A Crazed Idea
by Ron From NM on Mar 7, 2010 8:21 PM EST
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PrintBuffalo has serious holes to fill on draft day, the biggest being LT, NT, OLB and QB. This is the latest installment in half baked (or baked to a charcoal like crisp) ideas that I'm inflicting on the FanPosts.
It seems pretty clear that Suh, Okung and McCoy are locks to go in the top 5 in some order. Either Clausen or Bradford is certain to be gone after the 4th pick (Redskins) and there's a chance that both QBs could go in the top 5--particularly if the Rams take a QB at #1. (Sidebar: I could see the Rams negotiating with Bradford, Suh and McCoy and taking the easiest guy to sign a la Reggie Bush-Mario Williams.) The top 5 doesn't really interest me overly much as Buffalo lacks the juice to get there without crippling the draft....which I don't see CHIX doing. The Seahawks have #6, the Browns #7, and the ever unpredictable Al Davis has #8.
The Seahawks have hosted Brandon Marshall, a restricted free agent. Signing him to an offer sheet would cost Seattle the #6 pick, but would leave the Seahawks with the #14. I'm guessing that Denver would be willing to work a deal with Seattle to trade Marshall for the #14 pick, which originally belonged to the Broncos. If Denver blanches at that idea, Buffalo could call and offer Lee Evans for the #14 pick. If Denver goes for it, Buffalo could call Marshall-less Denver about a Evans-#14 trade. Evans, unlike every WR in the draft has caught passes in the NFL...and in spite of shoddy QB play. Al Davis would be another option. Perhaps CHIX could begin the call by telling Davis they've found a way to help him not screw up his draft choice and help his vertical passing game. The point isn't whether Buffalo could get the #8 or #14 for Evans but rather that the Bills might be able to turn Evans into a top 15ish draft pick before draft day.
Instead of waiting for draft day, Buffalo could go after a proven commodity with the #9 pick and sign Jared Gaither to an offer sheet. The use of a poison pill could ensure that the deal went through. The LT slot would be filled while NT, OLB, QB and (now) WR were still crying needs. Buffalo could give the WR position a lick and a promise (why does that sound familiar?) and bring in a free agent WR. Anyone Buffalo brings in would represent a step down from Evans--it's just a question of how big of a step. Robbing Peter (WR) to pay Paul (OL) would at least help ensure that the QB (whomever it is) would remain upright more of the time.
Buffalo could use the pick from the Evans trade (or #9 if the Bills cut to the chase and convinced the Ravens to trade Gaither for Evans) to take a NT, and possibly the first NT off the board. In theory Buffalo could take a QB if Clausen or Bradford slid but that doesn't seem likely. CHIX could then target a OLB in the 2nd and either a QB in the 3rd...or trade back into the late 2nd to pick up a QB.
Buffalo would come away from the offseason with a proven starting caliber LT (Gaither), one of the first (and possibly the first) NTs off the board, a second round OLB and a second or third round QB. The bad news is that the WR position would take a hit in the form of replacing Lee Evans with some journeyman.
The stay-put option would have Buffalo taking either one of the first NTs or the second or third (completely unproven at the NFL level) LTs off the board at #9, addressing the other position likely in the second, and either OLB or QB in the third....with the odd position out being left until the fourth round. But the WR position wouldn't be as dismal.
Just another great fan opinion shared on the pages of BuffaloRumblings.com.
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What? Sorry. Some pantsless lunatic just wandered through the room and distracted me. What was all this madness?
That was me
No weekend spent pantsless is a wasted weekend.
Trade Evans for Gaither (and try to get a pick in the deal) and then send a 3rd to Arizona for Bouldin. Buffalo keeps the 1st round pick, get a quality OT and signs Bouldin to a contract that keeps him here for longer than Evans’ current deal.
I put this on a different thread a couple of days ago. Of course with Bouldin off the board the WR options are considerably thinner.
It can always get worse. Let me tell you how.
First, let me say this is very well thought, as usual......
this scenerio really scares the hell out of me. The thought of getting rid of our biggest scoring threat just makes me nervous, even if I understand that having him means nothing if we can’t get the ball to him. Why do you have to make me think so hard on a Sunday night.
Why do today, when it can wait til tomorrow; the games on!
You could have read it on Monday morning. Would that have made it any better?
I’ll take converting 3rd downs (because the team is better at run blocking and/or protecting the QB on 3rd and 5 or less) over the big play potential. Part of my reasoning, such as it is, revolves around the fact that Evans will again face consistent double coverage this year. He has demonstrated that he can’t produce under those conditions…..so it wouldn’t be all that much different if he were on another team and we had some no-name WR not getting open.
