF
We would be giving Hardy and Johnson a chance. Signing a Wade or Walter is a quick fix and forces Hardy/Johnson to earn playing time. Adding Easley and Brown adds depth and pushes those guys. Hopefully, someone would step forward.
You have to give up a whole lot more than Kyle Williams to get to #3. Why would they give up a McCoy or Berry simply to add Kyle Williams and a slightly lesser rookie?
~K
"As the governor of Louisiana once said, the only way Chris Kelsay can lose his job is if he got caught in bed with a dead girl or a live boy."
Wade would be my choice of WR to take in FA, he has been productive in limited roles, and we need that
Also as a vet’s vet, he could actually put Johnson and Hardy under his wing and really teach them some stuff.
Nix and Chan, the new Cheech and Chong of the Bills, hopefully they will be as successful in business as they were, and not so much the drug fueled comedy act....
Donte Whitner could have a number of suitors, but I think he’ll get one final chance here. Is he worth trading for a 4th or 5th rounder? Hmmmm….
I like this trade. It’s safe to assume that Byrd has locked up FS. Leaving George Wilson, Byron Scott and Donte Whitner. I think on obvious running downs you throw in the bigger Scott, and on passing downs you replace him with Wilson, who seems to have a nose for the ball (at least better than whitner). I think of all of them Whitner has the most trade value as well. A low to mid tier FA signing at FS or see how Harris develops this off season would shore up the depth here.
If you look at it this way, what would you rather have a high pick dud at a position where his absence isn’t a problem or drafting a guy that will be solid depth and a potential starter at a position that is lacking (LB, DL, O-line)?
Scott is a free agent.
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by MattRichWarren on Feb 16, 2010 12:14 PM EST up reply actions
WHAT!?!?!?!??!!
You didn’t draft a OT in the 1st round!?!!?!? You loser! This whole thing sucks!!!!!!!!!
Actually, I think you did a pretty god job here. I really love it when guys do some digging and come up with names that make sense. (I always dislike those mocks where they stop after the 4th round and just fill it in with BPA) You even found realistic free agent targets. Good job.
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indeed I am...
I should have put a poll up. The bold part would have been a perfect part of that.
~K
"As the governor of Louisiana once said, the only way Chris Kelsay can lose his job is if he got caught in bed with a dead girl or a live boy."
I fricking love Dan Williams. He’s the type of 3-4 NT that can really, really allow you to be flexible with gap assignments and makes getting pressure on opponents even easier. He can anchor and he can penetrate. As long as he’s in a good situation with good coaches and can keep himself motivated, I think he has an outstanding chance to quickly emerge as one of the more dominant 3-4 noses in the game. He’s not a one or two-down defender like Terrence Cody, either.
Needless to say, I would be happy with him at 9, let alone in a trade down. It might take 9 to get him.
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by Brian Galliford on Feb 16, 2010 10:55 AM EST reply actions
I'll be happy with him at 9
And when all is said and done, I expect we’d have to draft him there if we want him with Denver and Miami as potential destinations for him. I’ll say this, I’d much rather draft him at 9 than Rolando McClain and that’s not even a knock on McClain.
~K
"As the governor of Louisiana once said, the only way Chris Kelsay can lose his job is if he got caught in bed with a dead girl or a live boy."
Dan Williams’ last name is Williams, like……Pat Williams. Sooo,….yep.
Nice job on portraying a strong, fairly realistic start to our rebuilding franchise. If the Bills follow your model, fans will have no reason to complain about the direction of the team.
"You can put a baby in a crib with an apple and a rabbit. If it eats the rabbit and plays with the apple, I'll buy you a new car."
Dan Williams’ last name is Williams, like……Pat Williams. Sooo,….yep.
Also like Mike……….
No weekend spent pantsless is a wasted weekend.
I don’t see Williams getting past the Dolphins. I don’t know their situation at NT, but Fergy I think either stays a yr or retires, and they are going to NEED a replacement. And for where they are picking, it would be perfect for them.
I was born in Buffalo, and NO, it's not a suburb of New York City
Williams is on my list of guys to keep an eye on come draft day
I like what I see, and I agree that we need the coaches to keep and eye on him and keep him motivated to play hard, because when he is on, he is a freaking monster.
Nix and Chan, the new Cheech and Chong of the Bills, hopefully they will be as successful in business as they were, and not so much the drug fueled comedy act....
I’m going to go ahead and trade down with the Giants, getting the 15th pick, and their 3rd and 4th round picks.
I know the chart says this is reasonable, but teams have been trading less to move up recently. (The Browns were moving down 2 spots for 6th rounders when the chart said they should get 4th rounders last year, and the Pats moved down 3 spots for a 5th rounder when the chart said they should get a 4th)
The Bills would probably be good to get a 3rd out of moving down 6 spots.
