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A response to Peter Bean

 Yesterday Brian posted link from SBNation's Peter Bean's NFL combine diary. I found it to be a well written article that made several fine points and was somewhat entertaining. Mr. Bean (ironic?) however contradicted himself, and to those of us who are familiar with the subject of his poor humor were easily able to recognize his gaff for what it was. Take these two quotes from the article:

Reflecting on how remarkably intense this all is, I try to strike up a conversation with the media member stationed next to me, a newspaper reporter from a metropolitan daily in Florida. Can you imagine, I ask, if each of us had to go through something like this to land our jobs?

He shrugs indifferently, a reaction I initially attribute to his veteran experience, but soon begin to think representative of something very different. There are over 200 members of the media in attendance, and the more of them I interact with, the more I sense a pervasive cynicism. For every perfectly pleasant, engaging person I meet, there are two jaded, disinterested souls going through the motions. Many seem cranky, generally, and many others quickly become so when they find out I'm covering the event as a part-time blogger.

"Doesn't your paper ask you to blog these days?" I ask one writer who seems particularly disgusted with my presence.

"You bet your ass they do," he hisses in reply. "But if it weren't for jokers like you, they'd still appreciate my filing three stories per week, instead of asking me to write a blog three times a day."

This isn't to say that everyone I meet is this way, but more than enough are that I understand why new media continues to grow and thrive as it is. The gatekeeper status previously enjoyed by established media made sports journalism an enjoyable, privileged position; and now, any old schmuck with a computer and Internet connection can do the job. Unsurprisingly, many do it better, and equally unsurprising, among the old guard the change breeds resentment.

"Really?" I ask, prodding for explanation. "Because my only regret is that I can't explore sports with as much depth as I could if I just had enough time to write about everything I want to write about."

"And that's the trouble with you young people," is his reply.

And that pretty much says it all.

 

And then this:

 

Chain Gailey, Bills Head Coach: At this point, we all know Chan Gailey better than we should, and while I can't say I understand why the Bills would hire Gailey for a reclamation project, I find myself endlessly amused by his press conference, primarily because the media's favorite go-to question for anyone and everyone is some version of, "How has _____________ helped you prepare for where you are now?" Whereas with Jim Schwartz there was a single question about how his background in player personnel might be helping him today, almost the entire Chan Gailey press conference is filled with questions about how his various experiences in the past will help him now.

I have to bite my tongue not to ask how his wealth of experience with mediocrity is helping him prepare to make the Bills mediocre.

 

 In the first snip-it Bean tells of how complacent the "Old Guard Media" has become. He insinuates how they hate bloggers because they have made their jobs more taxing. Basically Bean says that older media types are lazy and thanks to bloggers the higher-ups at newspapers and other media outlets have asked sports writers to work harder, to do more, to actually, you know, work more.

 In the second snip-it Bean falls right into the same trap as these very same "Old Guard Media types" and takes the easy way out by picking on the Buffalo Bills. As a Bills fan I am painfully aware that they are thought of in the same vein as the Oakland Raiders and Detroit Lions. Basically I know my team isn't good. I have heard all the jokes before and I am well aware that the bigger media outlets ignore my beloved Bills because they aren't all that great. This is a what-have-you-done-lately industry. When the Bills get good again they will get more attention. Plain and simple. Therein lies the issue.

 If SBNation wants to set itself out from the crowd they are going to have to ask more of the bloggers that they choose to send to big events like the NFL combine. They can't afford to publish the same rubbish as the ESPN's of the world. What makes SBNation great in my opinion is the fact that they aren't the bigger media outlet. They have access to guys who know more about their respective teams then most of the big time media types. Who would you rather listen to for information about you team? A guy who follows one team and one team only, or a guy who is trying to cover all 32 at the same time? If I am going to read the same old junk why wouldn't I just go to ESPN, or Sports Illustrated?

 Mr. Bean had a prime opportunity to showcase his investigative journalism ability and tell sports fans something of some substance about the Buffalo Bills. All he had to do was, you know, work more. To do more then the lazy "Old Guard Media". Instead he took the easy way out like many of the same people he criticized just a few paragraphs earlier by making snide comments about the Bills. Maybe that is the problem. Mr. Bean isn't an investigative journalist, he is a part time blogger so he has to take the easy way out.  Or does he?

