MMQB - Yes - Peter King
by J2 on Mar 8, 2010 10:54 AM EST
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i am rec'n the recnosity out of your rec
FA is a joke. Washed up overpaid NFL players are like money you waste on strippers. They are supposed to fill a dire need, but they are grossly overpriced and they leave you saying “what was I thinking.”
MARVelous - "I went from America's team to North America's Team" Terrell Owens
draft....
You could manipulate the draft to make it look over rated as well.
Agreed, but look at Nate Washington
In general, this post makes a very sound point, but I would call attention to Nate Washington, who I really wanted the Bills to sign last year. He cost a little more than Terrell Owns (there was a sizable signing bonus in that $7.8 million — he’s only getting about $6 million per year) and put up decent numbers on a team that had lots of instability at QB last year. He also caught 6 TD passes. If we had signed him instead of T.O. we would now have a solid #2 WR on our roster to compete with Hardy instead of having to go out and pick up a retread like Kelley Washington or Bobby Wade. That was an opportunity missed.
Really?
From the department of “you can make statistics say whatever you want” a closer lok at his stats reveals…
7 of his catches came in a blowout loss to JAC in week 4 where it was bombs away in the 4th quarter
6 of his catches came in a meaningless week 17 win over SEA where it was run the out pattern for the bus
That leaves 34 catches over the remaining 14 games…a whopping 2.5 catches per.
Opportunity missed…GOOD!
FA is what it is....
a method for vested veterans to earn big paydays later in their careers…. Many of them, on the downside…. And to force teams to pay more for the talent they have on hand…. It’s sad really, because ultimately, it’s us, the fans, who really pay the price… Not only in money, but in your ability to dump your heart into the team, the team that is constantly changing faces….
Anyone remember the days that we got to watch a player on our team, from start to finish throughout his career? Even our 90s Bills were torn apart at the end because of the cap for FA trade off…. Kelly and Hull retired as Bills, were there any others?
by Cinga on Mar 8, 2010 11:37 AM EST reply actions 1 recs
Thurman signed a one-day contract to retire as a Bill. I’m not sure if anybody else did.
by Dr. Brackish Okun on Mar 9, 2010 1:36 PM EST up reply actions
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what you are preaching is generally correct, I’m a bit suprised by how many Bills fans have gotten upset on these boards the last few days considering we KNEW in advance that Nix wasnt going to dive head first into free agency.
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Smart post
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The NFL:
a what have you done for me lately league. NFL Free Agency is a “what have you done for someone else in the past” way of conducting business.
I will say this about that list of WRs above: The Bills made out pretty well with Owens. He’s 2nd on that list, behind only Whooseyourdaddy.
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by TheAfghanTwilight on Mar 8, 2010 1:34 PM EST reply actions
If FA agenecy is such a joke.....
Then why do these guys keep getting paid like they do? To put fans in the seats? For the shot of signing the next Drew Brees? To help your team short term while you develop a younger player? The stats dont always tell the full story.
Look at the teams those guys got signed by….Bucs, Bungals, Bills, Seahawks, Niners, Jags and the Titans (a run first team). Could anyone have put up good numbers on those teams?
Nice job
I even waited to click on this as I expected it to be about Peter King or some asinine thing he said.
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Brandon Jones 49ers $5.4 million 1 18 0 49ers
I totally forgot about this guy. Most overpaid player in the NFL last year???
~K
"As the governor of Louisiana once said, the only way Chris Kelsay can lose his job is if he got caught in bed with a dead girl or a live boy."
I even waited to click on this as I expected it to be about Peter King or some asinine thing he said.
hahaha – it IS Peter Kings. it’s his MMQB. thought you’d click on the link….. i’ll edit the headline
We got the tools, We got the talent
by J2 on Mar 8, 2010 3:14 PM EST up reply actions
Oh I know
But I thought the entire post would be about King, that’s why I waited.
Why would I unrec it? I thought you did a great job.
~K
"As the governor of Louisiana once said, the only way Chris Kelsay can lose his job is if he got caught in bed with a dead girl or a live boy."
so unrec it if you want to – just thought it’d get more attention here. especially with all the discussions being had this past weekend
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by J2 on Mar 8, 2010 3:16 PM EST up reply actions
Most overpaid player in the NFL last year???
