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Report: Bills interested in WR Kelley Washington

Adam Caplan of FOXSports.com is reporting that the Buffalo Bills have shown interest in unrestricted free agent receiver Kelley Washington.

A six-year veteran, the 30-year-old Washington received interest from the Bills during last year's free agency period before ultimately signing with Baltimore. He had a solid season as a slot receiver, recording career highs in receptions (34) and yards (431) while adding two scores.

With Terrell Owens and Josh Reed no longer with the club, Buffalo lacks experience behind top receiver Lee Evans. Washington proved last year that he can produce, and he'd be solid veteran competition for prospect players such as James Hardy and Steve Johnson. Add in Washington's special teams prowess, and it's not difficult to see why Washington would be an interesting option for Buffalo.

Washington is also receiving interest from the Seattle Seahawks, who lost free agent receiver Nate Burleson to Detroit overnight.

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6ft 3in, nice big target.

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by BillsNYC on Mar 5, 2010 9:39 AM EST reply actions  

This is a signing I wouldnt mind. Seems like a good fit… WR and ST. And like BillsNYC said… hes tall.

Has he always played in the slot?

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Whens it gonna be Sabres-Offense Time?"
- by Jsz on Mar 3, 2010 6:25 PM PST

by bflo on Mar 5, 2010 9:43 AM EST reply actions  

He can do either.

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by Brian Galliford on Mar 5, 2010 9:44 AM EST up reply actions  

Ok, cool thanks.

Makes even more sense now…

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Whens it gonna be Sabres-Offense Time?"
- by Jsz on Mar 3, 2010 6:25 PM PST

by bflo on Mar 5, 2010 9:45 AM EST up reply actions  

Let’s not get overly excited… Where is the Panda now?

I got nothing.

by Jason from OH-IO on Mar 5, 2010 9:45 AM EST up reply actions  

Signed a three year deal in Detroit last offseason.

by MattRichWarren on Mar 5, 2010 9:47 AM EST up reply actions  

That was a rhetorical question I was posing… My point is we have high hopes that we will bring in mediocre receivers and they will translate to something of substance. Washington is “panda part deux”… Count me as one not excited about Washington… A filler spot at best.

I got nothing.

by Jason from OH-IO on Mar 5, 2010 10:54 AM EST up reply actions  

Why is it mandatory that free agency be exciting?

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by Brian Galliford on Mar 5, 2010 11:02 AM EST up reply actions  

Because that along with the draft are the only possiblities to get excited about Bills football for 10+ years… Reality is there are basically no high quality free agents out there, which makes the fact that we did not tender Incognito or try to re-sign Reed even more perplexing.

I got nothing.

by Jason from OH-IO on Mar 5, 2010 12:14 PM EST up reply actions  

which makes the fact that we did not tender Incognito or try to re-sign Reed even more perplexing

you do realize we are in a complete rebuild right?

getting rid of mediocre talent is exactly what a rebuild is about – I cannot fathom how that is even remotely a bad thing for the Bills by not signing those 2 guys.

We got the tools, We got the talent

by J2 on Mar 5, 2010 12:17 PM EST up reply actions  

I completely agree. Is a rookie going to give you as much as a guy like Cogs or Reed? probably not, but the rookie will have that much more upside. We know what we had with those two, and it was easily upgraded over.

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by sireric on Mar 5, 2010 12:24 PM EST up reply actions  

Kelley Washington is 30 years old.

I got nothing.

by Jason from OH-IO on Mar 5, 2010 12:27 PM EST up reply actions  

have we signed him? you know how many rumors there are on opening day of FA?

not only that – he’s a good special teamer – which is very important.

We got the tools, We got the talent

by J2 on Mar 5, 2010 12:28 PM EST up reply actions  

My point is if you are in complete rebuilding why would you be interested in a 30 year old that has never been a proven commodity… Doesn’t add up.

I got nothing.

by Jason from OH-IO on Mar 5, 2010 12:30 PM EST up reply actions  

because we have 2 very young receivers that he might be able to mentor – because we just lost most of our special teams guys after a roster purge……………………….

We got the tools, We got the talent

by J2 on Mar 5, 2010 12:33 PM EST up reply actions  

What has Reed proven? Like I have said before in this thread I honestly don’t want either.

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by sireric on Mar 5, 2010 12:33 PM EST up reply actions  

at least washington plays special teams – that’s about it though.

We got the tools, We got the talent

by J2 on Mar 5, 2010 12:34 PM EST up reply actions  

I guess having a guy who plays special teams AND can contribute at least a little bit in other phases of the game would be a welcome sight……

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by sireric on Mar 5, 2010 12:36 PM EST up reply actions  

washington could be an improvement to Reed, but playing special teams hardly makes him worth signing. We could take an unsigned undrafted unrestricted free agent, put him on the practice field and have a special teamer. we need to focus on upgrading starters, not depth. at least currently… IMO

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by Ren Diggity on Mar 5, 2010 1:18 PM EST up reply actions  

Yes and we need someone to compliment both Johnson and Hardy, and someone who is used to being in a rotation. Hello Washington, a career rotational receiver that we can use as a safety blanket if both Hardy and Johnson stumble.

The more I see, the less I know.

by CanadianBillsFan on Mar 5, 2010 1:36 PM EST up reply actions  

Thats how I see it.

"Its always Miller Time
Whens it gonna be Sabres-Offense Time?"
- by Jsz on Mar 3, 2010 6:25 PM PST

by bflo on Mar 5, 2010 1:50 PM EST up reply actions  

You’re not excited about Washington?

I’ve already begun cutting his key to the city!

by jj24 on Mar 5, 2010 11:18 AM EST up reply actions  

This guy doesnt get excited about anything it seems like. I think Washington would a be pretty good pick up for buffalo. Obviously not the greatest, but how many of “the greatest” picks do teams ever get in free agency year after year? in most cases hardly any.

by gatorempire127 on Mar 5, 2010 11:40 AM EST up reply actions  

in most cases hardly any.

Especially this year. There’s only a few big names to be had, and I’m sure they don’t want to come Buffalo. It’s not like players have been signing left and right, either.

by jj24 on Mar 5, 2010 11:44 AM EST up reply actions  

And just to add...

As a Seahawks fan, im pissed about that Nate Burleson signing. We have worse WRs than KC now.

by gatorempire127 on Mar 5, 2010 11:42 AM EST up reply actions  

KC?

Don’t be so hard on your WR’s. Your group is better than KC’s, and Buffalo’s too…

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by Kurupt on Mar 5, 2010 12:09 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

KC has pretty good WR?!?!?

Dwayne Bowe is a solid #1.

I got nothing.

by Jason from OH-IO on Mar 5, 2010 12:15 PM EST up reply actions  

I said group

After Stonehands Bowe, what exactly are they working with? Porn star Lance Long….

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by Kurupt on Mar 5, 2010 2:33 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

That is a great name….

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by sireric on Mar 5, 2010 2:35 PM EST up reply actions  

I guess.

They are good on paper, but last year they didnt do a whole hell of alot.

