Rumblings 2010 NFL Mock Draft, V1.0
Excuse the self-indulgence this fine Tuesday afternoon, folks, but I can't not post a mock draft anymore. I've been trying to abstain, but the lure of talking about the league at large, as well as exploring the impact of free agency and the NFL Combine on draft possibilities, is too great for me to ignore further.
This is a Buffalo Bills website, and as such, I'll spend most of my analytical time in this post talking about Buffalo's No. 9 overall pick. But I'll try to justify the rest of the selections as well, and I'm guessing that the majority of you don't mind digging your fingers into a league-wide mock anyway. Please note, however, that this mock is entirely mine, and was composed without the help of the rest of the Rumblings Scouting Staff, which includes Der Jaeger, kaisertown, gatornation and sireric.
The mock is after the jump. It includes only first-round picks, and after we get through those 32 selections, we'll talk briefly about Buffalo's Round 2 options based on this (altogether-too-early) projection. I anticipate some of you will have ammo to rip me new orifices, as well, so have fun with that, to those of you who feel so inclined. Let's go!
1. St. Louis Rams (1-15): Sam Bradford, QB, Oklahoma
St. Louis, in the past two years, has passed on Matt Ryan and Mark Sanchez. Marc Bulger seems to be out of the picture. I have a hard time believing that Billy Devaney and Steve Spagnuolo will be comfortable letting A.J. Feeley and Keith Null battle it out for the starting job. St. Louis absolutely have to go quarterback here, regardless of how much better some other prospects are than Sam Bradford. That doesn't make Bradford a bad pick, either; particularly in St. Louis, he should be in line for a solid, sustained career.
2. Detroit Lions (2-14): Ndamukong Suh, DT, Nebraska
I really, really like Jim Schwartz. I think he's one of the elite young coaches in the game, and he, along with Detroit's front office, have that franchise pointed in the right direction. Detroit values physical players, and they absolutely will not pass on elite talent to fill a need position (if you recall, they passed on Michael Oher in favor of Brandon Pettigrew a year ago). If Suh is here, Suh will absolutely be the pick, and Detroit will be much, much better for it.
3. Tampa Bay Buccaneers (3-13): Gerald McCoy, DT, Oklahoma
There really isn't much to say about this pick. McCoy has been projected as the ideal fit for the Buccaneers since he announced he'd enter the 2010 Draft, and that hasn't changed. He fits perfectly with what Raheem Morris would like to do defensively, and he also happens to be the best player remaining on the board.
4. Washington Redskins (4-12): Russell Okung, OT, Oklahoma State
I still think Washington would like to get a quarterback. I'm just not sure that quarterback is Jimmy Clausen. I'm not sure it isn't Jimmy Clausen, either, and he's certainly an option with this selection. I'm not sold on the idea of Clausen-to-Washington, however, and the Redskins have been surprisingly conservative this off-season under GM Bruce Allen and head coach Mike Shanahan. I don't think they'll gamble here, which makes the safe, reliable Okung a smart investment at a huge position of need in D.C.
5. Kansas City Chiefs (4-12): Bryan Bulaga, OT, Iowa
Scott Pioli is a known commodity on draft day. He has a method - build the lines and don't pass on premium positions. He's close to the antithesis of an Ozzie Newsome; he's perfectly capable of passing on the best talent available to fill a need position player that fits the system, which he did a year ago when he chose Tyson Jackson at No. 3 overall in lieu of Aaron Curry. Kansas City isn't sold on Branden Albert as their long-term answer at LT, and Bulaga will get solid recommendation from a trusted Pioli confidant, Iowa head coach Kirk Ferentz.
6. Seattle Seahawks (5-11): C.J. Spiller, RB, Clemson
This is a really tough pick to project in this scenario, because the Seahawks could take either Spiller, Eric Berry or Jimmy Clausen without batting an eye. All three would be tremendous additions for Seattle, and there are fantastic reasons to project any of them in this spot. In the end, I think Pete Carroll will target the guy who can give them the biggest immediate impact - that's Spiller. I'm not sure the need for a franchise quarterback is pressing enough out west to pass on a player as generally coveted as Spiller, particularly if division-rival San Francisco is hot for Spiller as well.
7. Cleveland Browns (5-11): Eric Berry, SS, Tennessee
Mike Holmgren can really go in any number of directions with this pick, because the Browns need playmakers pretty much all over the roster. Berry is the best player available, fits the playmaker mold, and would provide help to a Browns secondary that, quite frankly, needs an infusion of talent across the board. This should be an easy pick for Holmgren to make in this scenario.
8. Oakland Raiders (5-11): Bruce Campbell, OT, Maryland
I really hate making this pick, because it's just so obvious. It's painful, really, how bizarrely, pitifully predictable the Raiders are on draft day. There are really only three possibilities here - Campbell, Jason Pierre-Paul and Taylor Mays. Sorry, Raider fans. I hated putting Darrius Heyward-Bey here last year, and I hate putting Campbell here, but really, how can anyone argue against it? Besides, the Raiders did just lose the venerable Cornell Green.
9. Buffalo Bills (6-10): Dan Williams, NT, Tennessee
Here's how I believe Buddy Nix will approach his first draft in Buffalo - he'll target the team's biggest needs early, and in each round, he'll pick the best player he can get from those need positions. There's little debate as to what the Bills' biggest need areas are. They need a quarterback. They need a left tackle. They need a nose tackle, and they need pass rushers.
Following that proposed formula, I think at this point in time, Dan Williams gets the nod over Jimmy Clausen, Trent Williams and any of a number of pass rushers, including Brandon Graham and Derrick Morgan, a Chan Gailey recruit at Georgia Tech.
Dan Williams is a slight reach here, but I don't think that will matter to Nix. Williams is a big, tough, physical run-stuffer that is absolutely capable of manning the two-gap nose guard spot in a traditional 3-4 look. He's also schematically versatile, meaning that if defensive coordinator George Edwards wants to put in some 4-3 looks to mix things up and tailor to personnel, Williams won't have to leave the field. There are concerns about Williams' work ethic, but he really took to an old-timer, pro-style coach last year in Monte Kiffin, and shouldn't have a problem transitioning to the NFL.
I nearly pulled the trigger on Trent Williams. Nearly. He surprised some folks with his athleticism at the Combine, and he's always had the ability to play either side. Many scouts are partially attributing his struggles on the left side in his senior season at Oklahoma to the lack of talent around him on the line, as well as his minor injuries. In the end, however, I think Dan ever so slightly trumps Trent, and while the Bills still have a gaping hole at QB and LT, they get their 3-4 anchor at OK value.
On Mr. Clausen: I do think he's a legitimate possibility if he's available here, but I don't think Nix is married to the idea of absolutely having to draft a quarterback at this spot. Call it a hunch if you want - that's what I'm doing - but I don't think Nix is particularly high on Clausen. He was a distant third in making this pick, though again, he's certainly a possibility.
10. Jacksonville Jaguars (7-9): Dez Bryant, WR, Oklahoma State
The signing of Aaron Kampman has really thrown mock drafters off, because the Jaguars can really go in a lot of directions with this pick. DE is still an option, and Derrick Morgan would be a solid pick here, but it seems unlikely that a franchise as fiscally ravaged as Jacksonville would invest so much money in one position. The Jags could look to complement Maurice Jones-Drew in the backfield, and I'm rather high on Fresno State RB Ryan Mathews. Rolando McClain makes a lot of sense here. But the Jaguars, aside from MJD, really lack talent offensively, and despite his injury and poor Combine interviews, I don't see Dez Bryant slipping very far on draft day.
11. Denver Broncos (f/CHI): Brandon Graham, OLB, Michigan
Josh McDaniels is a New England disciple, and Brandon Graham is a New England type of guy. Elvis Dumervil has been a monumentally pleasant surprise for the Broncos, but Denver could really use a player or two to keep attention off one of the league's premier young pass rushers. Graham is a highly productive player against both the pass and the run, and his game complements Dumervil's very well. This might be a touch high, because Graham isn't a Top 10 prospect based purely on talent, but he's a tremendous fit for Denver nonetheless.
12. Miami Dolphins (7-9): Jason Pierre-Paul, OLB, South Florida
Bill Parcells raised some eyebrows during the 2005 NFL Draft when, as head coach in Dallas, he brought in small-school prospect DeMarcus Ware with the No. 11 overall pick. Eyebrows were raised, but yeah - that pick has worked out relatively well for Dallas. Miami needs pass rushers, and with Jason Taylor and Cameron Wake still on board, they can afford to be patient with a guy that I believe is straight up the best athlete in the draft. Pierre-Paul can help Miami's pass rush as a rookie, even as just a situational guy, and his potential is enormous.
13. San Francisco 49ers (8-8): Trent Williams, OT, Oklahoma
The one player that makes the most sense, to me, for the 49ers is C.J. Spiller. San Francisco has the makings of an explosive offense with Michael Crabtree and Vernon Davis catching passes, but Frank Gore isn't getting any younger, and the Niners could use another home run threat for Alex Smith. With two first-round picks, they have the ammo to go get Spiller if they really want him, but they'd probably be better served hanging in there and getting two guys should they miss on Spiller. Williams is a terrific fit under Mike Singletary and would become the team's starter at right tackle immediately.
14. Seattle Seahawks (f/DEN): Jimmy Clausen, QB, Notre Dame
I'm fairly certain Seahawks fans would be dancing in the streets if this scenario came to fruition. Spiller was a terrific pick for them at No. 6, but Clausen would have been very smart as well, particularly given Carroll's familiarity with the Southern Cal prospect. Clausen gets to sit for a year behind Matt Hasselbeck and ease himself into Carroll's system. I'm not sure Seattle could get away with gambling on letting Clausen slide come late April, but it's logical for the time being. I do think that Clausen will end up with Seattle if Washington passes on him.
15. New York Giants (8-8): Derrick Morgan, DE, Georgia Tech
The obvious pick here is Rolando McClain, and while I remain very high on Alabama's inside linebacker, I'm not sure he's a snug fit for the Giants, whose defense, if you recall, will be called up by former Bills defensive coordinator Perry Fewell. GM Jerry Reese is still calling the shots, and he's been known to stock up on defensive linemen. He's lost a few names there, and could lose another one if Osi Umenyiora whines his way out of the Big Apple. Morgan is a terrific value pick here and instantly restores the Giants' excellent depth up front.
16. Tennessee Titans (8-8): Joe Haden, CB, Florida
Don't buy Haden dropping much lower than the middle of the first round - he's still got a pro day to improve his slow 40 time, and scouts don't put much credence in those numbers, anyway, if the player shows up on tape. Haden definitely shows up on tape. The Titans need to bolster their defense, and all things equal, I think they'd prefer to add an end here. Everson Griffen would make a great deal of sense and fit what the Titans like to do defensively under Jeff Fisher, but Haden is too good a player to pass on, and the Titans could use players in the defensive backfield.
