Bills getting busier on free agent front
by Brian Galliford on Mar 8, 2010 7:52 AM EST
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After nearly three days of scant activity on the free agency front, things picked up nicely for the Buffalo Bills overnight.
ESPN's Adam Schefter reports that the Bills have serious interest in former Steelers and Dolphins outside linebacker Joey Porter. At 33, most believe that Porter is beginning to decline, but he still managed to put up nine sacks in Miami last year despite reduced playing time. The Bills have not yet scheduled a visit with Porter, however, as he's going to be in Arizona this Thursday for a visit.
Porter spent his three years in Miami working for position coach George Edwards, who is now Buffalo's defensive coordinator.
WIVB.com is also reporting that the Bills will meet with veteran Raiders tackle Cornell Green on Monday. Green, who will turn 34 this August, has spent much of the last three seasons as Oakland's starting right tackle, logging 38 starts. The 6'6", 315-pound Green is experienced, and would give the Bills a starting option on the right side, alleviating one of their biggest needs.
Veteran guard Wade Smith, who visited with the Bills on Friday, will conclude his visit with the Houston Texans later on today.
Meanwhile, Adam Caplan of FOXSports.com reported yesterday that the Bills have paid a $500,000 roster bonus due to veteran end Chris Kelsay as of March 5. Barring an incredibly unlikely trade, it appears Kelsay will remain part of the team's plans for the foreseeable future.
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Uh… sorry, but what, exactly, is wishful thinking?
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by Brian Galliford on Mar 8, 2010 7:53 AM EST up reply actions
This is precisely my point. He could have been referring to like half a dozen things.
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by Brian Galliford on Mar 8, 2010 8:12 AM EST up reply actions
my b, to clarify. wishful thinking he would come and play for the bills. i’d love to see him don a bills jersey, but that is wishful thinking.
Later Losman!
by rockybillboa on Mar 8, 2010 11:03 AM EST up reply actions
OK. I assume “he” is Porter?
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by Brian Galliford on Mar 8, 2010 11:28 AM EST up reply actions
haha, Brian, I'm imagining this is similar to "Lost" for you right now
You are desperately trying to figure out what was meant by these somewhat “cryptic” comments!!!
by StroudFanClub on Mar 8, 2010 11:32 AM EST up reply actions
I honestly felt bad for Coach Sal yesterday.
Seriously sucks that some people want to ruin someone elses rep like that.
The guy does a great job and pretty much what he reports is the truth.
"It took twenty five years to get there, and they did it in championship style" - Van Miller 1/20/91.
I don’t think his rep is ruined. The people who know him know what happened and besides it may turn out that the fake report was mostly correct after all. LOL
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by MattRichWarren on Mar 8, 2010 8:17 AM EST up reply actions
Someone had started a rumor saying the Bills had interest in Porter and had attributed to Sal
I beleive. Anyways he had been out with his wife all day and,denied it. Anyhow it’s kind of funny that Schefter’s confirming Bills interested in Porter now. But at least Sal’s honest.
So if Green becomes the starting RT, a very big if at this point obviously, then Bell/rookie mans LT with Bell/Meredith being the presumed swing tackle. I can jive with either of those scenarios I guess. I still don’t know what to think of Bell but that’s a topic for another day.
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Assuming we draft a RT prospect in the mid/late rounds, as well
A guy like Ed Wang, Ciron Black, Kyle Calloway, Adam Ulatowski, Tony Washington, Will Barker, Chris Scott, Kevin Haslam, Thomas Welch, etc would all be quality additions in the 5th-7th round range to try and find a RT gem, a la Butler…..
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"As the governor of Louisiana once said, the only way Chris Kelsay can lose his job is if he got caught in bed with a dead girl or a live boy."
Green, Bell, Meredith, and a rookie makes sense as would 1st round OT, Bell, Meredith, another rookie.
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by MattRichWarren on Mar 8, 2010 2:55 PM EST up reply actions
I'm all in favor of a late round pick on Kyle Calloway
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by SouthBuffaloNDgrad on Mar 8, 2010 4:59 PM EST up reply actions
Cornell Green is a very, very average RT. Just ask Raider-fans or look at this site:
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by BillsfanfromDenmark on Mar 8, 2010 12:46 PM EST up reply actions
Ha, another Langston Walker, maybe?
