Schobel to Saints?
by djc1877 on Mar 14, 2010 6:28 PM EDT
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This is purely a speculative idea (I have read nothing on this whatsoever)... however, ESPN reports that the Saints are looking for a DE to replace Charles Grant (released). Let's face it, the Bills are rebuilding and Schobel likely isn't seeing the type of offseason transactions taking place that will encourage him to continue playing (vs. retirement with his family). If you were him and money truly was not a motivating factor, would you come back to a new system and a rebuilding effort when you seem to sincerely miss your family in Texas all season long? If you're honest with yourself, you'll agree with me that beyond self-motivating factors... Schobel isn't likely coming back. Even if for some odd reason he does (he may feel obligated to play out his contract), then it's for one last final season. The Bills are not winning the Super Bowl this year... we can only pray they have a chance at the playoffs (albeit highly unlikely with the AFC East only getting better as a whole). Why not return the favor to Schobel for his terrific career here by trading him closer to home and to the Super Bowl Champion Saints? I have no idea what they could get in return as compensation... I'd like to dream about a 2nd round pick (since the Saints pick last), but in reality they would probably be very fortunate to get a 3rd rounder and probably wouldn't even get a pick that high. Maybe a 4th and 7th? Sounds somewhat reasonable to me, considering the circumstances.
I'm not saying I want Schobel to be gone or that he doesn't have great value to this Bills team, because he certainly does. However, considering the fact that Nix and Gailey have been pretty clear on the fact it will take a few years to get back to where they want to be (asking us fans for patience)... it only seems reasonable to do right by a player who has given as much as Schobel has to this organization and allow him to finish his career closer to his family and with a very solid organization in New Orleans. I wish Schobel the best and feel he deserves such an opportunity.
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Great point...
but he has said publicly that if he returns, he wants to be a Bill. I would take a 4th and 7th.
Sorry but not going to happen.
Simply because Schobel has stated that if he does play it will be for Buffalo and no one else. You have to hand it to the man, he’s loyal to a fault.
The more I see, the less I know.
by CanadianBillsFan on Mar 14, 2010 7:34 PM EDT reply actions
why to a fault?
I think if we’re being honest with ourselves, Aaron Schobel most accurately fits the depiction of the “face of the franchise” during the 2000s. This was his team for a decade, I wouldnt want to play anywhere else either. I dont think its a fault, I think its something to be admired. I wish we had more guys like him at every position.
"you just have to know there's always going to be adversity. None of these games are going to be easy. Nothing will be given to us" - Paul Posluszny
it is an expression poz......it is a compliment
A married man should forget his mistakes. There's no use in two people remembering the same thing!
ah….I took it to be a compliment but also with a negative connotation .
"you just have to know there's always going to be adversity. None of these games are going to be easy. Nothing will be given to us" - Paul Posluszny
There was absolutly no negetive connotation to it.
The more I see, the less I know.
by CanadianBillsFan on Mar 15, 2010 9:34 AM EDT up reply actions
I entirely agree and I love the guy. I really do. He’s been our best player, and our most consistent one over the last decade.
I say honest to a fault because if he wanted to he could have a chance at a championship, but he’d rather stay here. It’s increadibly admirable, and I have even more respect for him for it, but again, he could be going for a championship.
The more I see, the less I know.
by CanadianBillsFan on Mar 15, 2010 9:33 AM EDT up reply actions
Seriously?
You really don’t think he’d accept a deal to the Super Bowl Champions? Really? That’s pretty funny. I know he’s loyal, but he isn’t stupid. You don’t turn down a chance at a title at the end of your career, especially if you haven’t even been to the playoffs. :) Everyone has an opinion, I suppose… only Schobel really knows for sure.
DC Chocolate City!
I would make this move, if he agreed. On a side note......
I think it’s time for him to decide, I mean he’s had 2 1/2 months to think about it. Yes or no, then the FO can plan on getting the position filled. Thanks for your service, but decide already.
I'll stop whining, when I stop caring!
whats the rush?
Yes or no, then the FO can plan on getting the position filled.
Hes only going to play one more season most likely so the FO has to fill the position anyway. Hes earned the right to take as long as he needs.
"you just have to know there's always going to be adversity. None of these games are going to be easy. Nothing will be given to us" - Paul Posluszny
While I really like him, I think he should give ample time to weigh our options.
