Osgood says Chargers are dumping Jamal Williams - PFT
Chargers WR Kassim Osgood is stating that NT Jamal Williams is going to be cut. Osgood's report has been confirmed. Bills GM Buddy Nix is very familiar with Williams, having spent eight years with him in San Diego. Buffalo needs a NT for their new 3-4 defense. Discuss.
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He only played in 1 game last year, landed on IR, and had a $5M salary with a $1M bonus coming up.
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by Brian Galliford on Mar 4, 2010 4:05 PM EST up reply actions
It helps that apparently...
no one in SD knows what their doing… Note that Sproles wasn’t tendered, but now he is…
I think it’s far more likely that someone got a report wrong than A.J. Smith changed his mind.
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by Brian Galliford on Mar 4, 2010 4:16 PM EST up reply actions
It’s also possible that they’re close to working out a long term deal, making the tender irrelevant.
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I’d guess we’re the odds-on favorite to land Williams given our gaping hole at NT and Nix’s history with him in San Diego.
Reports now, a day later, are that he’ll land back in SD under a new contract.
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by MattRichWarren on Mar 5, 2010 1:20 PM EST up reply actions
ya – he’s getting old though isn’t he? 33 or 34…..might be a good player to plug in for a year or 2 though
We got the tools, We got the talent
34 the week after the draft.
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by Brian Galliford on Mar 4, 2010 4:06 PM EST up reply actions
if healthy – I think he could help us in the short term though. depends on if he’s the same player after the injury
We got the tools, We got the talent
by J2 on Mar 4, 2010 4:08 PM EST up reply actions
Players with his skill set tend to age fairly well, but the injuries are a concern. San Diego’s run defense was pretty poor without him this season.
Agreed, there was a huge drop just watching that defense in the middle last year with out him. Does anyone even know if San Diego has a backup plan with out him?
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Now that they are keeping Sproles, it’s fairly likely they’ll draft a NT high. They had some depth behind Williams last year, but it wasn’t quality depth.
I think that Vaugh Martin is their backup plan. The drafted him in the 4th last year out of Western Ontario University (go Canada!) and played him at DE with the plan being to slowly ease him into the NT position. I might be wrong though because if that was their plan it would have stood to reason that he would have played some snaps at NT last year after Williams’s injury, but he only played rotational DE.
The more I see, the les I know.
by CanadianBillsFan on Mar 4, 2010 7:32 PM EST up reply actions
Well, that tells you something
If Williams is healthy and that valuable to their run defense, they wouldn’t cut him. He’d be worth the Chargers’ money to keep……so buyer beware.
by ccthemovieman on Mar 4, 2010 6:56 PM EST up reply actions
So we sign him and draft his replacement in like the third round and let him develop behind Williams. Sounds like a good plan to me!
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by CanadianBillsFan on Mar 4, 2010 7:29 PM EST up reply actions
If he is healthy
Which is a big if, he would be perfect to bridge the gap to a palyer liike Terrell Troup.
Perfect fit for us
We need an NT baaad, Buddy knows him, we need veteran leadership. Boom. I hope this happens.
Jason Ferguson worked out pretty well for the fish in a similar situation and at his best he was no Jamal Williams for sure.
Get him to Buffalo asap. That’ll hopefully give us a solid one or two-year stopgap at NT and we’ll then draft a guy like Cam Thomas to be molded behind Jamal Williams.
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by BillsfanfromDenmark on Mar 4, 2010 4:24 PM EST reply actions
I'd love a healthy Jamal Williams in buffalo
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by dragonwag0n on Mar 4, 2010 4:25 PM EST via mobile reply actions
Ted Washington
Was right about the same age – If he is recovered from his injury and can get him for the right price, I am all for signing him. Granted, there will be several other teams looking for a Nose Tackle as well.
But Buffalo is a sexy destination
To a guy like Williams…the thought of the best chicken wings on earth might be “sexy”. I would add a “Free Chicken Wings for Life” clause into the contract.
by NorCal BillsFan on Mar 4, 2010 5:50 PM EST up reply actions
Near sexy
That is, near the Sundowner in Niagara Falls…the center of sexy on the Niagara Frontier. Not sure if CanadianBillsFan would care to corroborate.
Seriously, the fans support of the Bills is reaching legendary status, garnering nationwide recognition. Where else can a big sloppy lineman go and feel such love? O.k., but the Sundowner is in Bills Country.
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Intriguing......