Haha!
I also wanted to get one in before the Combine and before the free agency letdown occurs
Comments like this don’t help the campaign to make people think you aren,t Mr. Negative. :-)
a.k.a. Undee
Every year
people expect wholesale free agent movement around the league. It never happens. This year, it definitely isn’t going to happen with all the RFA’s. I’m not sure how that’s negative….
~K
"As the governor of Louisiana once said, the only way Chris Kelsay can lose his job is if he got caught in bed with a dead girl or a live boy."
I thought you would spin it like that.
How about “I also wanted to get one in before the Combine and before the realistically underwhelming free agency occurs” ?
a.k.a. Undee
Well it's not a spin
That’s what I meant by the statement. So poor selection of words if you must…But every year people let themselves get letdown by the lack of action around the league. That’s all I meant by it.
~K
"As the governor of Louisiana once said, the only way Chris Kelsay can lose his job is if he got caught in bed with a dead girl or a live boy."
You know I am on your side, right? In the first few months of my Rumbler days, I used to think, “boy, that Kurupt sure is negative!” I even commented that, to which you promptly replied, “I prefer to think about it as realistic.”
Two years later, after seeing some truly negative stuff here, and seeing how consistent and informed your view of the NFL has been, I don’t think of you as negative at all. Now it is funny to me when I see people initially put off by some of the realities you voice. And it has become somewhat of a well-known running joke, so I when I saw that sentence at the end of the first paragraph, I felt it was prime time for some lighthearted ribbing.
I guess we all have ‘personalities’ associated with our accounts.
a.k.a. Undee
Haha, ain't that the dang truth
The truth can be a tough pill to swallow or something…I always have hope, but I just am not a person to blindly believe in something. Just my nature, I suppose, but it’s just me trying to remain realistic to what’s going on.
Boy I can’t wait to see how the Bills screw up this off-season!!!
~K
"As the governor of Louisiana once said, the only way Chris Kelsay can lose his job is if he got caught in bed with a dead girl or a live boy."
I'll be there to list out the FA follies on day 1 with the overnight thread
Your welcome to suffer along for another year with me on that night K…
Nix and Chan, the new Cheech and Chong of the Bills, hopefully they will be as successful in business as they were, and not so much the drug fueled comedy act....
You know I'll be there
~K
"As the governor of Louisiana once said, the only way Chris Kelsay can lose his job is if he got caught in bed with a dead girl or a live boy."
I like this a lot
I do however think Williams will get traded. I am sure there will be a few teams looking at him, and I definitely think he would be a great fit for Seattle, and I wouldn’t be suprised if they traded their 3rd for him.
I think McCargo gets a 7th thrown his way from someone, I mean the million dollar man got a 7th to go to Detroit.
I was born in Buffalo, and NO, it's not a suburb of New York City
I like your draft. I am one of the believers that the O-line is not as bad as people think (when healthy). I believe Butler will be able to come back and either provide depth at RT or start at RT which would let Bell provide the depth. So therefore I’d be happy with Williams or McClain. I believe McClain and Poz can make it work in the middle as it is my opinion that good football players even slightly out of position can make it work with proper schemes.
I don’t have a clue what you see in Crompton. He seemed to be slow with his reads in college which is a huge concern. He was not productive for TN. I was at the Georgia Dome for the bowl game against VT and this kid is awful. Kiffen was so petrified to let him throw against Florida they ran almost every play.
Witten is by far and away my favorite pick of your draft. I would feel comfortable letting him compete with Ellis for an OLB starting spot.
I am not a fan of Foote unless he comes very cheap. I’d rather see them lock up a starting caliber LT even if that LT is an aging veteran and let a draft pick, Ellis or possibly Schobel (if he doesn’t retire) fight for the OLB spot opposite Maybin.
But ultimately, I have a hard time believing in this team without an upgrade at QB either by getting Bradford, Clausen or a FA or via trade. A good QB makes a average line look better just like a great line makes an average QB look better. We must make a substantial improvement to one of the two positions to have a functional offense.
Crompton
I think he’s just starting to scratch the surface. Although the upside might not exactly be that high, I think he can be coached up and may someday workout in the NFL. I would rather have Jevan Snead in round 3, but wanted to make this a bit different.
I would probably rather have Snead than Houston, who likely won’t be there anyhow. I can slide a 3-4 DE into Crompton’s spot, or something if I go Snead too. Would that make more sense?
I wouldn’t believe in this team either, but I think building the front 7 and depth on the OL, while adding potential skill players for the future is a step in the right direction. This isn’t going to be built in one offseason.
~K
"As the governor of Louisiana once said, the only way Chris Kelsay can lose his job is if he got caught in bed with a dead girl or a live boy."
