Buffalo Bills and Tim Tebow need each other

But nice article, SFC.

The Bills will draft Tebow. In the first round. With the #9 pick if necessary (if they are unable to trade down). The Bills know he will not be there at pick #41.

I am still on the fence about a QB early in this draft with the other pressing needs on the roster. But i do get your point about tebow. The only thing that you had that has me wondering is the comment by Belichick. Maybe he is pumping tebow up so other teams take him and leave him and his 800 2nd round picks he has alone. Just a thought, not real serious.

This is one hell of a post though, rec’d. I hate when I am wrong but am never afraid to admit when I am. I do not want Tebow on this team. Picking Clausen or Tebow means one thing and one thing only, that the fan base is willing to cough up an early round pick on something that isn’t expected to help this franchise for at least two years if not longer. So for my money we need to be a little more secure in our choice.

That was a great post and I agree 100 percent.

Excellent article. The point I am hung up on is that you can have the greatest college career (statistically, depending on how you view QB’s) ever but its not just the throwing motion that disturbs me with Tebow. He has never read a defense, and QB’s who play like fullbacks in the NFL dont last long. Not that these arent things that he cant change but when you play your entire career bowling over people and playing the spread the transition to the NFL is all that much harder. I honestly think that Tebow can be successful, not Pro Bowl caliber but successful, in the NFL but it is going to take a VERY long time for him to do it. Add that to the Bills as a franchise dont have the luxury of being able to be patient at the QB position. Just my opinion but still a great article!

I mean, isn’t this the perfect storm of motivation for Tim Tebow?

Nice quote sir. And I for 1 agree with you 100%. I have felt this way since that speech you mention, actually. I said to myself… “now there’s a kid who has the heart and enthusiasm playing the game that I have watching the game.”

but we must make the safe decision this year, Tim Tedbow is not a safe pick

The past few years they have made some reach pics and it has cost us, Nix and Gailey will not make this pick in their 1st draft.

like i said i like him and would like him but he only makes sense if you can get him for a second.

…… I’m not fully on-board, I still have my own ideas on how I want the draft to go, but now I won’t puke if we take him. The guy is a quality young man. I would be happy to take him AFTER our first pick.
That being said, I think/hope Chan can/will develop Brohm/Fitz/Trent into a decent QB if we do not draft one.
But Tebow does get me excited now. Thanks for the post.

I was already on-board with the Bills taking Tebow, but after reading that it makes me want the Bills to take him even more. You do an excellent job pointing out the things that make drafting Tebow a great investment in our future, and do an awesome job at making Tebow worthy of getting picked ANYWHERE in this draft. One thing I’ve been wondering is everybody early on was saying Jax is going to take Tebow with their first round pick because of all the media attention he would give them and possibly save their franchise. However, now many people make it seem like he isn’t even on Jax radar I mean there is no way of knowing for sure when Tebow will go but he still very well could go to Jacksonville which is pick 11. And if Buffalo feels this way and believes he is “Their QB” I wouldn’t be opposed to him being picked at pick 9….what do you think?

Nice post, but are you guys really willing to give up the 9th pick on him? If we add more picks and take him with, say, the 20th, that’s a different story. I wouldn’t panic, Genny st.. Brohm will definitely have a chance to show his stuff, as will TE again. We would still have options no matter what.And no, I wouldn’t do that:)

I agree that the Bills need Tim Tebow… using the idea that since they’re already so entrenched in the culture of losing that only picking a player that bad with a high pick could keep it going in the new regime!

I am not opposed to Tebow in the late first. We should be able to make a deal to get an extra late second or early third for our #9 spot. Tebow would sell a ton of jersey’s and instantly put Buffalo in a winning mind frame, so in a way that’s immediate contribution.

Also, let’s not forget that one of our remaining need positions after QB (LT, OLB, NT) could still be dealt with before or after the draft.

Pressed for time, so I’m tossing this on the front page. Nice piece, SFC. Not sure I’m as gung-ho about it as you, but kudos for the unexpected passion.

…is that the team needs to fit him. If you’re accepting him as your QB, your entire team needs to be modified to support him. I know that you guys are in mostly full rebuilding mode, but Tim Tebow won’t fit any offense- the offense needs to fit him.

Scout out the Eagles offense because, behind McNabb, they’re the most similar to the offense you’ll be having. You need a Westbrook (who, hopefully, doesn’t get injured). You need a Maclin and Jackson. You need a Celek. You need an extremely versatile O-Line. You need option plays to open up lanes for Tebow and whoever you have as a play maker.