17. San Francisco 49ers (f/CAR): Kyle Wilson, CB, Boise State
I really like the idea of Ryan Mathews here, but I don't think he's enough of a big play threat to warrant selecting from San Francisco's perspective. Mike Singletary likes tough, physical, instinctual players - he was one himself, after all - and pound for pound, Wilson ranks amongst the draft's elite in those categories. He's a great athlete, a very good return man, and excels in press coverage. San Fran really needs to bolster their cornerback position, and Wilson is a great fit here.
18. Pittsburgh Steelers (9-7): Rolando McClain, ILB, Alabama
Don't be surprised if McClain slides. Linebackers always slide; just ask Rey Maualuga. Scouts have poked holes in McClain's game, openly wondering if he's athletic enough for the 4-3 or tough enough to man either 3-4 inside linebacker spot. It won't matter if he gets to Pittsburgh, if you ask me, because he's a tremendous talent that would look great as an eventual replacement to James Farrior (35). This is too good a fit for Kevin Colbert and Mike Tomlin to pass on, even though they typically don't invest their bigger resources in inside linebackers.
19. Atlanta Falcons (9-7): Everson Griffen, DE, USC
GM Tom Dimitroff is another New England/Bill Belichick disciple, and like Scott Pioli, he typically targets positional players (like Sam Baker) before top talents. Here, he fills a need position with one of the higher-upside prospects available; Griffen truly does possess elite talent, and some 3-4 teams are even intrigued with his athleticism. Atlanta needs to improve its pass rush dramatically if it hopes to close the gap on Drew Brees and New Orleans' elite aerial attack.
20. Houston Texans (9-7): Ryan Mathews, RB, Fresno State
A lot of people expect the Texans to go defense in an effort to, like Atlanta and New Orleans, try to close the gap on Indianapolis, who have ruled the AFC South for practically the past decade. There are a few defenders here that would make a great deal of sense, most notably Texas safety Earl Thomas. But Gary Kubiak remains an offensive-minded coach, and the Texans are a reliable, heady running back away from having one of the top three or four offensive attacks in the league. Ryan Mathews wouldn't necessarily be a value pick for Houston, but they'd get a lot of production for their troubles. Steve Slaton was a tremendous disappointment a year ago.
21. Cincinnati Bengals (10-6): Jermaine Gresham, TE, Oklahoma
Cincinnati proved last year that they can compete with the big boys of the AFC North behind an excellent running game and a solid, if unspectacular, defense. Their ultimate downfall, however, was getting absolutely nothing out of Carson Palmer and the passing attack in clutch situations. Palmer's not going anywhere, and the team is talking to Terrell Owens and Antonio Bryant about teaming up with Chad Ochocinco. The team does, however, lack a playmaker at tight end, and Gresham makes so much sense here that it'd surprise me if he's not ultimately the pick, even this far in advance of the actual selection meeting.
22. New England Patriots (10-6): Jared Odrick, DE, Penn State
The trade of Richard Seymour, while obviously a great move for the Patriots from the future tense, really left their front seven in tatters a year ago. Bill Belichick toyed with 4-3 looks, had players out of position, and really, it was just a mess. They got absolutely steamrolled by Baltimore in their own house in the first round of the playoffs; that's unheard of in Boston. The need for defensive talent is dire enough that I think Belichick will just pick the best players he can find in that area, and in this scenario, Odrick makes a lot of sense. He's a very underrated prospect that can help the Pats against both the run and the pass.
23. Green Bay Packers (11-5): Charles Brown, OT, USC
The Packers are something of an NFL anomaly in that they've built a high-powered, incredibly consistent passing attack in one of the coldest, most difficult weather cities in the NFL. That's OK - go with what works, and the attack led by Aaron Rodgers definitely works. The team brought back Chad Clifton to play left tackle, but he played left tackle a year ago, and the team really struggled to protect Rodgers. Charles Brown is a highly underrated prospect with tremendous short-area athleticism, and he'd fit in well with a passing-oriented offense. He's good value here and a great fit for Rodgers' blind side, and best yet, they don't have to play him right away if they don't think he's ready.
24. Philadelphia Eagles (11-5): Sean Weatherspoon, OLB, Missouri
Here's another pick that you'll see in almost every mock draft out there, and for good reason - it makes a great deal of sense. Philly just released '09 acquisition Will Witherspoon, and they're hurting for depth at linebacker in a bad way. Seriously, folks - they signed Jeremiah Trotter last year. They need help there, and not only is Weatherspoon one of the safest picks in the draft, but he's an excellent fit in Sean McDermott's defensive scheme as well as burgeoning leader.
25. Baltimore Ravens (9-7): Earl Thomas, FS, Texas
If there's one thing that Ozzie Newsome will always do, it's draft a guy that fits the identity of the Baltimore Ravens. There is no NFL team more clearly defined in terms of what they like to do, and where they excel, than Baltimore. Ed Reed isn't retiring, but he's hinted at it strongly enough to make safety a legitimate option, and Earl Thomas has the look of some sort of super-Jairus Byrd. Thomas has outstanding ball skills and is a tremendous athlete, and he's capable of playing corner while Reed continues to man the free safety spot. Thomas is too good a player to pass on here.
26. Arizona Cardinals (10-6): Anthony Davis, OT, Rutgers
I've been a supporter of Davis all along, and while I still think that, on tape, he's at or near the top of this year's draft class at the tackle position, I won't pretend that his Combine workout didn't have a negative effect on his draft stock, particularly when talking about his poor interview reviews. Davis is a really solid talent and should go higher based on this, but in this scenario, he's a great fit for Ken Whisenhunt and the Cards. Mike Gandy and Jeremy Bridges are free agents, and Davis is a much better tackle prospect than either of them. He'd team up with Levi Brown to give the Cardinals solid, physical bookends at tackle.
27. Dallas Cowboys (11-5): Mike Iupati, OG, Idaho
All signs point toward the Cowboys addressing the offensive line, where the status of aging left tackle Flozell Adams is a huge concern in Big D. I don't think Dallas is a lock to draft a lineman, but I think they'd be sorely tempted by a big, physical mauler like Mike Iupati. Dallas loves that type of lineman - they employ them across the board - and Iupati is versatile enough to slide out to (right) tackle should a team feel so inclined. That doesn't necessarily solve the problem at left tackle, I realize, but if Iupati played right tackle, Doug Free is capable of sliding to the left side. This doesn't necessarily fill a need for Dallas, but it's a great identity fit nonetheless, and pretty good value as well.
28. San Diego Chargers (13-3): Sergio Kindle, OLB, Texas
This is a really tough pick to get a read on with Spiller and Mathews off the board, because I don't think it's exactly a reach to guess that running back is San Diego's biggest need area. The team could go with a guy like Jahvid Best here, but I don't think they'll reach for a guy they don't necessarily like. The team could also add a defensive lineman to play end or, if they don't get Jamal Williams back, nose tackle, but there aren't any great end prospects available here, and Terrence Cody is fairly universally viewed as a second-round talent. The team can, however, stock up on pass rushers, particularly with Shawne Merriman coming off a down year. Sergio Kindle is an excellent athlete and fits the Chargers' defensive scheme quite well.
29. New York Jets (9-7): Kareem Jackson, CB, Alabama
There are a bunch of directions the Jets could go with this pick, but knowing Rex Ryan's style, it's fairly obvious that they'll be going after a defender unless a top offensive prospect falls. Again, the defensive line is a possibility here, and I very nearly penciled in UCLA DT Brian Price at this spot. But I'm going with Kareem Jackson, even if the Jets did just trade for Antonio Cromartie to team up with all-world corner Darrelle Revis. Cromartie is still a gamble, and even if that gamble pays off, the Jets could use depth all around in their secondary. Jackson is quickly climbing draft boards and will probably go much higher than this, but in this scenario, he's great value and a great fit in Ryan's scheme.
30. Minnesota Vikings (12-4): Brian Price, DT, UCLA
This is a pick you'll see made frequently as well, and again, it makes a lot of sense. Pat Williams isn't getting any younger, and Price might be the best player left on the board anyway; he could go as high as the teens, too. He'd probably be a depth player to start, but in Leslie Frazier's defensive scheme, he's an outstanding fit, and would work very well lining up next to Kevin Williams over the long haul. Running back is a popular possibility, as well, but I anticipate the Vikings will go the veteran route there.
31. Indianapolis Colts (14-2): Maurkice Pouncey, C, Florida
The Colts released their starting guard from the Super Bowl, Ryan Lilja, and if that doesn't signal where Bill Polian will probably concentrate his efforts this off-season, I don't know what does. Pouncey is an excellent, versatile, smart prospect that should pick up Indy's system quickly. He'll play guard until Jeff Saturday retires, at which point he'll become the Colts' new starting center. Terrific fit here.
32. New Orleans Saints (13-3): Jerry Hughes, OLB, TCU
Scott Fujita, an excellent pass-rushing linebacker, is off to Cleveland, and the Saints, behind defensive coordinator Gregg Williams, could use a boost to their pass rush anyway. Hughes brings great athleticism and versatility to the table, and he's endearing to a lot of NFL scouts because of his excellent collegiate production. Williams could use a player like Hughes, and he'd fit in well with the Saints' team culture.
Bills Round 2 Possibilities
Again, going back to what I said about Nix at No. 9, I expect him to look at his needs, identify the best players at those need positions, and pick the best guy available.
Quarterback is still priority No. 1, and while I'll regret saying this simply because 95% of the comments on this post will reflect this small paragraph, I do expect Tim Tebow to be a target of the Bills at some point. Don't count out Jevan Snead, though - in a weak year for quarterbacks, Snead has more natural talent than almost everyone at his position. At left tackle, Indiana tackle/guard Rodger Saffold makes a great deal of sense, given his ties to Assistant O-Line coach Bobby Johnson. If the team looks at pass rushers, I'm a big fan of Clemson's Ricky Sapp and South Carolina's Eric Norwood, in no particular order. And, in the unlikely event that Nix says "screw it" and goes BPA, Taylor Mays, Rob Gronkowski, Jahvid Best, Golden Tate and Vladimir Ducasse would all fit the bill and be able to contribute.
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My hunch/gut - They will select the best LT left on the board. And from what I’m reading, it looks like it’s Anthony Davis-Rutgers.
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by Michael_Necci on Mar 9, 2010 12:08 PM EST up reply actions
On Mr. Clausen: I do think he’s a legitimate possibility if he’s available here
I actually agree with your selection there – but then, yes – gasp, I think we make a move for Tebow……….
We got the tools, We got the talent
yea i would think if tebow is there in the 2nd
and clausen was specifically skipped, tebow is a real option in the 2nd.