 Maybe SBNation should think a little harder when they choose a blogger to attend these events. Sending the wrong guy can have an adverse effect on what they are trying to accomplish. You failed to deliver Mr. Bean. Just my two cents.

Just another great fan opinion shared on the pages of BuffaloRumblings.com.

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Bravo

Well wrote. Mr Bean is a tool.

by mob16151 on Feb 27, 2010 3:46 PM EST reply actions  

yeah that is pretty funny.

No weekend spent pantsless is a wasted weekend.

by sireric on Feb 27, 2010 5:28 PM EST up reply actions  

Not only that, eric. I think that in order for bloggers to be seen as worthy of teams’ and the league’s time they need to hold themselves to a higher standard. You can’t take pot shots at guys and expect to get privileges with them. The Colts, for instance, refuse to grant media access to any bloggers because they think of them as a lower form of media. Well Bean is acting like the big shots without the millions of followers a site like ESPN or SI.com has.

by MattRichWarren on Feb 27, 2010 3:52 PM EST reply actions  

Exactly right. Ridiculing the “Old Guard” doesn’t help.

No weekend spent pantsless is a wasted weekend.

by sireric on Feb 27, 2010 4:18 PM EST up reply actions  

At the same time

Bean isn’t a Bills blogger, so expecting him to know a great deal about them isn’t really something I’d be counting on.

And I totally agree that on one hand he is taking the easy way out, the Old Guard way of just lobbing a mediocre insult instead of getting something of real substance. But we’re talking about a University of Texas blogger, not someone who runs a Bills site. Something more sure would have been nice, but what exactly should be expected here? Maybe he didn’t have the same opportunity to ask questions, so getting that information may have been out of the question. Its tough to tell. The insult wasn’t necessary or particularly original, that’d be my only beef with it.

I wonder what his restrictions on these articles are? You’d think SBN would want him churning out nuggets instead of daily articles, but who knows…

~K
"As the governor of Louisiana once said, the only way Chris Kelsay can lose his job is if he got caught in bed with a dead girl or a live boy."

by Kurupt on Feb 27, 2010 5:13 PM EST via mobile reply actions  

Bean isn’t a Bills blogger, so expecting him to know a great deal about them isn’t really something I’d be counting on.

Very true, however I wouldn’t expect him to know a great deal about the Bills. That is where a little digging or investigative journalism comes into play.

No weekend spent pantsless is a wasted weekend.

by sireric on Feb 27, 2010 5:30 PM EST up reply actions  

Who's to say he didn't?

Maybe he had a question to ask or never had the chance to obtain any further info.

Talking about Chan Gailey and the Bills, without any new info, there wasn’t much else to say for a piece like that unfortunately. It wasn’t necessary, but we also don’t know whether there was access to any new info.

~K
"As the governor of Louisiana once said, the only way Chris Kelsay can lose his job is if he got caught in bed with a dead girl or a live boy."

by Kurupt on Feb 27, 2010 5:45 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

I guess I would like to think that there were more informative things to say about the Bills at the combine then:

I have to bite my tongue not to ask how his wealth of experience with mediocrity is helping him prepare to make the Bills mediocre.

No weekend spent pantsless is a wasted weekend.

by sireric on Feb 27, 2010 5:55 PM EST up reply actions  

there hasnt been informative things to say about the Bills in 10 years......

"I have to bite my tongue not to ask how his wealth of experience with mediocrity is helping him prepare to make the Bills mediocre." - SB Nation's Peter Bean about Chan Gailey during the NFL Scouting Combine

by norcaliangelsfan on Feb 28, 2010 10:26 AM EST up reply actions  

Then why take the shot?

There are 32 teams, surely he could find one with something new and interesting happening.

by milwaukee on Feb 27, 2010 8:38 PM EST up reply actions  

well said.

"you just have to know there's always going to be adversity. None of these games are going to be easy. Nothing will be given to us" - Paul Posluszny

by poz on Feb 28, 2010 12:57 PM EST up reply actions  

That's why I said I thought it was unnecessary....

