Bills host OL Wade Smith on free agent visit
by Brian Galliford on Mar 5, 2010 6:15 PM EST
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PrintThe Buffalo Bills have announced that the team hosted free agent guard/center Wade Smith on a free agent visit at One Bills Drive today.
Smith, who will turn 29 the week of the 2010 NFL Draft, is a seven-year veteran that was a 2003 third-round pick of Miami. Smith spent two seasons with the Dolphins before latching on with the Jets for another two years; he missed the 2005 season. Smith then joined the Chiefs in 2008, where he spent a year as a seven-game starter while Chan Gailey was coordinating Kansas City's offense. The 6'4", 296-pound Smith made the majority of his starts at right guard, though he can also play center.
Arrowhead Pride, SB Nation's Chiefs blog, has routinely praised Smith's versatility as an asset for their young, struggling offensive line. Buffalo lacks depth behind the interior line trio of Andy Levitre, Geoff Hangartner and Eric Wood, and Wood's leg injury makes veteran depth an even higher priority for the Bills.
Smith has also scheduled a free agent visit with the Houston Texans for this weekend.
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I assure you he’s not.
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by Brian Galliford on Mar 5, 2010 6:29 PM EST up reply actions
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by MattRichWarren on Mar 6, 2010 9:23 AM EST up reply actions
But he certainly has played tackle
In fact, he was the starting LT for the entire 2003 season for Miami and mainly played OT until he arrived in KC, who used him almost entirely on the interior. My guess is that Brian is right and that that is what Nix and Co. have in mind for him as well, but for the record he is an experienced NFL OT and could sub there for us in an emergency (something we seem to have a lot on our o-line).
Do it
i would not even let him go anywhere else we are in no position to mess around
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Well he’s schedualed to visit us first,maybe that gives us an edge.
The more I see, the less I know.
by CanadianBillsFan on Mar 5, 2010 6:50 PM EST up reply actions
I really like the fact that this guy can play multiple o-line positions.
Sure, why not. Wish he was like 2 years younger so if he is any good here he would be more in his “prime” when we get decent again, but oh well.
You can say that about almost every UFA this year thanks to the stupid new rules.
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by Brian Galliford on Mar 5, 2010 6:31 PM EST up reply actions
I’m guessing that a guy with his expirience and versatility will fetch around 2 or 3 M.
The more I see, the less I know.
by CanadianBillsFan on Mar 5, 2010 6:51 PM EST up reply actions
Two things. One: I guess we’re signing free agents as backups which is okay with me as long as they’re quality players. I would like to sign a WR but it doesn’t look like that will happen. Two: We better not sign all former Chiefs players because I’m not sure if Gailey and Nix were are but they are/weren’t a good team.
I think he would be a good replacement for McKinney…
A good way to improce depth
I was born in Buffalo, and NO, it's not a suburb of New York City
That is the bigger point here...
upgrading the depth behind our starters.
We dont have star-quality starters everywhere, but if we can upgrade the depth behind our avg starters, we simply become better by shortening the talent divide between starter and sub.
by NorCal BillsFan on Mar 5, 2010 7:10 PM EST up reply actions
seems like small.......IMO
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by norcaliangelsfan on Mar 5, 2010 7:17 PM EST reply actions
maybe he's wiry :-)
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LOL
how sad is it that I can even think that a man that is 294lbs and 6’4" is small……..
only in football.
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by norcaliangelsfan on Mar 5, 2010 7:28 PM EST up reply actions
So if he adds on 6lbs will everyone shut up about his weight?
LOL…I just dont think it is a big deal.
by NorCal BillsFan on Mar 5, 2010 7:51 PM EST up reply actions
its not a big deal......
just kinda funny I think.
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by norcaliangelsfan on Mar 6, 2010 1:47 PM EST up reply actions
yeah, let's move on......I bet he has short arms and bad breath!
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Hangartner is not a starter in this league
Too bad we didn’t tender Inconito cuz Levitre, Wood at center, and Incongnito would have been much better than Hangartner in there. On a recent Offense of line study, he was ranked the worst offesive lineman in regard to pass blocking in the NFL. He spent much of the 2009 season on his back when I watched him. Terrible pick up last year folks. The only good thing about him is that he didnt get hurt.
by csc06258 on Mar 5, 2010 8:19 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
got a link...
to that??? From what I’ve found, Hang was personally responsible for 2 1/2 sacks last year…
Linky thingy…..
csc06258, I read that too, it was today or yesterday on one of the local online newpapers….
by NorCal BillsFan on Mar 5, 2010 10:45 PM EST up reply actions
He was ranked last in the AFC East, not sure where he placed overall.
by NorCal BillsFan on Mar 5, 2010 10:46 PM EST up reply actions
Hangartner ranked last according to ProFootballFocus.com
http://www.profootballfocus.com/articles.php?tab=articles&arc=&id=124
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by MattRichWarren on Mar 6, 2010 9:31 AM EST up reply actions
Consideration
I’m sure they don’t take into consideration he had a rookie on his left side and a new starting RG what seem like weekly. There is no way that those circumstances didn’t affect Hang’s ratings! Dwight Stephenson would have had a hard time under those circumstances….
