Style will play role in Bills OT evaluations
Last week's announcement that now former Buffalo Bills offensive tackle Brad Butler would be retiring from football has left his former team with quite the predicament along the offensive line. Already in need of an infusion of talent prior to Butler's retirement, the Bills are suddenly looking for two starting tackles - unless, of course, they're comfortable entering the 2010 season with either Demetrius Bell or Jamon Meredith as a starter on the edge.
The one positive in this situation is that while this year's free agent class isn't heavy on starting-caliber tackles, there are solid prospects available at the position in the 2010 NFL Draft. NFL Network's Mike Mayock believes, for the time being, that there are six tackles worthy of first-round consideration this year. With Buffalo picking No. 9 overall, if they decide that tackle is too pressing a need to pass one up, they're almost certain to have a good player available to them.
Unless, of course, they get picky. And why shouldn't they? GM Buddy Nix and head coach Chan Gailey have a specific style of play that they'd like to install as their team's identity. Playing in the brutal winters of Western New York, Nix has spoken more than once of the importance of getting bigger and more physical, and being able to play well in the elements. That might limit Buffalo's choices at left tackle this year, at least when it comes to rookie prospects.
The top tackle available this year is fairly universally Russell Okung, a senior out of Oklahoma State. Okung measured in at the NFL Combine yesterday at 6'5", 307 pounds with lengthy 36-inch arms - arms that helped him establish himself as the best pass protector available this year. But he also comes from a zone-blocking scheme in college, and clearly isn't among the top run-blockers available this year. Even if Okung were to be available to Buffalo with the ninth pick, his style of play may knock him down on Buffalo's board a peg or two.
Rutgers' Anthony Davis, meanwhile, fits the Buffalo mold much better in terms of what he does on the field. He measured in at 6'5", 323 pounds with 34-inch arms, and if you're looking for the best combination of pass blocking and run blocking available this year, Davis is your man. He's a physical blocker that has flashed dominance, and like Okung is an immediate starter on the left side. Questions about his maturity, motivation and work ethic, however, will remain unless he has impressive interview sessions at the Combine. According to WGR 550's Joe Buscaglia, Davis didn't get off to a good start in that department yesterday.
Scouts were worried about the arm length of Iowa junior Bryan Bulaga entering yesterday's weigh-in, and truth be told, the 33-inch arms attached to his 6'5", 304-pound frame are on the low end of the spectrum. But it's a passable length, and his arms certainly didn't hinder him at Iowa, where he was dominant during his three years. Bulaga comes from a cold-weather, blue-collar college town, and he'll impress scouts with his attitude, work ethic and knowledge of the game. I get the sense that Bulaga will quickly become a favorite prospect amongst Buffalo's fan base, and he's in possession of the type of playing style that will be endearing to Nix and Gailey.
No one is yet sure if Oklahoma's Trent Williams can capably man the left side at the NFL level, but to his credit, the 6'4", 315-pound senior thinks he can - and hopes he gets the opportunity to prove it. Scouts really like him on tape, but there's no doubt he struggled on the left side in his final year at Oklahoma. (He played right tackle up until last season, when he took over for current Vikings RT Phil Loadholt.) Williams is a physical blocker somewhat similar to Davis, but again, questions exist about his work ethic. He'll almost certainly go higher than some expect him to, but many NFL teams are looking at him exclusively as a right tackle.
In terms of sheer athleticism, you can't beat Maryland junior entry Bruce Campbell. He's physically imposing (6'6", 314 pounds, 36-inch arms), and he's a phenomenally gifted athlete. But he also lacks experience, thanks in large part to his being an early entrant and dealing with a myriad of nagging injuries. That injury history will concern scouts. More to the point of this post, Campbell is not overly physical at the point of attack, though he can be devastating at the second level. His injuries might scare some teams off, but his upside will be enough to make him a first-round pick. It's questionable how high he'll rank on Buffalo's board, however, based on his style of play, as well as his other red flags.
One of the most underrated prospects available at any position this year, USC's Charles Brown is a name to keep an eye on. The 6'5", 303-pound Brown (35-inch arms) isn't the most physically imposing tackle available this year; in fact, scouts questioned whether or not he'd even weigh in at 300+ pounds yesterday. He's an excellent pass protector and does well in the run game at the second level, but again, Brown is more of a finesse prospect that needs to get stronger at the point of attack. He's absolutely a first-round talent, but again, he's a player that might slide down Buffalo's board thanks to playing style.