~K
"As the governor of Louisiana once said, the only way Chris Kelsay can lose his job is if he got caught in bed with a dead girl or a live boy."

by Kurupt on Feb 28, 2010 8:35 PM EST up reply actions  

Something more sure would have been nice, but what exactly should be expected here?

Reporting what Gailey said. As simple as that. Tell us what the guy said. Maybe impart a little of his own insight with respect to Gailey’s comments. Say “I agree” or “I disagree” and then why. It’s not that hard. Mostly, just don’t be a d-bag who sounds like he’s not taking advantage of this awesome once-in-a-lifetime kind of opportunity.

Official ledge-talker-offer of the Buffalo Bills.

by WhyBillsWhy on Mar 3, 2010 2:37 PM EST up reply actions  

Rec'd

I hope that he and others see this too!

by BillsfanDan on Feb 27, 2010 5:13 PM EST reply actions  

Also

Why won’t SBN send Brian to do something like this?!?! He sure as hell would keep it professional and actually provide readers valuable info instead of the same old, same old…

~K
"As the governor of Louisiana once said, the only way Chris Kelsay can lose his job is if he got caught in bed with a dead girl or a live boy."

by Kurupt on Feb 27, 2010 5:15 PM EST via mobile reply actions  

Perhaps because he writes for the lowly Bills.

Is Brian, and this site, well regarded in SBN? I find it hard to believe any other sites churn out such fantastic work on a daily basis.

by BillsfanDan on Feb 27, 2010 5:17 PM EST up reply actions  

Brian is

He’s published stuff on the front page of SBN before. And Rumblings is one of the top 3 NFL blogs in terms of page views and unique visitors on the platform. The problem is the Bills and the lack of interest outside of Bills fans….but then again, who gives a crap about Texas sports outside of Longhorn fans/alums???

~K
"As the governor of Louisiana once said, the only way Chris Kelsay can lose his job is if he got caught in bed with a dead girl or a live boy."

by Kurupt on Feb 27, 2010 5:48 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

Some guy in NM?

No weekend spent pantsless is a wasted weekend.

by sireric on Feb 27, 2010 5:56 PM EST up reply actions  

Jerry Jones

Nix and Chan, the new Cheech and Chong of the Bills, hopefully they will be as successful in business as they were, and not so much the drug fueled comedy act....

by WABillsfan on Feb 27, 2010 6:19 PM EST up reply actions  

Some guy in NM?

Or another guy who doesn’t like pants?

by krytime on Feb 27, 2010 11:15 PM EST up reply actions  

Unique visitors?

Like people from OBD use this blog as a source of information?!? No wayyyy…..gasp =)

Bills fan half way around the world

by moncheri on Mar 1, 2010 1:25 PM EST up reply actions  

We love Brian

His content is first rate. We definitely know what our stars are doing ;-)

by Tyler Bleszinski on Mar 2, 2010 10:15 PM EST up reply actions  

It’s not an unwillingness on SB Nation’s part. I could have applied for credentials to this year’s Combine. It was just a bad week for me to go work-wise. :(

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by Brian Galliford on Feb 27, 2010 7:40 PM EST up reply actions  

You should try to get credentials to the Draft then.....

~K
"As the governor of Louisiana once said, the only way Chris Kelsay can lose his job is if he got caught in bed with a dead girl or a live boy."

by Kurupt on Feb 28, 2010 8:36 PM EST up reply actions  

I second that idea

That would be awesome. Then you could find out Peter Bean’s favorite teamand keep taking potshot’s at them. BTW JK about the Bean part. But you should seriously get draft credential’s.

by mob16151 on Mar 1, 2010 1:19 AM EST up reply actions  

Peter Bean’s favorite team is Pittsburgh, and it’s incredibly difficult to take pot shots at that organization.