Well, I am not a Snead fan either, but my regardless of particular dislike for Crompton or Snead, I am more opposed to drafting a QB btw rounds 2-5 as I believe the team needs to use the picks in a more effective manner. Based on your offseason analysis we would be keeping either all 3 QBs or adding a mid-draft pick (ex Compton or Snead)…I don’t see that as the best way to maximize value. Brohm is young and basically there is no reason to think a mid draft pick would be better than him…Brohm is our project . If you cut Edwards I wouldn’t want two projects…1 being Brohm and 2 being Crompton or Snead with Fitz. I think the only reason for the Bills to use a mid-level draft pick on a QB is because they know Brohm is not the guy. If that is the case then by all means grab Snead or Lefluer or Crompton and cut Brohm.
I completely agree that we should build the front 7 and O-line. This is why I would use that 3rd or 4th round pick on another depth player as oppose to QB.
If the Bills don’t get Bradford or Clausen (2 guys I am very high on), then I hope they don’t go after a QB until round 5 or even wait and grab 2 undrafted free agents.
QB
What’s the difference between a 6th round QB and a 4th rounder? Both would be projects….
You have to remember, we have a new regime in place now, with a new coaching staff. None of the 3 current QB’s should be reasons we don’t draft a QB, project or not. What if this staff likes Snead or Crompton or Brown or whoever? Why shouldn’t they draft them in the middle rounds? I’d rather take a shot on a guy than completely ignore the position simply because we already have a project in Brian Brohm. I don’t think Brohm will amount to anything, so why is adding a QB that won’t be able to start right away in the draft be such a bad idea? I’m still addressing depth and the front 7 with the majority of my other picks.
~K
"As the governor of Louisiana once said, the only way Chris Kelsay can lose his job is if he got caught in bed with a dead girl or a live boy."
If the new regime like a project QB, then I believe it should be at the expense of Brohm. I am ok with using a mid-round draft pick if they do not have any faith in Brohm. However, unless the Front office ranks a guy like Snead, Crompton whoever higher than Brohm then I don’t see any reason to take them.
I personally, don’t like Crompton and I don’t like Snead. My opininion is that I would rather build more depth at the front 7, o-line or even take a WR in the 4th. I feel there is good LB, DL & WR talent in round 4. On the current roster I only see 3 Lb’s who fit a 3-4 (Poz, Mitchell, Maybin) and we only have 3 WR’s (Evans, Hardy, Johnson). If they like Crompton, Snead whoever they should then move up to the late 2nd to get them because it would not cost that much to move up to the late 2nd round to secure a QB you like.
The Bills are in a spot where they are completely re-inventing their D, and therefore I and more concerned with defensive front 7 depth than a 3rd string project QB when I feel we have a project QB already on the roster in Brohm.
Im on board with this draft K
Willams and Spikes would fit nice into a Bills uniform. With the late WR’s and RB added is a bonus too. We dont know what we have in anyone besides Lee, so adding WR’s is a must. I like the blocking TE from Pitt too. He could help along those lines. Overall pretty damn good draft if it came true.
And I agree with you trading certain players even if its for a 5th, 6th, or 7th rounder. We need so much depth to re-build this O-line and 3-4, let alone starters…
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Also, I really like your trades (1st round trade down, Kelsay, Parrish), and player positioning (Mitchell playing OLB, Stoud and Spencer Johnson playing DE, and realistically keeping the QBs). Although, I must ask, even with teams more likely to trade for Kelsay’s skills this offseason, are they willing to pay Kelsay’s salary for backup/depth purposes?
For a rebuild year, I also thought of trading Lynch, but I serious doubt if the Bills could have netted a 3rd rounder for him. For a rebuilding team, the Bills need to buy low and sell high. I think it is better to keep Lynch for 1 more year before trading him when he has greater value. But if there are any team willing to give the Bills a 3rd rounder or better, then I’ll pull the trigger right away.
Agree totally about McClain. I don’t understand what’s it with all the love this blog has for him. I mean, he is a good football player, but he’s just not Patrick Willis.
If Dan Williams is not there at #15, I’d actually trade down again to 6 spots or more down to net myself another 3rd rounder. I’d then use the late 1st rounder on Iupati. We are not sure when Wood can come back and Butler is always injured. In the long run, I think the Bills should move Wood back to his original Center position with Hang as backup, and Butler at RG and Iupati at RT. IMHO, I think Iupati is dynamite, the Lions coaching staff tried him on both LT and RT during Senior Bowl practices. I think he is going to be an immediate contributor.