If the Bills were able to land someone like Williams for 2-3 years, it sure would help, as many of you have said, in the grooming of a young guy that we might draft. It also might help on a needs basis in the draft. Or should I say, a priority basis?
The other intriguing thing to me is that Osgood might be let go as well? If that is also the case, then why couldn’t the Bills take a chance on him? First, he is one of the best S/T players in the league and 2nd, he is big and could at least fit a 4th wr role possibly. I mean, its not a necessary thing that we would need to sign someone like Osgood but as I said, its a little intriguing to me.
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Osgood is a FA and he said on twitter something along the lines of “there’s a 3% chance I’m back in San Diego next year.” Apparently he was upset that the Chargers didn’t view him as a WR. I think there’s a decent chance we take a long look at him.
Its not like he can't compete as a WR for us too...
The promise of a WR competition and more possible playing time as gotta be appealing, as long as he is still willing to play STs I say target him.
by NorCal BillsFan on Mar 4, 2010 5:51 PM EST up reply actions
I wouldn't view him as a WR either
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This would be a huge pickup. Just what the Bills need to have for a couple of reasons.
a. you pick him up and teams are all of a sudden worried about the Bills taking a player at the top of the first that they might be interested in. This could cascade into a number of things transpiring on draft day as far as trades go.
Allows the Bils a little more freedom in the draft to take a WR or RB in the mid range rounds.
3 i would assume.
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by bflo on Mar 4, 2010 7:33 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
I think 2
With a 3rd guy capable of playing NT and DE….
There’s no real set number for any roster, so it could be 2, 3, or 4….depending on the team.
Myself…I’d sign a vet like Williams and draft a player with high upside at the position, and have Kyle Williams as a player who could play there. I’d add multiple UDFA’s and let them battle for a end of the roster spot, or PS spots….
~K
"As the governor of Louisiana once said, the only way Chris Kelsay can lose his job is if he got caught in bed with a dead girl or a live boy."
I like that idea. Have Kyle Williams in on passing downs mostly… If hes not traded.
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by bflo on Mar 4, 2010 10:48 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
The best non-signing of all last year…
by NorCal BillsFan on Mar 4, 2010 5:52 PM EST up reply actions
So true, as inept as the O was, Coles isn't catching a 98 yarder.
His numbers would have been around 35-45 catches 700-750 yards 2-3 TD’s if that.
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by SouthBuffaloNDgrad on Mar 4, 2010 8:40 PM EST up reply actions
Did I read right that
The Bills are not going to tender Incognito? That must mean that Wood is going to be ready. Gailey did say that Bell and Wood were ahead of schedule.
If we were to get Williams, I think he could be a good fit with our Williams coming in on passing downs for us. Hopefully that would give us 2-3 years to develop a solid NT, instead of having to grab one of the top because we need a guy to start…
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does nix’s connection with san diego mean that we are in for a free agency period of nothing but the chargers’ sloppy seconds?
i’m being a wise ass.
Sadly
I think the Charger’s sloppy seconds are an improvement on our current roster
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Speaking of which, is the Chargers payroll really high? They seem to be dumping a lot of salary.
by Dr. Brackish Okun on Mar 4, 2010 10:16 PM EST up reply actions
I don't think it's too bad...
…. and it doesn’t really matter that much.
Plus, they just tendered Merriman, McNeill, Sproles, and Jackson at the highest level.
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We’ll find out in about 9 hours how likely it is…
by NorCal BillsFan on Mar 4, 2010 5:58 PM EST up reply actions
He was released....
no wait necessary… But we will, as per the usual from the Bills, at least on any announcements….
Any thoughts on who Does actually sign him?
hes too good a potential fit for the Bills to…. so who then?
Kansas City
~K
"As the governor of Louisiana once said, the only way Chris Kelsay can lose his job is if he got caught in bed with a dead girl or a live boy."
Hopefully
We don’t. 12 years is a career. Where in rebuild mode not restoration mode. Well maybe the Bill’s see it different.
I see it as a chance to get a guy who can teach whoever our DT of the future is going to be while playing some quality minutes now…that is of course if we can sign him.
by NorCal BillsFan on Mar 4, 2010 6:48 PM EST up reply actions
True
Leaves me wondering what asst. coaches do? What would it cost us to sign him? If he’s cheap, why not.
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Williams is older and hurt a lot, but....
… Buffalo could platoon J. Williams and Kyle Williams at nose tackle on run and pass downs, respectively, with K. Williams starting at RE on run downs.