Roscoe Parrish
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by MattRichWarren on Mar 8, 2010 3:17 PM EST up reply actions
Brandon Jones had ONE reception
Even Roscoe had 3. He made what, $3M?
~K
"As the governor of Louisiana once said, the only way Chris Kelsay can lose his job is if he got caught in bed with a dead girl or a live boy."
LOL. Yeah. Sorry. Didn’t read the state line.
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by MattRichWarren on Mar 9, 2010 10:11 AM EST up reply actions
Most Insane Contract Ever?
A blast from the past.
http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=2786253
There's not a wide receiver who is fast enough, that J.P. Losman can't overthrow him on a fly pattern.
by The Buffalo Kid on Mar 8, 2010 11:10 PM EST up reply actions
Javon Walker made 14 million dollars over two years and caught one TD pass and had something like 20 receptions.
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by MattRichWarren on Mar 9, 2010 10:11 AM EST up reply actions
Touche!
Yeah that was an insane contract. I agree, he never was the same dominant player he was in Green Bay after he tore up ligaments and just degraded from there.
There's not a wide receiver who is fast enough, that J.P. Losman can't overthrow him on a fly pattern.
by The Buffalo Kid on Mar 9, 2010 11:00 PM EST up reply actions
most bang
it probably won’t give anyone that warm fuzzy feeling, but looking at that WR list, at least the Bills arguably got the most bang for the buck last year
Pretend the Bills had signed Karlos Dansby...
Would this linked story have 10 recs in the first couple hours after being posted? My guess is no.
Rationalization might be the only thing to hold onto. It is funny that when Peter King writes something that is fashionable at the moment, this happens, but 99% of the time Peter King is a cuss word.
I am not calling anyone out. I am having a hard time trying to find my happy place as much as anyone.
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i agree that its funny how most rip King and hes getting praise here
but its deserved. Free agency for a rebuilding team is all about depth and/or fill in starters that can have draft stars slotted in around them. Those types of guys aren’t usually signed in the first weekend of free agency. ESPN called this last weekend “free agency weekend” because they are trying to market it knowing everyone tunes in to see where Julius Peppers or Karlos Dansby or or Brandon Marshall wind up. But its a silly marketing ploy. The real leg work in free agency happens this week or next.
Was a 29 year old Dansby going to be a major force in our rebuild? Maybe, but probably not worth the contract he’d demand.
"you just have to know there's always going to be adversity. None of these games are going to be easy. Nothing will be given to us" - Paul Posluszny
What most people don’t like about King is the inflated opinions he has. Well that and stupid Coffeenerdness and Aggravating travel notes. His subtance is very good in my opinion. This is substanative.
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by MattRichWarren on Mar 9, 2010 10:13 AM EST up reply actions
Peter King is funny. In this article he goes on telling us how free agency is overrated and that teams that are active early in free agency are foolish. Ok, fine.
Then he lists the Chicago Bears as one of his winners based on signing Peppers, et al. And he criticizes the Patriots for not signing a big name receiver yet.
I guess he forgot what he wrote on the previous page.
But if you really want comedy, his Big Ben take:
So without being judgmental … if Roethlisberger is without fault, it still is utterly preposterous he puts himself in these situations. If Roethlisberger is without fault, he has to re-think who he associates with, and he has to re-think whether it’s a very good idea to be hanging around college bars at 2 in the morning. If Roethlisberger is at fault, the issues are entirely different. If he’s at fault, he has got to grow up. So we’ll see.
So if Roethlisberger committed sexual assault he simply will need to grow up?? I wonder what his reaction would be if it was one of his whipping boys like TO. I’m guessing the response wouldn’t be the same.
I saw the same thing, Pistol. I better stop writing, or I’m going to write some things about Peter King that I’ll regret.
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It is actually ridiculous
how much leniency Big Ben has gotten in these accusations. If this was Marshawn Lynch he would be brandished a thug and would have been suspended by Goodell already. The NFL is trying to protect its most winning current QB and its getting out of hand. A motorcycle accident and two accusations of sexual misconduct……if this was most any other player but a superstar QB the media would be singing a much harsher tune.
"you just have to know there's always going to be adversity. None of these games are going to be easy. Nothing will be given to us" - Paul Posluszny
Agreed, and this coming from a guy (me) who rarely takes sexual assault accusations at face value. But at the very, very least, Big Ben keeps putting himself in some awfully stupid situations.