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by silverstreak3k on Mar 9, 2010 12:45 PM EST up reply actions
that’s my thinking – if no QB in 1st and if he’s sitting there while we pick in the 2nd – I wouldn’t be surprised even remotely if he’s the pick
We got the tools, We got the talent
by J2 on Mar 9, 2010 2:11 PM EST up reply actions
I honestly
don’t think Tebow will be there in the second. I think many teams are intrigued by him, but won’t let on. And as we all know the so called experts don’t really know what the GM’s are thinking, they can only speculate. They just assume Tebow has a second round grade, but they’re being told that by poker players.
We will have to make a move as J2 says to get Tebow.
I could see someone leapfrogging into the late 1st to gurantee themselves Tebow, hopefully Nix WILL not pull a Losman manouver
Nix and Chan, the new Cheech and Chong of the Bills, hopefully they will be as successful in business as they were, and not so much the drug fueled comedy act....
Im sure many of the pro-Claussen camp wont like the fact he's so far down on the list....
cant really argue/disagree with that mock at all………..well thought out…..solid.
I would be okay with Williams to the Bills.
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by norcaliangelsfan on Mar 9, 2010 12:11 PM EST reply actions
Williams is a fine choice if clausens not available. But this franchise has needed a franchise qb for too long to piss away this pick on anyone else but clausen is he’s still available. If it’s clausen in the first then the kid from umass should be our 2nd pick at LT. Get shipley in the 3rd. That way we get our franchise qb and put him in a position to suceed. I think we’d all agree were a few seasons away from the playoffs so that will give our offence a couple of years to make it work. Everyone says you need a franchise qb maybe this is the year we finally get onr
Starting a movement to draft Jimmy Clausen in april, he'll be the 2nd coming of Kelly, the saviour of the Bills
by J. Mackin on Mar 9, 2010 1:08 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Completely agree
with the exception of Shipley. Plenty of depth at tackle in this year’s draft. If the staff believes that Clausen is a difference-maker, they can’t pass him up. In the third you would have to go defense IMO.
by MarinoTheBill on Mar 9, 2010 3:27 PM EST up reply actions
Hope
I’m kinda stuck on Spiller, hoping Seattle picks clausen at 6, leaving Spiller to drop to us at 9th pick. Dream alittle dream…….
I was personally hoping to see a LT there, but Dan Williams is a pick that would please me as well.
LT and NT are our two biggest needs that we can fill in the draft this year (I have no faith in thei year’s first round QB`s) so even though I would prefer a LT, Williams could be a hell of a NT for us, so I would not be disapointed at all if we picked him.
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by CanadianBillsFan on Mar 9, 2010 12:15 PM EST reply actions
Not bad....
I was working on one as well and its about the same through the first 15 but I had Clausen going to the Redskins at 4, Okung at 5 to KC, Bulaga to Seattle at 6 and Spiller to Seattle with their 2nd pick at 14.
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I heard about a possible LT from Miami, Jason Fox I think was his name? Is he considered 2nd round talent still?
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i mentioned him a lonnnnnng time ago and haven’t heard much about him since. IMO, he probably needed to put on a little weight.
by quantumuprising on Mar 9, 2010 12:40 PM EST up reply actions
Fox is very raw and will need a lot of time. Not a guy I think can compete for a starting job right away. Third-rounder at best in my eyes, but more like a 4.
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by Brian Galliford on Mar 9, 2010 12:43 PM EST up reply actions
The thing about Fox is
he has had some injury problems this year. He was at one point a late first early second round prospect. He is athleic, shows a good punch, and mirrors well. Tends to get too high sometimes and will let DE’s get under him. I believe he has never given up a sack in college (maybe one). If we could get him in the 3rd or 4th he could be a very good find.
nice mock
very well put together and the logic is sound. As long as the Bills look at either tackle position in the first two rounds, I will be quite content on draft day. I think for round 3, the BPA at the QB position (McCoy?) is the pick.
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by Brian Galliford on Mar 9, 2010 12:44 PM EST up reply actions
interesting
your saying he doesnt mesh with the city? not the team? if i can ask, please expound upon that for me.
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by silverstreak3k on Mar 9, 2010 12:46 PM EST up reply actions
McCoy doesn’t have the arm strength to survive as a long-term starter in the North. His best shot is with a dome team.
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by Brian Galliford on Mar 9, 2010 12:48 PM EST up reply actions
ah
ok. i was wondering.
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by silverstreak3k on Mar 9, 2010 12:50 PM EST up reply actions
I believe Brian is trying to say that McCoy’s arm strength makes Pennington look like Hercules :p
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- by Jsz on Mar 3, 2010 6:25 PM PST
I was going to put that in my original comment, and i decided not to, glad someone did though, haha
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I see your coming around
I seem to remember you didn’t like my idea in my first post of taking a NT first then worry about a LT in R2 and maybe we could get Tebow in round three or trade up to the bottom of round two you know the pats will look to trade. I still think this is the way to go only thing I would like is to trade down a few spots I think we could still get Williams a little lower. Overall thats right on with my opionion. great job
I don’t recall that at all. Maybe I did. I’ve maintained all along that we need to keep an open mind about No. 9, because there are a LOT of different directions we could take there.
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by Brian Galliford on Mar 9, 2010 12:45 PM EST up reply actions
we need to keep an open mind about No. 9, because there are a LOT of different directions we could take there.
Ahh, the benefits of having zero talent. =)
Bill Polian and AJ Smith are gone, so there's not the usual balance between "sane" and "others." Ralph has mentally checked out since 1994. It's a very dangerous time. The coalition for reason is extremely weak.
I agree about Dan Williams, and though he may be a bit of a reach, I still think he is the #1 NT in the draft, and would be solid for the Bills for years to come.
But my question for Brian is, if Bulaga is available does he trump Dan Williams? He would be my preference, but the more I think about it, the less likely I see Bulaga being available.
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I grade Williams higher than Bulaga. I think there is one tackle in this draft class that’s absolutely a LT from day one, and that’s Okung. Bulaga would be a solid pick, and I like him as a prospect, but I’d have gone Williams over Bulaga there, yes.
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by Brian Galliford on Mar 9, 2010 12:45 PM EST up reply actions
Yeah, I completely agree about okung being the only sure fire LT, however I really like Bulaga’s attitude work ethic and how it fits in in Blo
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Agreed on what you just stated about Bulaga. Zero debate from me there, but I’m not sure any of that makes him worthy of being THE GUY at 9
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by Brian Galliford on Mar 9, 2010 1:00 PM EST up reply actions
So what if Williams and Okung are both gone
Who fills in then from your above list? I would go Bulaga with a HARD look at Claussen in that situation
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I would have gone Clausen in that scenario.
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by Brian Galliford on Mar 10, 2010 9:11 PM EST up reply actions
Really?
Buluga could be the best lineman in the draft not named suh
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by J. Mackin on Mar 9, 2010 1:23 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
If you’re implying that Bulaga will be better than Gerald McCoy, I believe you’re gravely mistaken.
And yes, really. :)
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by Brian Galliford on Mar 9, 2010 1:25 PM EST up reply actions
I think he’ll be a probowler before McCoy and a better, more well rounded OT then okung. But I still think lienhart can be an NFL qb so what do I know
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by J. Mackin on Mar 9, 2010 1:38 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
nope, my prediction Bulaga is ok his whole career, no pro bowls, every elite pass rusher tears him appart
Anthony Davis has a rough year 1 but then settles into a routine of 10 straight pro bowls
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by uPitt_BillsFan on Mar 10, 2010 12:23 PM EST up reply actions
I completely disagree Brian. I think very highly of Bryan Bulaga and I think he’s a better football player than Trent Williams, who struggled mightily when he moved over to LT. I don’t care what the stop watch says, he’s not a better athlete than Bulaga and by no means a better LT-candidate imo. Bulaga is a more physical run-blocker with a meaner attitude, a more natural knee-bender and with more upside in my opinion, but again I’m not trying to say Trent Williams is rubbish, I just personally like Bulaga a LOT :)
As far as the Dan Williams-pick, I love it. I love drafting big guys early and though he doesn’t have the value to be drafted that high, I could still easily see the Broncos or Dolphins snatch him, if he falls to down.
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by BillsfanfromDenmark on Mar 9, 2010 1:25 PM EST up reply actions
The “Williams” I was referring to there was not Trent, but Dan.
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by Brian Galliford on Mar 9, 2010 1:27 PM EST up reply actions
truer words were never spoken
we need to keep an open mind about No. 9, because there are a LOT of different directions we could take there.
With the needs we have, it would take some doing to screw up the #9 pick. I wouldn’t have said that last year, but, I think Nix/Gailey are way more astute than DJ et al. In spite of hs “pro personnel” designation, I can imagine Whaley having some input as well.
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Not mentioned, but...
If Clausen would fall to our spot at #9, I would be shocked if no one made an offer to us to move up for him (i.e., Seattle making an offer to move ahead of Denver).
By doing so, we could move down a few slots, get an extra pick or two, and still nab Dan Williams.
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I should have mentioned that the idea of incorporating trades into this mock never once crossed my mind.
I’m not sure Dan Williams will last past Denver at 11.
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by Brian Galliford on Mar 9, 2010 1:07 PM EST up reply actions
which is probably smart.......
trades arent as easy as people make them out to be, when it involves the draft.
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by norcaliangelsfan on Mar 9, 2010 1:08 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
yeah but what I think he means......
is if a team wants to trade UP…….it’s easier for them to find a team that wants to move down…..
Then it is if you want to trade DOWN…….and find a team that wants to trade up……
Just my guess.
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by norcaliangelsfan on Mar 9, 2010 4:59 PM EST up reply actions
exactly. When I hear some analyst say that a team reached for a player and if they had traded down 5-10 spots and still gotten that player, it just sounds silly to me. What if nobody wanted to move up?
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I think it depends. When you’re picking in the top 10 and take a player like Donte Whitner who probably would have gone somewhere between 15-30 and was maybe the 20th best prospect in the draft?, then you’re reaching and should try and move down.
If you’re drafting a player at a premium position, who might not be one of the 15 or maybe even 20 best prospects in the draft, but probably won’t be available much longer after the Bills pick, then it’s not really reaching.
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yeah, it is subjective of course. It isn’t a blanket statement, but I think generally speaking it is easier to move up then down……just my opinion.
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I totally agree. Especially in the first 50 or so picks.
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Exactly, certain positions can receive tons of calls for like DE, LT, and QB
Others, like say….. SS or FS won’t unless its Eric Berry.
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Miami is a condidate to grab him at 12 too.
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Exactly. Everyone keeps calling Dan Williams a reach at #9, but he’s not making it past Denver/Miami a few picks later.