Do you have the personnel to make Tebow your starting QB? Are you willing to wait even longer to be in contention? Are you willing to put up with Tebow for 3-4 years if he doesn’t work out? If he doesn’t work out and you’ve changed your offense to fit him, are you willing to sit through another decade as your team switches back to a “regular” offense?

I jumped on awhile ago. Great passionate post SFC. Well written.

“In the end, if the Bills draft Tim Tebow, when Buddy Nix goes to sleep at night (or at 8pm after Matlock because he’s 100 years old… sorry, had to go there!) "

That was awesome but he might be a Sanford and Son type of guy, like my Dad!!

Sign Tim Tebow, #9 pick. Do it, now.

I still dont think Im 100% sold on him being our QB, but you’re doing one hell of a job convincing me. And I agree, if that speech doesnt get you pumped up… you’re dead. He definitely has all the intangables that you want in a player. He never gives up (dont even know if he knows what “giving up” means).

The numbers are great, and honestly who’s to say what mechanics arent going to succeed? All players are different, sure we would all want every QB to be exactly like Peyton, but they arent… All the best had their own style… maybe Tebows will be the next. As much as it pains me to say this, because Im not a big fan of the style of NCAA Football, but the NFL is changing into that spread, fast, new style of football. And who knows, maybe down the road Tebows style will be “Prototypical.”

And everyone, three years later, says “WTF were you thinking?”

This is that moment.

No new QB, with a few exceptions, makes the transition from college to the pros without a few (2) years of growing pains. But is that such an issue if the bills are able to build upon last years ground game? If we keep Marshawn then we have a very good tandem backfield…a situation that gives a rookie qb time to adapt. And as far as a “safe pick” there’s no such thing. I’d imagine Mike Williams was considered a safe pick.

I’m not sold on Tebow as first round talent….. but a lot of what you say in the post reminds me of another BUffalo Bill who had a chip on his shoulder regarding doubts surrounding his ability to be a home run hitter in the big league……..Thurman Thomas. Now, Thurman was much more angry about it, but he went through great pains to make every other team pay for all of the question marks….. I could see Tebow playing with that type (much less angry however) of desire to prove folks wrong. Great post

Where is the Jevan Snead lovefest?!?!?! I demand one!!!

I also had a change of heart on if we should draft Tebow……but I’m starting to think that he won’t last to the 41st pick anymore and we will have to trade back into the late 1st rd to get him

Do any Mock Drafts (fully aware of their lack of reliability) have Tebow going in the first round???

I really think that this may have been one of the better opinion articles I have read on this site. Let me start by saying that I am an Ohio State and I hate the Florida Gators, but i have always respected what Tebow has done. The Bills need to establish a winning culture in their locker room and in my opinion, Tebow is the right person to spearhead that movement. I would have no problem if the Bills “reach” for Tebow in the draft. If we can trade up to get guys like JP Losman and John McCargo, I think we can trade up to get one of the most successful college football players of all time. Everybody knows that Tebow will give you everything that he has got, everyday and if he does not work out, it wont be because of lack of effort. Thats all you can really ask out of a player is to give everything that he has got.

What if we draft Tebow/Clausenn/any other “new franchise QB” and durring the couple years that he sits, Trent Edwards/Brian Brohm become an awesome QB, what then?

So Tebow has this well documented image as being a very religious individual…wouldn’t that be at odds with signing with the Pats due to Belichick’s close relationship with the devil? So what if our RB steals 20 bucks from some woman at a bar…

and if it did happen and I was there I’d be laughing my balls off!

Bravo to you good sir……great post!

Rec’d

I couldn’t agree with you more on so many levels, as a competitor and a QB with heart is something that Buffalo desperately needs. But there still remains so many question marks if Tim Tebow will end up being a poor man’s Michael Vick or some underachieving QB that will never really learn how to run a “conventional” NFL offense. That’s what scares me. Sure Flutie, Vick, Thigpen, etc are nice ideas, but are they guys that will get you a ring one day? I don’t know. I have no doubt Tebow can be successful in this league, but against top NFL defenses with the Money on the line can he really pick them apart and disect them like Brees, Manning, and Brady have? I’m with you, I’m just skeptical, as I should be, bc this is the BIlls after all

I’m so on board with Tebow to Buffalo that it will be a bit of a letdown if it doesn’t happen.

To me, he’s a more athletically gifted version of Flutie, and I LOVE that. I think the team that drafts him needs to see how his natural mechanics translate to the field. If they work, then there’s absolutely no reason to ask him to alter a thing.

If they don’t, he’s already shown the ability to learn.