 The list of leading receivers goes: 1. Housh 2. Burleson 3.Carlson 4. Branch 5. Forsett (rb) 6. Jones (rb) 7. Griffith (fb)

With Burleson gone were pretty bad. Hopefully we sign B Marshall.

by gatorempire127 on Mar 5, 2010 5:29 PM EST up reply actions  

It could be worse. You could have to watch that group that play for the Browns. Well, I guess even though they didn’t catch a pass against the Bills, they still beat them. Argh. 3 years. 3 losses to the Browns.

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by TheAfghanTwilight on Mar 5, 2010 3:32 PM EST up reply actions  

Well im not saying Im going out to scoop up a Washington Bills jersey… but he is a good fit it seems. And you know we’re not going to trade for Boldin or re-sign TO. And I hope we dont show interest in Coles again… He can play both slot and outside like Brian said. I kind of like it. If nothing else, he can push Hardy and Johnson since they are all about the same size/build.

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Whens it gonna be Sabres-Offense Time?"
- by Jsz on Mar 3, 2010 6:25 PM PST

by bflo on Mar 5, 2010 9:47 AM EST up reply actions  

If Coles didn’t do well with Carson Palmer and Chad to help him out, then there’s no way the Bills should take a 2nd look at him this season. To think most of us here were so upset he passed the team up!

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by TheAfghanTwilight on Mar 5, 2010 10:40 AM EST up reply actions  

needless to say...

I would be very disappointed if we gave Coles a look. Just doesnt have it anymore, IMO.

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Whens it gonna be Sabres-Offense Time?"
- by Jsz on Mar 3, 2010 6:25 PM PST

by bflo on Mar 5, 2010 10:48 AM EST up reply actions  

Let’s not get overly excited…

Well I don’t know about anybody else around here but It would take a lot more then a Kelley Washington signing to get me excited.

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by sireric on Mar 5, 2010 10:01 AM EST up reply actions  

I don’t know. Kelley Washington does sound kinda hot. Might get me excited.

Bill Polian and AJ Smith are gone, so there's not the usual balance between "sane" and "others." Ralph has mentally checked out since 1994. It's a very dangerous time. The coalition for reason is extremely weak.

by thatguy34 on Mar 5, 2010 10:04 AM EST up reply actions  

…..

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by sireric on Mar 5, 2010 12:25 PM EST up reply actions  

(Crickets)?

Kelley Washington sounds like the name of a hot chick.

Bill Polian and AJ Smith are gone, so there's not the usual balance between "sane" and "others." Ralph has mentally checked out since 1994. It's a very dangerous time. The coalition for reason is extremely weak.

by thatguy34 on Mar 5, 2010 12:56 PM EST up reply actions  

Isn't Kelley Washington the man

with the greatest TD celebration in history? The squirrel dance thing he does.

by mob16151 on Mar 5, 2010 1:16 PM EST up reply actions  

I just Youtubed it and now I Want This Guy! haha so funny, I love when athletes have alittle fun out there

by uPitt_BillsFan on Mar 5, 2010 1:42 PM EST up reply actions  

lol

Ill have to youtube it, because I have no idea what youre talkin about…

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Whens it gonna be Sabres-Offense Time?"
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by bflo on Mar 5, 2010 1:50 PM EST up reply actions  

I’ll give you that his name does have a better ring than Janet Reno.

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by TheAfghanTwilight on Mar 5, 2010 3:33 PM EST up reply actions  

Big Target

That is what I have thought about him previously… But unfortunately, this guy has never proven to be a high quality receiver in the NFL… I would like him here, but am not that excited. We NEED top quality talent. I would much rather they tried to re-sign Reed.

I got nothing.

by Jason from OH-IO on Mar 5, 2010 9:45 AM EST reply actions  

Well there’s not really top quality talent out there, is there?

by MattRichWarren on Mar 5, 2010 9:46 AM EST up reply actions  

Wait a minute…

You want top-quality talent, but then go on to say you’d rather they re-sign Reed. Reed is not top-shelf talent. He’s not a bag of earwax, but he’s not a playmaker in their system.

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by TheAfghanTwilight on Mar 5, 2010 10:43 AM EST up reply actions  

I’d prefer Reed over Washington. That was my point.

I got nothing.

by Jason from OH-IO on Mar 5, 2010 10:52 AM EST up reply actions  

Honestly I’m not sure I want either…

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by sireric on Mar 5, 2010 12:26 PM EST up reply actions  

I'm with you on that one

But that is kind of Jason’s point. Why go after a guy when he’s just about the same as the guy you just cut? (And yes, I realize Washington is going to be a little better than Reed because he plays ST too.) But look at it this way.

We need pro-bowl quality players to improve our team. We are going to find very few in FA this year. Is Washington one of them? I doubt it. Is Reed? Definitely not. The next best thing to do then is to build through the draft and let the young guys get a shot. (And I’m sure Evans can mentor any young WR just fine.) Is Johnson or Hardy one? Hopefully they can get on the field this year and we will find out. But it may not happen if you pick Baltimore’s 3rd stringer to absorb some playing time.

by Moose68 on Mar 5, 2010 4:35 PM EST up reply actions  

Washington is not the same reciever as Reed

He plays ST well, and is a decently bigger target. Sounds like an upgrade to me, and the Bills dont have to pick up a 2nd wr necessarily, Hardy and Johnson need a shot.

by uPitt_BillsFan on Mar 5, 2010 11:15 PM EST up reply actions  

They didn’t cut Reed, though. They just didn’t re-sign him.

by MattRichWarren on Mar 6, 2010 8:58 AM EST up reply actions  

I’d prefer Chris Chambers to play the #2 WR and then have Stevie Johnson, or maybe draft Jordan Shipley to play the slot.

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by RIP058 on Mar 5, 2010 9:47 AM EST reply actions  

http://instantrimshot.com/

Bill Polian and AJ Smith are gone, so there's not the usual balance between "sane" and "others." Ralph has mentally checked out since 1994. It's a very dangerous time. The coalition for reason is extremely weak.

by thatguy34 on Mar 5, 2010 9:52 AM EST up reply actions  

Ha Ha!

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by Goose22 on Mar 5, 2010 9:52 AM EST up reply actions  

Ouch.

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by RIP058 on Mar 5, 2010 9:52 AM EST up reply actions  

gotta rec that one

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by Joe P. on Mar 5, 2010 12:22 PM EST up reply actions  

shipley

all the way. i would love for us to get him in the third. or acquire an additional third and use that. there is a ton of depth in this draft and he would be a steal even early in the third. he has 2nd round talent IMO

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by Ren Diggity on Mar 5, 2010 10:44 AM EST up reply actions  

See we shouldn’t be looking for a number 2 guy. We are rebuilding and trying to develop two young receivers that we already have. What we should be looking for is a rotational number 3 guys, and thats what Washington is. The interest on our part makes a lot of sense.

The more I see, the less I know.

by CanadianBillsFan on Mar 5, 2010 1:38 PM EST up reply actions   2 recs

I agree CBF. The team already has enough guys that play like a #2.

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by TheAfghanTwilight on Mar 5, 2010 3:34 PM EST up reply actions  

Buffalo Bills fans from Alabama, solid move.