This is why the draft experts drive me crazy. So a guy is a reach at 9, but if he’s taken at 11 or 12, he’s not a reach? Yeah, because 2-3 slots makes a WORLD of difference when judging how well a pick works out.
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by TheAfghanTwilight on Mar 9, 2010 2:16 PM EST up reply actions
Agreed
SClemyBillsFan said:
I still think this is the way to go only thing I would like is to trade down a few spots I think we could still get Williams a little lower.
This is spot on as I don’t think we should waste the 9th pick, when we can still get Dan Williams further down the line – whilst also gaining an extra value, with another pick?
The question becomes whether you think Dan Williams will last until the spot you trade into. If you think he will (or you’re comfortable drafting someone else if he is gone), you make the trade. If you think Dan Williams will get taken (which he will likely get taken by Denver/Miami), then you stand pat and get “your guy.” In general I’m a huge fan of trading down to acquire more picks, but you have to be aware that if you’re targetting a specific player, he may not be around when your new selection comes up.
Or....
We could draft our franchise qb
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by J. Mackin on Mar 9, 2010 2:29 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Me and the J Mack think very much think alike on the 9th pick. Not many of us being on the bandwgon or movement for Jimmy here as is expected, ND haters are everywhere.
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by SouthBuffaloNDgrad on Mar 9, 2010 3:42 PM EST up reply actions
I am a ND hater......no doubt.....
I would gladly take Golden Tate in the 2nd round though………that guy can catch a beebe in the dark……….
He was AMAZING in the Stanford game……..catching every prayer thrown up by Claussen…
And yeah……I dont want Claussen……but I would welcome Golden Tate with open paws.
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by norcaliangelsfan on Mar 9, 2010 3:48 PM EST up reply actions
I also love Golden ( other than he's a cocky SOB but he backs it up, from personal exp.) but I think he will be a late 1st/early 2nd round guy.
Way to talented, you got to see him for the Stanford game, I watched every play in his ND career, I’m damn sad he’s no longer a Domer but would love him as a Bill. It’s cool, a lot of anit-ND people is expected but we have sucked for over 15 years, why hate?
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by SouthBuffaloNDgrad on Mar 9, 2010 4:35 PM EST up reply actions
I wouldnt hate ND if they were more realistic.........
its not the 70’s and 80’s anymore…..
Get with the times…..just because its Notre Dame doesnt mean they deserve anything (which is how some ND people act – not saying you do of course)
It’s that elitist attitude that manly turns me off…….
I mean after all RUDY is one of my all time favorite movies……probably number 1 or atleast 1a behind Hoosiers.
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by norcaliangelsfan on Mar 9, 2010 4:48 PM EST up reply actions
Rudy gets me every time, I always cry. ( I shouldn't have disclosed that info but wtf) also I love Hoosiers, both classics.
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by SouthBuffaloNDgrad on Mar 9, 2010 5:08 PM EST up reply actions
I dont cry, but I get goosebumps.....everytime.
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by norcaliangelsfan on Mar 9, 2010 6:12 PM EST up reply actions
Rudy
My son and I are in the movie, as the end was filmed at halftime of an ND game. I’ve watched the movie like 10 times and love it so much I always get so wrapped up in the ending that I forget to look for ourselves in the crowd—that’s how great a movie it is.
by radan on Mar 9, 2010 6:51 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
I'll do you one better...
My dad was at the real game. Unfortunately, being an MBA student and therefore old enough to ‘imbibe’ at the tailgating, is his excuse for not remembering much about it. That, plus let’s face facts, it was a two-score game with practically no time left on the clock … he might’ve been moving towards the exits by that point. Still, I like to cite him as a source for not recalling anyone chanting ‘Rudy’ at the game… just because.
Ha, you're touching on a touchy subject at ND like getting a jumbotron.
The movie Rudy kind of divided ND’s due to the two camps, one saying “Rudy” was chanted and another saying it wasn’t chanted. I know someone at the game and said the student section did chant it but take it for what you will. The non-chanters think the movie is hollywoodfied. I don’t really care it’s just a great movie.
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by SouthBuffaloNDgrad on Mar 9, 2010 10:19 PM EST up reply actions
I think there needs to be a moratorium on you refering to any ND player until after the draft.
Every third post you take it over with our Clausen love and then fighting everyone who tries to say they dont like him
Get Over Yourself and Your Overrated University
And before you say its better than Pitt… I got into ND and chose to go to Pitt, True Story, yea the acedemics are alittle better, but the value just isnt there at almost 60g’s a year
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by uPitt_BillsFan on Mar 10, 2010 12:28 PM EST up reply actions
hows that for ND hate
it comes easy when you beat them in every sport (lucky game the other night)
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by uPitt_BillsFan on Mar 10, 2010 12:29 PM EST up reply actions
Who has the most NT and Heismans?
Ok it might be in the past but so was you’re great (Dorsett), also we got lucky beating Pitt without our best player. I wouldn’t have wanted to go any other University then Notre Dame, and I’m getting my MBA from the same place and didn’t even think about going to UB, Canisius, St. Bonnies, or U of Pitt. I’m far from over myself, I talk about the Bills the same ways, I love both teams. Also, I’ll be bummed out at myself for going to " Your Overrated University" after I graduate and network myself to a job for the Chicago Bulls ( then I might just work for the Bills) so I’ll laugh all the way to bank with my UND degrees. Wow, yeah you guys just beat us terribly in every sport, wow you beat some shitty ND teams by a combined total of 10 points, also I remember Charlie and Wannies first games you guys sure got your asses beat. As for bball yeah a 15 beatdown without Gody, yeah you’re right we got so lucky, I was there and you guys played like a middle of the pack BE team, you’re not one of the big boys, I don’t care what you think, that’s my opinion watching you guys lose by 15 and ND getting nothing. So, did you apply to ND and not get in, waiting list ( did they asked for 10 G’s), or just can’t wait for Brian Kelly to hand you guys your assses? Pitt fans make most Big-10 school looks like class acts.
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by SouthBuffaloNDgrad on Mar 10, 2010 2:49 PM EST up reply actions
Also, I'm a grown man. Never try to tell me what to do, I'll do the same. I'm done here.
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by SouthBuffaloNDgrad on Mar 10, 2010 3:15 PM EST up reply actions
I also love Golden ( other than he’s a cocky SOB but he backs it up, from personal exp.)
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by MattRichWarren on Mar 11, 2010 10:20 AM EST up reply actions
I don't really want to talk about ND players anymore, me going there, and the anti-ND sentiment.
But since you asked, I’ll tell you my personal experiences with Golden Tate, I’ve told this story a month or 2 ago but whatever. I’m good friends with DJ Fitzpatrick (ND K & P for 2 seasons, last one was Charlie’s first year), so he got me into the prestigous “people who are allowed to socialize with ND players” not great friends but I’ve meet most of the players since 2005, and my claim to fame was beating Brady Quinn and A Fasano at beer pong with my buddy, we celebrated like we won the SB (they prolly thought “who the hell are these guys”). So, back to Golden, I first met him just walking in the same direction on campus and started to talk to him. Along with this I’ve spent many nights at the few ND bars in SB with the players and their entourage of beautiful women, my buddies and cousin are always talking to them and buying them shots and what not. From my experiences Golden is a good guy ( I don’t think any of the players I’ve meet are bad people) but with Golden you get that feeling like he thinks he’s Gods gift to football and women. On the women aspect, a friend of mine had a short relationship with him and she always would just say how cocky and arrogant he was but that’s her opinion, he had like 5 other females at the time so she could be little bitter but I’ve heard from other girls around campus. Anyway for me and my interaction with players over the years I always joke with them and say “I can’t wait to see ya in a Bills uni” here is most reactions if I remember correctly, I’m usually drunk when I do this.
Golden- didn’t like it and said he wanted to go back to Tenn, or a winner
Clausen- I’ve had one real convo with him, he’s very nice (could be an act) did some shots with him and our GF’s, he just said he wants to play in the NFL he doesn’t care where (the PC answer).
Kyle Rudoplh (TE)- He gets upset and yelled at me for saying it. He’s the ladies man along with Tate.
Micheal Floyd (WR)- The greatest person and very humble, he said he would love to play in Buffalo and gave a shout out to us fans, how loyal and rabid we are.
Anyway, no more ND stuff, people are right, this is a Bills blog not a ND one. Just to give you the details best I can, take it for what you will.
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by SouthBuffaloNDgrad on Mar 11, 2010 1:44 PM EST up reply actions
Micheal Floyd (WR)- The greatest person and very humble, he said he would love to play in Buffalo and gave a shout out to us fans, how loyal and rabid we are.
See now that’s a guy I’d like to see in a Bill’s uniform.
The kid is a class act truly.
I think he could very well become the next L Fitz with his size, speed, hands, and able to grab those jump balls. Great size 6-4 220, and really worked hard to be what he is. He’s from a sinlg mother household, lower class and to pay for his education at the best high school in the Twin Cities, Cretin-Derham High, it’s very academically rigorous and has great sports programs, some notable people that went there- Joe Mauer, M Floyd, Ryan Harris, Matt Birk, and the top high school prospect this year Seantreal Henderson. It’s a great school and his mother worked two jobs for him to play football and basketball at the school, he helped by working before school days as a janitor and in the cafeteria. He then went to a tough school, played two sports and excelled, he’s truly a class act and a high character guy. I’m his biggest fan, when he commited to ND in 2007 (The 3-9 season) after a home drubbing to USC 38-0 and said “this is the place for him” Charlie, him, and his mother got very emotional. No prima donna WR syndrome with this kid, just a football player.
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by SouthBuffaloNDgrad on Mar 11, 2010 3:16 PM EST up reply actions
Stop
Seriously, stop with the “your criticizing Clausen because he went to ND” stuff. Clausen’s capabilities and weaknesses have little to do with what college he played at.
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Is that an ultimatum, will I be exiled from the Rumblings community.
All I said is that I also like Clausen but around here, me and the poster J Mack are the only ones with Draft Clausens sigs. Most here from what I’ve seen arent fans of Clausen, they don’t think he could be an NFL QB, their are exceptions though (not many, it’s a Tebow love fest here). People could dislike Jimmy Clausen for any number of reasons, maybe simply him being a QB from ND (saw the same thing with Quinn), maybe people dislike his personality or character, or even his arm strength. The latter two having to do with his playing ability, the first is me kind of saying that for some ( not all) people dislike him just becuase he’s from ND (just like people don;t like Duke BB player; JJ Reddick, Palaus) to say that it isn’t true is being naive. Although, others could feel that they dislike him as a football player for many reasons and to not acknowledge that is also naive. I have to say this, obviously you don’t like how I go around and say that people are either anti-ND or pro-ND (not many in the middle) but untill this post I’ve never said Clausen was being criticized just becuase he went to ND. Just that maybe there is an anti-ND feel that I’ve gotten since I started posting here and I’m not affraid to fly my colors including the same love for the Buffalo Bills. Also, yes as I’ve already pointed out Clausens possible weaknesses which could lead to someone not wanting him at 9, I ask just this, find a post where I said that Jimmy is being hated on just because he went to ND, before this one?