Signing Williams would also allow Buffalo the ability to focus on OT early instead of picking a guy like Dan Williams. Or simply allow Nix to focus on BPA, which is the best possible situation.
It also allows Nix to draft J. Williams’ replacement later (Torrell Troup?). Or maybe develop an unknown (Favorite? Harvey?). Pat Williams was an undrafted rookie free agent in 1997.
I’d sign J. Williams if it were me….
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I would hope that platoon
does include a rookie as you mention.
If Jamal Williams were signed, NT might be knocked down a few notches in terms of where it falls on the needs list. I would hope it’s not totally overlooked, and I doubt it would be.
I’d sign him too, and draft an upside NT in the middle to late rounds, AND bring in another couple of undrafted players….
~K
"As the governor of Louisiana once said, the only way Chris Kelsay can lose his job is if he got caught in bed with a dead girl or a live boy."
Yeah, I completely agree
Jamal Williams would be a near-term player that we can get 2-3 years out of. With K. Williams rotating in, I can live with that at NT for a season or two.
The mid-round guy(s) would be future development guys (Troup, Jeff Owens, Linval Joseph). The undrafted guys (Harvey and Favorite types) are attempts at building depth and possibly getting a starter, with any luck.
I would be happy with a starting DL of K. Williams – J.Williams – Stroud, with S. Johnson, mid-round NT, UFA like Nick Eason, and a seventh DL spot filled by an UDRFA or late round prospect.
Quit, don't quit? Noodles, don't noodles? You are too concerned about what was and what will be. There is a saying: yesterday is history, tomorrow is a mystery, but today is a gift. That is why it is called the "present." --Oogway
I think the 3-4 fits Spencer Johnson better than the 4-3 IMO. He could have a pretty good (backup, rotational) season.
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Whens it gonna be Sabres-Offense Time?"
- by Jsz on Mar 3, 2010 6:25 PM PST
I think your right. He seems to me to be a better fit for the 3-4 DE position than the 4-3 DT. And he’s one of few players on this roster that can take up two gaps at the line.
The more I see, the les I know.
by CanadianBillsFan on Mar 4, 2010 10:43 PM EST up reply actions
Agreed
I think Johnson could be one of the biggest surprises this year. He could be a Jarvis Green type situational rusher.
Quit, don't quit? Noodles, don't noodles? You are too concerned about what was and what will be. There is a saying: yesterday is history, tomorrow is a mystery, but today is a gift. That is why it is called the "present." --Oogway
Man wouldn’t that be nice!?
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by CanadianBillsFan on Mar 4, 2010 10:55 PM EST up reply actions
Sign me up.
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Whens it gonna be Sabres-Offense Time?"
- by Jsz on Mar 3, 2010 6:25 PM PST
Absolutely. I just don’t see why Jamal Williams would be willing to come to Buffalo, unless we pay him a lot more than everybody else, which I don’t think we’ll. The same can be said with Larry Foote. These guys are venerable veterans, who have been in the league for quite some time, and who would probably like nothing more than to finish their career competing or preferably winning the SB; suffice to say it’ll take a while before we’re at that stage.
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by BillsfanfromDenmark on Mar 6, 2010 10:47 AM EST up reply actions
Just so you folks know what’s going on tonight:
Kurupt and WABillsfan will be orchestrating an all-night open thread marathon for the start of free agency. If anything Bills-related happens, they’ll have it. If nothing Bills-related happens, they’ll probably be discussing alcoholic beverages, which seems to be a wee-hour norm in these parts.
Either way, Rumblings will be up all night as free agency starts, and if you’re an insomniac, you’ll be right at home here tonight.
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"As the governor of Louisiana once said, the only way Chris Kelsay can lose his job is if he got caught in bed with a dead girl or a live boy."
Haha ive gone back and read some overnight stuff. Pretty funny
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by bflo on Mar 4, 2010 7:36 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
I’ve got a fresh case of Bud and a bottle of scotch ready for the occasion. Been looking forward to it all week long. Not the free-agency, the allniter drinking here ;-)
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by CanadianBillsFan on Mar 4, 2010 7:41 PM EST up reply actions
Already drunk.