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by SouthBuffaloNDgrad on Mar 8, 2010 5:00 PM EST up reply actions
Kelsay
What position is Kelsay going to play DE or OLB. Unless Kelsay puts on 15lbs of muscle I don’t understand how his style fits our scheme.
Kelsay is going to sit on the bench and simply be on the team to annoy Kurupt.
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by sireric on Mar 8, 2010 9:14 AM EST up reply actions 13 recs
Yup, most likely!
~K
"As the governor of Louisiana once said, the only way Chris Kelsay can lose his job is if he got caught in bed with a dead girl or a live boy."
and Ks sig is safe for another year....dam!!!!!
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by Brian Galliford on Mar 8, 2010 9:16 AM EST up reply actions
I am sure you are right. Tells me how clueless I am: before any of this, I would have projected Denney as an ideal 3-4 end (and was a poor fit as a 4-3 end and the reason why he didn’t produce), Kelsay as a definite 3-4 end (and absolutely poor choice for OLB), Stroud as perfect for NT, with Veek a great choice for OLB in a 3-4. My instincts would have told me that Schobel would simply not fit in a 3-4 defense.
Ummm
Strouds to tall to be an effective NT IMO. And I worry about his ankle ,if he does play 3-4 NT. Kelsay’s just a 3-4 tweener. I imagine he’s a reserve player/ST guy.
It's not that he's too tall
It’s that he doesn’t have enough bulk or the ability to anchor the middle of the line.
~K
"As the governor of Louisiana once said, the only way Chris Kelsay can lose his job is if he got caught in bed with a dead girl or a live boy."
I think 6'6" actually
He can’t anchor. That’s the problem. If he was 6’6", 350, I think he’d be more than capable of doing that…..
~K
"As the governor of Louisiana once said, the only way Chris Kelsay can lose his job is if he got caught in bed with a dead girl or a live boy."
Well I kinda disagree with you about thta part
I think Stroud can’t anchor because of his ankle. Not because he lack’s the strength to.
He lacks the bulk to
Never said he didn’t have strength
I agree with his ankle, that’s why I think he’s going to struggle at DE too.
~K
"As the governor of Louisiana once said, the only way Chris Kelsay can lose his job is if he got caught in bed with a dead girl or a live boy."
Marcus Stroud is heavier than Kyle Williams
Yet Bill’s posters are convinced that William’s is the answer at NT. Nevermind the fact that he’s 4 pounds lighter than Stroud, and doesn’t have the arm length to play NT everydown.
Stroud may be heavier
but Kyle packs more body behind his weight. Kyle is 6’1, 307 lbs and Stroud is 6’6 310 lbs. Stroud is a much leaner 310 and Kyle is a much wider 306. I think Stroud would be a great DE in a 3-4.
"you just have to know there's always going to be adversity. None of these games are going to be easy. Nothing will be given to us" - Paul Posluszny
Kyle is 6’1, 307 lbs
Should be 306 lbs.
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depends on whether he went to the bathroom or not :-)
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haha nice joe
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by poz on Mar 8, 2010 4:20 PM EST up reply actions
Bouldin has been a success when paired with a good WR.
But I beleive that William’s greater relative bulk is offset by his arm length. Allowing opposing OT toget into his body and making it harder for him to control his gap(s)
Hahahaha My bad
That’s what I get for talking to my gf and posting on here.
Stroud does have much longer arms than Kyle Williams
and maybe your right on his arm strength being a serious weakness but bulk wise, I still think Kyle is a bigger body.
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by poz on Mar 8, 2010 4:21 PM EST up reply actions
I don't think anyone is convinced Williams is the answer at NT
In fact, nobody should be convinced he’ll even play the position….
~K
"As the governor of Louisiana once said, the only way Chris Kelsay can lose his job is if he got caught in bed with a dead girl or a live boy."
Then someone need's to go talk to Chix
Because apparently there convinced.
Says who?