If he plays, do we really need to address it this year, or can we wait until next. It would help to plan for the draft to know.
I'll stop whining, when I stop caring!
by UtahBillsFan on Mar 14, 2010 8:06 PM EDT up reply actions
well unfortunately
it looks like the FO might be banking on another year of Chris Kelsay at OLB before letting him walk anyway. So I think even Schobel stays or goes, Chris Kelsay was going to be a rotational guy or plan B. Either way, I expect a rookie to be drafted this year to groom for a year at OLB or start if Kelsay is just horrendous and Schobel retires. I see your point though, I just think they are banking on using Kelsay anyway in some capacity.
"you just have to know there's always going to be adversity. None of these games are going to be easy. Nothing will be given to us" - Paul Posluszny
If we can get that late 2nd for him we ca draft an outside linebacker or DE who would probably be a better fit in a 3-4 than Schobel. Also I would suport this because Schobel has been a great Buffalo Bill. Not that he has ever seen the playoffs, or broken any records, but he is one of those guys who goes out and plays his heart out every Sunday to try to win games. I would be fine with trading him closer to home to a great team (that is not a rival). He deserves a shot at the playoffs with a contender.
Hold On
Schobel is on record as saying if he is going to play, he is playing for the Bills and no one else.
That may be true, but...
Johnny Damon also said he’d never leave the Red Sox for the Yankees. Not saying that Schobel is anything like Damon, my point is (as mentioned previously)… if the guy could play on the Super Bowl Champions AND be close to his family, wouldn’t you reconsider if you were him? No offense to us fans, but I’m sure as much as Schobel has an affection for the Bills and/or their fan base… his family is #1, which is the whole point of his situation. He’s not a broken down HOFer trying to squeeze out another year… he’s a guy torn by being so far from his family for nearly half the year. Everyone has an opinion and this is strictly speculation… I am just making the point that the Bills owe it to him after all he’s done to see if this would work for both Schobel and the Saints. I don’t see how any fan could selfishly deny that?
It’s probably not going to happen… but I don’t believe the reason will be because Schobel said he wants to only play for the Bills. I remember a time when Tony Gonzalez said that about finishing his career in Kansas City about a year or so before rumors began to swirl he may be traded and then he was eventually dealt to Atlanta. Gonzo was HUGE to that franchise, definitely not any less than Schobel has been to the Bills.
DC Chocolate City!
Schobel and Williams to the Saints for the 32nd pick.
by Dr. Brackish Okun on Mar 15, 2010 5:45 PM EDT reply actions
Schobel
How about Schobel and a 5th to the Saints for Jermon Bushrod? With Jamaal Brown coming back, Bushrod would be back on the bench in New Orleans. I like Schobel more than most seem to, but I don’t see the logic in playing a veteran in a totally different position when he’s already mulling over retirement. I think he’d go to a team as loaded as New Orleans (top play for the coach that drafted him). I’d love to get Bushrod in here too so that drafting a LT in the first two rounds isn’t a total MUST and even if you end up picking one, Bushrod is better than Cornell Green at RT.
Just say no...to Trent Edwards at QB.
Brown Available... not Bushrod?
For what it’s worth, I’ve read on ESPN Rumors that the Saints would be more likely to trade Brown than they would Bushrod. With Brown being a few years older and owed more money… and Bushrod stepping into the starting role nicely while Brown was hurt. Their post said that Brown may be moved at some point during the offseason. I’d take Brown for Schobel, too.
DC Chocolate City!
Herd the same thing, and herd that he might not be all that expencive either. A third and a fifth might cut it.
The more I see, the less I know.
by CanadianBillsFan on Mar 15, 2010 7:49 PM EDT up reply actions
I say trade him.
I like Schobel, but if he wants to play as close to home as possible, let’s give him what he wants, he has been a good soldier.
There's not a wide receiver who is fast enough, that J.P. Losman can't overthrow him on a fly pattern.
by The Buffalo Kid on Mar 16, 2010 3:24 AM EDT reply actions
Let Him Go
Trade A.Schobel to New Orleans for a fourth is OK.
The we draft A.Ulatoski of Texas and convert him to start at ROG. 6/8 350LBS.
E.Wood has a serious injury, when healthy put him bback at his original position. OC.
OR
Trade A.Schobel to New Orleans with M.Stroud for a first or second and third would nice also. I would even add a future pick to get two picks this year for talent.
Bills Management Wake Up!
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