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Bills should find excellent value in Round 2

The second round of the NFL Draft has traditionally been very kind to the Buffalo Bills throughout the team's 50-year history. The franchise has selected future Hall of Famers Thurman Thomas and Billy Shaw in the second round. They've found a slew of solid long-term starters in the round, including Jim Dunaway, Reggie McKenzie, Jim Haslett, Fred Smerlas, Darryl Talley, Nate Odomes and Phil Hansen, among others.

Even during the desolate landscape that has been the last decade of Bills football, really solid players have been found in the second round. Travis Henry and Aaron Schobel were second-round picks of Tom Donahoe. The Bills got longevity, if without huge production, out of players like Josh Reed, Ryan Denney, Chris Kelsay and Roscoe Parrish. Paul Posluszny was an exciting second-round pick in 2007. Just a year ago, the Bills picked a Pro Bowler in the second round in Jairus Byrd, and added an excellent building block along the offensive line in guard Andy Levitre.

Inevitably, every year, we see a prospect projected for months to go in the first round slide to Round 2. Posluszny was one of those players in 2007. Philadelphia WR DeSean Jackson and Cincinnati LB Rey Maualuga are good examples. Sometimes those prospects slide for good reason, as was the case with New England (and now Buffalo) WR Chad Jackson in 2006, and Jacksonville (and now Oakland) OT Khalif Barnes in 2005.

This year's draft class is deep. The talent pool available at the top of the second round will be significant. After the jump, I've named five players that will be tremendous second-round value picks should they slide that far, and all would fit well in Buffalo.

Star-divide

Jahvid Best, RB, California. I don't want to give too much away, because we'll discuss this next week as draft day approaches, but I believe Best is one of the 15 best prospects available this year. C.J. Spiller gets all the ink, but Best - though a little rougher around the edges - is just as talented. I still believe he'll be a first-round pick, but there's a good chance he slides to the top of round two, where he'd make a ton of sense for the Detroit Lions at No. 34 overall. In Buffalo, he'd fulfill Chan Gailey's request for a scat back admirably.

Everson Griffen, DE, USC. He had a disappointing career at USC, where he started just one of three years after coming in as one of the nation's top recruits. Still, given his lack of playing time relative to other prospects, his 18.0 career sacks is a surprisingly high total, and a testament to his truly excellent athletic abilities. There is a great deal of untapped potential with Griffen, and he's capable of playing in either a 4-3 or a 3-4 scheme. He's slightly boom-or-bust, but for a team starved for pass rush help - like the Bills - you could certainly do worse than this guy, particularly in the second round.

Golden Tate, WR, Notre Dame. One of college football's most prolific receivers over the past two seasons, Tate doesn't have the size or strength requirements to be a full-time starter in the NFL, but has the speed, quicks and playmaking ability to have a long, illustrious career as an elite slot receiver. 25 touchdowns in his last two seasons prove he's capable of making big plays, and he's a true terror after the catch. Buffalo has some young talent to develop at receiver, but those prospects lack the capability to consistently separate from corners one-on-one. That fact alone would allow Tate to see significant playing time as a rookie in Buffalo.

Vladimir Ducasse, OL, Massachusetts. Scouts have fallen in love with the high-upside Haitian from FCS. He played left tackle at UMass, but most believe that he projects better to guard or right tackle at the NFL level. Ducasse is a finisher - he blocks hard, he blocks downhill, and he excels in the run game. There's a lot of technical work to be done to clean up his game, particularly in pass protection, which is why he'd be best served starting inside. But run-first teams with a smash mouth identity will look hard at Ducasse as a possible instant starter capable of shifting outside down the line, and Buffalo could use all the smash mouth O-Line help it can get.