Your saying if Clausen and tebow are there at 9 we should take tebow? Pure madness. Tebow was put in every position to succeed and clausen was set up for a fall and still led multiple 4th qb comebacks, achieve excellent numbers with no oline, no defense, injured and getting punched out in his own campus town. This kid walks that fine line between cocky and confident and did it with a nation watching his every move.

But to chime in now I will say that I am much more comfortable with the idea of taking him then I was even say 3 months ago….

Nice pic Canadian Bills Fan!! ROLF!!

what happened with the rumblings t-shirt idea?

Remember Richie Lucas. he was supposed to be that great college QB in the 60’s. We were still having separate drafts AFL vs NFL and competing for players. we out bid the NFL team for Lucas who failed at QB and was eventually moved to linebacker

this is nice. i want tebow, but my concern is that he will be gone by the time we pick in the 2nd round. so what must we do to draft him?

I mind as well continue to take his side on one more aspect: comparisons. In this thread alone Tebow is compared with a few guys…here is my take:

Tebow compared to:

Doug Flutie: Flutie won the Heisman as well, but isn’t even close to having the physical abilities (mainly size and arm) that Tebow does. Drafted in the 11th round, if Tebow outperforms his draft position like Flutie outperformed his, we’ll be in good shape.

Tyler Thigpen: Not even a good comparison. Thigpen never lead his college team to any big time victories, wasn’t a top draft pick, ect. I guess the comparison is that if he is put in a system he can be good?

Michael Vick: Now this is a decent comparison, as far as playing style goes. Both QBs can beat you with his arm and his legs. Vick lead V. Tech to some victories. I would say the main difference is in character. I don’t see Tebow ever derailing his career in any way, unless it’s because of an injury from trying too hard! And who’s to say that Vick wasn’t on his way to leading the Falcons to the Super Bowl (pre-arrest of course)? He def lead them to a few playoff games. I think Tebow’s willingness to put in the necessary work and his overall character is what separates him from Vick.

Ken Dorsey: Many have compared Tebow to Dorsey, as if Tebow won’t be a good pro cause Ken Dorsey won a national championship and set records in college but sucked in the NFL. I would argue that Dorsey isn’t on Tebow’s level, even in college. Dorsey had the following weapons on offense with him: Clinton Portis, Andre Johnson, Jeremy Shockey, Najeh Davenport, Frank Gore and Kellen Winsolw II. Not too shabby, huh? Think Dorsey may have benefitted from that team? Plus, scouts still only saw him as a very late round pick, hence his being picked in the 7th round. Tebow, on the other hand, had a much bigger part in leading his Gators to victory. Apart from Percy Harvin and maybe Aaron Hernandez (TE), who else did Tebow play with that is on the same level as those Miami teams?

I guess Alex Smith could be a decent comparison, since him and Tebow both had much succss in Urban Meyer’s systems. But I wouldn’t consider Smith a bust just yet. And Smith didn’t have nearly the success Tebow did while in college.

Is anyone else a good comparison?

i think someone will make a move to draft him in the first round. should the bills make a trade to take him?

i really hope the patriots don’t take him. i hear bellichek loves him too

also remember TERRY BAKER another great QB we got like Lucas who failed. both Lucas and Baker were the great hope for the bills till we stole Jack Kemp for $200 off the waived injured wire. I think Baker was also a Heisman winner.

when i think of tim tebow i think of larry bird, magic johnson, emmit smith, wayne gretzky (and i don’t follow baseball too much to name a player)

as one of the very first “draft tebow in the 2nd round and possibly first round” bandwagon crew, obviously i endorse this peice. i think if the bills are serious about getting tebow, their best strategy would be to trade their second for gaither and then either try to gamble and trade down in the first and pick up ol timmy, orrrrr just take him at 9. that would appease a lot of fans, and still allow the bills to take someone like troupe in the third. glad to see the bandwagon growing and growing and growing….

I finally got the chance to watch Chan’s press conference from yesterday… and boy did his face light up when he started talking about Timmy T. I don’t know if they are going to draft him, but they sure are high on him.

