Man I would really not like this. On many levels.

pass pass pass, passss. oh yeah, i’d pass on this one. maybe if the pick was on their side of the deal. even still… pass

Just posted a link to this myself. :-P Only I went to Reid’s website. He also says his sources say it won’t happen.

Hey Bri,

Add a poll……..

No thanks unless it’s just straight up for Whitner. Or Whitner and a future pick.

I think Campbell has pretty much reached his ceiling. He’s an ok NFL QB, but I don’t think he’s anything you can win with.

Now if the Redskins are actually interested in Whitner, a trade of him for a mid round pick could actually happen.

Or maybe Whitner for Orakpo :)
Or Whitner for Mike Williams and Derrick Dockery :(

Nope. Campbell, Edwards, Fitzpatrick, and Brohm? I’m falling asleep just looking at that list. Just give me Hamden instead.

too much… only whitner, no pick

If you consider Campbell a upgrade or not.

I think he has upside still. He has never had any continuity in his career. 3 different OC’s in Aurburn, 3 different OC’s in Washington. He has a big arm, is mobile, and has played well at times in the pros behind a suspect O-line. He is also tough. The last two years he was forced to try to work in a West-Coast offense. The is a perfect example of a square peg round hole. I think he could be a solid starter in a heavy run-based, play-action type offense.

I’ve been living in DC for 8 years now, and I’ve watched my fair share of J. Cam on Redskins TV. Trust me, one thing that has gotten me through the last 10 years of Bills futility is having a good laugh at the Redskins every chance I can get.

I would take Jason Campbell tomorrow, in a heartbeat, 100 times out of 100. His stats do not begin to reflect the type of player he is. Anything things he is Trent Edwards+ hasn’t seen enough of Campbell’s play. Unlike Edwards who completely folded behind a terrible line with underachieving wide recievers, Campbell has been able to squeak quite a bit out behind an equally bad line with probably even worse wide recievers.

He stays healthy. He gets right back up and throws again. He doesn’t really make a lot of mistakes. He’s had 10,000 OCs in three years and frankly has made the most of it.

He is a head, if not head and shoulders, better than anyone else on the roster and it seems like a both safer and cheaper alternative to either a.) signing Mike Vick or b.) drafting a QB this year.

Whitner on the other hand is a mediocre saftey that could be replaced tomorrow by about 45 guys.

Plus if the Skins are rid of Campbell then you know they are taking a QB in the first round, which means one more OT to slip down to 9.

This really would be a no brainer as far as I’m concerned.

Campbell 2009 Bills Total 2009
Cmp 327 256
Att 507 441
Cmp% 64.5 58
Yds 3618 2789
TD 20 17
Int 15 19
Y/A 7.1 6.3
Rate 86.4 71.7

Easy yes for me. And he played in 16 games last year.

I like Campbell more than:

Edwards
Fitzpatrick
Vick
Pennington

…I don’t really like Campbell overall though. If Buffalo was adding him to be a stopgap QB for 2010 while they groom a real answer that would be one thing, but I doubt Wilson would put this kind of money into a stopgap. Jason Campbell? Scary.

I just rec’d every comment that didn’t want Campbell – that’s how I feel about him as a QB in Buffalo

I’d rather just have their 3rd rounder… but I’m curious if Whitner can elevate his game in the new scheme… if we trade him we’ll never know

Just one question, if Campbell so good why is washington talking about trading him?

You guys are cheating on us?

They would owe us a draft pic. Campbell is a back up at best, and I want no part of him as our QB

Who would we get rid of ?

The Bills would be morons to do this before the draft, because who’s to say Bradford or whomever they have rated as the top Qb isn’t going to fall to them at 9. Why not wait till after the draft then evaluate your roster?
For the record I think we should get a left tackle this year and wait until next year to get our Qb of the future.

If it’s a 4th or lower, sign me up, that addresses the QB position, leaving us to rebuild our line and defense.

Campbell improved mightly last season despite playing behind the one line that was worse than ours, having no running backs (Rock Cartwright, ew!), and having absolutely no receivers. Plus his coach was Jim Zorn! Campbell had a worse situation than the Bills!

Lets not underestimate the importance of having a guy behind center in Buffalo who has survived 16 games behind a porous o-line already. He didn’t fold and turn into the scaredy cat that Trent Edwards became. On the contrary, Campbell improved his completion percentage, touchdowns, yards per completion, and yards. He also has a cannon which will be a plus in Buffalo. You throw in the fact that he played the Dallas Cowboys twice a year for three years and he has familiarity with a good 3-4 which is a major plus in the AFC East.

My only concern and its a major one, is that Campbell seems to have a fumbling problem and after JP Losman caused me to tear out chunks of hair I’d rather not relieve cheering for a QB who drops the rock (come to think of it, Drew Bledsoe dropped the ball a lot too).

I would welcome this move because it would satisfy me enough in terms of a nice mix of youth (28) and experience (4 years starting) to join the chorus of fans willing to wait until 2011 to get our quarterback or to nab Tebow in the 3rd round this year.

If we bring in Campbell, LT becomes my position of choice at 9 to protect him and give Lee time to get deep where Campbell can hit him.

1-Statistically Campbell is a better QB then Edwards, I’ll give you that.

However, his best season was 2009 when Washington went 4-12, so I’m thinking there’s a lot of garbage yards in there. Remove this year and he’s never throw for more than 13 TD’s in a season. Sounds a lot like a guy we already have.

2-NFL.com says Campbell has 34 career fumbles with 12 lost.

Can someone check this? That’s the reason why Shanahan wants to get rid of him. (Trust me Wash is drafting Bradford, they just want to get something for Campbell if they can.) You can’t win with a QB whose hands are more slippery like a Vancouver Ice rink. (Low blow I know. I take ’em when I can.)