The important point here is that Buffalo has options. They might not have the choice of being picky about playing style, either - that's how desperate for talent they are. Depending on what happens in free agency, however, Buffalo might not be as urgent to draft a tackle as they appear to be right now. Should that happen, playing style will absolutely be a factor; it'll be a factor regardless, obviously - the Bills aren't going to draft a guy they don't like on tape - but it could cause their draft board to look slightly different than common public perception. Davis, Bulaga and Williams have the type of physicality and athleticism to excel in colder-weather cities. That's more questionable when talking about Okung, Campbell and Brown. Take that into consideration heading forward, because we're fairly certain the Bills already have.
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Unless they are completely enamored with Bulaga or Davis it would be a good year for the Bills to look for a partner and try to trade down about 10 spots. With six quality first round OT prospects they are still pretty certain to get one and they could use more picks. We have a lot of holes to fill.
Of course trading down is easier said than done. But it makes sense. I don’t see any players at their other two biggest areas of need (QB, NT) that I would want them to take at 9. I like Bradford but he will be long gone by 9, he just weighed in at 236 at the combine and if he proves his shoulder is healthy I can see him going #1 to the Rams.
I think there’s only 4 LTs that “fit the Bill” though. Charles Brown is an athlete and pass blocker, but he may be a bad run blocker, especially early in his career. The Bills need to find balanced blockers to win late in the season. I don’t think Trent Williams will play LT in the NFL either. I think he gets drafted to play RT and maybe flips over later in his career, but it’s possible that he’s a career RT. So, if Buffalo wants a day one starter at LT, it might have to be Okung, Davis, Bulaga or Campbell.
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Of course, the other option is to go hard after an LT in FA, hope Bell develops, and pick up the RT in the draft. I don’t know that I really prefer one route over the other, but we definitely need to fill both spots.
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by WhyBillsWhy on Feb 26, 2010 11:32 AM EST up reply actions
But look closely at the scouting evaluations and you will see that he has had a lot of trouble matching up against speed rushers — primarily because his lateral movement is a lot more limited than you would want. If that has been true in college, how will he fare in the NFL? And he is not that great as a run blocker mainly because he has trouble getting to the second level (i.e., he is more of a roadgrader on running plays). That’s less crucial for an OT than an OG, but it is still a consideration.
He is still my first choice among the OT’s that the Bills might take at #9. But as Brian appears to be suggesting in his article, it is also possible that Nix and Gailey may decide there isn’t anyone worth taking that high given the style of player they will be looking for, in which case they may very well prefer someone like Rodger Saffold or Ducasse in the second or third round. And if course there is the definite possibility that Okung and Bulaga may both be gone before we are on the board, in which case going with someone solid like Saffold later on strikes me as the smartest possible move.
1st and 3rd
Grab one of these guys in the 1st and Kyle Campbell at RT in the 3rd. Seriously, a line of Levitre, Wood, Campbell, and the 1st round LT could develop into best line in NFL.
by FergusonQB12 on Feb 26, 2010 10:11 AM EST via mobile reply actions
don't forget Bell
Demetrius got thrown into the fire last year, but that is an experience that will make or break him. A good offseason of renewed strength and conditioning could positiion him as the long term starter at RT, while letting us draft a quality LT in the 1st. As well, I do agree that two tackles in this draft (similar to drafting two interior players in last year’s draft is the way to go.) If Wood has problems, we could still keep Incognito, and if the RT comes on, Bell might also be a fit inside if necessary. Hangartner is a suitable cetner, btter than Fowler was, and whether he stays at center or moves to guard with Wood going to center, or provides depth and experience across the board, I can only hope that with the coaching change, Gailey can give a fresh look at the line situation and say, “If we draft two tackles Buddy, then we are solid across our front line. My guys know how to coach my road-grading style for a good run game” Add to that a new speedster at RB (and get Marshawn to shed some pounds and get back into rookie shape so he can regain some speed) and we will have a solid run game, which in turn, might give us options at TE, of which I would like to pick up the guy that was hurt from Cincy last year if he recovers from his knee injury as a leader for our young Nelson and a dependable blocker. That would be huge… not to mention I hope the receivers step up, but QB is more important to me for WR success than the other way around
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by killascript on Feb 26, 2010 10:53 AM EST up reply actions
Bell really should be a LT
Bell’s greatest assets are his quickness and agility. Add that to his size and arm length and he has the perfect physical tools to become a LT in the NFL. Putting him at RT in that sense might be a real waste of his talents. Indeed, he is a better fit at LT than Bulaga. The biggest questions about him, it seems to me, are his attitude and durability. Does he play mean enough? At times he did last year, but at other times he seemed to be very hesitant. Was that because he was still mastering his technique (especially in regard to making maximum use of his arms), or because he doesn’t have the mental toughness you are looking for in an OT (something Bulaga has in spades)? And is he especially prone to injury, or did he just have some bad luck in that department last year?