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by SouthBuffaloNDgrad on Mar 9, 2010 7:00 PM EST up reply actions
uh..........it is definitely not this around here......
it’s a Tebow love fest here
Not sure what you have been reading.
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by norcaliangelsfan on Mar 9, 2010 7:11 PM EST up reply actions
Maybe so, I try to read as many articles and post as I can.
Along with comments but don’t really have all the free time in the world at this point in my life. I also feel that most Tebow post I’ve seen people are wanting to take him @ 9, that just is mind boggling to me, maybe maybe with the 41st pick for Tebow but not for me. That is just what I’ve seen, I also see the people that don’t like Tebow but the people that want him, really do.
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by SouthBuffaloNDgrad on Mar 9, 2010 9:03 PM EST up reply actions
I'm just an author...
… beyond that, I’m just like you… someone that makes comments. Here’s a couple:
Up to your post, NO ONE in this thread had mentioned anything negative about Clausen. Where is the"everywhere" that you’re seeing ND hate? More people “hate” the guy I advocate the Bills draft, Tebow, than “hate” on Clausen. I bet if you put a post up with a poll asking if the Bills should draft Clausen with the 9th pick, if available, Clausen would get a pretty favorable response.
And those people that have stated that they’d rather have Dan Williams or Bryan Bulaga over Clausen aren’t bashing Clausen or ND. It’s good, solid logic that they’re using…. Buffalo needs a NT to run the 3-4, and Buffalo for sure needs a LT. It has nothing at all to do with Clausen.
This post is not the first time you’ve mentioned the ND hate issue:
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I doubt there’s a whole lot of fans on this site that don’t want Clausen…. or Tate….. or any ND player simply because of where they played their college ball.
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We all want what’s nest for the team. It’s not nessicarily people in here but clauusen has been under the microscope, what potential 1st overall pick hasn’t. But some sports writers tend to be posistively or negatively bias twards players from certian schools. It’s just aggrivating when u see these clowns say clausens doesn’t have the tools to be a good
franchise qb when he has the physical attributes, the stats and the intangables to lead a team for 10-15 years. Not too mention we’ve needed a franchise qb for over a decade
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by J. Mackin on Mar 9, 2010 8:11 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Tate never entered the comvo, also it's a common fact
that people hate ND, why is this so hard to comprehend. I brought up the issue of that before your rebuttle, not that Jimmy gets no love for going to ND, I just said it for the fact you brought it up. All I said in the post you responed “Stop..Seriously Stop” was that me and the persons poster both like Clausen and maybe said that people dislike ND because they do, regardless of who the player is. Most people dislike Clausen becuase of the things he did at ND (H-2 Limo for commit, underage drinking, and they getting punched in the face) these maybe show that he has character issues which are a concern for some. I also asked for a post I said regarding Clausen being disliked beause he went to ND? that is what you initially said " criticizing Clausen cause he went to ND" I never intertwined the fact that he’s hated on because of him playing at ND, just that ND in it-self is hated on. I never said that about Jimmy untill responding to the before mentioned quote. Whatever I’ll avoid the anti-ND talk because it’s not neccessary to most of the post but yeah like I said earlier to ignore the anti-ND folks is kind of naive, cuz it’s there.
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by SouthBuffaloNDgrad on Mar 9, 2010 8:49 PM EST up reply actions
I'd love to see Golden Tate running down our sidelines
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by SERGEANT MAJOR THOR on Mar 9, 2010 9:03 PM EST up reply actions
If we want a safety blanker WR for our QB (whoever the hell that will be) we could do a lot worse than Tate
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I feel you're misinterperating what I said in that post above, the reply to J Mack.
Or just dislike me, this is the second post where you’ve replied something to the extent of giving me a demand to stop something (which regardless wouldn’t stop me, I can make my own decisions) or whatever you said a couple days ago on the same type of topic. I couldn’t tell ya buddy or going to speculate any further. I’m just gonna end with this, in more than 5 post, I’ve told the board that the guy I want the most is Buluga, so having never said that the people not wanting Clausen have a hatred for Jimmy, just the fact I keep repeating. “ND haters are everywhere”- meant to say beyond the Rumblings world, should’ve been more specific.
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by SouthBuffaloNDgrad on Mar 9, 2010 9:16 PM EST up reply actions
It's not that I don't like you...
… there’s no one on this board that I dislike.
And I get the ND hate. But it’s really not on these boards, so I don’t know why you have brought it up twice, two seperate threads. Buffalo Rumblings, more than any other blogs I’ve visited, consists of mostly thoughtful posters that don’t just dislike someone, like say, Clausen, for nonsense reasons.
I know exactly what you’re talking about with ND. There’s 10 times more anti-Florida sentiment right now, and 100 times more anti-Tebow sentiment right now. That’s my fav CFB team and favorite player. I recognize that the sentiment is there, but I don’t focus on it. I write about what the facts of the matter are, and speculate or predict off of those facts. Like most of the other posters here.
If you really want folks to like Clausen and see his upside as you see it, don’t talk about the ND thing. Write a Fanpost about what the guy brings to the table.
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DJ's right, I don't care WHERE someone went to play football, as long as they can play the damn game well
end of story, he could be from ND, Hawaii, or John’s Ball Sack U and I would support him, as long as he can play!
Claussen would be a fine choice for us, IF we can protect him, Tebow, or whoever we have play QB.
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by buffalobacker on Mar 10, 2010 8:43 PM EST up reply actions
NT to save the run D, a LT to protect whoever we have at QB, ummm, DJ, your logic is a little too... Logical?
Agreed though, 100%
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The biggest reason I don't want Clausen.
Is if we fix the OL first then draft a quarterback who is a pocket passer, he will have a much better chance of developing when he isn’t constantly taking a pounding,
Go back and look at the line Jim Kelly had to start his career. It was a darn good one for his first 4 years as a Bill. I think a good OL is what you need to develop a QB who is a pocket passer , one he can trust in. We haven’t had a top quality line in about 15 years now, And we haven’t had a top quality QB either and we tried hard to find one, Get a good OL then draft a QB so he has a fighting chance if you are looking to develop a pocket passer.
There's not a wide receiver who is fast enough, that J.P. Losman can't overthrow him on a fly pattern.
by The Buffalo Kid on Mar 9, 2010 8:52 PM EST up reply actions
Agreed but last season A-Rodge had a pretty pathetic OL last season
but he did sit behind Favre for 4 years, which could’ve helped.
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by SouthBuffaloNDgrad on Mar 9, 2010 8:55 PM EST up reply actions
He is also a lot more athletic than people give him credit for, he did run a spread in college
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A-Rodge had a pretty pathetic OL last season
Agreed, he can extend plays with his feet and throw accurately on the run, Rothlisberger too.
I don’t think Clausen is as strong at doing that and is more of a pocket passer.
There's not a wide receiver who is fast enough, that J.P. Losman can't overthrow him on a fly pattern.
by The Buffalo Kid on Mar 10, 2010 11:25 PM EST up reply actions
Why do battle lines need to be drawn? Why do there need to be sig campaigns for prospects? Can’t we just, you know, keep an open mind?
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by Brian Galliford on Mar 9, 2010 10:13 PM EST up reply actions
I'm one of the biggest Buluga, Clausen, McClain, and D Williams supporters for the 9th pick.
That’s an open mind IMO. Don’t know what else to say.
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by SouthBuffaloNDgrad on Mar 9, 2010 10:32 PM EST up reply actions
Please, Im Begging You
Stop talking about ND players… no one cares that you go/went there enough to listen to the same 4 anecdotes about clausen being a standup guy and tate being a jerk who makes up for it with his play.
We got it, thanks… Every third post turns into some huge back and forth between you and one or two other guys abuot why clausen is or isnt a good pick and every time without fail you fall back on the ND-Haters arguement.
I havent seen one on this site, other than the ones who admit to disliking ND but dont bash it or the players.
Its great that you went to a good school… its not great that you think everyone wants to hear about it.
I wanna talk and read about the Bills, Not the Fighting Irish.
idk.. if im in the wrong here someone else please let me know, but I’d like to read about all the prospects not just Jimmy “I cant beat Pitt” Clausen
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by uPitt_BillsFan on Mar 10, 2010 12:40 PM EST up reply actions
I don’t mind the Dan Williams pick at all. while it may be a bit of a reach the effect it would have on this defense is huge.
there are a decent amount of tackles graded out as 2nd-3rd round prospects that will be available for the Bills.
looking past round 1, OBD has a big hole at the TE spot which I wouldn’t mind seeing filled by Gronkowski. can do almost everything well and seeing that this offense probably will be a run first type TE is an important part of that.
lots of holes on this team that is for sure.
Well played sir
Solid, sound logic throughout.
Are Griffen and Mathews likely to go that high? They seem like late 1st, or early 2nd rounders at best.
I’m obviously ok with Williams…It would just be kind of odd if they passed on Clausen though.
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Griffen is more likely to go that high than Mathews is. I think a lot of scouts love Mathews because he’s an every-down player, and a lot don’t because he’s not a bruiser nor a home run threat. RB is very specialized these days as teams use 2 or more on a widely consistent basis.
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by Brian Galliford on Mar 9, 2010 1:26 PM EST up reply actions
I'd take Dwyer before Mathews.......
but that just me personally.
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by norcaliangelsfan on Mar 9, 2010 1:32 PM EST up reply actions
Dwyer’s a one-trick pony, too.
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by Brian Galliford on Mar 9, 2010 1:34 PM EST up reply actions
yeah but he's really good at that one thing..........
who cares what it is he’s good at……even if its only one thing…….
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by norcaliangelsfan on Mar 9, 2010 1:36 PM EST up reply actions
Because Mathews is good at three things? He can run, he can catch, he can pass block.
I’m not high on Dwyer at all.
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by Brian Galliford on Mar 9, 2010 1:37 PM EST up reply actions
I was high on Dwyer until Chan Gailey openly questioned his ability to keep his weight down while at Tech. If a RB can’t stay in ideal shape, that’s a huge problem.
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and he did all that against a different level of competition.....
He HAD to do all that….Fresno had no other options….
Dwyer played against better guys……..and he wasnt asked to catch passes or pass block that often.
Doesnt mean he cant do it as well.
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by norcaliangelsfan on Mar 9, 2010 1:39 PM EST up reply actions
yea i like matthews over dywer too
dywer is inflated because of that option attack. i dont thini matthews goes round 1 though…
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by silverstreak3k on Mar 9, 2010 2:38 PM EST up reply actions
Dwyer still avg over 5 ypc BEFORE the option came along.....
plus Dwyer was the B back……he did most of his running between the tackles…….it wasnt like he was one of the A backs getting a ton a pitches all the time.