Bruce Campbell, OT, Maryland. I realize that Al Davis has likely already marked his territory, but if Campbell somehow gets past Oakland's No. 8 overall pick, there's a strong chance that Campbell's lack of experience, injury history and field inconsistencies could drop him out of the first round entirely. If that happens, Campbell will not only be a solid value pick in Round 2, but he has a chance to make a team very happy with that decision long-term. Campbell has the physical talents to quickly develop into an elite pass protector, and if he can stay healthy and develop a stronger passion for the game, could emerge as a well-rounded and highly talented tackle.

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Got room for one more?

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by Michael_Necci on Apr 17, 2010 12:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

me too…this kid is awesome, and I see him getting playing time as a #2 in the NFL.
Stretches the field, great hands, and willing to go over the middle.

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by shrubz on Apr 17, 2010 12:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

Always room for more. Count me in.

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by SouthBuffaloNDgrad on Apr 17, 2010 1:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

me too. he’d be an outstanding number two. and we get clausen in the first and him in the second…

by herrmann on Apr 17, 2010 2:57 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

Look at this, I have another ND man, welcome aboard. I see you're a newer poster (commenter),

And also most importanly, I see you like ND, obviously I do also. Anyway, the funny thing was, during the season and even during the final 6 game demise, I would always say the Bills (watching them throughout the season) need to go round 1- Clausen, Round 2- Tate, filling our needs for skill players and haveing the ability to score more often. At the time, before Weis was getting the axe for sure, they both weren’t gurantees they were going pro. But now, I know that they could go Clausen @ 9, but I’m not sure who they should take at that pick, I’m on board for a OT (Buluga, T. Williams), or D. Williams, but wouldn’t be upset with or without Clausen, I would understand either way. I bet neither one are on our roster, and I hope the Pats or even another AFC East team gets Tate, I would hate playing him twice a season. Anyway, hopefully Brian Kelly can be the man to turn this program around, I think he’s a great college coach, where Charlie is meant for the NFL, I think anyways. Welcome to the jungle baby!!! haha, that was so lame. Go Bills!! Go Irish!! Go Sabers!! even with the series being tied now 1-1, man tough home loss, got to steal one in Boston.

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by SouthBuffaloNDgrad on Apr 17, 2010 3:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

Arrelious Benn is better and a better fit for us

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by atlantalove on Apr 17, 2010 7:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

dunno if benn is better

but tate and evans are too much alike for me. would rather a bigger guy with speed. problem is he might already be on the team with hardy….tate is one of those wr’s that can change a team though….

i just keep going back an forth on the tate discussion. id rather draft him than regret it though….

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by silverstreak3k on Apr 18, 2010 5:04 AM EDT up reply actions  

forgot to write you back on the schulz jersey q

i got it midway through his career. picked him cuz he was a hard hitter, and when i was young i played safety. one of my fav bills, and yes i still own that champion embroidered jersey..

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by silverstreak3k on Apr 18, 2010 5:10 AM EDT up reply actions  

thanks for the warm welcome

I’ve been lurking for a while but I’m just starting to comment. as my mom is an alum, i’ve been going to games as long as I can remember and have been a life long fan (I’ll be applying next year as well.) count me among the few here who think clausen in buffalo would work

by herrmann on Apr 18, 2010 8:03 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

Agreed Brian

I fully agree with you on Best. I think he’ll be the better pro, assuming concussions aren’t an issue. I like him better than Spiller and feel he’s the better all around RB. I’m not sure why Spiller gets all the ink, either, because Best is every bit the playmaker Spiller is. If he goes where many project, late 1st or early 2nd, some team will have gotten a steal. If SD gets him as their LT replacement, it’d be a helluva pickup.

I have visions of Josh Reed when I see Tate. Similar builds and both had great college production. Tate is more athletic, so that will help him, but I’m not sure how well his game will work in the pros. He’s a really interesting prospect in my book.

Hypothetically, let’s say the Bills draft Tebow at #9 (zoinks!), would Ducasse be a great fit in the 2nd? As a guy who will seems like a better fit for a strong running team, that would seem to make sense. With a left handed QB, would a player like Ducasse on the right side work out well? Would the Bills, or any team, want a LT prospect to play RT with a lefty, or would they want an athletic player who would be a RT regardless playing there??