My take is that none of us on this blog have the expertise to make those kinds of evaluations, but Buddy Nix and Chan Gailey probably do. I expect they have been looking hard at Bell on tape — and at Meredith, who also has exceptional potential — trying to figure out whether they already have their LT of the future or whether they need to draft one at #9.
Putting him at RT in that sense might be a real waste of his talents
I’d say that this would be true over the long haul – but he needs developing. Spending a year at RT against lesser athletes and not having to protect the QBs blindside might do wonders for his development as a LT
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by J2 on Feb 26, 2010 3:43 PM EST up reply actions
Yes, I agree with that. He should have been at RT last year, the way Jason Smith and Michael Oher were. But he has now started eight games at LT and presumably learned a lot from that (he was just starting to get the hang of it just before he was injured). The question is whether it makes sense to use pick #9 on a potential LT when the team has so many other major needs and Bell might very well beat out the rookie as the starter this year (after all, wouldn’t you want to put the rookie at RT the way Oher and Smith were?). At this point someone might say that we should go ahead and take an OT at #9 anyway to compete with Bell for the position, but you already have Meredith for that.
Again, I think it all comes down to what Nix and Gailey saw on tape when they were taking stock of Bell (and Meredith), and especially their evaluation of his durability. If they feel they can hold off until round two or three before getting their OT it gives them so much more leeway on draft day.
well – and i’ll help sirerics head – i’m not sure that we should be targeting any position at 9 except for best player available. obviously tackle (O and D), QB and some positions hold more weight than others.
but we’re essentially on the same page – let the rebuilding begin!
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by J2 on Feb 26, 2010 4:49 PM EST up reply actions
Good luck getting anyone to agree who BPA is at #9
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Ugggghhhhhh
Bell might very well beat out the rookie as the starter this year
OT at #9 anyway to compete with Bell for the position, but you already have Meredith for that.
So both Bell and Meredith are LTs? Do you really want to take that chance? Draft another LT anyway. It end up with more than we need, we will trade him for more than he cost us. Win Win.
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I am not totally sold on the fact that we need to draft an OT at #9.
I am also not sold that we need to draft a QB at #9 either. Now if the best player available at #9 is an OT then yes I say draft him and let him come in and compete with the other OL. This pick has to be an impact player right from the start. What I am sold on is that Nix know’s how to select offensive and defensive lineman. I am also sold on Nix knowing that these players exist in the 3rd – 5th rounds as well. I am totally sold on drafting Rolando McClain at #9 but I believe it would be in the teams best interest to trade down for extra picks. The point here is that we can’t discount the experience that our mediocre young players received last year.
This is like dumping a new puzzle from it's box. Now let's start putting the peices together. I guess this is what we all asked for.
by VanScottM on Feb 26, 2010 6:59 PM EST up reply actions 3 recs
Good write, and rec'd
Gotta leave it in Chix hands… I was goings through some old draft stuff, and found that both Meredith and Bell have the physical tools you want for a LT… Personally, I wouldn’t be adverse to letting them battle it out with a couple draft/FA additions for the 2 jobs… BPA is definitely the way to go in at least the first 2 rds, after that, players tend to “bunch” up a bit….
And if a McClain, or Bryant fall to our pick, with Bulaga and Okung off the board, I’d be seriously pissed if we passed on them…. JMO….
by Cinga on Feb 26, 2010 7:34 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
I agree with the both of you...rec'd
Until they do something real questionable, I am on board all the way. BPA – Acquire That SUPERSTAR TALENT!
by NorCal BillsFan on Feb 26, 2010 11:34 PM EST up reply actions
either way
drafting a tackle or two would do wonders for the depth and long term viability of this line. I hope wood comes back on the interior, but I would not see another interior lineman pick as wasted pick in the least. Hell, if we drafted all lineman, a TE and a true NT and got nothing else, i still think we would have a solid draft. Gotta think long term, and yuo have to hope that this staff is better at developing the in house talent than the Jauron regime… at least on offense and the line. Peters was an anomaly
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Bulaga is my favorite among the OT’s not named Okung. What really worries me about Anthony Davis is his sloppy technique at times, not overly impresssive athleticism/footwork and questionable work ethic.
