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Making the case for Troy Smith

The Buffalo Bills, more than anything, need a franchise quarterback. (Duh!) But as the last 15 years has taught us, finding one is no easy task.  The answer is not on the current roster.  Trent Edwards, after a terribly regressive 2009 season, is quickly going the way of J.P. Losman, Billy Joe Hobert, and Rob Johnson.  Ryan Fitzpatrick is a cagey veteran with starter experience, but he will never be the princess wearing the glass slipper.  Brian Brohm is a young quarterback with potential, but the number of N.F.L. quarterbacks that go on to become success stories after being beat out for a team's number three job are far and few between. 

Unfortunately, looking at the opportunities that are presently available outside the organization, I'm not encouraged that the 2010 off-season will be any different than years past.  This year's crop is either made up of washed-up vets (Delhomme), aging superstars (McNabb), or underwhelming draftees that are either personally unappealing (Clauson) or products of the spread offense who probably need a few years of bench-time before being game ready (Bradford, McCoy).

Buffalo's best chance at landing a franchise quarterback will probably not come until the 2011 draft, where the quarterback class will be more talented and deeper than the current crop.   But that doesn't mean Buffalo should ignore the quarterback position in 2010.  They simply cannot afford to let another year go by without at least trying to adequately address their quarterback need.  Not after ten playoff-less years.  The Bills need to find a quarterback this year that has the potential to be a franchise quarterback, but in landing him, not hinder the team's ability to address their many other needs.  Enter Troy Smith.

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For a team like Buffalo, Smith offers a good number of desirable attributes, without the limitations of a large price tag.  At 25 years old, Smith is young enough to be the future of a franchise, but also not void of N.F.L. experience.   Although lacking in playing time, Smith has spent three years on the bench learning an N.F.L. offense.  This cannot be understated. 

Too often, in today's "what can you do for me now!" league, young quarterbacks are thrown into the fire before they are ready to fully contribute.  And when these young gunslingers inevitably struggle early on, teams often are quick to pull the plug - confidence be darned (Paging J.P. Losman).  Smith has had time to sit and learn an N.F.L. offense and to build some confidence.  He's a vet, but he's not washed up. He's young, but he's not raw.  Troy Smith is an invaluable commodity in today's N.F.L. (think a poor man's Aaron Rogers).

Any quarterback that Buffalo drafts in 2010 or beyond will need time to learn and adjust to the NFL.  That shouldn't stop them from drafting a young single-caller (I think they should), but just like the rest, the new talent will need to be groomed and prepared to lead a franchise.  Troy Smith, thanks to the patience of the Baltimore Ravens, has three years of "free" grooming. 

Smith also has the physical attributes and intangibles GM Buddy Nix is looking for in Buffalo's single-caller.  He's strong, and although somewhat short for an NFL quarterback (6'0"), he has the strong arm necessary for the cold, windy Buffalo winters.  And as a former multi-year starter for the Ohio State Buckeyes, Smith also has the leadership experience necessary for any NFL quarterback.

Finally, what also makes Smith attractive to Buffalo is the minimal compensation that they would be forced to give up in exchange for his services.  Smith, a restricted free agent, was only tendered as a "same-round" level by Baltimore (starter Joe Flacco is entrenched as the team's starter for the foreseeable future).  Any team is free to sign Smith to an offer sheet, but the Ravens have a right to match the offer.  If Baltimore elects not to do so, the team looking to sing Smith would be required to give the Ravens a fifth round draft pick as compensation.  

For Buffalo, a team in full-fledge rebuilding mode, a fifth round pick for a potential franchise quarterback is good value.  I don't know about the rest of you, but I would take the potential of Smith over a Nic Harris or Alvin Bowman, Buffalo last two fifth round picks.  In addition, under the current league rules (which would change under a new CBO agreement), Smith wouldn't become an unrestricted free agent until 2013.  Buffalo could (and probably should) give Smith a contract extension.  Even so, the compensation for an unproven quarterback would be manageable and wouldn't hinder the team's attempts to fill their other needs. 

One last, important point.  Even if Buffalo acquires Troy Smith, he should not be handed the starting quarterback job.  The starter should be decided by an open quarterback competition in training camp.  If Buffalo could go into the 2010 season with Fitz, Smith, and Brohm, then I'd be encouraged. Maybe Smith wins the camp competition for the starting job and all our dreams of Jim Kelly's successor are finally realized.  Maybe Brian Brohm surprises us in camp.