But to each their own I guess.
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by norcaliangelsfan on Mar 9, 2010 2:52 PM EST up reply actions
i went to Ga Southern
and we had a guy named adrian peterson. dude broke all kinds of D-1a records, and i thought for sure he would be a good back in the nfl. he plays on the bears, as the 2nd or 3rd rb and plays mainly special teams. adrian peterson is the definiation of inflated numbers because of the option (PJ coached at GSU at the time). i see dwyer as a more talented peterson. dont get me wrong i think dwyer will be a better back and a pretty good 1-2 punch for someone. but the blocking in a triple option is designed to run up the middle at will. you cant block like that in the nfl. dwyer is good, but he wont be better than matthews in my opinion.
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by silverstreak3k on Mar 9, 2010 3:14 PM EST up reply actions
or could his inflated numbers be related to inferior talent?
or maybe a 5’10 210 back……..vs….Dwyer who is 6’1 235…….
that might have alot to do with it.
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by norcaliangelsfan on Mar 9, 2010 3:31 PM EST up reply actions
i mean maybe
but everytime i see a PJ running back, i think back to peterson and believe that they wont be as good as everyone thinks.
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by silverstreak3k on Mar 9, 2010 5:51 PM EST up reply actions
I'm sure there's another RB you'd take before them all, eh?
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Actually as much as I love Toby.......
I would be concerned about his “mileage” already……..
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by norcaliangelsfan on Mar 9, 2010 1:38 PM EST up reply actions
I don’t feel that Clausen is viewed within NFL circles (Buffalo among them) as a sure-fire, franchise signal caller. He’s got a high degree of bust potential and quite a few question marks. If the Bills don’t think he’s the answer, then they pass on him. However, if they think he’s the answer, you do whatever it takes to grab him. Missing on a QB high in the draft is a bad, bad thing.
I’ll go into greater detail when I post my own mock but for now I’ll just express my feelings that this draft is solidly deep defensively while offensively elite heavy at the top followed by a disturbing tumble in player quality. Because of this I expect and prefer the bills to address offense early and defense in the middle rounds. I truly can not imagine buffalo passing on clausen in rd 1 unless tebow is in the works in round 2.
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by poz on Mar 9, 2010 1:30 PM EST via mobile reply actions 1 recs
offensively elite heavy at the top followed by a disturbing tumble in player quality.
Sure, at QB, WR and OT. Lots of depth at RB and TE, and the interior OL is pretty solid in my book, too.
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by Brian Galliford on Mar 9, 2010 1:35 PM EST up reply actions
fair distinction
But unfortunately I feel QB WR and OT are our biggest offensive needs
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Just wanted to avoid the generalization. :)
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by Brian Galliford on Mar 9, 2010 1:44 PM EST up reply actions
Interior OL is amazingly deep, with a lot or RTs and LTs having to move down in to fill an already overflowing bowl of prospects
If you need a G or C this draft, your set.
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I’m a Jimmy Clausen believer, so I couldn’t pass on him if he’s available. I could never pass on a QB who provids good value if there isn’t one already on the roster and I think Clausen is a similiar prospect to Mark Sanchez and good value with the 9th pick. I think the pounding he took at Notre Dame and his ability to be a check down QB while still taking shots down the field means that he can survive in this offense, especially if Buffalo were to wait until the bye week to put him in the starting lineup like Tampa did with Josh Freeman, the Broncos kind of did with Cutler or the Giants did with Eli Manning.
Other than Clausen, I’d be very happy with Williams or McClain. And maybe Anthony Davis too depending on those work ethic concerns that we’ll never really learn too much about.
I agree with you on the Rams taking a QB. Unless they think that a 2nd-3rd round prospect like Colt McCoy or Jevan Snead is almost as good of a prospect as the top QB on their board, I think they’ve got to take a QB. A DT simply cannot make the impact that a QB can and if you’re going to give an enormous contract out to somebody, it might as well be a QB since they get huge contracts after the rookie deal ends anyways.
Great logic on the Bulaga to the Chiefs pick.
I love how Kyle Wilson has worked his way into the first round mix. I remember that Boise v. Oregon game being the first real college game of the season and all of us being very impressed with the way Wilson played. Nothing like being a little bit ahead of the rest of the net on a prospect.
I think the whole “MLB prospects slide” thing isn’t nearly as concrete as people make it out to be. I think you could make the case that MLBs with top half of the 1st round grades almost never slide. Willis, Vilma, DJ Williams, Urlacher – those types of prospects don’t really slide (although Williams wasn’t taken in the top 15). Jon Beason is another guy who was a mid first round prospect and went a little later, going 25th.
It’s those late 1st round prospects who slide. Maualuga went in the early 2nd, but he was an early 2nd round prospect and was very overrated because he was such a high profile prospect. Laurinaitis slid last year, but I think that was a lack of teams in the back half of the first round that needed a MLB. Houston picked 15th and then it was Tampa, Philly, Detroit, Minny, Atlanta, Indy, Buffalo, NYG, Tennessee and Detroit again before STL grabbed him. The Titans and maybe Detroit had a need in at that position. I think that’s why MLBs slide is because it’s such a premium position for 4-3 teams that most of the good teams are very set at the position and guys tend to slide into the top 5-10 picks of the 2nd round as a result.
I like Hughes, but I don’t think he’s that good of a fit as a 4-3 LB. I think Ricky Sapp has more 4-3 LB type athletic abilty than Hughes does.
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I expected those thoughts on Clausen. I think he can be good, too, but I’m not sure Nix/Gailey think he can be. I went with the safer pick as a result.
As for the linebacker sliding thing, I don’t think we’ll see McClain slide as far as he did here, and if he does slide, it won’t be of any epic proportion. He’s a good player, a Top 15 talent, and he’ll absolutely be a first-round pick. I just question how many teams have a pressing need at ILB.
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by Brian Galliford on Mar 9, 2010 1:45 PM EST up reply actions
Brian – is it anything specific that makes you think they would pass on Clausen? I agree with Kaiser that we can’t afford to pass on a player with the potential to be a franchise QB.
by MarinoTheBill on Mar 9, 2010 3:32 PM EST up reply actions
Just a gut feeling. Could just be lunch.
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by Brian Galliford on Mar 9, 2010 4:15 PM EST up reply actions
The best part of the Bills passing on Clausen
would be watching Mel Kiper’s head explode again. As much as I would love to see us take a DT, I am not sure it is the biggest need this team has, or that NT Williams is the BPA over OT Williams. We have Kyle Williams and a couple of run stuffing fatties that can get us by this year. And, Gailey is going to want to get the offense moving, so my guess is he will be pulling for the Bills to address OT or QB with the first pick. I am not a big Clausen guy, but it is hard to see the Bills passing on him. Which brings me to my next point….Would Seattle be better off taking Clausen first and then Spiller? If the Bills do pass pass on Clausen, it will be for an OT, IMO.
I don’t think Tebow will last until the Bills second round pick….the Jags just can’t let that happen. Assuming he has a very good to great at his Pro Day, someone will trade up to get him in the late 1st or early 2nd round before the Bills pick. Assuming the Bills go QB or NT in the first, OT has to be the pick in the second round. Ducasse or Saffold would be my front runners as well.
Just for fun……is their any chance the Bills take Tebow at #9?
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by Brian Galliford on Mar 9, 2010 2:04 PM EST up reply actions
How about the face melting thing from Raiders of the Lost Ark?
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lol, I forgot about the Raiders Brian, they could take Tebow, they also could take a kid who never went to college
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Yea beacuase McShay is so much better than Kiper.
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by SouthBuffaloNDgrad on Mar 9, 2010 3:45 PM EST up reply actions
I only listen to Mike Mayock, he is the best by farrrrr. He is the only one that really knows his stuff.
if you only listen to Mayock.........
how can you say that?
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by norcaliangelsfan on Mar 9, 2010 4:00 PM EST up reply actions
ha, that made me laugh
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by SouthBuffaloNDgrad on Mar 9, 2010 7:04 PM EST up reply actions
You really need to pay attention to Daniel Jeremiah then.
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by Brian Galliford on Mar 9, 2010 4:16 PM EST up reply actions
Im a huge fan of Scott Wright at nfldraftcountdown......
good stuff.
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by norcaliangelsfan on Mar 9, 2010 4:49 PM EST up reply actions
Lombardi first because he's actually worked in a front office
Mayock second.
Nawrocki third.
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by MattRichWarren on Mar 11, 2010 10:27 AM EST up reply actions
There are a lot of picks that would make me happy on draft night and Dan Williams is one of them. I also like Clausen so that wouldn’t bother me nor would picking up one of the OT prospects.
Looking at this proves how much I don’t know about prospects.
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I'd prefer Clausen or Bradford
If either of them are there @ 9? Then buffalo should fire the shots to get em!
I would tend to agree.
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by MattRichWarren on Mar 11, 2010 10:28 AM EST up reply actions
I agree. But as kaiser mentioned, it’d to me be very difficult to pass on a franchise QB in Jimmy Clausen. I know there are a lot of people who question his ability as a leader and his somewhat cocky attitude, but the guy is just a terrific QB imo. He has a strong arm, is very accurate, has good, not great size, played in a Pro-style offense at ND where he had to make reads and understand coverages and has like no other QB faced pressure from his surroundings seeing that he was the nr 1 recruit out of high school. Sure, he might not have the upside to become the best QB in the league, but he’s still going to be a very, very good starting QB eith the right tutoring imo.
Then again, I love Dan Williams and I love getting your big men early and there are not a lot of great NT-prospects, so one could easily argue he should be the pick.
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by BillsfanfromDenmark on Mar 10, 2010 4:46 AM EST up reply actions
I tend to agree with kaiser and you on the QB. I don’t think you pass on a franchise QB. Now the Bills may not feel he is a franchise QB and I would understand.
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by MattRichWarren on Mar 11, 2010 10:28 AM EST up reply actions
Brian...
I can’t say I dislike the pick. There’s little the team could pick where i’d be upset. I tend to agree that Nix will make sure to draft BPA at the NEED areas first. I think NT makes the most sense because it’s the hardest position to fill on their roster, given the switch and the lack of elite options on the open market and in college. LT can wait. It hurts to say it, but I think LT is a position where they have more options to mull over.
It would pain me a bit to see Clausen passed up, but only because to me – as a fan, I want to see that QB position FINALLY take off again.
That all being said, I also agree that Tebow may very well be a guy they’re targeting. I doubt they’d wait until the 3rd round to try and grab him, so I think he’ll be their priority if he’s hanging out in the 2nd round.
