Jake Delhomme coming North?
by reed83 on Mar 5, 2010 8:43 AM EST
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He'd be owed $4.16 million in 2010, $5.12 million in 2011 and $3.4 million in 2012, this money is guaranteed to be paid by the Panthers.
Any thoughts that we make a true Southern Connection (nix, gailey, delhomme) and bring Jake to help mentor our young QB (whoever it may be)? I do not know what to think about this, I am just posing the question.With him being paid by the Panthers for the next couple of years (guaranteed money), we wouldn't have to throw huge amounts of money to him. Plus, if reports are true about giving Trent a chance this year maybe Jake can be a mentor. Let me know your thoughts!
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Don't the Panthers get off the hook,
if he signs with another team? Man would this be a bad idea. He’s like Pennington with even less upside.
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by TheAfghanTwilight on Mar 5, 2010 8:54 AM EST reply actions
I knew it.
I knew there would be at least one fan out there that would post this.
NO!!!!!
He’s terrible. And that is being kind.
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I’ve read more than one fan post that giving Trent Edwards another shot would be a good idea, so it’s not the most asinine thing I’ve read on this site…Delhomme makes sense if Buffalo drafts a QB in the first round and lets him sit for a year. He’s not the answer, but he’s unquestionably a better QB than Trent Edwards.
Just say no...to Trent Edwards at QB.
I hate the guy, I’d much prefer to give Edwards another chance.
Nothing left to say... the clock is ticking...
To each his own
I’d much prefer to give Rob Johnson another chance than watch Trent Edwards.
Just say no...to Trent Edwards at QB.
agreed, Trent is the definition of sally, for better terms. He is an absolute coward and joke. I didn’t like him from day one. Although i did have high hopes for Losman, lol. I guess the fact we took him in the first and prayed he pan out had something to do with it. And that he reminded me a little of Flutie cuz he could scramble.
How does Delhomme make more sense than Trent Edwards? Delhomme is a Tommy John guy, one who comes from teh Bayou and who has always played in fairly decent weather. I find his talents to be ill-suited, even if that elbow wasn’t just big league chew.
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by TheAfghanTwilight on Mar 5, 2010 10:28 AM EST up reply actions
Your worried about weather, but not about Trent Edwards’ woeful production, lack of leadership, and subpar talent? My priorities are different.
Just say no...to Trent Edwards at QB.
Well, I personally hope they don’t subscribe to your priorities. =)
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by TheAfghanTwilight on Mar 5, 2010 2:44 PM EST up reply actions
Can’t we all just agree that all our possibilities at qb, be it current players or free agents, suck?
by Dr. Brackish Okun on Mar 5, 2010 6:10 PM EST up reply actions
Yeah
Now the arguement is just how bad they suck!!
by buffalobacker on Mar 5, 2010 6:37 PM EST up reply actions
All of those apply to Delhomme over the last few years, too.
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by MattRichWarren on Mar 6, 2010 11:33 AM EST up reply actions
Brett Favre, not from the Bayou, but sort of close… he does alright in cold weather.
I’m not settled on Southerners playing up North, but I am definitely of the opinion that Californians should not be playing up North.
yeah Pats should release Tom Brady.........
and Green Bay should dump Aaron Rodgers……
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by norcaliangelsfan on Mar 6, 2010 3:26 PM EST up reply actions
Carson Palmer’s another one.
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Yeah, but Carson Palmer stinks
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i'd take Palmer on the bills.
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by norcaliangelsfan on Mar 7, 2010 10:51 AM EST up reply actions
I would too
but that’s only because he’s better than what we’ve had. I just think he’s as overrated as any QB in recent history, and I don’t think he’s very good. He should be a top 3-4 QB every year with the talent he has, yet he totally underwhelms year in, year out….
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Yeah
North vs South, East vs West, WTF It’s football, meant to be played in all conditions. Why does it matter were a players from? What are they gonna do crumble up and die because they played on a different coast.?
by buffalobacker on Mar 6, 2010 4:22 PM EST up reply actions
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by UZ on Mar 5, 2010 4:48 PM EST up reply actions
I’m with you 100%, I’d rather we bring back JP than give Delhomme a shot.