~K
"As the governor of Louisiana once said, the only way Chris Kelsay can lose his job is if he got caught in bed with a dead girl or a live boy."
Don't make me go qoute hunting
But it goes something like Kyle Williams has a place in this defence" And I’m convinced that Kyle William’s can play Nosetackle in this league.
It's just coach-speak
Or I guess GM-speak. What are Chix supposed to say?
“Williams doesn’t fit and we don’t know what to do with him”??
~K
"As the governor of Louisiana once said, the only way Chris Kelsay can lose his job is if he got caught in bed with a dead girl or a live boy."
The Jauron era
Has left me extremely leary of Front office speak. Once again while intellectually I know better,emotionally I feel like there dead serious.
Yeah it was Nix at the combine.
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by MattRichWarren on Mar 8, 2010 2:56 PM EST up reply actions
I’m not saying he’s not the answer either. I’m just saying they’re gonna need a backup plan. We need at least on more NT option anyway. Just because they said they liked Williams’ talent doesn’t mean they’re gonna bet the farm on him being our NT for the next several seasons..
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Here's the quote ( I hate you guys JK)
“Kyle Williams is an exception. You want to say 6-2, 6-3, 340 (at nose tackle). But there’s always exceptions to the measurables, and he’s one of them. He’s a playmaker. He’ll make plays at nose for us."
Link: http://blogs.buffalonews.com/billboard/2010/02/nix-on-kyle.html
The 6’6", 315-pound Green is experienced, and would give the Bills a starting option on the right side, alleviating one of their biggest needs.
Does anyone have a good feel for how good he is? Old tackles generally don’t perform well, and coming from the Raiders I don’t get a sense that he’s an average or better starting RT (as my perception is that they have a weak OL).
And does ‘starting option’ mean that if he was signed he’s a virtual lock to start at RT, or does it mean he’ll start if the Bills don’t find any other alternatives better between now and the start of the season and backup if they do?
Starting Option?
If the Bills do sign Green, my guess is that he will work his way quickly to the bottom of the depth chart. As Cinga notes below, this guy is awful beyond belief, averaging 7 sacks surrendered a year and racking up penalties like they are the main objective of the game. He makes Jonathan Scott look like a Pro Bowler. I don’t see any point whatsoever starting him in front of Meredith or Bell or even Andre Ramsey, who is a better OT than Green. And about the only thing that our young tackles could learn from him is how not to play the position.
The Bills had some cash freed up when Brad Butler retired and one might have thought they would invest it in someone like Artis Hicks or Tony Pashos if they wanted a quality veteran presence over the next couple of years, but they apparently made no effort to bring in one of those guys. And now this? I’m beginning to wonder about Nix & Co.
Why?
Adam Terry and Barry Sims are still available. I’d rather have either of them over Pashos or Hicks, though I do like Hicks and wanted the Bills to sign him.
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OT from Oakland?
Didn’t we try this already?
"It took twenty five years to get there, and they did it in championship style" - Van Miller 1/20/91.
I will say this about Cornell Green: the dude was an absolute penalty machine last year. Very much like Demetrius Bell early in the season.
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by Brian Galliford on Mar 8, 2010 9:29 AM EST up reply actions
BUT HE’S A FREE AGENT THAT MIGHT SIGN!!!! That is supposed to be a good thing right? I mean if we sign him then we filled a need right?
No weekend spent pantsless is a wasted weekend.
Yep, just like Dominic Rhodes was the player who gave the Bills the best three-running back tandem in the league
I thought it would have...
That cut still suprises me. But I dont think he caught on with anyone else did he?
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Funny
I was one those people thinking we had just a monster 3 man rotation at RB going into pre-season, ha at least we have 2 RB’s. Not many got 3 man backfields (Dallas, New Orleans, Baltimore).
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by SouthBuffaloNDgrad on Mar 8, 2010 5:07 PM EST up reply actions
It’s not hard to grab a free agent out of Oakland. Even Buffalo is seen as a great place to play compared to that mess.