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by BillsfanfromDenmark on Feb 26, 2010 10:12 AM EST reply actions
Tried
I tried to find reports confirming your deficiencies, athleticism, technique, footwork and work ethic. All I could find was work ethic issues and quickness of the ball. Davis is consider to be equally adept at both run/ pass blocking. Has no physical issues i.e. arm length. Nothing negative about athleticism, footwork. I find arm length to be Bulaga’s biggest negative, were Davis’s is more than adequate. As far as work ethic, some people have to work harder to achieve goals. For Davis it just came easier, with less effort. I think he’ll step up his game to better compete at pro level. physically I find Davis better option over Bulaga. That said I’d prefer Davis, but Bulaga is close second.
by buffalobacker on Feb 26, 2010 11:54 AM EST up reply actions
Davis isn’t technically deficient, but I wouldn’t call him a master technician, either. He’s got work to do there. His biggest issue in college was inconsistency; he had an awful game against Syracuse this past season, for instance.
That’s where the work ethic/motivation concerns come into question. A guy as talented as Davis shouldn’t stink against a team as bad as Syracuse.
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by Brian Galliford on Feb 26, 2010 12:26 PM EST up reply actions
I’m not by any stretch of the imagination saying that Davis is rubbish at all. He’s a very, very good football player with tons of upside, but I just like to go with the safer pick, when you’re picking in the top ten, which I for what it’s worth think Bulaga is. His toughness, tremendous all-round ability, athleticism, consistency and lunch-pail mentality reminds me of a lesser version of Jake Long and a far better version of Sam Baker. I just like the kid a lot.
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by BillsfanfromDenmark on Feb 26, 2010 12:57 PM EST up reply actions
wow
That’s excatly how I feel about Buluga. He’s somewhere in between Jake Long, Joe Thomas to Sam Baker, Joe Stanely type of OT.
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by SouthBuffaloNDgrad on Feb 26, 2010 1:45 PM EST up reply actions
Im with you friend.
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by norcaliangelsfan on Feb 26, 2010 1:19 PM EST up reply actions
Bulaga
Word is Bulaga might struggle with lateral movement vs outside rush. Didn’t see it tried once in Orange Bowl. Not a good thing vs 3-4 OLBs in AFC East.
by FergusonQB12 on Feb 26, 2010 10:15 AM EST via mobile reply actions
Bulaga
Or maybe that won’t be as big an issue vs a 3-4. X and O guys? Thoughts?
by FergusonQB12 on Feb 26, 2010 10:21 AM EST via mobile reply actions
Mike Williams’ playing weight at Texas was 375 pounds. He played RT in college and everybody knew that he couldn’t play LT in his wildest dreams. Davis is worlds more athletic than Williams was and his weight problems are very overblown. His work ethic concerns might be very real, but there’s no way for us to know, especially this early in the process. But weight isn’t going to be his problem in the NFL. The concerns over Davis are about how much effort he puts into things between tuesday and friday. Whether or not he does his film work and how mentally prepared he is to play on sundays. I’ve never seen him take plays off in college either.
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This is great stuff Brian. And it goes for all positions, not just the OL. Scheme and style play a huge factor in determining who the best players are because the guy who is the best OT available for a pass heavy dome team like Indy might not be anywhere near the best option for the outdoors and hopefully balanced Bills offense. The Bills will need adequate or better run blockers because the ability to pick up those 3rd and 1s on the ground is much more important for the Bills than it is for dome teams.
Quarterback is the biggest position that style plays a factor in because Buffalo simply cannot afford to draft a player with a weak arm, especially early in the draft. They can’t take Colt McCoy in the 2nd round unless they want to be the Jets teams of the 2000s with efficient QB play, but can’t force defenses to cover enough ground to beat the best ones come December.
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Some others of note...
Veldheer… 6-8, 312, 33 in arms
Black 6-4, 327, 33
Fox 6-7, 303, 34 1/2
Calloway, 6-6, 323, 33 1/4
Ducasse 6-4, 332, 34 3/4
Iupati 6-5, 331, 34 3/4
How does a 6'8" guy have the shortest arms of them all??