Assuming I traded down to get Iupati, now I’d have 3 3rd rounders, and I’d package 1 of them with the extra 4th from the Giants to trade backup to the 2nd round for Cody. Let me be the first to say that I think Terrence Cody has the fat making of Mike Williams, but after missing out on Dan Williams the Bills need to find a NT badly, and I think a 2nd rounder is worth a gamble. I think it is highly likely Cody will fall into the 2nd round (if he is not already there by now). Kyle Williams (I don’t think the Bills will trade him) can then be my 3rd down NT; I think his quickness is capable of being good at that.
When you supposedly already have Dwan Edwards, Stroud, Williams, and Johnson to rotate at your DE position, I just don’t see the need to draft another DE in the 3rd round. Instead I’d use your Lamar Houston pick on Dan LeFevour (I see his stock rising, especially after the Combine, so I don’t think he’ll be there in the 4th round – where he’s originally projected). Sorry, I don’t get Crompton either. If the Bills were to get a QB project pick, I see LeFevour having much better upside.
Sorry, for being so long. I actually wanted to do my own post, but since K has taken most of the words out of my mouth, I decided to just tag on to this instead.
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Fair points
Kelsay will make roughly $3.7M this year. A team looking to nail down their run defense might be willing to take that on. They could always trade for him, restructure and add a few years to the deal.
I don’t know about Iupati. I like his potential at Guard, but I’m not really convinced he’ll be an NFL tackle, and definitely not a LT. I wouldn’t draft another Guard or a RT in round 1. I don’t think that’s good value.
As for DE….with Stroud not a great fit and on his last legs, and Williams not being a good fit, we need to build that position up with better fits. Spencer Johnson is a better fit, but is nothing more than depth. Houston would be a starter for us within a year or so, IMO.
Just like you don’t see anything in Crompton, which I may agree with more than picking him indicates, I don’t see a whole lot in LeFevour either. If we want a true project pick, Jarrett Brown might be my favorite.
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I think Bell
can be the LT of the future. The Bills just need to add a vet LT to push him and add depth in the position.
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Very nice K....well rounded and fills a lot of holes..rec'd
I might be tempted to take an OT/G like Ducasse in the second and ILB like Johnson in the 3rd. Either way, I would be very happy with this draft come April.
If we end up with Vick, T.O., Richie I., and Porter….that is really pushing the dbag density limit for one team.
Well, you don't say
I’m shocked you’d pick those two guys!
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I know....smart a$$ :-)
but don’t you think Ducasse > Saffold ….. and Johnson (fully recovered) > Spikes?
If we end up with Vick, T.O., Richie I., and Porter….that is really pushing the dbag density limit for one team.
johnson > spikes
no def not. spikes is a leader and a heady player. i think spikes in the second would be a great pick.
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by silverstreak3k on Feb 16, 2010 4:31 PM EST up reply actions
Not saying Spikes is a bad pick, but I think Johnson is a heavier hitter
Both would be good picks.
If we end up with Vick, T.O., Richie I., and Porter….that is really pushing the dbag density limit for one team.
plus how do you pass on a guy
that will play LB with a last name like spikes?! he was meant to be a LBer
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by silverstreak3k on Feb 16, 2010 10:15 PM EST up reply actions
No I don't think that at all
I would take Spikes over Johnson every single time.
I also really like Saffold. He was a 4 year starter in the Big 10 at LT and performed quite well. He allowed just one sack this year. Ducasse struggled during the Senior Bowl week and is a much more raw prospect. Although his ceiling is probably a little higher, I like Saffold’s consistency, experience and success in addition to his physical skills.
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"As the governor of Louisiana once said, the only way Chris Kelsay can lose his job is if he got caught in bed with a dead girl or a live boy."
fair enough
If we end up with Vick, T.O., Richie I., and Porter….that is really pushing the dbag density limit for one team.
Re:
Free Agents: Personally, I like the Kevin Walter idea as a target. I think a starting caliber WR is a given in free agency and shouldn’t be all that difficult to find. Behind Evans amd and a player like Walter, you hope that younger players like Hardy and Johnson can start to establish themselves with more playing time…I also like the suggestions of Dwan Edwards and Larry Foote for veteran depth. Buffalo usually doesn’t fill out their depth chart with veteran free agents, but 2-3 on the defensive side of the ball this year are probably a good idea with the scheme change…I’ll pass on Matt Light or Chad Clifton. I’d rather let a hopefully more seasoned Demetrius Bell the first crack at battling a high draft pick at LT (and hopefully, the rookie wins).