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by TheAfghanTwilight on Mar 8, 2010 12:00 PM EST up reply actions
a ringing endorsement for sure
plus he’s from Oakland! – Yikes…
For the impatient fan, a word to the wise- Be careful what you wish for (FA signings!)
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The “he’s from Oakland” thing holds no water with me. But yes, the penalties are an issue.
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by Brian Galliford on Mar 8, 2010 9:45 AM EST up reply actions
On his last 3 yrs....
in Oak…
38 starts…. 28 penalties….21 false starts… 5 holding….. 22 sacks allowed…
http://hosted.stats.com/fb/playerstats.asp?id=5370&team=13
But even worse…. Posted on March 22…..
The 32-year-old tackle was being held Sunday at the Hillsborough County jail on a charge of aggravated battery with a deadly weapon. Continue to follow the developments as this could be a major problem for Green.
Unless we’re establishing a probation office out of OBD, I prefer we cancel his visit….JMO..
In related news……
Yes, Bell was a penalty machine early last season, but he was also taking his first NFL snaps at LT in a no-huddle offense. And by the middle of the season the penalties had dropped to a normal level for a LT. Green, by contrast, was a seasoned vet starting at RT (an easier position where you don’t face as many speed-rushers) and the penalties kept coming all year. There’s a HUGE difference.
by Macktruck on Mar 8, 2010 12:57 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
was gonna post this myself.
good call.
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by norcaliangelsfan on Mar 8, 2010 10:22 AM EST up reply actions
except Langston Walker didn't completely blow in his tenure here
…oh hey he’s a FA again.
Draft Eric Decker in the 2nd!!! Eric Decker > Golden Tate
by neverbeentobuffalo on Mar 8, 2010 11:24 AM EST up reply actions
Serious Interests?
Wonder how serious? Porter would help us out a lot even if he is getting older. I’m in doubt, but you never know I suppose with these guys.
then we could seek to trade Schobel
to down south if that would make him happier.
Draft Eric Decker in the 2nd!!! Eric Decker > Golden Tate
by neverbeentobuffalo on Mar 8, 2010 11:24 AM EST up reply actions
Gahhhhhhhhhh!!!!
Meanwhile, Adam Caplan of FOXSports.com reported yesterday that the Bills have paid a $500,000 roster bonus due to veteran end Chris Kelsay as of March 5. Barring an incredibly unlikely trade, it appears Kelsay will remain part of the team’s plans for the foreseeable future.
(Shakes fist towards the heavens with pained look on face)
Why??? Beyond my Kelsay bashing history, what is the point of this? Do they honestly think Kelsay can handle a move to OLB? He has no pass rush ability and is a proven poor run defender, yet they are paying him a $500K bonus to see if he might be able to make the move to a new position for a year? Really, why? I’d rather bring in any warm body with 3-4 experience. That’s going to be an expensive backup OLB that provides nothing in terms of pass rush. It doesn’t make any sense……
~K
"As the governor of Louisiana once said, the only way Chris Kelsay can lose his job is if he got caught in bed with a dead girl or a live boy."
by Kurupt on Mar 8, 2010 10:58 AM EST reply actions 1 recs
Man, I'd love to be paid $500k because someone thought I'd be good at a job I've never done before.
But to be fair, it’s not time for Kelsay to lose his job just yet. Unless I missed the news of his being caught with a dead girl or a live boy over the weekend! : )
Man that guy has 9 lives
by StroudFanClub on Mar 8, 2010 11:04 AM EST up reply actions
For the life of me I can’t figure this one out. They might as well just burn that $500k bonus they just paid him. I was hoping our new front office would be a little smarter than this.
It's gonna be ok Kurupt
Theres always 2011.
Theres always 2011
Well, actually, there might not be.
Bill Polian and AJ Smith are gone, so there's not the usual balance between "sane" and "others." Ralph has mentally checked out since 1994. It's a very dangerous time. The coalition for reason is extremely weak.
Just watched that fick....
best comedy so far this year!!!
Couldn’t help but laugh through the absurdity of it….
lets not think of a strike please!
2011 would stink without football.
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I do kind of want to see him out there at OLB though
It’s going to be funny. He’s going to be so bad at it. Schadenfreude.