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I was wondering myself....
and it makes me wonder if he might only be a Langston type RT… His drills will be interesting to see if he has the agility to play left… Watched a bit of tape, and he looks quick enough, but against slower/lesser competition….
What about the fact that the saints slapped a 2nd round tender on bushrod? does that become worth it?
by quantumuprising on Feb 26, 2010 11:51 AM EST reply actions
It’d take a pretty sizable deal and a second-round pick to get a highly, HIGHLY average left tackle. No thanks.
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by Brian Galliford on Feb 26, 2010 12:27 PM EST up reply actions
giving up 1 total sack to a back to back combo of jared allen and dwight freeney is highly average?
by quantumuprising on Feb 26, 2010 2:13 PM EST up reply actions
When you’ve got a genius at quarterback, yes. Is Charlie Johnson one of the league’s better up-and-coming left tackles, too?
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by Brian Galliford on Feb 26, 2010 2:16 PM EST up reply actions
Even Mike Gandy has done an adequate job of protecting Kurt Warner. Fans who casually watched the Colts a couple years ago thought that 2nd rounder Tony Ugoh was going to be a great LT because Manning never seemed like he was under pressure, and was only sacked 14 times. But the diehard Colts fans thought Ugoh was terrible and needed to be replaced.
Drew Brees was sacked 7 more times this regular season than he was last year despite throwing the ball 115 fewer times than he did a year ago. If Bushrod was really a good LT, then NO would have shelled out the extra mil (probably less) to slap the 1st round tender on him.
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Rodger Saffold, IND
This guy could be 1 3rd round pick and his position coach in college is now Bills Asst Oline coach
heres some
Rodger Saffold
Height: 6-5 | Weight: 312 | Position:OT | College: Indiana
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02/16/2010 – PRO POTENTIAL: For a team that suffered through back-to-back losing seasons, the Hoosiers sure are raising a lot of eyebrows in the NFL ranks. Indiana will send four players to the NFL Scouting Combine in Indianapolis later this month, and IU should be well-represented come draft weekend. OT Rodger Saffold – Saffold was a four-year starter in Bloomington and he was one of the standouts during the week of practice leading up to the East-West Shrine game. Saffold has good footwork and will be an intriguing prospect for NFL teams.
01/20/2010 – EAST-WEST SHRINE RISERS: OT Roger Saffold, Indiana: It’s hard to argue anyone but Saffold was the best player on the field this week. He was strong, moved his feet well in pass protection and when drive-blocking gave good effort through the end of plays, and was mobile enough to hit targets at the second level. Some scouts will project him inside, but it appears the 3.5-year starter at left tackle should at least get a chance to prove he can handle those responsibilities. A third-round selection seems likely for Saffold at this point in the process. – Chad Reuter, The Sports Xchange, NFLDraftScout.com
We do know that the Bills made it a point to interview Saffold at the combine. Don’t be surprised if they end up choosing him. He looks like a solid prospect and a steal in terms of his relative draft value.
Is there possiby a list going somewhere of who we talked so far at the combine?
by NorCal BillsFan on Feb 26, 2010 11:36 PM EST up reply actions
heres the profile pre combine on him from NFL.com
http://www.nfl.com/combine/profiles/rodger-saffold?id=497048
He showed good #s for cone drill, 20 yd shuttle and both vertical and broad jump
i would like bulaga
because i think okung is gone. i feel like bulaga might not be there either though. it will depend on if there is a run on ots early, like last year…
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by silverstreak3k on Feb 26, 2010 12:12 PM EST reply actions
Count me in the minority
but I’m hoping the OT class is so good a team like Detroit decides to bite on Russell Okung, creating a scenario in which the Redskins and Seahawks, previously leaning towards taking a QB get sucked into a run and feel pressured to take LTs themselves allowing Sam Bradford to fall to Buffalo at 9.
If Buffalo ends up with a free agent or trade QB prior to the draft I’m hoping that Okung or Bulaga are the pick at 9. Bulaga seems to be getting glowing reviews and I put Okung’s name on there because in the past, when a player previously perceived to be a 4 or 5th best option at his position gets talked up so heavily it usually amounts to a surprise pick – maybe Bulaga goes first LT off the board to Washington or Detroit?