Trades: Personally, despite a terrible year, I think Roscoe Parrish is worth more as a backup WR and punt returner than he is as yet another late round draft pick. I’d also keep Whitner (even in a reduced role) over trading him for a 4th rounder. I know a lot of the draftniks out there are always hoping that Buffalo can trade players for picks (and God knows, the team, itself resorts to this tactic more than anyone else in the NFL), but I’d prefer they land more picks by trading down when possible like in the proposed trade with the Giants above. I have no problem trading down if you really feel a need to add more picks (and Buffalo’s switch to the 3-4 warrants this urge), but continually spinning veterans for more and more picks has gotten Buffalo nowhere this last decade. That being said, I don’t see much of a role for Kyle Williams and Chris Kelsay in the new defense and so I’d try to trade them (and your projection of a 6th rounder for Kelsay and a 3rd rounder for Williams are just about what I would hope to net). Even if Buffalo mixes in some 4-3 fronts initially, ultimately Edwards wants to run a 3-4 and Williams and Kelsay’s value are higher now than they will be after 2010.
Draft: If Buffalo does nothing more than add Crompton to the mix at the QB position this offseason, they get a big fat F for their entire overhaul attempt, regardless of what else they do. They simply do not have a QB who can lead an NFL team to the playoffs on their roster and they need to start developing one who can ASAP. A late 4th round pick is too far on the back burner for such a gaping hole. If Buffalo had 4 picks in the first 3 rounds like above, I’d be looking to land a QB, LT, NT, and DE in some order based on what’s available when Buffalo’s on the clock. The BPA camp is outdated in my opinion based on the lack of impact players that are available in free agency these days. BPA is a detriment until the later rounds when you’re grasping at straws in trying to find useful players. The first 3 rounds should be used to for immediate needs and they need to be players who are ready to step as rookies (with the exception of QBs). If Williams, Saffold, and Houston fit that description, the above draft works for me other than the QB neglect.
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I think Roscoe Parrish is worth more as a backup WR and punt returner than he is as yet another late round draft pick
But for how much longer? Buffalo needs to take a long term approach and Roscoe turns 28 over the summer. Most returners start dropping off by the time they hit 30 and Roscoe might already be at that point. And he probably provides less at WR than some FA that you could sign for less than he was going to make anyways.
I half agree with you about the QBs. It all depends on how Buffalo would handle the 2011 draft and offseason. If they found a way to get a QB in the first round of the 2011 draft, then I’m completely fine with them ignoring the position this offseason. I agree that they’ve got to find a QB ASAP, but they’ve also got to find the right guy and if they think the right guy isn’t in this draft, then they should wait.
The BPA camp is outdated in my opinion based on the lack of impact players that are available in free agency these days
I would agree with that if next year had any significance for this team. What Buffalo needs is to string a few good offseasons together. Whether they fill needs 1, 2 and 3 this year and needs 4, 5 and 6 next year, or whether it’s needs 2, 4 and 5 this year and 1, 3 and 6 next year, it all works out the same. Buffalo doesn’t have enough talent to take a player at a need position when better players are available. They need to make the moves that put a playoff team on the field in 2012 and not the moves that are the best for next season.
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Quick thoughts
If Parrish makes just a few plays over the course of the next two years that will be more than most 7th rounders will get you. For a team that has only one other wide receiver under contract who has ever received any sort of playing time in the NFL, Parrish the player is more valuable than Parrish the 7th round draft pick fetcher.
With the QBs, projecting college QBs in 2011 will be no easier than projecting college QBs in 2010. Buffalo needs to identify one that they think could be the solution now and start assessing. They can always draft ANOTHER in 2011 if need be, but they can’t just throw away a full season that they could use to develop a legitimate starting because none of the candidates in the draft are definite answers. They won’t be definite answers in 2011 either.
I agree with you about filing needs over the course of several years and obviously don’t believe Buffalo can fill all their holes in one offseason, but certain positions are more important for rebuilding a team then others and they need to be filled with more urgency or other parts that may have worked under the right circumstances will end up failing. For example, Buffalo’s needs at QB, the offensive and defensive lines are more important than anotehr hole at a lesser position like strong safety. Even if you have Donte Whitner graded as the BPA, when you’re staring at holes at premium positions, to me, DBs, WRs, and RBs are luxury items. QB and the Lines first; this won’t make Buffalo a playoff contender in 2010, but they need to get these issues solved before they can start putting the finihing touches on the roster for a run in 2012 or so.
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Good thoughts
Parrish: That makes a lot of sense, but who’s to say Parrish is going to give us any plays? He didn’t give us anything this past year and there’s no guarantee he’ll do anything in the future. If the new regime doesn’t feel he’ll help the team all that much, they might as well get what they can for him. I don’t think Parrish as a WR should have any impact on whether he is kept, or worth keeping. His return ability is the only reason to keep him around, so that’s what should be evaluated.
QB: We all want them to identify and acquire their QB ASAP, but it’s just not going to be easy. What if they don’t think there is one guy, or a guy that is attainable, this year?? This has me confused:
but they can’t just throw away a full season that they could use to develop a legitimate starting because none of the candidates in the draft are definite answers.