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by TheAfghanTwilight on Mar 9, 2010 2:22 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
It would pain me a bit to see Clausen passed up, but only because to me – as a fan, I want to see that QB position FINALLY take off again.
Bingo. 100% with you there.
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by Brian Galliford on Mar 9, 2010 2:31 PM EST up reply actions
But not because I think he’s the solution to their problem. He’s merely a player at thee position the organization has no solution for. =)
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by TheAfghanTwilight on Mar 9, 2010 3:17 PM EST up reply actions
My prediction is Williams as well.
Going out and getting a RT serves us some good but we have absolutely no NT. I think they address this come draft day. I would prefer them to trade down a bit and maybe pick up an extra 2nd or 3rd. If we can get another 2nd or 3rd, the pick of Tebow will not look as bad to the tebow haters since we had an extra pick to use on him to the. I hope we trade down, take Williams, Tebow and a tackle. This class is deep in LB’s and i think we can get a good one in the 4th or 5th.
Also, on Bradford
I believe he is going to slide a lot this draft. And by that I mean, slide out of the top 5. I believe he will be there when we pick and I hope we don’t take him. I think he will not pan out in this league. His shoulder is obviously a concern since i think i read he will not throw at his pro day…correct me if i am wrong. If he doesn’t throw he will fall to us. How could you take a QB 1st overall when he missed most of the season with a shoulder injury, didn’t participate in the combine, and now may not throw at his proday? I wouldn’t take him…to me his shoulder is still bothering him pretty bad.
Bradford’s plan all along has been to do his throwing at his own private workout “pro day,” which occurs after OU’s pro day. His shoulder is not a concern to me.
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by Brian Galliford on Mar 9, 2010 2:40 PM EST up reply actions
If Bradford slides to 9, the organization would have a hard time NOT selecting him. He fits the exact mold of a QB who you try to build a winner around.
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by TheAfghanTwilight on Mar 9, 2010 3:19 PM EST up reply actions
Bradford's not sliding to 9
He probably won’t even slide to 2
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if he throws at his pro day he won’t but if he doesn’t he will slide just based on principle. I thought I heard he wasn’t going to throw so my point above isn’t valid if he does in fact throw. Sorry for the mix up, thats why i asked for someone to correct me (thanks Brian). I thought I read on NFL.com that he wasn’t going to throw a few days ago…which would in fact really hurt his chances getting drafted in top 5 IMO
Why wouldn't he throw though?
That shoulder has to be healthy by now….
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I dunno, I thought thats what i read. And if his shoulder was healthy why not just throw at OU pro day? why push it back…right there tells me something isn’t 100% right.
Why does it matter when he throws?
He’s working out and getting in shape still. Why would he rush back if he doesn’t have to? It’s not like he’s not planning to throw on March 25th when he works out for teams. How is throwing then instead of 2 weeks earlier so problematic?
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He doesn’t have huge throwing power which will be a concern up here. I don’t think he is a good fit for our team. Nix said he wanted a big arm guy so will see what happens. Bradford reminds me a lot of Tom Brady, which is a bad thing to me since I think he is highly overrated but i don’t want to start that debate again.
Tom Brady might be seen as a bit overrated if he didn’t do so much with so little talent early on. The guy wins.
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by TheAfghanTwilight on Mar 9, 2010 4:14 PM EST up reply actions
in my opinion by cheating…early on and by throwing a million screen passes with a great line. That doesn’t mean he is great. I know he won 3 superbowls but it was more the coaching and cheating that one. He happens to be part of a system that is very good.
He won those along with his D and coaching, throwing to
Troy Brown, David Patten, and David Givens a extremely threatning group. He played well in 2 of his SB wins and had 2 game winning drives ( i know the one was from the 40) to win SB’s. He’s an all-timer IMO, no doubt about it. He’s what you want in a QB, being mechanically sound, smart, and clutch when it counts most. I respect the hell out of Tom Brady.
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by SouthBuffaloNDgrad on Mar 9, 2010 11:13 PM EST up reply actions
Nice Mock
I am fine with D Williams in this scenario. But I do believe in Claussen and I would definitely be pulling for him to be the pick if he falls to us. I am fine with Claussen, D Williams, Bulaga or T Williams as the realistic options at our pick. I really hope we don’t go with McClain, Spiller or some of the other guys that are great talents but not at significant positions of need.
I'd personally have a hard time with the Billspassing at Caussen if he's still o the board at 9.
Fortunately I really doubt he will be.
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I tend to agree with you, but the counter-argument might present Aaron Maybin as a 4-3 DE and Donte Whitner, as a poor tackler.
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by TheAfghanTwilight on Mar 9, 2010 4:57 PM EST up reply actions
well personally I never saw Donte as a Top 10 guy ANYWHERE before he was drafted....
also didnt think Maybin was a top 12 guy either…….
Didnt see too many places that had them both that high.
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by norcaliangelsfan on Mar 9, 2010 5:00 PM EST up reply actions
hit post too fast......
I saw that though…….yet, I advocate taking the guy you want……when you want them……no matter what the “experts” say…….
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by norcaliangelsfan on Mar 9, 2010 5:02 PM EST up reply actions
Good mock. I usually don’t pay too much attention to these things but this was nicely put together. At this point I am torn on who to get at 9. If Clausen is there at 9 if I was the GM it would hard for me to pass that up. However I could also see us trading the pick for a lower round 1 pick and more picks. I do agree however that if we don’t select a QB or trade the pick away we need someone who can make an immediate impact on the field.
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I have a feeling they might grab Clausen before he gets down to us..If I were Nix,and both Clausen and D Williams were both there at 9,I’d probably get some kind of penalty for not deciding fast enough..I have this gut feeling though that Chan likes Tebow,and that’s the guy He really wants to bring around..In whatever round they make that happen..Certainly not the first..
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If they like Tebow a lot, which I happen to think they do, then I see them taking him in the second round. The problem then is who the hell is going to be our LT?! I mean if we grab Dan Williams in the first round and Tebow in the second. Who is going to be the LT?!!! We’d have to trade up to acquire a guy like Vladimir Ducasse – a player I believe is better suited to be OG than LT – or Selvish Capers, who’s still quite raw in terms of footwork. The more I think about, the more I see us moving Donte, Marshawn and/or Kyle to acquire more picks.
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by BillsfanfromDenmark on Mar 10, 2010 4:52 AM EST up reply actions
You’re not going to like my answer, but my answer is Demetrius Bell. The guy has some more experience under his belt now and, while he probably wouldn’t light the world on fire, he should have a number of mistakes cleaned up.
And this is what we’re talking about in terms of having too many holes to fill in a single year. It sucks, but we have a couple drafts at leasts before we get even close. Somebody else takes the beating while Tebow (in your scenario) learns. The year after, LT first round. The good thing about early first round OTs is that they are basically plug-and-play.
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Demetrius is not a good LT. He was horrific for the most part of 2009 and looked extremely raw. If we’re counting on him to be our LT, well let’s just say I’m glad I didn’t buy season tickets…
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by BillsfanfromDenmark on Mar 10, 2010 11:13 AM EST up reply actions
Not arguing with the assessment of Bell. He’d probably be in the bottom third of starting LTs. I’m just saying he probably wouldn’t be as bad as last year and it’s probably not the end of the world if he is the LT for this year so long as we don’t have our franchise QB taking the beating. This year is going to be rough no matter what. It’s a multi-year process.
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Tebow is a tough customer, and we do have three disposable QBs ahead of Tebow in that situation
Bell lets all three get taken out in the first 6-10 games, Tebow comes in and we play run and shoot from there on in.
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Williams???
I’m not real impressed with the guy, but then, I would have to say ok if that’s what Buddy, et all pick…
That said, I’d prolly be really mad that, with Bulaga gone, we actually passed on Bryant…..
JMHO….
If I was Buddy Nix and had a choice between Clausen and Dan Williams...
I would lock down the NT position for 10 years (which is what I think Dan Williams does, even if he isn’t dominant) over taking a California quarterback who has a high bust potential. But that’s just me.
I recognize every single Bills fan really really really wants a franchise quarterback. I just worry what a huge bust at that position would do to the franchise and the city. In terms of star power + red flags, Clausen reminds me of Leinert (though I realize he has a much stronger arm and played in a pro system).
I would absolutely support taking Tebow in the second, though I confess, more from a marketing perspective than a football one. And because I think Jacksonville would trade us 2 maybe 3 picks to get him.
If Baluga and Williams are both there, I investigate trading back with Miami and getting one that remains (more likely Baluga) bc I think you don’t go wrong with either pick. I’d probably prefer a D.Williams/Saffold combo over a Baluga/Cam Thomas one, but again, both are wins.
Great job, Brian!
A California Quarterback?
One that has played in Indiana for the last 3 years…………
potshots because he’s from California dont help your cause.
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by norcaliangelsfan on Mar 9, 2010 7:18 PM EST up reply actions
Well...
I don’t know that I meant it as a potshot even if that’s what it was….and I certainly wouldn’t say I have a cause.
But JP Losman played in Louisiana for four years….he’s still referred to as a California quarterback.
Honestly, I get that the “california quarterback” is a bit illogical. Small sample sizes and all that. But Jim Kelly, imo pretty much the most diehard Bills fan in the universe, said there was something to it and practically pleaded for the Bills front office not to draft a guy from California to play in the Buffalo winters.
It’s not like the fact that Clausen is from Cali is my number one or two or three point against him, but I think its relevant.
If that’s a potshot, well…..what are blogs for lol?
Good Point
The term “California QB” refers more to a guy being comfortable here in Buffalo, than it does being tough, IMO. And it wasn’t just JP that didn’t appear to adjust well. Rob Johnson, Trent Edwards and to a lesser degree, Drew Bledsoe (Wash., I know, but still better weather:) all struggled with the weather demands coupled with the pressure of being a big fish in a small pond here in town.
I think this is what Jim Kelly is talking about
Drew Boylhart talked about Buffalo essentially being a college football atmosphere for a pro football team. I’ve always contended that the one position that Buffalonians struggle assess, grade, etc. is the QB. It’s because the QB is the focal point of the team, and the team is the focal point of the city.
Jim Kelly’s swagger and confident attitude was more than able to carry this weight. Clausen could do it as well. Tebow too.
Add the weather, and playing QB for this team is tough.
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But the California QB thing is all about weather. It’s not like people from the state of California are less likely to make good QBs. So, since Losman played college football in the south, the California concern was still valid for some people. But since Clausen just lived through Indiana winters for a few years, got hit a ton of times early in his career and played through most of last season with two very painful torn ligaments where his big toe meets his plant foot, I’d say the Cali concerns don’t make any sense.
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Being a person that has never lived ouside of a lake effect area
Buffalo, South Bend, Chicago. I think Clausen is actually a quality QB in the elements. The Orchard Park winds are a bit worse than ND stadium.