~K
"As the governor of Louisiana once said, the only way Chris Kelsay can lose his job is if he got caught in bed with a dead girl or a live boy."
It’ll be great to see him make new highlight tackles for his Cellino and Barnes spots.
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by TheAfghanTwilight on Mar 8, 2010 12:03 PM EST up reply actions
haha instead of using his sack on Brady from like 05?
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I love watching his Yosemite Sam dance. Darn tootin’!
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by TheAfghanTwilight on Mar 8, 2010 12:47 PM EST up reply actions
haha. classic
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Just becaus they are paying him a signing bonus
doesnt mean hes in their plans K. The Eagles paid Vick’s because they believe he will get greater trade interest than hes received just yet. I think Nix is playing this very smart. 500 K is not that much in the world of the NFL and I believe – and maybe Nix agrees – that Kelsay will bring more in a trade when training camp rolls around and injuries start to his 4-3 teams. Nix and Gailey know they have time to try and rebuild this thing and nothing wrong with Nix trying to get a 4th in the 2011 draft for Kelsay then getting a 6th or 7th for him in this years draft. Teams could be desperate by training camp.
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Don't believe him K
doesnt mean hes in their plans K
Personally, I think it means exactly that….
(stirs pot while laughing hideously)
hahha Cinga!
We are trying to keep K OFF the ledge dammit! Not shove him off hahahaha
"you just have to know there's always going to be adversity. None of these games are going to be easy. Nothing will be given to us" - Paul Posluszny
So the Bills are driving up Kelsay's trade interest?
HAHA!
Do they not have film of him?
If a team wants him, that’s fine, but this isn’t being done to increase the interest in Kelsay.
Do you really think some team is going to be so desperate that they trade a 4th or 5th round pick for Chris Kelsay in the final year of his bloated deal??? Come on poz. It’s still morning, I can’t handle it!!!!
~K
"As the governor of Louisiana once said, the only way Chris Kelsay can lose his job is if he got caught in bed with a dead girl or a live boy."
K you must see through the red wall of anger! haha
they arent trying to drive up his trade value, they may just be anticipating that interest in him will go up as training camp rolls around and other teams ends get hurt or dont meet expectations. Losing a locker room leader may not be worth it to the Chan-Bud duo for a 7th rounder. If they can get even a 5th or 6th for him later its better to wait. Plus they can package him with other players or picks they arent ready to part with yet.
"you just have to know there's always going to be adversity. None of these games are going to be easy. Nothing will be given to us" - Paul Posluszny
I'm not angry
This team is too big of a complete mess to be angry.
I just don’t see how hanging on to him is going to increase his trade value or interest in him over time. Hanging onto him with the hopes that some team is decimated by summer injuries to their DE’s isn’t exactly something I’d be counting on….
~K
"As the governor of Louisiana once said, the only way Chris Kelsay can lose his job is if he got caught in bed with a dead girl or a live boy."
what about
throwing Kelsay into a trade to bring in a guy like Mike Vick so we dont have to give up as many or as good of a pick. There is a lot that can still happen, my friend.
"you just have to know there's always going to be adversity. None of these games are going to be easy. Nothing will be given to us" - Paul Posluszny
You're assuming Philly would want Kelsay
Why? They need a pass rusher, not a body.
~K
"As the governor of Louisiana once said, the only way Chris Kelsay can lose his job is if he got caught in bed with a dead girl or a live boy."
One word
Jauron…
I can see him now, sitting in Reid’s office, telling him how great Kelsay and Whitner are and how they’d make it to the next level with those 2!!!!
(as the elevator goes 3-2-1)
Severance pay?
After stealing so much from the team, he should be in jail, not collecting severance!!!
~K
"As the governor of Louisiana once said, the only way Chris Kelsay can lose his job is if he got caught in bed with a dead girl or a live boy."
Apparently they do or they’re too cheap to pony up and get a capable replacement. Kelsay has too stiff hips to be able to drop back into coverage and is way too slow to be an effective 3-4 OLB.
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by BillsfanfromDenmark on Mar 8, 2010 12:49 PM EST up reply actions
If it's going to be a hybrid defense...