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by Kurupt on Apr 17, 2010 12:34 PM EDT reply actions  

Interesting thought about a left handed QB and RT vs LT. Wasn’t Levi Brown drafted (at 5th overall) to protect the blindside of Leinart as an RT?

by karovda on Apr 17, 2010 1:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

The LT/RT responsibilities don’t change with a lefty at QB. The defense will always line their best pass rusher up on the side away from the tight end, which is more often than not over the left tackle. It has more to do with offensive alignment than who’s playing QB.

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by Brian Galliford on Apr 17, 2010 1:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

Sure, but with a lefty, they’ll have more vision and a better feel for what’s happening on the left side of the field. It doesn’t flip job of LT to RT, but it does make the LT’s job easier, while making the RT’s job a little tougher.

Ideally, you would have tweener types (like the Cards did with Brown, or like I view Trent Williams to be) on both sides. Good run blockers who hold their own in pass pro. If a guy like Ducasse really does have LT feet, but is kind of a tweener, then I think he does fit better, regardless of what side he ends up playing on, with a lefty at QB.

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by kaisertown on Apr 17, 2010 1:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

Then why was that movie about Lawrence Taylor called “The Blind Side”? I only watched the first five minutes.

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by MattRichWarren on Apr 18, 2010 8:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

I say Tate is more like Steve Smith 1.0, honestly, nothing about his style of play makes me think of Josh Reed, IMO.

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by SouthBuffaloNDgrad on Apr 17, 2010 1:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

Campbell can be a boom or bust, his athletic ability is amazing, but he’s 50/50 for me. If he’s available 2nd round and we haven’t taken a OT yet id like him.
Why isn’t Roger Staffold on this list?

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by atlantalove on Apr 17, 2010 12:43 PM EDT reply actions  

Saffold? Because I put Ducasse and Campbell up there. All three have a shot to go in the first, IMO, because I think there will be an early run on OL.

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by Brian Galliford on Apr 17, 2010 1:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

Charles Brown too

Although i feel he will go in the late first round

by Brennan McCoy on Apr 17, 2010 1:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think he’ll go in the 20s.

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by Brian Galliford on Apr 17, 2010 1:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

Charles Brown= 23, GB in my opinion

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by atlantalove on Apr 17, 2010 7:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

If not there, then possibly to Dallas as well.

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by Brian Galliford on Apr 18, 2010 7:29 AM EDT up reply actions  

Campbell.....I guess

I believe the Bills might take Morgan in the first. Therefore, a LT is most likely needed next (assuming a QB didn’t fall that far). Although I don’t personally care for Campbell, he is the only LT on your list. But if it were up to me, I’d take Saffold.

Dream scenario would be trading Schobel and Lynch in a package deal to Houston, for their 2nd and 5th round picks (if Jason Taylor could fetch a 2nd by himself, I don’t see this being an impossibility). If this happened, I would love Best with our second, Saffold with Houston’s 2nd.

by DJ O on Apr 17, 2010 1:59 PM EDT reply actions  

What about the DT's?

I think there is a strong chance that the Bills’ pick in the second round this year is a NT — Cam Thomas or Torrell Troup of Linval Joseph (whoever they like best). And whoever they choose among that group will likely be a very valuable contributor to the team for years to come.

The basic point about the second round is a good one. It’s Belichick’s favorite round, after all, and he knows what he is doing. That’’s why I am hoping the Bills trade down from pick #9 in order to get another second-rounder.

by Macktruck on Apr 17, 2010 2:51 PM EDT reply actions  

I also agree the second round point is a good one. For your selection of NT in the second, does that mean you predict we take LT in the first? If so, what makes you believe NT is a better option in the 2nd than OLB?