Having a great night, watching Rutgers vs. Seton Hall and need the Scarlet to come back from 5 points with 4 min @ home. For ND to secure a top- 8 seed and first day bye in the Big East tourny Rutgers has to win. Last night the UCONN game was sweet, I’m at every ND football-basketball game at home and usually @ Purdue, Mich St, Mich, Marquette and DePaul, whenever I can travel within 4-5 hours I’m going. Go Irish, Beat Marquette. Than I’ll watch this hour long Pam has a baby episode @ 9, pretty pumped an hour of Micheal and Dwight is a great hour. Than I’m staying up at late as possible, see those early FA signings baby. Let tomorow and the FA period be great and executed the right way. We get our first real look at the new regime.
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by SouthBuffaloNDgrad on Mar 4, 2010 8:53 PM EST up reply actions
Haha great opening line.
“already drunk”
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Whens it gonna be Sabres-Offense Time?"
- by Jsz on Mar 3, 2010 6:25 PM PST
Speaking for the open thread, when does it, you know… open?
The more I see, the les I know.
by CanadianBillsFan on Mar 4, 2010 10:43 PM EST up reply actions
In about 5 minutes
~K
"As the governor of Louisiana once said, the only way Chris Kelsay can lose his job is if he got caught in bed with a dead girl or a live boy."
Nice!
The more I see, the les I know.
by CanadianBillsFan on Mar 4, 2010 10:55 PM EST up reply actions
SIGN HIM!!!!!!
Picture a deffensive line of K Williams – J Williams -Stroud We’d be SET and could concentrate on other positions in the draft and maybe even wait until the third round to draft an NT (hoping Troupe or Cam Thomas drop that far) and draft one of the highly touted OLB’s in the second.
SIGN HIM!!!!
The more I see, the les I know.
by CanadianBillsFan on Mar 4, 2010 7:27 PM EST reply actions
If we sign Jamal
I hope we bring in another Williams for the DL….
I’d love a K. Williams——-J. Williams———X. Williams line. Talk about a Williams’ Wall.
~K
"As the governor of Louisiana once said, the only way Chris Kelsay can lose his job is if he got caught in bed with a dead girl or a live boy."
Well that triplet will be much better than Larry Triplett lol
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Whens it gonna be Sabres-Offense Time?"
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by bflo on Mar 4, 2010 7:37 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Lol, maybe draft Dan Williams and turn him into a DE while we groom him for NT.
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by CanadianBillsFan on Mar 4, 2010 7:39 PM EST up reply actions
According to Chris Brown the Chargers didn’t tender Charlie Whitehurst. Did anyone see that anywhere else? I thought he was getting a third round tender.
Here is the link.
Whitehurst was tendered. 3rd round.
~K
"As the governor of Louisiana once said, the only way Chris Kelsay can lose his job is if he got caught in bed with a dead girl or a live boy."
thank God.....hope it is enough to deter CHIX
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they are gunna have a huge day
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Ugh… Of course they do. Just saw they could be looking at Josh Reed. Im sure Belichek would love nothing more than to beat us with Reed scoring a few.
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Whens it gonna be Sabres-Offense Time?"
- by Jsz on Mar 3, 2010 6:25 PM PST
by bflo on Mar 4, 2010 8:40 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
ha
yeah he will be better there
i am so mad we did not tender Cogs, i dont see why we did not it does not cost anything to do so
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Well it costs the amount of the tender...eh?
~K
"As the governor of Louisiana once said, the only way Chris Kelsay can lose his job is if he got caught in bed with a dead girl or a live boy."
I know what you mean.
But im looking at that like they are pretty confident Wood will be back for this season. And that would be awesome news.
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Whens it gonna be Sabres-Offense Time?"
- by Jsz on Mar 3, 2010 6:25 PM PST
I don't think he needs Joshie to beat the Bills, he has it figured out pretty much.
A quote from him " Every season they’re about 10 teams that could contend, the other 20 + teams will just self-destruct themselves and take themselves out of it" – Bill Belichick
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by SouthBuffaloNDgrad on Mar 4, 2010 8:58 PM EST reply actions
That's Jimmy Johnson's quote.
He told that to Belichick.
Quit, don't quit? Noodles, don't noodles? You are too concerned about what was and what will be. There is a saying: yesterday is history, tomorrow is a mystery, but today is a gift. That is why it is called the "present." --Oogway
Nice to know, respect them both but dilike (espc. Jimmie)
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by SouthBuffaloNDgrad on Mar 4, 2010 10:56 PM EST up reply actions
I know he doesnt NEED Josh Reed to beat us.
But dont you think he would love nothing more than to beat us with Reed scoring 2 td’s or something like that. He’s an a-hole lol
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Whens it gonna be Sabres-Offense Time?"
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