Worst case scenario, neither young gun is prepared to take over in 2010.  In that case, both Smith and Brohm can spend the year on the bench learning Gailey's offense, while Fitz carries the reins in 2010.  If Smith doesn't show enough promise by this time next year, then Buffalo can look to a much deeper 2011 draft class for their new quarterback of the future.

Troy Smith is no guarantee, but who is?  What he is, however, is Buffalo's best opportunity to find their quarterback of the future now, without mortgaging the future.  Buffalo should give him a good, long look.

Just another great fan opinion shared on the pages of BuffaloRumblings.com.

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But why is Troy Smith such a desirable commodity???

Because he has a strong arm and was a good player for Ohio State?

I’m not disagreeing at all, because I wouldn’t mind making a run at him, but why does his name keeping popping up as some great potential acquisition?? Why did Baltimore feel the need to immediately bring in a franchise QB the year after picking Smith? Why did they only place an original round tender on him?

I’d have to imagine his physical stature is a major issue when teams consider him. His lack of experience to go with that makes him a pretty risky acquisition, though not that much considering the compensation wouldn’t be much.

~K
"As the governor of Louisiana once said, the only way Chris Kelsay can lose his job is if he got caught in bed with a dead girl or a live boy."

by Kurupt on Mar 9, 2010 1:32 PM EST reply actions  

They drafted Smith in 2007
In 2008 they were fluhing McNair & Boller and probably intended on going with Smith and decided to draft a rooky to back him up
Smith gets ill, Flacco performs great and the rest is history! Now that Smith is lobbying for a trade, I can understand why they’d be open to trading him to prevent any distractions.

For the record JR, I agree with your post. Especially since Smith looked pretty good before getting ill and ultimately losing his job to Flacco. I’d send our 5th to Baltimore and then dump Fitzpatrick. Go into the season with Smith, Brohm & Edwards and let then fight it out on an even playing field.

Nothing left to say... the clock is ticking...

by keysh67 on Mar 9, 2010 1:59 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

I’d send our 5th to Baltimore and then dump Fitzpatrick. Go into the season with Smith, Brohm & Edwards and let then fight it out on an even playing field.

ya – that sounds good to me

We got the tools, We got the talent

by J2 on Mar 9, 2010 2:24 PM EST up reply actions  

not a concern for me this year. some might – but I’ve resigned to the fact that this will be a transition or rebuilding year

We got the tools, We got the talent

by J2 on Mar 10, 2010 8:56 AM EST up reply actions  

Smith

I wouldn’t mind at least giving him a shot. A 5th round pick for someone who was decent in college and has been in the NFL getting a bit of work, can run, and has a pretty solid arm. Why not give him a shot to win the job along with everyone else and let Chan the Man pick which QB he think will work best for him. I think that it’s worth it but I don’t see us doing it.

by billsfan26 on Mar 9, 2010 5:11 PM EST up reply actions  

But why is Troy Smith such a desirable commodity???

Because Whitner’s pulling for him.

2010 Bills' truth in advertising: "Look out Cleveland, this year we score 6!" - bluecollarbuffalo

by thefourwinds on Mar 9, 2010 2:28 PM EST up reply actions  

oh crap!

Nothing left to say... the clock is ticking...

by keysh67 on Mar 9, 2010 2:35 PM EST up reply actions  

Because he has a strong arm and was a good player for Ohio State?

No, those are only two of many reasons. Actually, being a die-hard Penn State fan, the Ohio State thing would count against him in my book!

why does his name keeping popping up as some great potential acquisition??

I think because he’s the best option available when all factors are considered. Youth. NFL experience. Potential. Cheap. He’s not the ideal candidate, but no one is. Buffalo should look to the 2011 draft for the potential superstar QB, but there’s no harm in trying to find their diamond-in-the-rough in 2010. Troy Smith, to many people, offers the best odds of that (even if they may not be high to begin with).

Why did Baltimore feel the need to immediately bring in a franchise QB the year after picking Smith? Why did they only place an original round tender on him?

Two good questions. As far as Flacco goes, he was always seen as less of a project. Smith’s size had a lot to do with his draft status/expectations. As for your second question, I don’t have a good answer.

His lack of experience to go with that makes him a pretty risky acquisition, though not that much considering the compensation wouldn’t be much.