The more I see, the less I know.
by CanadianBillsFan on Mar 5, 2010 6:48 PM EST up reply actions
I'd take Jake, he is much better than any of our QB's
Plus, remember when Warner looked horrible for the Giants and everyone thought he was done? He did pretty well in Arizona. Just cuz the guy had a bad year I wouldn’t count him totally out. I like Jake and would be happy if he played a year or two for us while we searched for our future QB
That comparison is not very fair to Kurt Warner. Granted, Warner has played with much better offenses than Delhomme. On the other hand, Steve Smith made a lot of plays to improve Delhomme’s stats.
uh
much better is a strong assessment. dont care how much you hate the current qb’s, delhomme is not much better than any of them….
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by silverstreak3k on Mar 5, 2010 5:43 PM EST up reply actions
taking a team to the super bowl and almost beating the patriots is yes a lot better than any of our QB’s have and ever will do. The patriots were even cheating then, so thats pretty damn good they almost won. He also took them to the AFC championship game a couple years back too, maybe 2 years ago. The guy isn’t as bad as you think he is. He had a bad year, just like Cutler, but I’d take Jay Cutler or Jake any day over Trent Edwards who CANT PUT MORE THAN 3 POINTS UP AGAINST THE BROWNS!!!! seriously dude, think.
Think
If he’s so good why’s he available?
by buffalobacker on Mar 5, 2010 11:43 PM EST up reply actions
ESPECIALLY after they signed him to that horribly overpriced contract!
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by UZ on Mar 6, 2010 5:06 AM EST up reply actions
seriously dude, think.
That annoyed the hell out of me. kthxbye
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by Brian Galliford on Mar 6, 2010 7:30 AM EST up reply actions
well seriously, calling a guy who took a team to a superbowl not as good as our QB’s is absurd, and sorry if it sounded condescending but the guy was a very good player in this league and may still have enough in the tank to help us win while we search for our QB. I hate people who still are obsessed with Trent Edwards. The guy is horrible and couldn’t put up more than 3 points on the Browns. He gets injured every other play. He should be on dancing with the stars and not the football field.
He took them to the Super Bowl in 2003
Who cares about that at this point?
Did you watch how absolutely pathetic Delhomme has been lately?? He’s literally a walking turnover.
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"As the governor of Louisiana once said, the only way Chris Kelsay can lose his job is if he got caught in bed with a dead girl or a live boy."
Jake Delhomme is far worse than Trent Edwards. He has always made poor decisions and is perennially among the leagues leaders in INTs
in his day.
Oh hey, look, the reason why we don’t want him. He might have been pretty good back in the day, but I’m not about to call up Dante Culpepper because HE used to be good.
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by UZ on Mar 5, 2010 5:34 PM EST up reply actions
well again, Warner was termed done after his bad stint in NY, and look what he did? Not saying Jake could do it like Kurt(especially since ARi is way better than us), but he is a better option right now than any of our QB’s. Even if he was here for 2 years while we groomed someone would be way better than if we groomed someone with Trent Edwards or Fitzy.
So did Jim Kelly but I wouldn’t want him starting for the Bills this season.
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by MattRichWarren on Mar 6, 2010 11:40 AM EST up reply actions
He was decent QB
Until some teams figured out you could put a defender on Steve Smith man on man and run a 2 deep 4 short zone behind that and rush 4.
Then he became an interception machine when teams who figured that out played him.
There's not a wide receiver who is fast enough, that J.P. Losman can't overthrow him on a fly pattern.
by The Buffalo Kid on Mar 7, 2010 2:21 AM EST up reply actions
Also
Fox never adjusted to this by flooding the deep zones, with 4 WRs.
I have also seen the same tactic used against Trent when Mangini was coach of the Jets.
There's not a wide receiver who is fast enough, that J.P. Losman can't overthrow him on a fly pattern.
by The Buffalo Kid on Mar 7, 2010 2:33 AM EST up reply actions
Fox never adjusted to this by flooding the deep zones, with 4 WRs.
Or flooding the deep zones with 3 WRs and a TE
There's not a wide receiver who is fast enough, that J.P. Losman can't overthrow him on a fly pattern.
by The Buffalo Kid on Mar 7, 2010 2:40 AM EST up reply actions
If by North...
…you mean Canada, then that could happen.
Delhomme is beyond terrible. If we want multiple turnovers a game, we might as well run the Wildcat with Jackson 100% of the time.
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by Kurupt on Mar 5, 2010 10:48 AM EST via mobile reply actions
Speaking of Canada – and more accurately, CBF – I noticed the open thread from last night had a few mentions of what the beer du jour was. Have you ever tried Chimay? It’s my newly crowned favorite.
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by Dr. Brackish Okun on Mar 5, 2010 6:07 PM EST up reply actions
DELHOMME/NORTH
i hope you mean north like canada!! the guy is a bum! he is the most over rated starter ever!! interception jake should retire.