I’m a Hang supporter, with a stable line we will see much better results.
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by MattRichWarren on Mar 6, 2010 10:10 AM EST up reply actions
Thanks
Of any unit in football the O-line needs to be the most cohesive and the better lines have spent a lot of time together. As we all know going into last year the O-line was going to be a work in progress with all the new starters. If the starters all stayed healthy to get to be an average O-line by seasons end would have given us hope going into 2010. Hell it didn’t even come close to that. Hang should be given credit for the job he did instead of being criticized.
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Hang On
Hang is a starter, at least the Bill’s played him as one. First time I heard he was ranked worst in pass blocking. I think the offense as a unit ranked poorly in some catergories. He too is probably grateful he suffered no injuries. I sense a man crush when Cog’s name comes up.
He's just a depth offensive line guy
But he was a big help to the Chiefs last season….I think any team could use someone like him.
Still not sure why he’s not back in KC.
Depth
Hopefully we are just looking at this guy for depth… That is what he is a DEPTH guy, not a STARTER. As a backup I like this as a possible signing… However I question why Incognito wasn’t a priority… Seems like he has better upside than Smith?
I got nothing.
by Jason from OH-IO on Mar 5, 2010 9:34 PM EST reply actions
Well I’d feel pretty confident saying Andy Levitre and Eric Wood, when healthy, are the two starters at OG.
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by MattRichWarren on Mar 6, 2010 9:32 AM EST up reply actions
Smith is a backup
I agree. However he’s way better than both Simmons and McKinney. He’s like a talented Jason Whittle. You know a super sub.
You're crackin me up on this thread
He’s like a talented Jason Whittle. You know a super sub.
by NorCal BillsFan on Mar 5, 2010 10:51 PM EST up reply actions
Yes
Another backup player is our highest priority!!! I love guys like hangartner, they’re so talented and really anchor our offensive line!! =)
Well with Simmons and Incognito FA's
And McKinney released we do need a backup. Unless you think we should be spending draft picks on backup interior linemen?
well draft picks could be starters. There are a ton of guys who were drafted in later rounds that are studs. This guy is not a stud and its known. I would rather us actually improve our team and sign someone that can help the team, like a dansby. Are you fine with the whole AFC East getting better and us getting worse. Seriously, the Pats signed Wilfork, the Jets trade a 3rd round for Cromartie and the Dolphins sign Dansby. What have we done? O yea, we brought a backup lineman in, that should help us win next year.
that should help us win next year.
And there’s where you’re missing the point. They aren’t trying to win a couple more games in 2010. They’re trying to build a playoff team like Nix helped do in San Diego. They didn’t start the process of going from the top pick in the early part of the decade to a Super Bowl contender by throwing huge money at free agents either.
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by MattRichWarren on Mar 6, 2010 9:34 AM EST up reply actions
O.K.
Capt obvious, the O/L is weak, brilliant! Give the FO time to acquire some talent. What do you expect mass signings by the Bill’s in one day?
by buffalobacker on Mar 5, 2010 11:24 PM EST up reply actions
Everyone in the AFCE is making moves
i hate this
We always look like amateurs
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i know
it’s just hard i want them/use to gain respect and just fix this s@#t so bad for everyone here and them
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No i hear ya man
Just keep looking forward to the draft,Because that’s where our talent is gonna come from. And they may make a trade or 2. But other than that expect the Bill’s to bring in depth and that’s pretty much it in FA.
yeah and i totally expected it
from all the talk and advice here and i know we are not in the same position as these teams…ya know 1 or 2 players away, still just hard to watch
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Great. its started.Do we really want a bunch of players from losing teams?
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rec"d…sigh
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by BigEasyBillsKrewe on Mar 6, 2010 12:21 AM EST reply actions
chan open your eyes
god i wished i had a job with the bills heck i would work for min wage to take over we need to bring in delhome and sign him asap trade one of our qbs and we definitly missed out on boldin but get delhome and smith would be a great turnaround
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by UZ on Mar 6, 2010 3:03 AM EST up reply actions
Versatility is nice.
But this concerns me.
Upon further review they say he’s small, and needs to work on run blocking.
Want to know why we don’t finish in the 4th qtr?
It’s because we don’t have a punishing line that gets 4-5 yds per run on the surge in the 4th qtr, we used to have that, back when Will Wolford was a Bill.
No surprise we haven’t been finishers with a lead since several year after he left,
let’s get some run blockers, who get stronger as the game goes on,
Bulaga is a good addition.
There's not a wide receiver who is fast enough, that J.P. Losman can't overthrow him on a fly pattern.