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by SouthBuffaloNDgrad on Mar 9, 2010 9:22 PM EST up reply actions
Yeah, and considering that the Ralph is probably the windiest stadium in the league and college seasons end in November before the really brutal winter weather, you’re not finding any prospect who has really proven that he can play in Buffalo. Clausen is mentally tough on the field and has lived up north for awhile. I don’t understand the California thing at all.
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We are a jaded bunch
Cali QB’s- Rob, JP, Trent. The thing is the great cold weather QB Favre grew up in the south Miss. So, it’s how each individual player reacts to the elements. Well at least Locker playing in Seattle will be great in the rain. Yeah the Ralph due to some factor is obviously windy with only Chicago being able to compare, I think it’s windy at the Ralph becuase it’s kind of underground and the semi-open on each endzone, which could lead to the swirling winds we all know so well.
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by SouthBuffaloNDgrad on Mar 9, 2010 9:40 PM EST up reply actions
Good point, good point.
Taking another Cali guy just seems like tempting fate, though, right?
Jack Kemp was from California
He did alright here.
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Like DJ said above K, its that attitude thing, Kemp was a tough S.O.B
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and tom brady and aaron rodgers are soft?
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by norcaliangelsfan on Mar 11, 2010 12:31 PM EST up reply actions
How are you drawing that conclusion?
Using a guy’s college location or where he grew up as an excuse for why he couldn’t succeed in Buffalo or some other cold weather city makes absolutely no sense to me.
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mock draft
as far as dan williams goes, buddy nix has strong ties with southeast conference. this was player that would be taken.
i am starting to like anything but Clausen at 9
the best thing for this team will be a bad season and a a high pick next year so we can get locker, fill some more holes in the 3-4 and we will be on our way
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by billsoferie on Mar 9, 2010 7:45 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
Wouldn't break my heart to see this, but.......
I would really prefer to have the best LT available, especially since we didn’t take the one I wanted last year. I seriously hope we don’t use the pick on a QB, I really want to see the OL problem fixed first. I can honestly tell you I haven’t been this pumped for the draft in years, mostly because DJ isn’t involved. I look forward to see how FO does and promise not to scream at the tv.
I'll stop whining, when I stop caring!
Love it
Meat. Meat. And more meat.
DT or T at number 1, and I’m happy. I love the Dan Williams pick, although I’m not sure yet if it’s because of his potential or the fact that Miami will want him as well. Imagine Maybin and Schobel on the outside, with Williams in the middle of Stroud and Kyle. Sounds like we may have our own Williams Wall to defend with!
Also think this administration does not care for Clausen at 9, So if we took Dan Williams in the first, I would prefer to trade down in the 2nd to get Saffold at T and then trade back into the 2nd for D. LeFevour, to fill our future at QB. You should see this kids stats. He will be a stud in time.
by DJ O on Mar 9, 2010 9:00 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
REC'D MEAT ON THE LINE!
QB next year
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by SERGEANT MAJOR THOR on Mar 9, 2010 9:06 PM EST reply actions
My only concern is this.
He would be the third DT off the board at #9. I do trust your judgement, but you also mentioned something about it being a reach. IMO we got to take the grand slam regardless, no reaches, If CJ Spiller fell to us and we took him over the third OT of the draft, I could live with it better than another reach. You get all the benefit of the doubt from me, it is defenately a key position that we can’t afford to miss on.
This is like dumping a new puzzle from it's box. Now let's start putting the peices together. I guess this is what we all asked for.
Exactly, Suh and McCoy are better suited to a 4-3 DT situation than a 3-4 NT situation
Williams is a 3-4 NT ONLY
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The problem is we don't have enough picks
Yes, I know that’s always the problem, but it seems to be especially true this year. I share Brian’s guesses at this point that the Bills would like to end up with Tebow and Rodger Saffold (who Nix may well see as the second or third best OT in the draft) and a really good NT (either Dan Williams or Cam Thomas, who might be preferable to someone like Nix who values college production and a strong work ethic). That looks like a great draft to me.
The only way to get all three would be to trade down and get an extra second-round pick, but that takes someone to trade with. Another possibility might be to trade a current Bills player for a high draft pick (my choice would be McKelvin since we have a surplus of good CB’s and he is not likely to start this year). But one way or another we need to add another pick by the middle of the second round. Tebow may also go higher than people currently think, which could mean drafting him first, then Saffold second, and Cam Thomas third.
Having another second rounder would be a godsend this year
Specifically because guys are going to drop out of the first round, as they always do, and because of the value of the second round. Saffold is on par with Duane Brown IMO, a first rounder a couple years ago. Getting Saffold in the second would be a huge step forward for the OL.
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We have a surplus of CBs, but do we have a surplus of good CBs? After McKelvin, who I rank 3rd on our depth chart, we’ve got Youboty, Corner, Lankster, and Harris. Everyone of these guys is a question mark for different reasons, be it injuries, inconsistency, or inexperience. If Harris and Lankster develop this year, I’d be ok with putting McKelvin out to pasture, but probably not until then. Plus, I think we’re going to be playing more man than zone this year and that should be the better area for McKelvin, since he’s more of an instinctual guy than an analytical guy.
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by WhyBillsWhy on Mar 10, 2010 12:52 PM EST up reply actions
I think Lankster could become a solid Nickel back, sometime late this season
Kid has a nose for the ball and is pretty quick, which is needed there. I really see Bong Mode being traded along with a 4th or 3rd to get us another 2nd rounder so we could go QB/OT in some order.
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It’s possible Lankster becomes a reliable option. I’m not betting a former 1st round pick on it.
I feel like we need to get a couple picks for Lynch, not give one away. Because we’re already thin at RB, we’d pretty much need to draft one as well as procure another one in some fashion if we’re going to be as run-heavy as Gailey seemed to indicate.
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by WhyBillsWhy on Mar 11, 2010 12:50 PM EST up reply actions
I'm a big fan of Dan Williams, and I like the pick
I’m with you through 5. I think Seattle goes for Clausen over Spiller, but the logic is sound, eg: if they don’t take Spiller now, SF might.
Williams to Buffalo is smart. The NT pool in the draft is small, and most are flawed in some way: Cody is fat, Troup and Joseph are smaller school guys that aren’t as proven. So this is value and need met perfectly.
I didn’t understand Graham to the Broncos. Robert Ayers is playng OLB for them, so I would have went another way with that pick.
Odrick to the Pats is almost a lock in my mind. It’s too perfect…. need and value.
Overall, way better than most of the mock’s I’ve seen.
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Let me tell you a little story about Robert Ayers.
I didn’t get that pick at all last year by Denver. Didn’t think it was a good fit at all. Confused me so much that I just straight up forgot he was on their roster.
So, yeah. The Graham pick doesn’t make any sense, does it? :)
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by Brian Galliford on Mar 10, 2010 8:04 AM EST up reply actions
It’s funny how much more sense it would have made if our 1st round pick and Denver’s were reversed last year.
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by WhyBillsWhy on Mar 10, 2010 12:55 PM EST up reply actions
Wait, so what's your Robert Ayers story?!?!
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I like the pick, and wouldn't complain but...
I personally think the OT is a top priority. I think we could run with Stroud, the Williams on our roster, and a later round rookie at NT. I think Arthur Jones from SU might be decent value if he falls to us in the 3rd. He’s got size and speed, and just needs a little coaching to blossom into the position. His forte in college was stopping the run behind the line, and thats what we need.
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Brian, I have a question for you.
I like the pick, and predict this to be the pick myself. However, i would like them to trade back a bit and take him since it may be a bit of a “reach” at 9. How far back do you think we could trade back and still grab him? What do you think we would acquire for the move back? an additional second or third? I know the Giants and Dolphins have been linked with Mcclain from things I read. They may be willing to trade with us, but will Williams still be there? I also know teams may wan’t to trade up for Spiller and that “may” be the reason why the Bills are interviewing him or w.e. I think they may just be doing this to get other teams attention so they think we would take Spiller at 9. That would force them to trade up if they really wanted him.
If we can’t get Okung (which we def won’t) or Bulaga at 9 I would try to get Williams just cuz we really don’t have an option at NT. We now sort of at least have an option at RT so Williams is a much needed boost for sure. However, if we stayed at 9 and took Mcclain/Bulaga, I wouldn’t be disappointed.
Williams won't get by Miami or Denver, IMO
Even with Ferguson and Jamal Williams in the fold for those teams. Even SF at 13 could take him if they don’t sign Aubrayo Franklin to a longer term deal.
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"As the governor of Louisiana once said, the only way Chris Kelsay can lose his job is if he got caught in bed with a dead girl or a live boy."
Yeah, no way that happens, if we want Williams, #9 is it, unless someone gets stupid in handing picks over for that spot
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To be quite honest, I never, ever think about mock draft trade scenarios. This is a question for Ron. :)
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by Brian Galliford on Mar 10, 2010 6:05 AM EST up reply actions
I like this mock...
Good food for thought. I’m making one for Mocking the Draft, and its pretty similar in the early stages. I disagree with Miami however. I was going to go pass rusher with their pick myself until I realized that they were third in the league in sacks last year. Despite that, they were 26th in pass defense, and worst in yards per pass play (8.2). I’m giving them Earl Thomas. Plus, its a deep year for edge rushers. I think they wait until two.
Quite possible, and Thomas would be a good fit.
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by Brian Galliford on Mar 10, 2010 6:05 AM EST up reply actions
I'd probably take Clausen or trade down.
For years I’ve agreed with “build the trenches” but I have come to the point where I strongly believe we need a QB and if we have a chance to get Clausen we absolutely need to take that chance. If we don’t then and he’s still available at our position we should trade down as other teams might be a willing partner to take a franchise quarterback. I’m not worried about Dan Williams or any nosetackle slipping through our fingers with the amount of talent at tackle.
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For the love of draft day...
Excellent mock Brian.
The NFL has built the draft into a must see and arguably one of the most talked about events in football including the SB. I still don’t like the idea of the 1st round being on a Thursday Night because it kills the Saturday afternoon get together with friends.
By the way the draft is:
43 days 9 hours and 20 minutes away—-but who is counting!!!!
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Ha. This was linked on NFL.com, and the lone comment on the thread there read as follows:
Wow how very inaccurate!! Dumb blonde chicks must have put this list together!!!!!!!
Should I take it as a compliment that I am equated with chicks, plural, or does the blonde dilute in the negative as singular blonde becomes plural blonde? :)
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by Brian Galliford on Mar 10, 2010 10:12 AM EST reply actions
hahahahahahahahha
i love how a comment says its inaccurate, as if it already happened and your misreporting. How can it be inaccurate if its a mock draft? Its all predictive!
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I think they meant to say "dumb, blonde Chix"
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if I was a seattle seahawks fan
I’d call you the biggest genius ever.
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