A veteran recevier that can help out, and then draft a wide recevier like Damian Williams or Demariyus Thomas.

by Trojans3 on Mar 5, 2010 9:52 AM EST reply actions  

Washington

Somebody at OBD loves this guy…it seems like he’s been mentioned as a pssibility for the Bills for four consecutive offseasons or so. In all honesty, I really want to just give James Hardy 16 games to see if he shows anything and I’d like to see Steve Johnson get a long look in the slot. I guess Washington makes sense as insurance for both of these major gambles and even if Hardy and Johnson BOTH come through, Washington is a noted special teams performer…all and all, I’d prefer a younger veteran as the competition for our current youngsters.

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by Port Royal on Mar 5, 2010 9:53 AM EST reply actions  

Eh, could do worse

This wouldn’t be an exciting pickup, but it makes sense. He might be the best veteran WR we can come by.

It sure would be nice if Hardy and Johnson panned out, but it just seems hard to envision that at this point….

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by Kurupt on Mar 5, 2010 10:00 AM EST reply actions  

????

What is it about Washington that teams want him? He has been on 3 teams since 2003 with a 107 receptions—his best year was last year with 34 receptions. Reminds me of how teams keep going after Donte Stallworth.

What about Antwaan Randle El as a possible addition, a decent receiver and punt returner in the event that Rosco is shown the door?

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by Goose22 on Mar 5, 2010 10:12 AM EST reply actions  

What is it about Washington that teams want him

He’s a big target, not a number 1 or 2 receiver but can provide some size in the red zone for teams to have to pay attention to. But mainly he’s a very good special teams player and with the Bills releasing a lot of key special teamers and the need at receiver it can’t hurt to go after this guy. Plus he won’t cost too much.

by Gesome77 on Mar 5, 2010 10:22 AM EST up reply actions  

Randle El’s hands are worst than TO’s, he’s a gimmick guy. The reason that he didn’t pan out in Washington is that they didn’t use him in any gimmicks.

The more I see, the less I know.

by CanadianBillsFan on Mar 5, 2010 1:40 PM EST up reply actions  

Speaking of Receivers------A Good sign!!

Off Topic but it is a good sign….

Hardy selected as Bills Ed Block Courage Award recipient

The Ed Block Courage Award is presented to the Buffalo Bills player who exemplifies a commitment to the principles of sportsmanship and courage. The recipient symbolizes professionalism, great strength, dedication and serves as a community role model for others.

Off the field, Hardy has given a lot of his time to charitable endeavors in both the Buffalo community and his native hometown of Fort Wayne, IN. In 2008, Hardy along Bills S Donte Whitner volunteered their time Buffalo Bills United Way of Buffalo and Erie County Hometown Huddle at Southside Elementary School, participated in the announcement of 12,000 cans of Campbell’s Chunky Soup courtesy of Buffalo Bills fans everywhere being donated to the Food Bank of WNY, and appeared at the Bills and American Red Cross Blood drive. Hardy also created the "Homework with Hardy" program with the United Way to support after school programs, encourage academic progress, and provide a safe learning environment.

In his hometown of Fort Wayne, IN, Hardy hosted the his first 3-on-3 basketball tournament on June 13, 2008 in honor of James Hardy Day. The community event included a cookout following the tournament in McMillen Park in Fort Wayne. Hardy also organizes turkey drives during Thanksgiving and toy drives during Christmas for the community in Fort Wayne.

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by Goose22 on Mar 5, 2010 10:20 AM EST reply actions  

What should we be looking for at WR.

IMO someone that will compete for the #2 or #3 WR spot. Anyone else will push Hardy and Johnson back another year. We need to find their true value going forward. If the guy can catch the ball within a three foot circle around him, then he definately deserves a look.

This is like dumping a new puzzle from it's box. Now let's start putting the peices together. I guess this is what we all asked for.

by VanScottM on Mar 5, 2010 10:34 AM EST reply actions  

I’m more interested in signing Tanner. He’s got a lot of scrap in him, that kid.

by jj24 on Mar 5, 2010 10:38 AM EST reply actions  

Mouth like a truck driver too…

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by sireric on Mar 5, 2010 12:27 PM EST up reply actions  

Has played catch with Fitzpatrick in the past as well.

This is like dumping a new puzzle from it's box. Now let's start putting the peices together. I guess this is what we all asked for.

by VanScottM on Mar 5, 2010 10:39 AM EST reply actions  

So did the ground in front of Evans

That didn’t help chemistry either!!!

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by Kurupt on Mar 5, 2010 10:46 AM EST via mobile up reply actions   3 recs

that's funny

well, no it isn’t. but it is certainly true, and incredibly valid. IMO

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by Ren Diggity on Mar 5, 2010 10:49 AM EST up reply actions  

I’ll rec to that!

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by sireric on Mar 5, 2010 12:27 PM EST up reply actions  

Probably not as high a number as you’d think. The team wasn’t on offense all that much, especially at home.

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by TheAfghanTwilight on Mar 5, 2010 3:55 PM EST up reply actions  

They stunk worse than a septic tank cleaner.

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by TheAfghanTwilight on Mar 5, 2010 4:20 PM EST up reply actions  

Why are teams less desperate than us doing so much more

we should make a move for Dansby and Cromartie

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by billsoferie on Mar 5, 2010 11:06 AM EST reply actions  

well Should have on Cromartie

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by billsoferie on Mar 5, 2010 11:07 AM EST up reply actions  

We’re not desperate. We’re literally on Day 1 of a complete re-build.

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by Brian Galliford on Mar 5, 2010 11:08 AM EST up reply actions  

We’re literally on Day 1 of a complete re-build.

Fans are clamoring for more materials to build with, right now. You can’t blame them, really. We’re trying to build a house, and all we have are a few hammers, a box of lightbulbs, and a toilet. We’re still waiting for the concrete we poured last year(the rookies) to settle. It could still crack, and we’ll have to start all over. Also, we trying to build a house using someone’s else’s plans(switch from 4-3 to 3-4). So……..we’re hoping the building contractor can give up some signs of hope, I guess.

I’m willing to be patient.

by jj24 on Mar 5, 2010 11:35 AM EST up reply actions  

Day #1 on complete rebuild should include the firing of Tom Modrack! Funny how that guy is still around during a “COMPLETE” rebuilding.

I will beleive it when I see it… Also why did they tender Ellison? How does he fit in the 3-4? Of course they just used a 6th rounder, maybe as bait.

Just not looking forward to this season… No starting QB, No #2 WR, No starting OTs, A mess at OLB, No NT, No quality FA’s out there… Outlook is pretty dismal.

We NEED a big splash… I say let’s go get Vick, he makes the most sense… Solves a gaping hole and means we can focus on other needs in the draft.

C’mon OBD, lets do SOMETHING (Washington really doesn’t = something).

I got nothing.

by Jason from OH-IO on Mar 5, 2010 12:21 PM EST up reply actions  

Day #1 on complete rebuild should include the firing of Tom Modrack! Funny how that guy is still around during a "COMPLETE" rebuilding.

you can’t fire the guy that’s scouted all the players for the draft before the draft – how else would they get that information? he’ll be fired after the draft if anything – again – patience.