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by thefourwinds on Mar 8, 2010 10:52 PM EST up reply actions
I’m noting that I agree with King on that point. But on the point where King said,
If he’s at fault, he has got to grow up.
that’s what I find laughably stupid.
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by thefourwinds on Mar 8, 2010 10:54 PM EST up reply actions
If he’s at fault, he has got to grow up.
I agree,
If he’s at fault, he needs to o to Jail,
Sexual assault is a much more egregious offense than shooting yourself in the foot without a permit a’la Plaxico.
There's not a wide receiver who is fast enough, that J.P. Losman can't overthrow him on a fly pattern.
by The Buffalo Kid on Mar 8, 2010 11:50 PM EST up reply actions
What did Plax get?
2 years if I remember?
He hurt no one but his own dumb self,
If Rothlisberger is guilty for real, he deserves at least 4x years in the slammer than Plaxico Burress got. Plax could have been OK if he just got himself a permit for his gun, there are no permits for sexual assault.
There's not a wide receiver who is fast enough, that J.P. Losman can't overthrow him on a fly pattern.
by The Buffalo Kid on Mar 8, 2010 11:59 PM EST up reply actions
I’m not a gun supporter, but it seems really unfair to me how if Plax was in Florida, he’d have faced no penalty for his actions. So he’s a criminal in NYS, but just an idiot in FL.
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by TheAfghanTwilight on Mar 10, 2010 2:17 PM EST up reply actions
ya – then people wanted Guiliani to run for president….
We got the tools, We got the talent
by J2 on Mar 10, 2010 2:26 PM EST up reply actions
That’s like saying it’s unfair to get a speeding ticket going 65 in a 45. Rules change from town to town, state to state. You have to know the laws of where you are. It’s not like Plax was in a place he had never been. He lives in NYC and knows the gun laws there. Not attacking you Afghan, I don’t like people making excuses for not following the rules.
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by MattRichWarren on Mar 11, 2010 10:06 AM EST up reply actions
What is he even trying to say?
Only immature people commit sexual assault?
I don’t think growing up is what he’d need to do. I think doing some time might be closer to what needs to happen….
~K
"As the governor of Louisiana once said, the only way Chris Kelsay can lose his job is if he got caught in bed with a dead girl or a live boy."
by Kurupt on Mar 9, 2010 12:22 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
What is he even trying to say?
Only immature people commit sexual assault?
And this guy works for SI.
MAJOR FOOT IN THE MOUTH!
There's not a wide receiver who is fast enough, that J.P. Losman can't overthrow him on a fly pattern.
by The Buffalo Kid on Mar 9, 2010 1:38 AM EST up reply actions
I don’t think growing up is what he’d need to do. I think doing some time might be closer to what needs to happen….
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couldn’t agree more – he’s a scumbag. when you hear about something once or maybe twice you can say well maybe it didn’t happen that way. but we’ve heard this at least 4 times if not more.
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by J2 on Mar 9, 2010 8:29 AM EST up reply actions
Four times?
~K
"As the governor of Louisiana once said, the only way Chris Kelsay can lose his job is if he got caught in bed with a dead girl or a live boy."
http://nfl.fanhouse.com/2010/03/05/ben-roethlisberger-accused-of-sexual-assault-again/
these 2 – one from college that I remember being brought up then the motorcycle. meant 4 incidents
he’s got a lot of growing up to do
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by J2 on Mar 9, 2010 10:45 AM EST up reply actions
If this was Marshawn Lynch he would be brandished a thug and would have been suspended by Goodell already. The NFL is trying to protect its most winning current QB and its getting out of hand.
I disagree. The NFL is very patient with the legal process to play out before they act.
I honestly feel
if this was any other player but Big Ben, Peyton Manning, Tom Brady and a few others, Goodell would have had a sit down with them by now.
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by poz on Mar 9, 2010 8:19 PM EST up reply actions
Good Post....
Changed my perspective a little on what’s going on this off season…..but we still have to bring in some talent here
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T.O. is tied for the lowest cost per touchdown of all the FA WR’s last season. Guess that means OBD did the best job WR-wise in FA last year. Who’d a thunk it? Of course the only thing you’ll hear is what a bust he was and how stupid the Bills were for signing him. oh well.
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