I don’t think he’d be a risky acquisition for exactly the reason you mention: compensation, both in terms of salary and draft pick they would need to give up. Personally, when I’m looking to get the best bang out of my buck, I’d choose a 25-year-old, QB w/ 3 years of NFL prep time over an unknown 5th round pick. If the Bills miss wildly on Smith, it won’t set them back much – if at all.

I think it would be a much bigger risk to draft Bradford or Clauson in the first round of this year’s draft. The Bills miss on one of them and they automatically set themselves back a couple of years. Smith, on the otherhand, is a minor risk for a potentially major reward.

John I.

by jri111 on Mar 9, 2010 3:24 PM EST up reply actions  

I’m not sure why anyone would be opposed to bringing him in for a 5th if he potentially be the answer for us.

as you said – he’s had time to digest the NFL

We got the tools, We got the talent

by J2 on Mar 9, 2010 3:31 PM EST up reply actions  

But he doesn't have much experience

Getting practice reps is hardly the same as game experience. He’s thrown 89 passes.

I said I wasn’t against the acquisition, and think the idea has a lot of good points. I’m just wondering why, outside of the compensation, Smith is somebody that many people seem to want so badly. You’d think Baltimore would have done more to try keeping him, or getting better compensation in return. We’re talking about a 6’ QB with very little experience, who’s team doesn’t seem all that interested in keeping him around. Makes me wonder.

~K
"As the governor of Louisiana once said, the only way Chris Kelsay can lose his job is if he got caught in bed with a dead girl or a live boy."

by Kurupt on Mar 9, 2010 4:12 PM EST up reply actions  

i mean… they have flacco, so keeping him around isnt that big a priority

and why people keep coming back to him in particular? cause his situation is pretty damn unique.
-He was given the starting job (at least as a stop-gap… hello Buffalo’s situation)
-He’s a young guy who wouldnt have to spend a few years getting up to speed with being in the NFL, he is in the NFL

he may not have game experience, but who does without being given an opportunity? he could blow… but so could our 5th round pick

we the FANS the VOICE the PEOPLE the true BLOOD of the Buffalo BILLS are just doing all this SO mAYBE just MAYbe the Coach THE teAM will just see how us the FANS the the SPARTAN aka BUFARTAN we will not Surrender to know onE.
-abayarde

by uPitt_BillsFan on Mar 9, 2010 6:14 PM EST up reply actions  

like it but will not happen

"Hold ya chin up...nuh nuh nuh...gone" -Marshawn Lynch-

by billsoferie on Mar 9, 2010 1:46 PM EST reply actions  

Troy Smith

I’m sorry. I must have been asleep for the past couple of years. Just what has Smith done so well on the football field that proves he better than Trent Edwards????

by Bob on Mar 9, 2010 3:14 PM EST reply actions  

Well...

aside from college success/production, which I’m sure you won’t accept as legitimate anyways, how about unknown potentail. We know where Trent Edwards’ ceiling is, and it isn’t very high. We do not konw the extent of Smith’s potential yet. To me, that makes him worth the 5th round compensation (among other things).

John I.

by jri111 on Mar 9, 2010 3:29 PM EST up reply actions  

exactly

hes a young confident guy with decent potential that hasnt been ruined like Edwards.

Edwards has flat-out lost the team’s confidence, just like Losman did when everyone was pulling for Holcomb

god last season was the worst case of deha vu ive ever had (Losman:Holcomb::Edwards:Fitzpatrick)

we the FANS the VOICE the PEOPLE the true BLOOD of the Buffalo BILLS are just doing all this SO mAYBE just MAYbe the Coach THE teAM will just see how us the FANS the the SPARTAN aka BUFARTAN we will not Surrender to know onE.
-abayarde

by uPitt_BillsFan on Mar 9, 2010 6:17 PM EST up reply actions  

Remember back a few years when two QB’s were coming out of college after great college success. Manning was one, who turned out really good. The other very successful college QB didn’t turn out to well. So much for college success!!

by Bob on Mar 9, 2010 7:19 PM EST up reply actions  

I dont know about Smith.......