We NEED a big splash

care to elaborate? because we have so many holes that I think a splash (tons of money) is the last thing we need to do at this point.

We got the tools, We got the talent

by J2 on Mar 5, 2010 12:24 PM EST up reply actions  

Nix has been with the Bills for over a year now… No need for Modrack.

Big Splash = Vick

I got nothing.

by Jason from OH-IO on Mar 5, 2010 12:28 PM EST up reply actions  

Do you know what areas Nix has been in charge of? Modrack has been running the scouting for the draft – you can’t fire the guy….yet – patience patience patience

We got the tools, We got the talent

by J2 on Mar 5, 2010 12:29 PM EST up reply actions  

Vick is a horrible idea…

by NorCal BillsFan on Mar 5, 2010 6:09 PM EST up reply actions  

Modrak is a talent evaluator. He’s done a good job with the Steelers and in Buffalo. The guys that picked the talent, not so much.

by MattRichWarren on Mar 5, 2010 1:32 PM EST up reply actions  

Oh I am done with this.. You guys will defend anyone at OBD with reckless abandon. Seriously are you going to try to tell me Modrack had nothing to do with the current state of the Bills!!!

I got nothing.

by Jason from OH-IO on Mar 5, 2010 2:45 PM EST up reply actions  

lol.........

its okay…………we can be hated together my friend. :-)

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by norcaliangelsfan on Mar 5, 2010 2:54 PM EST up reply actions  

I’m sure Modrak should shoulder his share of blame. I won’t defend him.

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by sireric on Mar 5, 2010 2:56 PM EST up reply actions  

LOL. Yes – Matt’s striving for accuracy is reckless abandonment on his part.

Seriously are you going to try to tell me Modrack had nothing to do with the current state of the Bills!!!

Putting words in his mouth, much?

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by Brian Galliford on Mar 5, 2010 3:09 PM EST up reply actions  

Modrak is a talent evaluator. He’s done a good job with the Steelers and in Buffalo. The guys that picked the talent, not so much.

That is what he said! Summary = Modrack did a good job at evaluating talent, but that didn’t translate into whom the Bills drafted.

C’mon Brian… MRW was trying to releive Modrack of responsibility for the current state of the roster, when the blame partly falls square on his shoulders.

I got nothing.

by Jason from OH-IO on Mar 5, 2010 4:23 PM EST up reply actions  

the blame partly falls square on his shoulders.

(Tim Allen grunt)?

MRW was placing blame on the picks.

I think Modrak should be fired too, but if we did or do, all of the work he has done this year on the college front is gone. Either, we use his work for this draft and suck it up, or we fire him and draft basically blind. Not exactly what I think Nix and Gailey want to do in there first year here. I suspect he will be let go sometime in June in order for Nix and Whaley to get the guy they want.

by BillsfanDan on Mar 5, 2010 4:34 PM EST up reply actions  

take this example

Modrak says the BPA on the board as our pick comes up is Ngata. DJ et al say no, no we want Whitner (DB fettish). If Modrak has NO voting power, is it HIS fault we took Whitner? All he can do is evaluate.
We aren’t privy to the behinfd the scenes haggling, but, Modrak’s been doing this a long time. If he were that big a screw up, he wouldn’t have been around this long.

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by fansince60 on Mar 5, 2010 4:45 PM EST up reply actions  

duely noted

But on the same token, maybe he did have Whitner rated that high. But I digress.

 I felt like Modrak and Guy were always on the same level and went hand in hand. RW wasnt going to fire his right hand man in Brandon, and Brandon isnt going to fire himself, so the blame has to be shifted to Modrak and Guy and DJ et al. And you obviously cant fire the man in January after all his notes are taken on the college kids.

For example, if your car is a POS and starts to break down on the way home, your still gonna drive it to your place to finish getting home. You still need it to finish what it started. And your sure as heck not going to stop into the nearest dealer and buy a new one.

by BillsfanDan on Mar 5, 2010 4:55 PM EST up reply actions  

Modrak has done a solid job scouting…Byrd, Wood, Levitre, Williams, Butler, and many others are good examples of the players that Modrak has found.

by NorCal BillsFan on Mar 5, 2010 6:12 PM EST up reply actions  

Just because some guys are good on our team doesn’t necessarily mean they are good overall. You named 3 guys from last years draft and a rotational T. Williams was good scouting i’ll give you that. I’m not saying you’re wrong but this team has been bad for a reason. I’d say 65% due to the fact that the Bills lack the talent to be a good team. There are a couple of talented players no doubt, but on an overall account, this team is made up largely of guys who are just not good enough to compete against our division.

And I don’t necessarily think Modrak is a “POS” or has done a poor job. My point is with the housecleaning. If Nix wants to put his stamp on this team (and it clearly looks that he is) I think he will want his own guy in that position. If he deems Modrak acceptable I won’t be pissed.

by BillsfanDan on Mar 5, 2010 10:20 PM EST up reply actions  

That’s pretty much what I was trying to say. Modrak was never the decision maker on those early round picks. He was under Donahoe and Levy and Jauron on those decision making teams.

by MattRichWarren on Mar 6, 2010 9:04 AM EST up reply actions  

I’m not entirely sure what you want.

Besides wanting to complain as much as possible, obviously.

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by UZ on Mar 5, 2010 4:59 PM EST up reply actions  

No, MRW is trying to relieve Modrak of ALL responsibility.

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by Brian Galliford on Mar 5, 2010 5:14 PM EST up reply actions  

Modrak

Isn’t the Boogeyman. No matter how much some Bill’s fan’s would like him to be.

by mob16151 on Mar 5, 2010 9:23 PM EST up reply actions  

Hello?

Oh. Nevermind…

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by Bogeyman on Mar 7, 2010 3:20 PM EST up reply actions  

Hey… if you want me to listen to your opinions, listen to mine. Modrak writes scouting reports. Brad Butler, Kyle Williams, Jason Peters, Jairus Byrd, Eric Wood, Andy Levitre, Marshawn Lynch, Poz – all the guys the Bills have drafted since Modrak was hired should be taken into account and more weight given to the later round picks when a scout like Modrak can say, “hey let’s take a flier on this guy I really like.” I’m not saying he’s innocent on the Losmans and other busts I think he gets more crap then he deserves.

by MattRichWarren on Mar 6, 2010 9:02 AM EST up reply actions  

We've been told not to expect a big name FA.

Maybe not in those exact words but our rebuilding will be through the draft and won’t take form for at least a couple years. This doesn’t mean we will not entertain big name FA’s but it is very unlikely that it will happen. I am expecting to see more names like Kelly Washington discussed this year over the Dansby, Taylor, Peppers etc….. while others discuss the inadequacies of our current Roster this is the very first step in the rebuilding an it is to be expected.

This is like dumping a new puzzle from it's box. Now let's start putting the peices together. I guess this is what we all asked for.

by VanScottM on Mar 5, 2010 11:25 AM EST up reply actions  

Actually, it basically WAS in those exact words. Nix said it himself, he does NOT build teams through free agency!