Umm not to worried about Smith
Because he’s not coming into start for us. And he’ll be fine as a spot starter. If you have to start him for 16 games your in trouble. But as a backup he’s fine. And yes Bulaga would be a great addition.
For a swingman depth guy sure.
I would just rather have finishers for depth. Pancake machines.
There's not a wide receiver who is fast enough, that J.P. Losman can't overthrow him on a fly pattern.
by The Buffalo Kid on Mar 6, 2010 1:47 AM EST up reply actions
Me 2
And so would every other NFL team. Alas the Pancake machines usually end up being starters somewhere.
Unless
The pancake machines are not so good against the speed rush or the bull rush.
There's not a wide receiver who is fast enough, that J.P. Losman can't overthrow him on a fly pattern.
by The Buffalo Kid on Mar 6, 2010 1:53 AM EST up reply actions
Bulaga is a good addition.
Would the addition of Smith mean the Bills don’t draft Bulaga? Hardly.
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by MattRichWarren on Mar 6, 2010 9:37 AM EST up reply actions
The pancake machines are not so good against the speed rush or the bull rush.
Wouldn’t that mean there notreall pancake machines then? LOL
There is a difference,
When you are defending a pass rusher, you can’t be as aggressive, because if you whiff, you give up a sack. You have to let the defender come to you and drive the defender away from the QB.
Run blocking you must be very aggressive, and drive them back.
There's not a wide receiver who is fast enough, that J.P. Losman can't overthrow him on a fly pattern.
by The Buffalo Kid on Mar 6, 2010 2:00 AM EST up reply actions
You can still be agressive pass blocking
Every O lineman wants to get his hands on the Defender as soon as possible. Your just not firing out when you pass block.
Every O lineman wants to get his hands on the Defender
Not with speed rushers as you can usually drive them behind the QB where the make no impact on the play.
See Aaron Maybin.
There's not a wide receiver who is fast enough, that J.P. Losman can't overthrow him on a fly pattern.
by The Buffalo Kid on Mar 6, 2010 2:03 AM EST up reply actions
Curious to See the Offer Amount
I’m not only looking at who they bring in but what they offer them. The last regime overpayed on Dockery and Walker and that’s not being a Monday morning QB – it was pricey at the time they signed.
I’m really interested if Nix feels he has to overpay (or realizes he has to overpay – whichever you prefer) to get “his” guys to come to Buffalo. That’s the perception I have anyway, maybe you would disagree.
I think he may have to overpay
But seeing as how the guy’s he’s looking at our depth guy’s he shouldn’y have to overpay to much.
he started for Gailey
he may still feel that he is a starter, and want to get paid that way. i don’t want anyone who themselves don’t at least feel they should be starting after being in the league since 03.
I doubt he expects starter money
And if he does he’s not getting it here. But I’m guessing Nix at least knows his asking price. Itseem’s like the typeof thing you’d find out before bringing in A FA for a visit.
On a side note about the O-Line
Did anyone else get peeved when they watched the piece they did on buffalobills.com every week last year where they had the O-line sitting around eating & drinking telling lame jokes? I don’t know why, but that really bothered me. I know they are people too and deserve to relax, but I kept thinking “shouldn’t you be working on your technique or something after that horrible performance instead of whooping it up & stuffing your face on your inflated paycheck?” I felt like they were laughing in our collective faces as fans. I don’t know, I’m probably overreacting, but maybe bbills.com should have reserved those pieces for the 7 wins only instead of showing them every week. OK I’m done.
I didn’t see them every week. They were on NFL.com twice. And no I had no problem with it.
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by MattRichWarren on Mar 6, 2010 10:09 AM EST up reply actions
Wow
Really? It was only twice? Seemed like more, but you are probably right. It must have been the timing then that they posted it coming off of bad losses or performances by the O-line and that’s why it bothered me. Like I said, I know they are people too and deserve to relax (no I don’t think they should be thinking football 24/7 289). Obviously NFL.com either learned from their mistakes, or figured out it simply wasn’t very entertaining as it was pretty lame.
They went around the league. Prilosec sponsored a series on the protectors of the NFL. http://www.nfl.com/partner?partnerType=most-valuable-protectors
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by MattRichWarren on Mar 7, 2010 9:28 AM EST up reply actions
Wade Smith to meet media?
Looks to me like this will be signing for sure. Not bad for depth I guess. As we all knew we weren’t going to make a big splash in FA. We are trying to fill depth and build through the draft. So, all in all, even if this is the only move, its a move in the right direction.
I still see the Bills signing depth at LB as well.
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by Brian Galliford on Mar 6, 2010 11:12 AM EST up reply actions
He's no longer meeting the media.
Because he needed to catch his flight to Houston. He’s not signing here.
http://blogs.buffalobills.com/2010/03/06/smith-unable-to-address-media/
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