But I would take him over any QB in this years draft……..(including Tebow and my Man Crush Max Hall)

The price would be okay too………5th round pick? Done and Done……

(I’d still rather give Brohm the shot first of the guys we got on the team)

The only cure for a bad today is tomorrow.

by norcaliangelsfan on Mar 9, 2010 3:37 PM EST reply actions  

smith wants the browns

Troy asked his agent to arrange for him to be in Cleveland and said he will even “crawl” to Ohio – where he was born and raised and played college ball – to make it happen. Troy wants to go home and the release of Derek Anderson today leads me to believe mike holmgren is willing to oblige him

"you just have to know there's always going to be adversity. None of these games are going to be easy. Nothing will be given to us" - Paul Posluszny

by poz on Mar 9, 2010 4:25 PM EST via mobile reply actions  

They just traded for Seneca Wallace

Why do they need another 6’ QB?

~K
"As the governor of Louisiana once said, the only way Chris Kelsay can lose his job is if he got caught in bed with a dead girl or a live boy."

by Kurupt on Mar 9, 2010 5:02 PM EST up reply actions  

didnt know that happened

But seneca Wallace and brady Quinn? Yuck

"you just have to know there's always going to be adversity. None of these games are going to be easy. Nothing will be given to us" - Paul Posluszny

by poz on Mar 9, 2010 5:09 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

I actually think Wallace is pretty good.

yeah he’s short……….but the guy is a gamer.

The only cure for a bad today is tomorrow.

by norcaliangelsfan on Mar 9, 2010 5:20 PM EST up reply actions  

Nobody knows if Smith can even tie his shoes........

…….. before getting behind an NFL line.
I think we already have 3 projects, and don’t need another.

"A failure becomes just one time at bat if you refuse to let it defeat you." Marv Levy.

by SERGEANT MAJOR THOR on Mar 9, 2010 8:35 PM EST up reply actions  

Smith was pretty much the starter in Baltimore before getting sick.

And then Flacco stepped in and was successful as a starter. Smith isn’t a franchise QB, but he might be available on the cheap. We would still draft a QB in the second or 3rd round and get rid of Fitz and maybe even Trent or Brohm.

The reason why his name keeps popping up? He’s not a loser. And he’s not on the downside of his career. And the price is probably worth the risk.

Schmucks don't make it to the Pro Bowl... except Jason Peters!

by Run Thurmal Run! on Mar 10, 2010 6:55 PM EST up reply actions  

Gamer

Living in Seattle, I’ve seen Seneca a few times and your dead on with the "gamer’ assesment. The guy gives 110%…

by buffalobacker on Mar 9, 2010 6:58 PM EST reply actions  

A Nittany Lion pining for a Buckeye? What have we come to? Dogs and cats living together, mass hysteria!

No weekend spent pantsless is a wasted weekend.

by sireric on Mar 9, 2010 8:07 PM EST reply actions  

haha...

but NEVER a Wolverine, NEVER. Scum of the earth. Scum!!

John I.

by jri111 on Mar 9, 2010 9:22 PM EST up reply actions  

Damn Skunkbears.

" A wise man once told me, never argue with a fool, becuase from a far, you can't tell who is who" - Jay-Z

by SouthBuffaloNDgrad on Mar 10, 2010 12:48 AM EST up reply actions  

I'm all for it...

He seems to have the same intangibles Tebow has that make him successful so I would be more then happy to take a flyer on him even if it cost a 4th rounder

Rrrawrrrr, rrrawrrr like a dungeon dragon-Busta Ryhmes

by Moe_frm_B_ on Mar 9, 2010 10:05 PM EST reply actions  

What makes him seem to have the same intagibles as Tebow? If I could ask?

I just don’t see it, yea both successful college QB’s in great programs, Smith isn’t nearly the physical runner Tebow is. Troy also will be an average QB in the NFL, Tebow is still a prospect and could wind up at another position. Would T Smith line up as an H-Back or TE, I think not. Two totally diffeent QB’s with not much in common, not even size wise. Also, a 4th for Smith is awful, maybe a 6-7th rounder for a guy that we don’t need. I would rather have a QB from a smaller type of school that didn’t have talent at his disposal compared to those 2 schools ( tOSU & UF) that had to lead guys with not as mich talent like Lafeavor, Pike, or Snead.

" A wise man once told me, never argue with a fool, becuase from a far, you can't tell who is who" - Jay-Z

by SouthBuffaloNDgrad on Mar 10, 2010 12:59 AM EST reply actions  

I WANT SMITH

Troy SMith would be deff worth a 5th round pick i say go for him. Hes gotta be better then what we got

by Taber New Bedford Buffalo on Mar 10, 2010 9:55 AM EST reply actions  

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