only that I’d take our roster over the Lions. Right now the Lions need 2 corners, 1 safety, 2 LBs, 3 DL, a whole o-line, 1 WR, 1 RB and thats just starters. As much as people may want to get younger at one corner spot or upgrade guys like Kawika or Hang, at least we have capable starters. I think you severely underestimate how terrible the Lions players are. Their record speaks for itself.

And we also at one time had who we believed to be our franchise QB in JP Losman. Matt Stafford hasn’t proven a thing to me yet except that he can be a leader on a team of scrubs and that he can win only two games but somehow look good doing it. He hasnt proven a thing yet.

I just see “Detroit has a better roster than us” and that’s it.

The switch has flipped and I’m wild now – the Detroit fricking Lions ? Maybe our roster (now) is not as good as Detroits when they had Barry Sanders but Detroits roster from 2009 and 2010 – man I better shut up before I type something that gets deleted :-)

Yeah Poz, I agree with you 99 % of the way (not sure Re Bell vs Backus) but with you on everything else !!

I hate that term “GIVE”. A QB might make a couple of bad passes that lead to picks – but as for “giving” 6 picks – come on – our secondary or rush earned zero of those ? REALLY ?

Cutler and Campbell ? What, we had no rush last year ? OK we weren’t the Ravens or Jets, but we had our share of sacks from memory ! Certainly more than the Jags for one example.

The same Trent Edwards – oh he’s the same allright – he had time to find checkdowns vs a bad pass D (Pats) He can still do that. (Not MUCH else – but he can do that)

Yeah I’d trade my left nut for Calvin Johnson if I was Ralph, yes Stafford has the potential to be good – but just potential. Whats he done to win the admiration and “He’ll be a good pro” ?? Evan JP Losman put together 1 very good season – Stafford has not even achieved JP’s levels as yet so I wont count him as a good NFL starter until he shows more.

No 1 overall pick is not enough to warrant calling him good – or even potentially good – lets see a better body of work before we say that. I’m not even sold he’s better than our chaff as yet. Pretty sure every QB looks a lot better with a Calvin Johnson on their side !

After they’ve added their FA’s and even with a year in the book for Stafford – no I still would not take the Lions roster over the Bills. They MIGHT have closed the gap, but we dont know until we see it on the field.

Who knows – maybe our personelle is better suited for a 3-4 than we think ? Remember the Packers stunk the year before last and did not add a LOT of pieces to swithch to the 3-4 – it worked for them when most thought it would not ! Who’s to say our boys won’t fare better in the 3-4 ?

All I’ll concede is that they have a better WR group – because apart from Evans and Calvin J theres basically stuff all on either team – and Calvin obviously is a lot better than Evans.

QB – who knows – not giving Stafford a free and presumed pass. Plus who’s to say we dont draft an equally high touted guy with no experience who’s done nothing yet (to match theirs)
RB – prefer ours.
TE – ok, they get that too – but they are very different kinds of TE.
OL – prefer ours believe it or not. esp the interior.
DL – prefer ours
LB – Sims helps them, so does Peterson – maybe they just get the nod on this.
CB’s – no contest, rather have ours.
Saftey – again, rather have ours than theirs by a long way – even with Delmas.
K & P – they dont even rate a mention compared to ours.
ST- again ours by a long long long way.

So, yeah I’d rather our roster – even now, today, right this minute.

Well, you need a lot of things to throw for 400 yards.

You either need to be a stud – Aka Manning, Brees etc. or you need a good WR and a crud Defence which makes the game an absolute shootout. I dont think our D is bad enough to be in such a shootout.

Oh yeah, playing in a DOME doesn’t hurt either ! Do you think Stafford has a 400 yard game if he plays with Detroits roster at the Ralph for his 8 home games ?

I do know that Edwards and Losman have all had games that made them look good too. Losman vs the Texans when he threw 2 × 83 yarders to Evans in the 1st Qtr and then the game winner late.

Edwards vs KC in 08.

You know the saying re the sun shining on a dogs rear end some days – it can happen. Not seen enough from Stafford to say he’s above that yet.

Sorry, I’m just a “no free pass” kind of guy.

But I’d take our Roster right now.