If they don’t feel any of the candidates in the draft are definite answers, why would they be throwing away an entire season of development by not bringing in a rookie? Why bring in someone that they don’t believe in just to have someone to develop? Is that what you were saying?
~K
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Parrish makes just a few plays over the course of the next two years that will be more than most 7th rounders will get you
Probably, but I don’t see how that helps the Bills. Buffalo needs to focus on building a team for the future and not worry about who might make a play or two next year. For me, the question is what is more likely to be a part of a Bills playoff team: Roscoe Parrish or somebody they draft in the 7th round this year. I’ll take the 7th rounder. The depth at WR that Roscoe provides is pretty meaningless to me. The money they would save by trading him would probably be enough to go out and sign some random receiver like Arnaz Battle, Mark Bradley or Mike Furrey who might be better receivers than Roscoe is anyways.
A typical draft produces 2-3 quality starters at the QB position and this is a weak QB draft. What if Buffalo can’t find one of those guys this year? I’m not suggesting they ignore QB, but what happens if Bradford and Clausen are gone in the top 5 and the only guy or two that they like after that go much earlier than they expect? Buffalo can’t draft a QB just to draft a QB. The odds of anybody after the first round succeeding are slim.
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I like your article a lot. But I dislike the two WRs. Let’s draft other need positions in the 6th. Two receivers will just ride the pine. And we already have two of them.
Hardy/Johnson.
These guys need to play and prove themselves or get cut.
I also would hope that we get more for Whitner than a 5th rounder.
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by SERGEANT MAJOR THOR on Feb 16, 2010 7:00 PM EST reply actions
Why draft positions of need at that point?
Why not just build depth?
It’s not like we don’t need WR’s, either. Who do we have right now? Lee Evans, James Hardy, Steve Johnson and Roscoe Parrish. With Parrish’s trade in my scenario and the signing of a Kevin Walter or Bobby Wade, we still need to add depth to those four. I really like Easley’s upside and he would be a great value pick at that point, and Antonio Brown gives the Bills a productive slot option with speed and return ability. I think that pick would fill the punt return need, right?
Also, I didn’t trade Whitner and would also want more than a 5th, but if offered a 4th, it would be kind of tempting to pull the trigger. I’d think he could pull in a 3rd rounder, but who knows what the market would be.
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"As the governor of Louisiana once said, the only way Chris Kelsay can lose his job is if he got caught in bed with a dead girl or a live boy."
Okay, I understand your perspective fully now.............
………. If Reed and Roscoe get cut, then Hardy and Johnson may actually get to play, so we can see if they are pro football players. Kevin Walter would be a great addition.
Then, one or two or the 6th rounders is a good idea.
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by SERGEANT MAJOR THOR on Feb 16, 2010 9:09 PM EST up reply actions
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by MattRichWarren on Feb 17, 2010 11:33 AM EST up reply actions
I like it
I like the Safford pick. Smart. He’s exactly the type of guy Kaiser was talking about rebuilding with yesterday.
The trade down with the Giants is something that I’ve like for a couple weeks now. Not a crazy trade, just something that makes sense for both teams.
Thank You
Everyone is talking about taking a LT in round 1 or nothing at all. The only other OT prospects I’ve seen brought up are Vladimir Ducasse and Jared Veldheer, and I’m not even convinced they are actually NFL tackles. Jason Fox has gotten a few mentions too, but he seems like a RT to me. Saffold is a guy I really like and someone I think will be a starting LT in the NFL in a relatively soon period of time. I think he’s every bit as good as Trent Williams or Charles Brown, but would come much cheaper. I hope we have a chance at him in the 3rd round. I’d be afraid some team like Indy or Green Bay would take him towards the end of round 2. In fact, if the Bills took him in round 2, I wouldn’t be opposed.
~K
"As the governor of Louisiana once said, the only way Chris Kelsay can lose his job is if he got caught in bed with a dead girl or a live boy."
Saffold reminds me of someone that you like
Matt Light. Both are tough Big Ten OT’s with good feet.
I’ll take a Saffold-Levitre-Wood combo for the next 5-7 years. It’s a lot like the Light-Mankins-Koppen combo, potentially.
I would also allow us to take Dan Williams in the first round.
I’m on board.
Yes to Saffold
I will not be surprised at all if Saffold is the OT we take in the draft this year, especially because his college coach, Bobby Johnson, is now our assistant o-line coach. Saffold needs to put on a little more beef, but he has the frame to do it easily. The best part is that he is very smart, plays with toughness, and is quite versatile (can play both OG and OT).
In general I like Kurupt’s plan a lot, especially in regard to Parrish.
especially because his college coach, Bobby Johnson, is now our assistant o-line coach
Good call on that.
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Good point
One that I did not even realize. Thanks for pointing that out.