And while I think of it, where is the news about Schobel not deciding whether he’ll play or not, before the draft? Please tell me the Favre retirement option doesn’t become the norm in pro sports:)

by DJ O on Apr 17, 2010 3:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

My guess is that it’s either an OT or Tebow in the first (assuming the Browns take Clausen) — although my preferred scenario is to trade down from #9 and pick Rodger Saffold if we go OT and get that extra second round pick. (To put that another way, I would rather Saffold and a good OLB than Bulaga or Trent Williams by themselves.) And yes, I think NT is a more vital position in a 3-4 defense than OLB, although I agree that adding a pass-rushing OLB is important.

I hope Favre does not become the model for NFL stars thinking about retirement, but who knows? In any event it looks like the Bills are going to have to make their draft decisions without knowing one way or the other about Schobel, alas.

by Macktruck on Apr 17, 2010 4:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

Potential Rookie of the Year Jahvid Best

I def agree with the Jahvid Best praise he is my favorite running back this year and I think he could potentially recieve ROY honors since he has a good chance of being drafted by a quality team like San Diego.
Other Potnetial 2nd Round Gems I think include He who not be named, WR Arrelious Benn, TE Rob Gronkowski, LB Eric Norwood, NT Terrence Cody, and DE Corey Wootton

by BuFFaL0nian on Apr 17, 2010 3:23 PM EDT reply actions  

I completely agree

If I remember correctly most pundits called for Poz to be a 1st rounder.

Although I think Tim Tebow should make the 2nd round value list ;-)

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by Jason from OH-IO on Apr 17, 2010 3:29 PM EDT reply actions  

Value list implies they have some sort of value.

So what are the chances for an Avalanche vs. Sabres finals, eh?
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by UZ on Apr 18, 2010 4:46 AM EDT up reply actions  

uhhhh

riiiiiight……

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by silverstreak3k on Apr 18, 2010 5:01 AM EDT up reply actions  

scatback

Here’s hoping Gailey’s scatback can be found in the 5th round or later…I loathe the idea of wasting high impact draft choices on running backs. Personally, I kind of like Curtis Steele from Memphis, who lit it up in that Texas vs. the Nation game that I got stuck watching a few months ago.

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by Port Royal on Apr 17, 2010 4:50 PM EDT reply actions  

I agree 100%

My belief is that you don’t draft a RB early until you have most of your pieces in place like o-line and QB. I hear people compering Spiller to Chris Johnson but in my opinion if Buffalo was to take him and not improve o-line his career would resemble that of Darren Mcfadden more than C Johnson’s.

by wideright47 on Apr 17, 2010 7:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

Agreed

That is why all the Spiller talk upsets me, RB’s are a dime a dozen. DRAFT THE TRENCHES PLEASE BUFFALO!!! Golden Tate is something special, the way he goes hard for the ball is amazing. I think he could teach Lee Evans a thing or two about goin over the middle

by weebey on Apr 18, 2010 10:27 AM EDT up reply actions  

Good ol Travis Henry, congrats, heard you had 25 kids with 25 women…and now your in jail? You were a great player, just couldn’t find the right gal

"If you have a milkshake and I have a milkshake and I have a straw and my straw reaches across the room and starts to drink your milkshake. I-DRINK-YOUR-MILKSHAKE! SSSSHHHLLLUUUURRRPPPPP I DRINK IT UP!!!!!!"- There Will be Blood-one of the best quotes EVER!!

by atlantalove on Apr 17, 2010 7:50 PM EDT reply actions  

Crazy scenerio, but possible...

What about Clausen with the first round pick, and Golden Tate with the second rounder?
They can continue to be teammates. They will have timing down already, and any advantage we can get for the passing game would be greatly appreciated.
It probably won’t happen, but it’s within the realm of possibility.

Thoughts on the chance of it happening?
or thoughts about how you would feel if it did happen?

by :-P on Apr 18, 2010 1:12 AM EDT reply actions  

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