…. it pays to have some 4-3 ends around.
Kelsay won’t start, but probably play in some sub-packages. He’s only around for another year.
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I sure hope you’re right, Jaeger, I really do…
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by BillsfanfromDenmark on Mar 9, 2010 1:38 AM EST up reply actions
thoughts
- I would love Joey Porter for 2 or 3 years while we draft his replacement. Talk about a good way to buy us some time, he George Edwards will know a lot about the Dolphins defense AND offense to game plan against, he has experience gameplanning for Tom Brady and the Jets which is a great thing for a vet to have on this young defense, hes still productive, and he has ATTITUDE something this team lacks. I think Joey Porter could be a significant veteran leader for this young Bills defense. Hes played on winners, hes played in this division and our defense is young. He has a lot to offer this team, especially young guys like Aaron Maybin, Jairus Byrd, and Leodis McKelvin before games in the division. Plus he knows the defensive coach and could help him implement his plan and get the players on board by being his voice on the field and in the locker room. More time to find an OLB while we focus on other areas is key.
- Dont know enough about Cornell Green except that he was 30 when he finally got a chance to start so he could get better and Tom Cable always talked him up. Neither of those things are very good reasons for optimism but whatever, he can play RT.
"you just have to know there's always going to be adversity. None of these games are going to be easy. Nothing will be given to us" - Paul Posluszny
I'd rather have Meredith than Green
If Green ends up our starting RT I’m gonna be freaking furious.
After last year it may sound crazy
but I think there are worse things in the world than going into next season with Bell and Meredith as our tackles if our QB isnt a rookie. Wouldn’t be a good thing but I don’t know if it would be a disaster. So in a word, yes I kind of agree with you
"you just have to know there's always going to be adversity. None of these games are going to be easy. Nothing will be given to us" - Paul Posluszny
Yea
I don’t mind watching either a veteran stop gap or Ryan Fitzpatrick get the crap pounded out of them every week. As long as the young guy’s get to play.
for sure
I’m on board too. If Vick or Fitzy are starting at QB I think Bell and Meredith could use the development time while a we try to fix other areas. Of course if we get Bradford in round 1 that idea goes out the window.
"you just have to know there's always going to be adversity. None of these games are going to be easy. Nothing will be given to us" - Paul Posluszny
Chris Kelsay
Unbelievable. The guy is lucky he landed with the stupid Bills because he is a lot richer than he would have been with any other NFL team.
by csc06258 on Mar 8, 2010 12:11 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
Spot on. The Bills are the welfare service of the NFL :}
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by BillsfanfromDenmark on Mar 8, 2010 12:50 PM EST up reply actions
The Bills Motto: Underachiever? Lacking talent? No problem! Come play for the Bills and you’ll make more money than you would anywhere else thanks to our god awful talent evaluation staff and willingness to help out the little guy!
Hopefully those days are a thing of the past…
Porter
He is not comin to Buffalo ,he has a sick child that is in Cali,visits his child everyweek needs to be close to home.I would love it but do not think so.
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not that I dont believe you or anything.
but how do you know this?
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by norcaliangelsfan on Mar 8, 2010 2:32 PM EST up reply actions
Pretty sure they referenced it in an ESPN article. Couldn’t tell you which one, but it was definitely recent.
Official ledge-talker-offer of the Buffalo Bills.
oh okay.........
thanks.
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by norcaliangelsfan on Mar 8, 2010 3:27 PM EST up reply actions
found something on it
http://nflnr.com/2010/03/buffalo-bills-very-interested-in-linebacker-joey-porter/
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- by Jsz on Mar 3, 2010 6:25 PM PST
geographically speaking
Buffalo is no further from Cali than Miami. There may be reasons, but, I don’t think sheer geography is one of them. He also played for Pittsburgh. Again, same “longitude”.
"huge, big, fast, nasty...all those terms"
true...
Hes been an east-coaster his whole career
"Its always Miller Time
Whens it gonna be Sabres-Offense Time?"
- by Jsz on Mar 3, 2010 6:25 PM PST
Maybe that is why he seems so agitated
: )
by NorCal BillsFan on Mar 8, 2010 4:12 PM EST up reply actions
Draft McClain
Dah!