~K
"As the governor of Louisiana once said, the only way Chris Kelsay can lose his job is if he got caught in bed with a dead girl or a live boy."
I was just reading on Fanhouse about free agent LBs this year, they don’t expect Merriman back in San Diego, which I don’t see how they could let him walk.
But if he does hit Free Agency, or is maybe available for little compensation, I could see Nix going after him as he probably scouted him in college and liked what he saw
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by TheAfghanTwilight on Feb 16, 2010 10:28 PM EST reply actions
Good job K. I’ve never been a fan of including trades in the first round of mocks, but the Giants trade really does make sense. It seems to be the fashionable thing to do too. What I like about the trade down are the options that would still be there at 15. If Williams is gone, than maybe Bulaga is still there. Or maybe Dez Bryant would slide and Buffalo could get good value that way. And if the worst case scenario at 15 is Bruce Campbell or a pass rusher like JPP, Graham or even Kindle, then I’d live.
I think Spikes is, at best, only 50/50 to be available when the Bills pick in the 2nd round. Otherwise, it’s a fantastic pick. He’d be an instant starter a probably an instant impact guy.
I really like the Saffold pick. Even if you can’t add a FA there, a Saffold/Bell competition could provide the solution at LT without using a high pick and if not, then there’s always next offseason. If Buffalo isn’t putting a rookie QB under center this year, the OL is more of a long term priority than something that needs to be fixed right away.
Is Houston going to be able to get after the QB if he’s asked to play two gaps? If Buffalo could find a good run stuffer to play the other DE spot, then Houston could be let loose a little and it would be a good pick. I do love the idea of having a good pass rusher at one of the DE spots. Pairing him with Dwan Edwards would be perfect.
I’m really not a Witten fan. Not a bad pick in the 4th, but he’s pretty far down the list of 3-4 rushers I’d want.
Crompton is OK there. I think you could find a QB like him later than that. I’m expecting QBs to drop a little in a deep draft like this one. He’s not a bad pick there, I’m just not particularly fond of the value.
Thurmond would be a great pick there. I think Bills fans are underestimating the impact that a scheme change will have on the DBs. Buffalo has been a zone D for so long that if they move towards a more balanced zone/man D, that some guys could really struggle. The 3-4 in general asks more of their DBs in coverage too with two of the LBs being pass rushers and not coverage specialists and the other two being bigger than your average 4-3 LB.
I love the WR picks. I like picking a guy like Easley late who has had to work hard to become a draftable player. I’d guess that he played special teams at UCONN and would do well there as a pro. And Brown’s return abilities would mean that you’re adding two WRs with potential at the position who could contribute in other ways as rookies. That’s a good strategy for a team that’s overhauling the roster.
I like Byham, but I’d rather go the vet route and get somebody more reliable for that blocking TE role. I’d maybe go with one of those defensive lineman or an interior offensive lineman instead.
Ivey, Peters and especially Coker all seem like great 7th round picks.
Onto FA, how much of that do you think Buffalo could actually get done? About how many positions do you think they could realistically address? I’m sure the trades make FA additions a lot more likely. You list 7 (ILB, OLB, DE, NT, QB, WR and LT). You thinking 5 or 6 guys depending on LT and QB?
The reasons I like Bobby Wade are: He’s a natural slot receiver which is something Buffalo doesn’t have on the roster and he’d be a solid stop gap as a punt returner. I also like that Hardy or Johnson would have a real opportunity to win a starting spot, and even if they didn’t, Wade would still move to the slot in multiple WR sets leaving the outside for one of the young guys.
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by kaisertown on Feb 16, 2010 10:28 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
Thanks for the detailed response.....
You mention Kindle or Graham as potential picks in the middle of round 1 should we trade down….but I don’t think either would be good value. Unless they are far and away the highest ranked players on the board, why would the Bills add a college DE to convert to OLB for a second year in a row in round 1? We’ve already got Maybin trying to make the transition….should we do it again?
I don’t know how well Houston would rush from DE in our system, but I think he’d be more than adequate. He was extremely active at Texas, with 8 sacks this year and 22 TFL’s. He’s quick enough off the ball and seems like a great candidate to be a complete 3-4 DE in the NFL. He was a monster in the BCS title game, looking plenty active and able to rush in the pros.
I know Witten wouldn’t be at the top of anyone’s RLB list, but at that point, I liked the value and upside. Besides a Kindle or Graham in the first round, which I don’t think provide great value for this team, who do you like in the 2nd-4th round range? I’m not terribly high on Jerry Hughes, but am starting to like Eric Norwood more and more. Ricky Sapp doesn’t do much for me. I don’t believe JPP should be a RLB in the NFL. Who else?