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DraftDaddy has moved Bulaga
to the top of their board, and I would expect others to as well rather soon… Bulaga is quickly becoming a pipe dream to Bills fans I’m afraid…
there ya go
see, thats what I suspected was going to start happening. When everyone falls in love with the originally lower tier option this close to the draft he tends to leap frog to the top. I would love Okung at 9 if Bulaga does become the first LT off the board.
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But....
I think the reason is not necessarily Bulaga rising, so much as it’s Okung falling… I don’t understand blocking schemes well enough to tell one from the other, but from what I’ve read, concerns over Okung playing a zone scheme in college, have some questioning whether he could be an effective OT for a power team….
I don’t think he is at all. This is my current mock draft (which is likely to be completely wrong come draft day):
1. St. Louis Rams – Sam Bradford, QB, Oklahoma
2. Detroit Lions – Ndamakung Suh, DT, Nebraska
3. Tampa Bay Buccaneers – Gerald McCoy, DT, Oklahoma
4. Washington Redskins – Jimmy Clausen, QB, Notre Dame
5. Kansas City Chiefs – Russell Okung, OT, Oklahoma State
6. Seattle Seahawks – Eric Berry, FS, Tennessee
7. Cleveland Browns – Joe Haden, CB, Florida
8. Oakland Raiders – Jason Pierre Paul, DE, USF
9. Buffalo Bills – Bryan Bulaga, OT, Iowa
What it comes down to in this mock draft is the Seahawks and whether they go BPA and thereby choose Berry or whether they choose positional value and need and draft their highest rated OT, likely either Davis or Bulaga.
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by BillsfanfromDenmark on Feb 26, 2010 1:04 PM EST up reply actions
In general I like your thinking, but don’t forget the possibility that the Raiders might go OT. And that remains a possibility for the Redskins as well (although I’m with you in suspecting that they are more like to choose a QB).
Raiders drafting OT
Which one has posted the fastest 40 time?
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They drafted Gallery.........
he wasnt the fastest :-)
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by norcaliangelsfan on Feb 26, 2010 2:56 PM EST up reply actions
Past has shown with the Raiders that it’s ALWAYS about speed and strength. Pierre Paul is perhaps the most athletically gifted player in the entire draft or at least close, which I think is why the Raiders might pick him in the draft. Otherwise, I could see them drafting Dez Bryant, Carlos Dunlap or Bruce Campbell.
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by BillsfanfromDenmark on Feb 26, 2010 3:39 PM EST up reply actions
I’m thinking that Davis may be getting so senile that he actually by pure chance drafts the player he needs.
then
If that’s true our senior FO has a chance too!
by buffalobacker on Feb 26, 2010 4:52 PM EST up reply actions
Agree,but...
I think seattle looking at QB or OT, not FS. I as well believe Bulaga is gonna be gone before we pick.
by buffalobacker on Feb 26, 2010 1:51 PM EST up reply actions
What about Ducasse?
Just wanted to know your thoughts
by NorCal BillsFan on Feb 26, 2010 1:52 PM EST reply actions
I look at Ducasse purely as a guard.
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by Brian Galliford on Feb 26, 2010 1:54 PM EST up reply actions
Agreed, maybe he could kick out and play RT.
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Okay, is it experience or lack of top competition or do you fell he is limited athletically?
Also, since your responding…What are your thoughts on Veldheer?
Being on the West Coast, we didn’t get many games ot watch these guys play so I am in the dark.
by NorCal BillsFan on Feb 26, 2010 1:58 PM EST reply actions
Haha, I assume you’re still talking to me… :)
I believe athletically – measureables, footwork, the strengths of his game – are best suited at guard in the professional ranks. There are some that think he can be a right tackle, and I could see that working out, but he’ll be at his best inside.
I have never seen Jared Veldheer play, and thus don’t have an opinion on him.
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by Brian Galliford on Feb 26, 2010 2:03 PM EST up reply actions
Yeah, sorry about that...
When the post is the last one at the bottom, I tend to forget to hit reply…
BTW- I only see Ducasse as a RT (maybe a RG, if you day he can fit in there). IMO, I think OBD will NT, DE, T in the forst three rounds, but I doubt T is the 1st pick. It is just the vibe I am getting. I actually dont mind Bell back at LT, as long as we get another quality T to play RT.
by NorCal BillsFan on Feb 26, 2010 4:08 PM EST up reply actions
Bulaga
Bulaga is the answer at LT he is a beast. I hope they dont screw this up.He is there man.
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