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by UZ on Mar 5, 2010 5:00 PM EST up reply actions  

Why would we want someone elses trash?

Kelley Washington has averaged less than 2 receptions per game in 69 starts with a whopping 11 TDs. He is complete garbage! There’s a reason he keeps bouncing around.

I realize that we won’t go for any of the big names so why not go for someone like Kassim Osgood, who is a monster sized WR (6’5" 220lbs) and he is extremely good on Special Teams. We need ST players and this guy is truly top notch. Being on a team with guys like Floyd & Jackson and then a TE like Gates makes it difficult to get any playing time. I think this guy would fit the big target we are looking for, provide WR depth and really help on STs. He’s be cheap too.

Nothing left to say... the clock is ticking...

by keysh67 on Mar 5, 2010 11:39 AM EST reply actions   1 recs

Osgood’s stats are not overwhelming either. Also, Osgood has quite the personality on him, it might not mesh with One Bills Drive. I believe this would be a good move for two reasons. Firstly, he is a capable veteran who can play your Y,Z or slot role in a pinch. Also, it is hard to learn the wide receiver position over night. Generally speaking receivers take a few years to truly learn route running, and coverage adjustments so it is likely Kelly Washington will be brought in to mentor the younger players. Throwing Hardy and Scuba Steve out there before they are ready ( remember they are both very young still) and seeing “what they got” is not likely to succeed with the Bills’ current personnel.

Later Losman!

by rockybillboa on Mar 5, 2010 11:47 AM EST up reply actions  

The point is everyone we talk with will be someone elses trash.

Obviously, if they are available then the offering team is somewhat not interested. Osgood could very well be a target, who knows. I am not clamoring for Kelly Washington. He was drafted by Cincinnati and was there behind Ocho and Houshman and Henry, and practiced alot with Ryan Fitzpatrick, and he was an interest up in New England. My only point is if the ground doesn’t get in the way of Ryan’s passes he is worth looking at.

This is like dumping a new puzzle from it's box. Now let's start putting the peices together. I guess this is what we all asked for.

by VanScottM on Mar 5, 2010 11:49 AM EST up reply actions  

Osgood is in Jacksonville today. And Osgood has fewer CAREER receptions than Washington had last season. Seriously?

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by Brian Galliford on Mar 5, 2010 11:51 AM EST up reply actions  

And Osgood’s QB was Phillip Rivers not some schlub.

by MattRichWarren on Mar 5, 2010 1:33 PM EST up reply actions  

I'm confused

Are you saying Joe Flacco is a scrub? I’m lost.

by mob16151 on Mar 5, 2010 1:53 PM EST up reply actions  

I believe the word was “schlub.”

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by Brian Galliford on Mar 5, 2010 2:06 PM EST up reply actions  

Good flick...

Adam Sandler as Paul ‘Wrecking’ Crewe in ‘The Longest Yard’ remake…Not quite as good as the original, in my opinion, but still fun to watch anyway.

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by Bogeyman on Mar 7, 2010 3:26 PM EST up reply actions  

I have a feeling he was thinking "Mr Deeds"

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by Kurupt on Mar 7, 2010 9:37 PM EST up reply actions  

Yup.

“Now it’s time for this poor schlub to know what it’s like to fall in love.”

by MattRichWarren on Mar 8, 2010 8:03 AM EST up reply actions  

No. Sorry. :-)

Just saying Osgood had a food QB and he still couldn’t get his catches.

by MattRichWarren on Mar 5, 2010 2:06 PM EST up reply actions  

GOOD qb. holy crap, Matt, get it together.

by MattRichWarren on Mar 5, 2010 2:07 PM EST up reply actions  

Alright I got ya

I’m no longer wanderinlg lost and alone through the discussion.

by mob16151 on Mar 5, 2010 2:25 PM EST up reply actions  

Being on a team with guys like Floyd & Jackson and then a TE like Gates makes it difficult to get any playing time.

The same could be said for Washington. He was behind Joshson (Ocho), Housh and Chris Henry…

And Washington is also a tall receiver with ST playing abilities

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by bflo on Mar 5, 2010 11:54 AM EST up reply actions  

**Johnson (Ocho)

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Whens it gonna be Sabres-Offense Time?"
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by bflo on Mar 5, 2010 11:54 AM EST up reply actions  

Contradict yourself much there, keysh??

You talk about Washington being a pile of steaming hot garbage, yet suggest going after a scrub like Osgood???? Osgood is a good ST player, but so is Washington, and Washington has actually done something on the offensive side of the ball.

Osgood was in SD before guys like Jackson and Floyd, so if he was any kind of WR prospect, don’t you think he would have gotten his chances??

Where are you seeing 69 starts for Washington?? Where has he ever been a starter?

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by Kurupt on Mar 5, 2010 12:41 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

My bad

I quickly responded and took my stats from two different places, my bad.
Washington has dressed for 83 games and started 6 and Osgood has dressed for 101 and started 12.

I’ll admit that Osgood is a worse option at WR but I think he’s much better on ST, he is better than anyone we currently have on our roster. He has 84 tackles in his career so far on ST, he averages 12-16 per year. Washington is not in the same zip code with approx 3 per year.

Where I think Osgood is superior to Washington is in the run-blocking area but unfortunately there are no stats on that.

Honestly, both are very average to crappy receivers. The only reason why Washington gets consideration is because of his size. What I don’t like about him is they say the guy has bad work ethic and I believe it because he keeps moving from team to team. Osgood on the other hand, has been with the same team since the beginning of his career, I think that’s another positive in his favor. He is a taller target, more aggressive and a fantastic Special Teamer. So if we are looking for veteran depth, I like Osgood more. If we are looking for a quality slot receiver, then I think we can do better than both of these guys.

Nothing left to say... the clock is ticking...

by keysh67 on Mar 5, 2010 2:59 PM EST up reply actions  

Osgood

Reminds me of Sam Aiken……..

by mob16151 on Mar 5, 2010 9:24 PM EST up reply actions  

Player / Rec / Yds / Avg / Lng / TD

Reed / 311 / 3,575 / 11.5 / 52 / 10
Washington / 107 / 1,327 / 12.4 / 51 / 11
Osgood / 33 / 647 / 19.6 / 65 / 4

Reed has one more year in the league than the other two. None are exactly awe-inspiring. I guess Washington makes a decent 3rd/4th option, if that’s what you want. Osgood has a high YPC, but I wonder if that really just means he’s a gadget guy. I think this ultimately means that we’re gonna rely on Johnson or Hardy to step up to the #2 spot if this is the only WR we look at.

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by WhyBillsWhy on Mar 6, 2010 1:19 PM EST up reply actions  

I doubt he’s a gadget guy at 6’5" 220lbs
I think he’s more involve in the run-blocking game and get’s ignored sometimes and then gets real open downfield.

Nothing left to say... the clock is ticking...

by keysh67 on Mar 6, 2010 1:29 PM EST up reply actions  

Fair point. But with 33 catches in 7 years, that can’t happen too often, can it?