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by Brian Galliford on Mar 1, 2010 8:05 AM EST up reply actions  

Nah it's easy

Hey Pitsburgh, your best player has chick hair………NM it’s harder than I thought. lol

by mob16151 on Mar 1, 2010 8:45 AM EST up reply actions  

Bandwagon fan is always a good retort ;-)

by sabre74kkn on Mar 1, 2010 4:14 PM EST up reply actions  

Well said Sir!!!! Rec'd

and very truthful…
I know that I, like many others, log in first, and foremost to Rumblings when I’m home (and sometimes at work) to get my Bills news… Likewise, I’m sure many others around SBNation do the same with their respective teams. ANd in my opinion, any blogger attending these events in the name of SBNation, needs to be as unbiased as possible in order to represent the entire Nation and not pick sides with any team over others….
That said, have respect as well for the so called “old guard”… What they’ve accomplished over the years, is what enables us today… JMHO….

by Cinga on Feb 27, 2010 5:18 PM EST reply actions  

It’s not the “Old Guard” per say. It’s the idea of getting comfortable and complacent.

No weekend spent pantsless is a wasted weekend.

by sireric on Feb 27, 2010 5:33 PM EST up reply actions  

Well said

love the website [ Rumblings] Log on at work mostly and home sometimes. Only place to get quality info on my Bill’s.

by buffalobacker on Feb 27, 2010 5:58 PM EST up reply actions  

I agree with this observation

It really is lazy journalism to actually list Gailey as being there and taking questions, and then just completely dismiss anything he said. Why even bring it up then? I guess to make a joke? That must have been the only intent.

by StroudFanClub on Feb 27, 2010 8:27 PM EST reply actions  

There’s no doubt in my mind Chan Gailey is a mediocre coach, but I know a lot of mediocre coaches (Norv Turner, Wade Phillips, Tom Coughlin, Mike McCarthy, Brad Childress) who have experienced a lot of success because they are fortunate enought to have some brilliant GM’s to collect talent for them. As important as HC’s are, I find GM’s more important, because they are the ones, who build the team. Buddy Nix is going to be the guy that will make this team successful or not.

"The one commonality in both places (Oakland and Buffalo) is an aging owner who keeps interfering too much. Ralph Wilson continually butts his nose in the football operation and tells the team who to draft"

by BillsfanfromDenmark on Feb 28, 2010 1:51 PM EST reply actions  

I would argue that you can have all the "talent" in the world.......

without a good leader on the field that talent wont do squat…..

See LIONS……or back in the day Bengals (when they were taking guys in the top 5 every year)

All the guys who get drafted in the NFL have the talent………it takes a guy who can teach and lead to mold them into a team.

I’d take a great coach over a great GM anyday.

"I have to bite my tongue not to ask how his wealth of experience with mediocrity is helping him prepare to make the Bills mediocre." - SB Nation's Peter Bean about Chan Gailey during the NFL Scouting Combine

by norcaliangelsfan on Feb 28, 2010 2:05 PM EST up reply actions  

Is Chan Gailey a mediocre coach? Quite possibly. Will the Bills continue to be mediocre? Again possibly. The point is however, Mr. Bean reflects at how the assembled media can’t ask Gailey an original question, then he himself lack the guts to throw a jibe. Why put that line in there? To show that you something about the NFL?

 If I make the statement that all Texas players are soft and make bad NFL players because they are coddled like little babies while at school, I am sure that Mr. Bean would take some issue with that statement. Am I throwing out an original barb? No. Am I being clever? Not really. It’s the same thing.

No weekend spent pantsless is a wasted weekend.

by sireric on Feb 28, 2010 8:30 PM EST up reply actions  

There’s no doubt in my mind Chan Gailey is a mediocre coach

Why? He is currently 0-0 as the Bills HC…

When a guy has been hired to do a job, it is absolutely imperative that you do not give him a performance appraisal before he begins his job. I am sick of this attitude, especially on this site. Around the country, sportwriters bang on the Bills for not making a big splash in the HC hiring process, they blasted us as a destination that no one wanted to be in, they said we cant find a quality HC because of our location, or our owner, or the economy in WNY, or for some other reason, either valid or not. We know this team better than most sportswriters and I, personally, think Gailey’s idea of bringing in more teacher-like coaches is an excellent idea due to our current situation. Gailey may turn out to be mediocre or even bad, but he also may turn out to be great. Give him a year at least, I would agrue that 2-3 is necessary to make a judgement on a coaches overall ability.

by NorCal BillsFan on Mar 1, 2010 5:38 PM EST up reply actions  

Just a follow-up though...