With the 3/4 defense you need youth and talent at the linebacker position.
Our back eight will be solid if we draft McClain.
Porter is not the answer.
CB/T.McGee SS/B.Scott FS/J.Byrd CB/L.McKelvin
OLB/K.Mitchell ILB/R.McClain ILB/P.Posluszny OLB/A.Maybin
trade D.Whitner to hometown Cleveland and a future third round pick to get a 2nd round pick in this years draft.
Then draft C.Wootton DE for our 3/4 defense.
Buffalo should not draft McClain
The 3-4 has room for one weakside ILB. Posluszny is already that guy. Mitchell is better suited to play weakside ILB than strongside.
The strongside ILB needs to be a big, physical guy that primarily takes on blockers, allowing the weakside ILB to make plays. Think Jeff Ulbrich, Matt Wilhelm, Akin Ayodele, etc. Not talents like McClain. McClain, while a great college player and pro prospect, would be a talent wasted at Mike ILB.
Unless we play on moving Posluszny. Then is makes sense.
Quit, don't quit? Noodles, don't noodles? You are too concerned about what was and what will be. There is a saying: yesterday is history, tomorrow is a mystery, but today is a gift. That is why it is called the "present." --Oogway
I dont think anyone on this site has ever read these responses
lol, every other post has a Draft McClain comment complete with the Poz/McClain endorsement
someone should write a post with all the things like this that people are begging for that wouldnt work so it could be linked as a respnse instead of typing that up every time
we the FANS the VOICE the PEOPLE the true BLOOD of the Buffalo BILLS are just doing all this SO mAYBE just MAYbe the Coach THE teAM will just see how us the FANS the the SPARTAN aka BUFARTAN we will not Surrender to know onE.
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by uPitt_BillsFan on Mar 8, 2010 11:16 PM EST up reply actions
Yea, sorry I don't get a chance to check the boards that often, and
don’t mostly read every threads comments but I’m well aware that the weakside aspect of McClain and Poz, one and I think Poz could move to the strong side and play in a rotation with Mitchell. Then, adding McClain would be adding a playmaker and depth to the LB core and could be a great ILB. If OBD feels that he is the BPA and fits a need, they could very well take him, I understand about the fact that him and Poz are Will’s but why not? We never know what is going to happen for Buffalo untill they’re on the clock and usually it’s the last player we expect, for better for worse. I think he could make our entire LB crew much more talented and help with out 3-4 transition. As is well documented I’m in favor of, in no order; Buluga, Okung, Clausen, McClain, A Davis.
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by SouthBuffaloNDgrad on Mar 8, 2010 11:31 PM EST up reply actions
If McClain is still on the board.
But if he’s still available I would love to bring him to Buffalo, him and Poz could be one of the best 3-4 ILB duo of all the 3-4’s. Have Schobel, Maybin, Kawika run the OLB’s and rotate Kawika to the inside on certain packages. I love McClain, if we don’t go OT or QB but if we do then Porter could be the extra OLB with Schobel and Maybin, then have Poz and Kawika man the middle with Kawika moving to the outside on run downs.
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by SouthBuffaloNDgrad on Mar 8, 2010 5:22 PM EST up reply actions
3/4
The back 8 in the 3/4 defense should go like this if we draft McClain.
CB/T.McGee FS/J.Byrd SS/B.Scott CB/L.McKelvin OLB/A.Maybin ILB/P.Posluszny ILB/R.McClain OLB/C.Kelsay with K.Mitchell/E.Ellison in th erotation.
Trade D.Whitner and next years second round pick to Cleveland for their first round pick or second round pick. Draft then C.Wootton DE for the front three. Also draft J.ODrick as our NT with our second round pick.
Draft in the third round M.Rolle/SS if still available or K.Calloway/OT Iowa as our RT.
I would love to se Myronn Rolle in a Bills uni, I'm also a fan of K Calloway (4-6 Rnd).
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by SouthBuffaloNDgrad on Mar 9, 2010 6:23 PM EST reply actions
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