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by WhyBillsWhy on Mar 6, 2010 2:28 PM EST up reply actions  

Quite Pleased

I was happy when I woke up this morning to see that we didn’t sign anyone. Other than Peppers, Dansby, Pennington and maybe one or 2 other guys I just don’t see the need for Buffalo to be big spenders in FA.

Building through the draft is the best thing we can do in Buffalo. I think most of the FA guys we pick up are going to be 2nd tier to plug holes.

No need to get all up in arms over not signing someone – this rebuilding project has just started. Let’s let Nix do his thing over the next few weeks and more importantly come draft time – the undrafted FA’s will be important for plugging other holes.

We got the tools, We got the talent

by J2 on Mar 5, 2010 12:10 PM EST reply actions  

C’mon, this is the perennial statement by OBD… We build through the draft. Hasn’t worked for 10 years, not optimistic it will work this year… Of cours most you guys have written this year off anyways.

This team will struggle as long as Ralph Wilson is the owner.

I got nothing.

by Jason from OH-IO on Mar 5, 2010 12:23 PM EST up reply actions  

C’mon, this is the perennial statement by OBD

serioulsy??

wow – we’ve made some big splashes for sure – at least at the time they were considered big splashes.

Walker, Dockery, Spikes, Mitchell, TO – i know there’s more but you cannot say with a straight face that the Bills have not made a big splash in FA.

We got the tools, We got the talent

by J2 on Mar 5, 2010 12:27 PM EST up reply actions  

my point is, we have screwed up in other ways… Poor FA signing (Walker/Dockery), poor draft picks, not retaining quality young talent, etc.

I got nothing.

by Jason from OH-IO on Mar 5, 2010 12:29 PM EST up reply actions  

You want the Bills to dump money in FA just to make a splash, but then you use examples of when they did it in the past (Walker/Dockery) to point out their screw ups. Seems like you are asking them to do something just so you can bitch about it later…..

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by sireric on Mar 5, 2010 12:32 PM EST up reply actions   2 recs

I was just about to respond with what you just said. It was very contradictory…

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by bflo on Mar 5, 2010 12:33 PM EST up reply actions  

if that was your point then why didn’t you just say it?

every team builds through the draft – we’ve splashed in FA over the last few years and that’s a fact. This year is different because we’re not in fake rebuild mode like when Levy took over – we’re in for real build mode which is spearheaded by a guy that seems to know what he’s doing.

everything in the front office has changed – NIx is in charge – i recommend you let him build the team his way instead of bashing the guy without knowing his play or how it’s going to work out

We got the tools, We got the talent

by J2 on Mar 5, 2010 12:32 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

everything in the front office has changed

Nope, very little, Nix has been here over a year now… Modrack is still here… Russ is still around… More importantly Ralph Wilson is still the king and executor of all things relevant.

I got nothing.

by Jason from OH-IO on Mar 5, 2010 2:49 PM EST up reply actions  

well if you can’t see that there has been large amounts of change then this discussion cannot go furthur

We got the tools, We got the talent

by J2 on Mar 5, 2010 2:59 PM EST up reply actions  

Yeah,
- Brandon is there, but is no longer GM and is in a position that is better suited for his skills.

- Nix is now GM

 - John Guy is gone and Whaley is now on board

Those are 3 pretty big changes. Is it enough? Maybe not, but then who says they are done?

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by sireric on Mar 5, 2010 3:02 PM EST up reply actions  

I’ll add that the circle is now gone

so is DJ and Co. – they were large decision makers.

We got the tools, We got the talent

by J2 on Mar 5, 2010 3:33 PM EST up reply actions  

In some respects I agree, but people keep talking about a “COMPLETE” overhaul… That simply is not the case, we have done a lot of re-shuffling of parts… In I have no reason to beleive the “circle of trust” is a thing of the past until proven otherwise.

I got nothing.

by Jason from OH-IO on Mar 5, 2010 4:29 PM EST up reply actions  

but people keep talking about a "COMPLETE" overhaul…

well I don’t know who said complete – but let’s just look at this for a second.

We use to look like this.

Brandon – DJ/Modrak/Guy with DJ/Modrak/Guy essentially making most of the calls.

now

Brandon – Nix – Whaley – Gailey – Modrak.

Please Kaiser/Brian/K – fix it not right.

there is a clear shift in how this organization is run.

Brandon is now a CEO in that he really doesn’t do much in the football operations.

Nix, Whaley and Gailey are really the focal point of this team with Nix having the final say in personnel decisions.

I think the structure really couldn’t have changed much more. This team now looks, in the front office, like other teams.

We got the tools, We got the talent

by J2 on Mar 5, 2010 4:36 PM EST up reply actions  

In I have no reason to beleive the "circle of trust" is a thing of the past until proven otherwise

well – you HAVE been told other wise

http://www.buffalorumblings.com/2010/2/25/1325353/regime-change-brings-opportunity

http://www.buffalorumblings.com/2010/2/4/1292342/brandon-the-key-to-bills-front

http://www.buffalorumblings.com/2010/2/3/1291150/report-bills-offer-assistant-gm

(see how I linked to BR Brian? :-) )

We got the tools, We got the talent

by J2 on Mar 5, 2010 4:39 PM EST up reply actions  

Ummm I dont wanna seem ignorant here

But a real rebuild can’t really take place till the second offseason. The new regime need’s a chance to see what players they have that are worth keeping around,and what player’s cant. And the best way to do that,is to actually play some games.

by mob16151 on Mar 5, 2010 9:26 PM EST up reply actions  

Please stop ranting about the entire organization on a thread about Kelley Freaking Washington. Seriously – just don’t post when you’re in a bad mood.

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by Brian Galliford on Mar 5, 2010 3:09 PM EST up reply actions  

New ad campaign to replace “Don’t Drink and Drive” – “Don’t Post and Pout”

Bill Polian and AJ Smith are gone, so there's not the usual balance between "sane" and "others." Ralph has mentally checked out since 1994. It's a very dangerous time. The coalition for reason is extremely weak.

by thatguy34 on Mar 5, 2010 3:15 PM EST up reply actions  

We need a new thread than! This is what is on top.

I got nothing.

by Jason from OH-IO on Mar 5, 2010 4:26 PM EST up reply actions  

Are we really going to keep talking about Brandon as if he makes football decisions?

by MattRichWarren on Mar 6, 2010 9:05 AM EST up reply actions  

Every time someone counters your point effectively, you change the topic or reframe the argument

You:

C’mon, this is the perennial statement by OBD… We build through the draft. Hasn’t worked for 10 years, not optimistic it will work this year…

Counter:

Walker, Dockery, Spikes, Mitchell, TO – i know there’s more but you cannot say with a straight face that the Bills have not made a big splash in FA.

You:

my point is, we have screwed up in other ways… Poor FA signing (Walker/Dockery), poor draft picks, not retaining quality young talent, etc.

Everyone on the blog is frustrated by this team’s performance over the past decade. No need to go so far overboard on the negativity that it skews judgment. : )

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by Der Jaeger on Mar 5, 2010 3:59 PM EST up reply actions  

And that will continue 100% no doubt this year, naturally!