3-If they were giving us a higher draft pick that might make sense. This story came from Washington, so I’m guessing that the Bills were the only team that didn’t hang up immediately when Shan called and said he was interested in traded Campbell to them.

If he’s a restricted free agent this year doesn’t that mean he’s an unrestricted free agent next year? If he is and does horrible this year, which he will behind our o-line then your going to let him walk and you traded whitner and a draft pick for nothing. Why trade for someone the skins are gonna cut anyway.

Can someone give me a similar situation that: A team is willingly trading away their only “starting caliber” QB on the roster, who is under age 28?

Someone please give me a situation in which the QB ended up turning his career around….

PS: Schaub doesn’t count since he was the backup to Vick and wasn’t playing as long as Vick was there.

was part I of my off-season plan. I don’t see how Jason Campbell is a bad idea. I’ll have to dig out my notes and post it up here soon. But his numbers last season were quite good considering the circumstances and playing behind a Buffalo like OL. He was up in the top 15 QB’s in yards per completion for sure. I’d love to see Campbell in Buffalo

It’s a great trade if the pick is low – 4th or lower, conditional ’11 would be even better depending on how many games he actually starts for Buffalo in ’10.

Dramatically improves the QB competition. Doesn’t hurt your defense all that much – although you do lose a leader. But a leader who didn’t make plays…

He’ll be better than any of the rookie QB’s if Buffalo were to draft them. Perhaps they will out-perform him on other teams that are further along than Buffalo is offensively, but I don’t think any of the rookies would come in and make Buffalo competitve in a way like Ryan did for Atlanta.

So that’s all he has to do this season, and then you take it from there. It’s not much of a loss, so the whole “he’ll never be great” contingent are kinda missing the point.

One of the main reasons why I like this would be the simple fact that the Bills would almost 100% be guranteed to HAVE to pick a LT (which hopefully will be Buluga).
I know a lot of people complain about Campbell’s fumbles, but if you watch the games he played his line was damn near invisible and he had a horrid run game to slow down the pass rush as well…

I say pull the trigger (as long as the pick we have to give them isn’t too high).

Whitner is replaceable and we’re deep at safety and QB is a glaring need on this team. I wouldn’t mind throwing a guy like Campbell into the mix and I would see this trade as relatively low risk, with a potentially high reward.

Stroud, Parrish, or Kelsay and ask for a late round draft and Campbell in return.

why not. Donte Whitner has showed me nothing besides an interception in his first game as a Bill. I believe Campbell can be a SOLID qb if put in the right system

O.K. Put Trent in right system and he’d thrive. Point is we already have a Campbell, his name is Trent. Why waste a pick on QB that’s having similuar issues that Trent has?

trent is better than cambell. no freaking way would i want to trade donte AND a draft pick for camble….come on…

If he’s so talented then why washington shopping him around? Talent wise I couldn’t tell you whose the most talented. My point is Campbell isn’t all that. He reminds me of Trent because they both share the same shitty O/L woes etc.. I thought the only thing that matters in the end is does he win ! The answer to that is NO. Can he take a hit sure, can he throw , yes. Has he been effective in W/L column. NO. Don’t waste the pick !!

Why is Washington shopping him around?

They’re the Skins. They do stupid things. The Broncos traded Cutler for no apparent reason after McNugget came in, new coaches like new QB’s to mold.

He’s no better than Trent!

I find this funny because he basically played in a similar situation to Trent (low talent team with absolutely no O-Line) and played much better than Trent. This isn’t comparing Apples to Oranges here, Campbell hasn’t broken like Trent, he’s gotten better, however slightly, in his time with the Skins. Trent has just gotten worse year by year.

The stats don’t lie. Like it said above, he had more yards, completions etc. than all the Bills QB’s combined last season.

Whitner and a pick? NO NO NO

Why not? Whitner isn’t our best starting option (maybe not even our best 2nd!) at SS anymore. The pick probably won’t be any higher than a 4th. This will basically be drafting an experienced, not all that bad QB with a late pick with Whitner thrown in. I’d much rather have that for my buck than waste a 2nd round pick on a Pike or a Snead when we could use those high picks to get valuable pieces for our new 3-4.

Going from Washington’s line to the Bills line won’t do a damn thing for him.

You have to remember that a huge part of the reason our line was so horrible last season was the injury avalanche we saw throughout the year. The first couple of games… weren’t all that bad! Levitre has another year under his belt now, and we have a possibility for a great G with Incognito. If Wood heals up (I think the frightened thoughts about his injury and how “HE’LL NEVER PLAY AGAIN” are far overblown.) he can be a monster C. If the Bills draft an LT this year, I have no reason to believe that this line is going to be worse than last year or worse than whatever the Skins will put on the field.

The man is a fumble machine!!

It’s hard not to be a fumble machine behind the worst o-line in football. And if we’re talking dumb statistics, he only lost 3 of the 13 last season. :D

I’m not saying he’s our QB of the future, but I am saying that he would certainly be worth what we would be giving up for him.

The rumor isn’t actually likely to come to fruition, and the Redskins are indicating publicly that they plan to bring Campbell back. Still, Reid writes that he wouldn’t be surprised if Campbell isn’t back with the Redskins in 2010.

Yeah.

Hearing all arguments for and against, I’m all for it. But like you so aptly stated it’s probably not gonna happen. I kinda figured it was to good to be real.

For something that will probably never happen. It never ceases to amaze me how some people on here have so much time on their hands.

The combine recorded of the teams the Skins played in the first 6 weeks were 0-14 and they went 2-4 against them. They had 1 win over a team with a .500 record at the time they played them and that was Denver and they finished 8-8. Face it, number on paper are NOT by any means a complete testament to a QB who can win in this league.