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Seriously I wish people would stop bringing up these old washed up retreads at QB. It ain’t gonna happen with this new regime, so get over it.
The Man is garbage
And he’s just as mentally shot Trent as far as I can see
by Circle The Wagon on Mar 5, 2010 2:48 PM EST reply actions
The player might be garbage. Too often, the two things are merged together.
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by Brian Galliford on Mar 5, 2010 3:12 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
Okay as a player delhomme is a shell of his former self
by Circle The Wagon on Mar 5, 2010 4:04 PM EST reply actions
No thank you
Delhomme’s time has passed. I would rather see the Bills draft one of the talented QB’s that will be available in the draft.
Hell, I’d rather see them draft one of the UNtalented QB’s than get Delhomme.
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by UZ on Mar 5, 2010 4:52 PM EST up reply actions
I'm
not too fond of having veterans on the team that have no long-term potential. Way too often coaches will start the vet and keep young guys on the bench because “they’re not ready.” Jauron and Fewell drove me bananas with that crap. The way young players learn is by PLAYING. Sometimes coaches just don’t get that if you go 7-9 starting mediocre veterans you’re worse off than going 4-12 starting youths.
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by ForeignArrow on Mar 5, 2010 4:32 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
I agree with most of your post, except that QBs often do better developing on the bench for a year or two (e.g. Aaron Rodgers).
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He was outplayed by a Buffalo Bills Qb at home last season. Not much more to say about him, is there?
by Dr. Brackish Okun on Mar 5, 2010 6:04 PM EST reply actions
No.
I think you said it best
There's not a wide receiver who is fast enough, that J.P. Losman can't overthrow him on a fly pattern.
by The Buffalo Kid on Mar 6, 2010 2:15 AM EST up reply actions
No.
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by BigEasyBillsKrewe on Mar 6, 2010 12:19 AM EST reply actions
Delhomme
I’ve been thinking about this one.
He looked terrible last year. So bad that you have to question whether or not he can even play anymore. That’s a pretty big fall from being considered a top 10 QB (can’t dispute top 10 at least) just a few years prior.
It wasn’t a tired arm. He came out in the first game completely out of sync – missing throws down the field almost so badly you thought the receiver must have run the wrong route.
My question is – how does that not show up in your camp? I don’t remember how he did in the preseason, but I don’t remember any contraversy going into the season about who the QB was.
If it’s possible to diagnose these things, and if he did something new with his strength and conditioning, or maybe even a change in scene, why wouldn’t you at least bring him into camp?
I think he’s definitely going to be on the sidelines with someone this season. it’s hard for me to come up with a long list of teams that would better suit him than Buffalo – merely from his perspective I mean. He would have a chance to start. He would be a rock star if the Bills actually started winning. He could even pull a “T.O.” and sign a 1-year deal to prove he has something left. I think you’ll see teams clamouring for 1-year deals with an expired CBA,
From Buffalo’s perspective, why wouldn’t you want him as part of a camp QB competition? Wost case scenario he’s holding a clipboard, and he wouldn’t be too expensive for that. Best case scenario he wins a fair and open competition and proves he still has a few years left. You draft a QB or continue to develop one on the roster behind him.
Knee-jerk reaction was “…no, he looked terrible.” But after some thought it’s not really such a terrible idea considering.
If I recall correctly,
He actually did look pretty bad in preseason, picking up from his playoff game against the Cards 2 years ago. The problem was they had put so much money into him, he basically HAD to start.
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by UZ on Mar 6, 2010 5:08 AM EST up reply actions
Maybe
But we would actually need to have a young QB worth mentoring – not sure we have that piece as yet !
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You could argue in favor of waiting until NEXT year before doing so rather than rolling the dice on a 2nd or 3rd rounder this season, in which case Delhomme would certainly not be the worst stop gap available.
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by UZ on Mar 6, 2010 6:45 AM EST up reply actions
I'd rather a 1st round QB this year
But it depends on who is available.
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NO
Thigpen would be a better option than Delhomme. If the Bills have any thoughts of drafting Tebow, Thigpen would be a natural choice and likely cheaper than the Vick as a scheme capable complement. Otherwise, we might as well muddle through with the hacks we’ve got and use a late round flyer on Crompton or UDFA for Kafka then try to get a franchise QB in next years draft. If Skelton slips to round 5, I’d grab him.
Delhomme is of no use to the Bills in any capacity other than maybe practice squad.
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