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by UZ on Mar 5, 2010 5:02 PM EST up reply actions  

So I didn’t know where to put this, and it is completely off topic, but has anyone noticed that the resigning of Scott they keep putting down Scott with be battling Wilson for the starting SS, now we all know Byrd is going to be playing FS… so where is Whitner…?

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by Ghetts on Mar 5, 2010 12:47 PM EST reply actions  

so where is Whitner

Washington

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by sireric on Mar 5, 2010 12:48 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

Rec'd hard

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by UZ on Mar 5, 2010 5:03 PM EST up reply actions  

Is Whitner on his way to Cleveland in a trade for Shaun Rogers? Is his agent negotiating a new contract with the Browns right now so that the deal can be announced? It’s one possibility.

by Macktruck on Mar 5, 2010 1:02 PM EST up reply actions  

Well...

Patrick Moran had this to say via twitter just a few minutes ago:

@DonteWhitner I know you gotta do what you gotta do til/if something happens, but I’m hearing trade whispers my man.

That… after Whitner re-tweeted brian’s tweet:

RT @BloRumblings: Bills official site claims B. Scott will compete with G. Wilson for starting spot at SS. Uh… what about @dontewhitner ?

And then Brian again…

Now Bills official site has amended report, saying unsure if coaches see @dontewhitner as SS or FS

My guess, someone just dropped the ball and forgot about Whitner in the report. But that’s no fun, so if the bills are looking to move Whitner, what can they get for the former #8 overall draft pick?

John I.

by jri111 on Mar 5, 2010 1:03 PM EST up reply actions  

Hopefully a midround pick

Or a NT like Rogers would work.

Any of the NFC East teams might have interest too

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by Kurupt on Mar 5, 2010 1:16 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

i’d be shocked if we traded for shaun rogers…happy but shocked

by billsnterps on Mar 5, 2010 1:22 PM EST up reply actions  

Isn’t CLE supposedly trading a DT to Detroit? Wouldn’t that leave them thin at DT?

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by RIP058 on Mar 5, 2010 1:27 PM EST up reply actions  

Corey Williams played end in Cleveland’s 3-4. He came from the 3-tech spot in Green Bay, where he played for Bob Sanders. He’ll go back to that spot in Detroit.

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by Brian Galliford on Mar 5, 2010 1:28 PM EST up reply actions  

Gotcha

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by RIP058 on Mar 5, 2010 1:30 PM EST up reply actions  

All the NFCE teams need a Safety

Reunion with Dicky J in Philly? We’re usually good for a trade or two with them lol

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by bflo on Mar 5, 2010 1:58 PM EST up reply actions  

Thanks guys

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by Ghetts on Mar 5, 2010 1:28 PM EST up reply actions  

Is Donte Whitner’s pysche so fragile that he needs to retweet every positive thing others say about him?

@DonteWhitner RT @cfenton23: @DonteWhitner Let people hate, they’ll be the same people trying to get your autograph after you rock it on gameday.(Thanx)
@DonteWhitner RT @Ankurksharma: @DonteWhitner Why would the bills get rid of the best player on there Defense? (Thanx bro)
@DonteWhitner RT @CBIN12: @DonteWhitner we will take you in cleveland donte..some these buffalo fans dont appreciate you bro! smh (thanx man that’s love)
@DonteWhitner RT @edsaxman: @DonteWhitner Forget Cleveland!! The fans want U to stay in Buffalo!!!(Thanx I love the fans in Buffalo they kno that right?)
@DonteWhitner RT @edsaxman: @DonteWhitner Ahhh I’m TICKED OFF now. WTF Buffalo?? U can’t get rid of teh best part of our Defense!!(Thanx bro)
@DonteWhitner RT @KeithBM: @DonteWhitner apparently people up in WNY have nothing better to do with their lives than hate on you, it’s pathetic. (Lol)

That’s all within the last hour. Is it possible he’s creating multiple Twitter accounts to pump out compliments about himself…to himself?

Bill Polian and AJ Smith are gone, so there's not the usual balance between "sane" and "others." Ralph has mentally checked out since 1994. It's a very dangerous time. The coalition for reason is extremely weak.

by thatguy34 on Mar 5, 2010 2:13 PM EST reply actions   2 recs

Haha, I just burst out laughing at work when i read that last part...

And then all my coworkers looked at me funny…

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by Ghetts on Mar 5, 2010 2:24 PM EST up reply actions  

best player on defense? He isn’t even the best safety.

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by sireric on Mar 5, 2010 2:33 PM EST up reply actions  

heck you could even break it down further and say that he isn’t the best FS or SS depending on where he plays.

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by sireric on Mar 5, 2010 2:36 PM EST up reply actions  

Exactly, which leads me to believe that people love to kiss celebrity’s/athlete’s a**es…or….Donte Whitner has at least 10 twitter accounts.

Bill Polian and AJ Smith are gone, so there's not the usual balance between "sane" and "others." Ralph has mentally checked out since 1994. It's a very dangerous time. The coalition for reason is extremely weak.

by thatguy34 on Mar 5, 2010 2:50 PM EST up reply actions  

Donte Whitner has at least 10 twitter accounts

I thought he was quitting Twitter. Or was that somebody else? If it was too time consuming for him this could be why…..

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by sireric on Mar 5, 2010 2:59 PM EST up reply actions  

No that was def him. Didnt last too long huh? lol

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Whens it gonna be Sabres-Offense Time?"
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by bflo on Mar 5, 2010 3:13 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

Yeah it was him. Apparently it was short lived because he couldn’t get his ego stroked elsewhere.

Bill Polian and AJ Smith are gone, so there's not the usual balance between "sane" and "others." Ralph has mentally checked out since 1994. It's a very dangerous time. The coalition for reason is extremely weak.

by thatguy34 on Mar 5, 2010 3:16 PM EST up reply actions  

He backed off that like every other proclamation he’s made.

by MattRichWarren on Mar 6, 2010 9:07 AM EST up reply actions  

I would rather go after K. Osgood…

by NorCal BillsFan on Mar 5, 2010 2:44 PM EST reply actions  

LOL.

Again, I ask why? Osgood is the same age as Washington, and his 33 career receptions are less than what Washington put up last year.

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by Brian Galliford on Mar 5, 2010 3:11 PM EST up reply actions  

Cooler name? Former Charger?

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by sireric on Mar 5, 2010 3:15 PM EST up reply actions  

Those are logical reasons....

sarcasm off….
 But prolly the right ones for those arguing for him…
Osgood, easily morphed into "das"good….
Washington.. Got nothin’ ….Especially if it has a DC at the end….

by Cinga on Mar 5, 2010 3:30 PM EST up reply actions  

Plus, we can make "Osbad" jokes every time he drops one!

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by UZ on Mar 5, 2010 5:04 PM EST up reply actions  

What is reasoning for signing Washington (who I am not against)?