You’re right, Crompton will likely go later. In fact, Thurmond might go higher if he proves to be healthy. A new iteration of this mock would have them switched for sure. As for your DB comments, I totally agree. That’s in addition to my thinking that depth at CB isn’t as great as some people tend to believe, especially come 2011. If I can grab a player of Thurmond’s caliber in round 4 or 5, I’m all over that. Good point about the more man coverage being involved in the 3-4. Luckily, I think McGee, Florence and Leo aren’t going to be limited by having to play more man, and actually should have a chance to perform better as I think they’re all better man guys. Reggie Corner’s value is even less to me than it was before.
I’d be so, so, so happy if the Bills could add both Easley and Brown. I just love their skill sets and what they could bring our offense and special teams. Both will probably end up going a little earlier, especially if they run well in Indy. I love their upside.
Now that Fine is gone, I’m guessing a vet TE is going to be one thing we add in FA. I should have included interior line depth in my mock, but didn’t like the value anywhere. I don’t mind taking Byham out, sorry Afghan.
In the 7th, I’m looking for depth and upside, which I think all 3 of those guys have plenty of, especially Coker and Ivey. I liked Peters college production and size, as well.
In FA, I really think 5-7 additions is attainable and likely. Brian even said he thinks 8 additions, I think. None of these guys are going to be big name additions and none are really going to be highly sought after outside of maybe a Dwan Edwards, IMO. We need to add some experienced depth as we transition to the 3-4, and cheaper veterans is a good way to build the depth this year. Will we sign that many? Maybe not, but I think it has a great shot of happening. I don’t really think 5 or 6 guys of this caliber is that big of a deal either. We’ve seen it before. What do you think should and will happen?
Fair points on Wade, makes a lot of sense.
~K
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I figured Graham and Kindle would be worst case scenarios if Buffalo traded down to 15. What if Clausen, Bradford, Suh, McCoy, Berry, Haden, Okung and Morgan are gone when Buffalo goes on the clock at nine. They trade down and the Giants grab McClain. But then Bulaga, Davis, Williams, Bryant and JPP get drafted. Buffalo gets stuck with somebody like Cody, Campbell, Graham or Kindle. So, even in the worst trade down scenario, I wouldn’t blame the Bills. If they ended up with somebody like Graham there, I wouldn’t be too happy, but I wouldn’t be pissed off either.
My concern over Houston is entirely about asking him to play two gaps. In the wrong scheme, would he still get after the QB? I think he would, but he’d need a run stuffer like Dwan Edwards or, say, former Pro Bowler, Marcus Stroud, playing the other DE spot. I love adding a pass rusher and I love Houston, but Buffalo would need to be careful fitting him into the defense.
It’s not that Witten is a bad pick, I’d just rather go elsewhere. I think guys like Cunningham, Worilds and even Misi are better 3-4 OLB prospects. I’ve never been impressed by Witten, but I suppose we can’t agree on everything.
On FA, I’d guess they sign 5 or 6 guys depending on whether or not they sign a QB. I’m sure they’ll add a few even crappier FAs too. I guess it depends on who they sign. If they could somehow pull of a QB like Pennington or Vick (if he’s released), a LT like Clifton and a DE like Edwards, then they’re probably pretty much out of money. If they don’t sign any “names”, they could easily add 8 decent players who make the final roster.
Wade would essentially be Josh Reed 2.0, except he could return punts instead of catching them and he’d be fresh blood. He’s a bit more versatile as a receiver too and wouldn’t be limited to running routes within 10 yards of the LOS.
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Houston
Well if I’m adding Edwards and keeping Stroud around, I think Houston would be a perfect fit opposite that duo. We wouldn’t currently have anyone of Houston’s abilities on the roster now, and there aren’t exactly a lot of those types available in FA either. I think the run stuffing DE’s are much easier to find than the combo types. Maybe not.
~K
"As the governor of Louisiana once said, the only way Chris Kelsay can lose his job is if he got caught in bed with a dead girl or a live boy."
I think Houston
is such a good pick, I think he is exactly the type of player who could come in here, be in a rotation for a year or so and then take over as the starter as one of our DE’s.
Really like this pick
by louiethegent on Feb 17, 2010 10:27 AM EST up reply actions
Generally in favor of this look, I have to say. Though a lot of me is still hoping for the big-splash draft and signings… and I really feel like I need a winning season after all these years. (I can probably hold myself off from the playoff urge, but is a bare minimum of 8-7-1 too much to ask? Thing is, with your setup, it’s probably not — this crew could possibly pull a 9-7 season out of its metaphorical butt with a little luck and a lot of work in the preseason. I still see either Miami or the Jets, possibly both, pulling ahead of them for the wild card slots this year, without a LOT of luck though.)
First two
- If the Bills got Brandon Spikes and Williams alone, it would make for a very good draft!

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