If you haven’t seen it… go to about minute 5. http://www.buffalobills.com/media-lounge/videos/#?id=8ef6c16f-173f-40ef-bd8e-6f8029559c3e

 Obviously no one is listening to what our GM has said from day one. I will refresh your memory. In order for the Bills to be successful we need a STRONG ARMED QB to compensate for the high winds and snow conditions in Buffalo. A QB (Tebow) who passes flutter down the field if he has to make an intermediate to long pass does not fit into the strong armed QB classification. Anything you hear about Tebow from the Bills is nothing more than a smoke screen

Is because he seems like he’s genuinely a nice guy? I respect peope who want Tebow, but the first is just much to high for a guy with that many question marks. I mean it’s great that he’s a nice kid, but being a nice competitive guy just isn’t basis enough to make someone a top 10 pick. And that want to win thing, i think it’s fair to say that every NFL player wants to win. You dont make it to that level without a strong competitive drive.

and rec’d… Took a while to read through the comments… Welcome to the Tebow bandwagon!!! I boarded a while ago myself, after 4 years of despising Tebow, simply because I’m a Gatorhater… Had to make myself study him closer, and pay attention through the pain UF inflicted on my Dawgs…. But now, instead of cheering against him, I actually hope to be able to cheer for him as a Bill…

Tebow is worth trading down for. We have needs in several areas, and an extra pick would sure help.

First off, I appreciate the passionate writing, SFC. And second, I am not anti-Tebow…I would be happy if he were a Buffalo Bill.

But my issue is with the composition of the thesis. You present a good argument why the Bills need Tebow, but you have no real support for Tebow needing the Bills. From what I can pick out from the article, you say Tebow needs a situation where he will overcome doubters. Well, he would have to do that anywhere, on any team. How does Tebow need the Bills more than any other team?

The whole time I read the article, I was waiting to see how Tim Tebow needs the Bills, but I was disappointed. But let me compliment you on a nice piece with a misfit title. Overall, nice opinion article. And you probably didn’t know it was going to be bumped to the front page, I assume.

I’m most definitely in the ‘draft Tebow’ camp. I do have a problem/worry drafting him with our first pick though.
For all the same reasons posted by various other people on the thread.
However, IF Nix and Gailey have positively identified Tebow as their man to take the Bills forward….. Go for it.!
If they do…. They’ll live or die by it, that’s for sure.

It’s amazing how many people were totally against drafting him at the beginning of the season and then how many are for drafting him now.

Does Tebow changing his throwing motion temporarily during a pro day and doing a bunch of interviews on ESPN really change your opinion that much? Are all of you just flabbergasted that Jim Kelly had dinner with him? C’mon guys! Look at the frickin tape! Florida had to change it’s offense because of the fact that Tebow couldn’t run a pro-style offense.

The same relatively unsubstantiated bandwagon approach for wanting to get rid of Trent Edwards is the same approach as bringing in Tebow.

DT & LT or BPA if it is out-of-tilt with our needs. I don’t want Tebow on the team at all, I know a lot of you guys love Tebow, I don’t. And I don’t even think he will ever be a good QB, but that is just my opinion. I like and respect that you put your thoughts down and made a good push for your man though.

Good post(coming from me?) yea that actually made me lighten up(just a bit) to the idea of drafting Tebow. I still wouldn’t waste a 2nd rounder but a 3rd rounder(if he’s there) wouldn’t be awful(i used to be against drafting him 5th round)

(because I think your last post and all subsequent comments will be deleted…we’ll see about this one.)

I wish there was a site that had the great football conversation that Rumblings has…without the censorship. It’s a fine line, b/c to attract new people and advertisers, there needs to be a level of decency and accountability. But you are on to something, because when someone takes the time to read the article and all the comments, and then comments, just to have it disappear, is beyond frustrating. It cheapens the experience of a (supposedly) democratic blog.

It’s just a difficult situation. I don’t know if there is an answer. Censorship is scary, though.

I just had an epiphany. I don’t want Tebow. I don’t want to to hear fan boys talk about how great he is for the next 3 years and that if he actually played we’d be great. Just let him go somewhere else and let’s be done with the Tebow debate.

Homework on Tebow:
According to Nolan Nawrocki of PFW. Upside: Exceptionally tough,rugged competitor.
Downside: Has inconsistent passing mechanics which are difficult to correct: has a slow elongated delivery. Operatedout of a soimplified passing game that seldonrequired working through progressions andoften allows predetermined 1-2 reads to bemade. Is to jittery when he is forced to cycle through his reads and tends to run at the second flash of coverage and force the ball. Tebow is not a natural passer, will require significant development time.
    From USA today: One of the big mysteries of this draft. Leadership and COLLEGE track record would make him a sure top pick. Figures to be a significant development project as a passer because he lacks a great motion and failed to consistently deliver as a thrower. Has little experience taking snaps from under center. His intermediate to deep passes tend to flutter. Also his power running style is not suited for the NFL Yet as a leader he is almost unmatched.Whoever takes him will need patience and creativity.
  With all the needs the Bills have does he sound like a late first or early 2nd round choice that the Bills should gamble on????

I like replies with sound reasoning and proper facts… despite the failure to capitalize letters. You’ve been rec’d, nonetheless. =)