If Norv Turner takes the Chargers to the Super Bowl and wins, does that change your mind about him? What if Tom Coughlin takes the Giants back, is he still mediocre. These labels are useless and misleading. Every year is different, a solid team with a solid coach and staff may make it to the SB one year, then that same team (assuming for the sake of an argument that all parts are still intact) fails to make the playoffs. Is that team (Pit for ex) suddenly a poor team with a “mediocre” coach? I don’t think so…at least not IMO.

by NorCal BillsFan on Mar 1, 2010 5:42 PM EST up reply actions  

Im not gonna touch the Gailey subject.......

but so you’re saying you have never ever judged a talent the Bills had before he played one down for the Bills?

Draft or Free Agent?

Because if so you are the first person ever to have loved every coach or every players the Bills have ever brought in.

I have a feeling though…….that you have…….we all do it.

The only cure for a bad today is tomorrow.

by norcaliangelsfan on Mar 1, 2010 7:24 PM EST up reply actions  

Of course I have in regards to players...

but coaches to me are different animals, they have vastly different environments each time they go to a new team. IMO, players dont go through such drastic changes, some things change that adversely affect the players such as scheme, personnel and coaching, but the game they play is still the same. The game is also still the same for coaches, but coaches dont play the game, they coach their players; the players that brought in by the front office (or the owner). The coaches rely more on the organization to help them succeed more than the players do. That is why I don’t hold a coaches previous regime against them as much as others do (especially since it has been almost 15 yrs since the NFL HC’n gig). An easy example: Is it worse to be a coach in Oakland or a player in Oakland?

by NorCal BillsFan on Mar 1, 2010 7:38 PM EST up reply actions  

I follow your point, but I’ll gladly admit I didn’t support the hiring of Gailey. I can absolutely live with Buddy Nix as GM, in particular because he has hired Doug Whaley – a brilliant GM waiting to happen imo.
Gailey was mediocre in Dallas, otherwise he wouldn’t have been fired after two seasons, though you can argue that Jerry Jones was impatient as heck, but an 8-8 record and a 9-7 record doesn’t exactly define more than mediocrity, especially when you have guys like Troy Aikman, Emmitt Smith, Larry Allen, Flozell Adams, Michael Irvin, Darryl Johnston etc. on offense.
At GT, his teams consistently posted 7-5 records, which is again quite average and they never managed to beat Georgia at the bowl games.

"The one commonality in both places (Oakland and Buffalo) is an aging owner who keeps interfering too much. Ralph Wilson continually butts his nose in the football operation and tells the team who to draft"

by BillsfanfromDenmark on Mar 2, 2010 4:26 PM EST up reply actions  

because he has hired Doug Whaley – a brilliant GM waiting to happen imo.

I ask this purely out of curiosity, and with absolutely no strings attached. Did you know who Doug Whaley was when the Bills hired him?

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by Brian Galliford on Mar 2, 2010 6:48 PM EST up reply actions  

I didn’t.

No weekend spent pantsless is a wasted weekend.

by sireric on Mar 2, 2010 7:09 PM EST up reply actions  

I still don't

~K
"As the governor of Louisiana once said, the only way Chris Kelsay can lose his job is if he got caught in bed with a dead girl or a live boy."

by Kurupt on Mar 2, 2010 11:43 PM EST up reply actions  

Yep. I have – true story – a number of family (my uncle, aunt and cousin among other) and friends in Pennsylvania, who have been fans of the Steelers for ages. My cousin, who’s in his late 30’s now, in particular knows a TON about the Steelers and knows Whaley from back in the day when he, too, attended University of Pittsburgh. My point is he had a lot of great things to say about Whaley as a person but also as far as football knowledge. In addition, just from everything I’ve heard and read about the guy, I just like his knowledge and football wisdom at such a young age. Of course, the fact that he has worked with a lot of the best people in the business should help him, too.