It can always get worse. Let me tell you how.
Yes it would have made it better. I don't think I'll be able to sleep tonight......
BTW, I get where you’re coming from.
Why do today, when it can wait til tomorrow; the games on!
Sounds good to me....
But I don’t think we have the capacity to pull it off
Rrrawrrrr, rrrawrrr like a dungeon dragon-Busta Ryhmes
According to Rotoworld, Gaither may be had for less than a first if a trade can be negotiated.
by MarinoTheBill on Mar 7, 2010 8:52 PM EST via mobile reply actions
It would be crazy to trade Evans when we don’t have any other WR on the roster who is a proven NFL receiver. Hardy, Johnson, and even Shawn Nelson have yet to demonstrate that they can be consistent targets, and Roscoe is worthless. In effect, it would be like telling opponents outright that we have no air attack, which would leave them free to focus on eliminating our ground game. If we had a surplus of WR’s it might make some sense, but it’s just the opposite. The more logical step would be to trade a CB, where we do have a surplus.
Lee Evans is not worth a top 15 pick
It’s crazy to think anybody, other than Jerry Jones, would do that.
~K
"As the governor of Louisiana once said, the only way Chris Kelsay can lose his job is if he got caught in bed with a dead girl or a live boy."
agreed.....nice idea but I doubt they would take the bait
A married man should forget his mistakes. There's no use in two people remembering the same thing!
Nah, Jones likes to deal and think he’s getting the best of the deal. Al Davis on the other hand….
Any thoughts on Evans for Gaither?
It can always get worse. Let me tell you how.
How good is Gaither?
Is he better than whoever we could draft at OT? Yes, I know there is some risk, but there is also some upside.
A married man should forget his mistakes. There's no use in two people remembering the same thing!
Why would Baltimore want Evans now?
They just added Boldin.
~K
"As the governor of Louisiana once said, the only way Chris Kelsay can lose his job is if he got caught in bed with a dead girl or a live boy."
Bouldin has been a success when paired with a good WR. The Ravens could feature 2 good WRs (Bouldin and Evans) to clear out the box for their run game. Although I hope the Rotoworld bit turns out to be true and Buffalo can get Gaither for less than a first rounder.
It can always get worse. Let me tell you how.
Gaither for a 2nd....
… done. But Baltimore would want more.
Quit, don't quit? Noodles, don't noodles? You are too concerned about what was and what will be. There is a saying: yesterday is history, tomorrow is a mystery, but today is a gift. That is why it is called the "present." --Oogway
The Ravens might take less than a 1st but the report doesn’t suggest what ‘less’ might entail.
So, would the Ravens keep Gaither if offered a first- or second-round pick? It’s a decision they might soon have to face.
If the asking price were a 2nd this year and a 3rd next (or vice versa) I’d hope the Bills would consider it.
It can always get worse. Let me tell you how.
For a relatively proven LT, me too!
Quit, don't quit? Noodles, don't noodles? You are too concerned about what was and what will be. There is a saying: yesterday is history, tomorrow is a mystery, but today is a gift. That is why it is called the "present." --Oogway
Why wouldn't they just re-sign Mason then?
And draft a speedy WR in the middle rounds to fill the role that a guy like Evans would fill there??
~K
"As the governor of Louisiana once said, the only way Chris Kelsay can lose his job is if he got caught in bed with a dead girl or a live boy."
The Ravens don’t seem too interested in retaining Mason. He’s, what, 36 now?
It can always get worse. Let me tell you how.
If they don't want to sign a guy like Mason, without having to give anything up
Why would they trade their starting LT for Lee Evans?
Can’t they just stick with Mark Clayton?
~K
"As the governor of Louisiana once said, the only way Chris Kelsay can lose his job is if he got caught in bed with a dead girl or a live boy."
SIT AND WAIT NOOO AHHHH
First of all they are not trading EVANS I want what ever this DUDE is smoking and I do not smoke , WE ARE GOING T SIT and take at 9 who ever is left if not they will tray down like always to save some PENNYS. IT SOUNDS Great in the Dimension he WROTE THAT but on DRAFT DAY sit down eat your Dounuts and wait to see so we tHE FANS can go ahhhh I Knew that they were going to do that like every year. WE PASS ON GOOD PLAYERS THAT TO GREAT IN OHER teams winn BABY WINN thats what I WANT TO SEE
WINN BABY WINN
I do not smoke
Oh my
~K
"As the governor of Louisiana once said, the only way Chris Kelsay can lose his job is if he got caught in bed with a dead girl or a live boy."
that post above strikes of harder drugs in my opinion anyway
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by UZ on Mar 8, 2010 1:00 AM EST up reply actions
plus the hallucinogens are just so much more fun
and better for your lungs
we the FANS the VOICE the PEOPLE the true BLOOD of the Buffalo BILLS are just doing all this SO mAYBE just MAYbe the Coach THE teAM will just see how us the FANS the the SPARTAN aka BUFARTAN we will not Surrender to know onE.