I just stated who I would rather have based on what was said about Washington’s potential here as a 4th WR and STs guy…I think Osgood has been the second best ST player in the league behind only Josh Cribbs. We could see what the guy has as a WR (he could surprise many), he says he is only looking to get a shot at playing, not starting or anything. He just wants to be a complete FB player. Does anyone blame Parrish for wanting to play more? NO, they blame him for not playing well enough when he was given the chance. Osgood has never been given that fair chance. Now, if Nix doesn’t go after him at all, then there is a reason for it and I will defer to his judgement. But I will argue all day you hacks…

: )

by NorCal BillsFan on Mar 5, 2010 6:26 PM EST up reply actions  

Personally I can’t wait to see Mr. Washington do the squrriel dance in a bills uni. As far Osgood he’s a great athlete but a horrible Wrs. there is a reason he could never get on the field in SD

by Circle The Wagon on Mar 5, 2010 3:17 PM EST reply actions  

Kinda funny

It’s 4pm already on the 1st day of free agency, and the only report the Bills have been mentioned in the entire day is “Bills interested in Kelly Washington”!

I know free agency isn’t always the best way to build a team, and guys signed on day 1 especially seem to be over-paid but…..this is what people were staying up until 3am for last night?

Good grief. You can always count on the Bills to make even a fun day like the 1st day of free agency a bore!

It’s almost like they are intenionally trying to bore people:

“Oh, you bought a ticket to see Bills vs Cleveland? Here, see if you can sit through a 6-3 game!”

“Oh, you like discussing possible free agency moves? Here, how about zero action!”

Way to take the entertainment out of the game, fellas.

by StroudFanClub on Mar 5, 2010 4:18 PM EST reply actions  

Thank God for Buffalo Rumblings

I mean, without the interesting conversations and great articles on this blog, it is possible that I would have gotten so bored with the Bills that…..well, I would never stop rooting for them, but I def wouldn’t be following them with the same vigor.

Brian, I think you should be on the Bills payroll for keeping the fans interested in them year round. I mean, they aren’t doing much of anything on their own to provide excitement these days.

by StroudFanClub on Mar 5, 2010 4:24 PM EST up reply actions  

I wonder if many people hope that they’ll do more in FA because there are WAY too many needs to field a complete squad via the draft and current roster. It’s almost like they need to find guys, not just to get better, but to be a complete team.

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by TheAfghanTwilight on Mar 5, 2010 4:27 PM EST up reply actions  

That is a good point.

I mean, they have to fill out their roster somehow, right?

Maybe they are planning on hiring big, bodyguard type guys for the o-line….kinda like those two guys in The Replacements? That would def be interesting!

by StroudFanClub on Mar 5, 2010 4:31 PM EST up reply actions  

I do wonder how and where they’re going to find enough capable players with all the changes they’re making. I don’t see WR as a priority ONLY because I don’t see the addition of a FA as a move to the playoffs. It’s not like letting unproven, young vets is going to hurt the team. They could hardly do worse than they did with 2 all-pros last season.

I think the time is now for them. Hardy and Johnson could really benefit from getting on the field. They’re paying these guys, why not see if they have talent before they just cut and run?

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by TheAfghanTwilight on Mar 5, 2010 4:37 PM EST up reply actions  

Completely agree.

Also why I don’t mind giving Edwards another shot at QB.

Give all our young guys playing time and see what you have at the end. We need at least 2 drafts to get some talent back in here, anyway. Plus the time it takes to switch defensive schemes.

Let the young guys play. And don’t sign older guys to play ahead of the younger guys this year and next if those older guys won’t be around to help us in 4-5 years!!!

by StroudFanClub on Mar 5, 2010 4:42 PM EST up reply actions  

I’m sure most people will hate me saying this: but i’m going to go on record and say i’ll be disappointed if Edwards isn’t given another opportunity, and is just let go. I think that last coaching staff was not well-equipped to coach anyone how to play QB. I’m really curious to see how the current guys respond to the changes.

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by TheAfghanTwilight on Mar 5, 2010 4:48 PM EST up reply actions  

disappointed if Edwards isn’t given another opportunity, and is just let go

YOU’RE DUMB

j/k

na – I partially agree. I agree in the sense that if he wins the QB battle in training camp/preseason that he should be given another chance.

let’s not forget how offensively challenged our coaches were.

with that being said – his injuries are of the biggest concern I think.

We got the tools, We got the talent

by J2 on Mar 5, 2010 4:49 PM EST up reply actions  

Don't

Forget that Trent sorta lost the team. Heard somewhere he was blaming everyone but himself. Understand his frustration but not at teammates expense. If Trent moves on I don’t think it will be bad thing.

by buffalobacker on Mar 5, 2010 6:00 PM EST up reply actions  

I heard he lost the team too...

but it had nothing to do with blaming others…from what I heard, I wish I could remember where I read it (so take this as it is, blog-fodder), it had to do with panicking. I read that he was so nervous in the huddle that he was calling the wrong plays (mixing run blocking assignments in with a passing play, and so on) and that the team thought he couldn’t handle the pressure.

by NorCal BillsFan on Mar 5, 2010 6:33 PM EST up reply actions  

Same here actually!

Can’t you just imagine Dick Jauron coaching Edwards by saying, “Now whatever you do, don’t make a big mistake! I’d rather you check-down every throw than throw an INT. Remember, a punt is always better than a turnover.”

I mean, can’t you just imagine him saying that? I gotta think that some of Trent’s hesitation and check-down problems were related to the ultra-conservative style/gameplans of Dick Jauron and friends.

I would also love to see how Trent responds to different coaching.

by StroudFanClub on Mar 5, 2010 4:54 PM EST up reply actions  

I would also love to see how Trent responds to different coaching.

ah hem – you mean “real” coaching :-)

We got the tools, We got the talent

by J2 on Mar 5, 2010 4:56 PM EST up reply actions  

I'll gladly take boring free agency and drafts to have a good team

Indy and Pittsburgh know all about boring off-season.

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by Der Jaeger on Mar 5, 2010 5:23 PM EST up reply actions  

It’s almost like they need to find guys, not just to get better, but to be a complete team.


Funny I was thinking the csame thing

"huge, big, fast, nasty...all those terms"

by fansince60 on Mar 5, 2010 4:32 PM EST reply actions  

yikes

didn’t mean to do that!

"huge, big, fast, nasty...all those terms"

by fansince60 on Mar 5, 2010 4:33 PM EST up reply actions  

What a perfect move

Yes now we may have another mediocre WR. We are horrible and embarrasing people. Could this be the Hangartner of this year?

by csc06258 on Mar 5, 2010 5:07 PM EST reply actions  

we wont get him anyway

i think Hang will have a better year

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by billsoferie on Mar 5, 2010 5:47 PM EST up reply actions  

the last thing..well not the last thing

im worried about it WR spend some money on LB we should be going all out for Dansby

"Hold ya chin up...nuh nuh nuh...gone" -Marshawn Lynch-

by billsoferie on Mar 5, 2010 5:46 PM EST reply actions  

I understand why you would feel like that...

but I doubt he would help this team in the future, IMO, his salary would only end up limiting our options.

by NorCal BillsFan on Mar 5, 2010 6:47 PM EST up reply actions  

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