"The one commonality in both places (Oakland and Buffalo) is an aging owner who keeps interfering too much. Ralph Wilson continually butts his nose in the football operation and tells the team who to draft"

by BillsfanfromDenmark on Mar 3, 2010 9:49 AM EST up reply actions  

rec'd

although remind me to never get on your bad side sireric. Also second the motion for Brian to be sent to the combine. Last year I would have insisted on it so someone from here could talk some sense into Jauron.

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by pasaluki on Mar 1, 2010 10:47 PM EST reply actions  

A footnote

Sirerec,

I commend you for being passionate enough to take the time to write out such a thoughtful response. Seriously, I do. I know the feeling: Bill Simmons threw Rick Barnes (the Texas Longhorns basketball coach) under the bus one time, and I responded a lot like you did.

With that said, I probably should have included a footnote to that section on Gailey, because honestly, it wasn’t about the Bills at all. “Chan Gailey’s mediocrity” is a running joke amongst a circle of us college football bloggers — no more, no less. I have nothing against the Bills, and wouldn’t pretend for a second to know enough about your squad to seriously proclaim you doomed to mediocrity.

I went to the Combine to chronicle the experience of the event. Not as an NFL analyst, and if that was unclear from the post, I’ll apologize for offending the diehard contingent here.

I’ll only say this in closing: I’m here to respond to those who had something thoughtful to say, thank you for being passionate enough to care, and offer a genuine explanation for what my piece was about.

As for those who just trashed me personally, well… it’s ironic, given what upset you in the first place.

In any case, good luck in the upcoming season. If you draft some Longhorns I’m sure I’ll be dropping in to cheer ’em on.

PB

You ain't hurt...

by Peter Bean on Mar 2, 2010 10:43 PM EST reply actions  

Classy comment

I hope everyone will understand where you were coming from. And please don’t send us another Mike Williams.

~K
"As the governor of Louisiana once said, the only way Chris Kelsay can lose his job is if he got caught in bed with a dead girl or a live boy."

by Kurupt on Mar 2, 2010 11:48 PM EST up reply actions  

Thanks for the comments and as K says, very classy reply. I guess my main beef was that I would have liked to hear something with a little more substance in it. That is what most of us have come to know and love about the different SBNation blogs. Many of us around here feel like our team gets little to no respect, whether or not that is deserved is up for debate. We feel like we have found something here in Rumblings and as an extension SBNation, where our team gets the respect it deserves. Sometimes things like this whether innocent or not tend to touch a nerve, especially coming from a source that most of us have come to think of as a safe haven if you will.

No weekend spent pantsless is a wasted weekend.

by sireric on Mar 3, 2010 2:45 AM EST up reply actions  

thanks for your response

My only question is if you went to the Combine to experience the event instead of analyze it, do you think that might be why the journalists didn’t treat you very well?

I mean no offense but I can see why people might resent “Fear and Loathing in Indianapolis” while they are stuck at boring press conferences taking notes.

This space held in honor of Robert Royal known to his friends as "Sweet Cream Style Corn" March 11 2006- February 26, 2009

by pasaluki on Mar 3, 2010 2:57 AM EST up reply actions  

pasaluki, thanks for writing this.

I guess my impression is this: “Have standards sunk so low that we all think a fantastic reply is one that doesn’t resort to trash talking?” Peter Bean indeed didn’t resort to such low-life comments as many could/would have (or indeed as some did here against him), but he never satisfactorily addressed Eric’s main point (which Eric brought up again in his own reply to PB) – that PB’s comment included little of substance.

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by thefourwinds on Mar 6, 2010 9:32 PM EST up reply actions  

Peter - you were spot on...........

I hope to read more from you in the future.

The only cure for a bad today is tomorrow.

by norcaliangelsfan on Mar 3, 2010 12:53 PM EST up reply actions  

HAHA. Of course you like that line…..

No weekend spent pantsless is a wasted weekend.

by sireric on Mar 3, 2010 1:13 PM EST up reply actions  

:-) yes

The only cure for a bad today is tomorrow.

by norcaliangelsfan on Mar 3, 2010 1:16 PM EST up reply actions  

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