-abayarde
by uPitt_BillsFan on Mar 8, 2010 12:21 AM EST up reply actions
Like the idea, but I don't think Evans has that kind of worth.
And I’d rather have Evans than anyone’s 2nd or 3rd rounders.
There is the danger that Evans may be too old to contribute in 2-3 years, when Buffalo could make a playoff run. But he is an outside receiver that hasn’t taken many shots. Marvin Harrison caught 95 balls at age 35 as an outside receiver that relied on speed. So Evans may still have a prominent role on this team in 2012-ish.
Quit, don't quit? Noodles, don't noodles? You are too concerned about what was and what will be. There is a saying: yesterday is history, tomorrow is a mystery, but today is a gift. That is why it is called the "present." --Oogway
poison pill
there is no such thing as a poison pill contract in a non capped year
if we could work out a deal to trade this years 4th and 6th and next years 1st to get gaither i would then we could trade down a little and grab trent williams for the right side and trade up in the 2nd and grab mt cody
I've never met a QB who can throw off his back
there is no such thing as a poison pill contract in a non capped year
Well, yes and no.
Say the language of the contract we offer Gaither has language like “If Gaither plays more than two games in a year in the state of Maryland he will automatically become the highest-paid OT in the league.” That’s a poison pill contract and perfectly legit without a salary cap.
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by MattRichWarren on Mar 9, 2010 2:47 PM EST up reply actions
If I were writing contracts
I’d make the poison pill stipulations totally absurd and hilarious.
“Jared Gaither will be the highest paid OT in the league if a WR on his team yells ’I’m a %*$#ing man’ after every reception”
“Jared Gaither will be the highest paid OT in the league if his QB has a unibrow”
“Jared Gaither will be the highest paid player on his team if the team’s uniform has purple in it”
~K
"As the governor of Louisiana once said, the only way Chris Kelsay can lose his job is if he got caught in bed with a dead girl or a live boy."
If we traded away NEXT years 1st...
I would have to find something tall to jump off of.
Next year, is when we get our franchise QB. But we will need our #1 to do it.
If....
Mallett and Luck declare. Locker is the only senior that currently rates as a high first rounder.
Quit, don't quit? Noodles, don't noodles? You are too concerned about what was and what will be. There is a saying: yesterday is history, tomorrow is a mystery, but today is a gift. That is why it is called the "present." --Oogway
Pat Devlin rates a 2nd half first rounder could move higher.
There's not a wide receiver who is fast enough, that J.P. Losman can't overthrow him on a fly pattern.
by The Buffalo Kid on Mar 8, 2010 10:10 AM EST up reply actions
Sorry, but Lee Evans isn't worth a top 15 pick
If Boldin is traded for only a 3rd round pick then Lee Evans certainly won’t be worth a top 15 pick. Boldin is younger, has been MUCH more productive, and he actually blocks so he would help a team in the running game as well. No chance for the aforementioned scenario unfortunately. Even crazy Al Davis would balk at this.
http://blogs.buffalonews.com/billboard/2010/02/nix-on-kyle.html
Boldin was born in October 3rd 1980
Lee Evans was born March 11th 1981
But other tan that I agree with you.
okay
Not worht it in anyway. Frist off no Nt in this draft is worth taking before the 15th pick. Suh And Mcoy are not NT they Would be A DE in a 3-4. One gathier isnt worth giving up Evans for him. Iam not giving up my best recevier for a guy who cant stay on the field. Plus If he was good he would be starting LT for Ravens But he is going to lose the job to there rookie from last yr.Why not just Draft A good Young LT who Has many yrs on his tires instead. Like trent Willams from OK who is gonna BE a goodie. Then Draft Cam Thomas FRom NC. Then LETs BUILd this team the rt way. and wait for a good QB class to come out like next yr. Every one back BUffalo just wants to get to the playoffs. Well that isnt good enough They need to build a team to get to the super bowl. That should be the attuide of the team and city. to make it all the way and WIN.Only the playoff hope is for the losing ATTUide inthe city
From what I heard Suh would actually be good in a 3-4 but McCoy would have to play 4-3, not sure.
I call it... The Avaslug!
I am the 1st and probably only official member of the David "Dr." Jones fanclub. Until I get the newsletter out, anyway.
Syracuse Basketball 2010: Big East Champs!!! G'Orange!
by UZ on Mar 9, 2010 8:18 AM EST up reply actions
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