Buffalo Rumblings 2010 NFL Mock Draft

by Brian Galliford on Apr 20, 2010 8:00 AM EDT in 2010 NFL Draft

The 2010 NFL Draft is set to begin Thursday night at 7:30 PM ET. You've read and digested enough mock drafts over the past several months that you've probably reached a point where you've got mock draft indigestion, which is why we're going to get right to the point with this.

After the jump, you'll find my final two-round mock draft of 2010. I did not project any trades, because attempting to project a trade is like attempting to project the next time you get a cold. I'm just as happy the mocking is over as you are, folks. Let's have one last mock debate, get through this as a community, and then wait with bated breath for Thursday night to arrive.

RD	NO	TEAM	PLAYER	POS	COLL
1	1		Sam Bradford	QB	Oklahoma
The Rams need a franchise signal-caller. Bradford has the highest upside of any QB available this year, and he's healthy to boot. He's a great fit in St. Louis, where the comfort of a dome will accentuate his best trait - accuracy. Keep him healthy, and Bradford will return that franchise to prominence.
1	2		Ndamukong Suh	DT	Nebraska
You'll hear whispers that the Lions are considering taking Russell Okung; don't buy it. Jim Schwartz and Martin Mayhew are experienced personnel men that consider player value before positional value. This pick is going to be a defensive tackle; the only question is which one the Lions go with. Gerald McCoy might be a better fit, but it's Suh that profiles as the more dominant player in late-season trips to Lambeau Field and Soldier Field.
1	3		Gerald McCoy	DT	Oklahoma
They'll take whichever defensive tackle the Lions don't, and be thrilled to do so. The Bucs moved back to the traditional one-gap Tampa 2 scheme under head coach Raheem Morris, and McCoy has the penetration and athletic skills to be a dominant force in the mold of Warren Sapp.
1	4		Russell Okung	OT	Oklahoma State
There's a chance Washington could take Jimmy Clausen here, but that seems a bit luxurious given Donovan McNabb's presence, Dan Snyder's impatience and the utter atrocity that is Washington's tackle position. Okung is a very safe investment that will excel on the left side in Mike Shanahan's zone-blocking scheme.
1	5		Bryan Bulaga	OT	Iowa
Scott Pioli is a curious dude. There are better players here that would give the Chiefs much better first-round impact and value, such as Eric Berry and Rolando McClain, but safeties and inside linebackers rarely go this high. Pioli will take the safe route at a value position, taking the hard-working tackle in Bulaga.
1	6		Trent Williams	OT	Oklahoma
The run on OTs has begun, and it is imperative that the Seahawks get a long-term blind-side protector for Matt Hasselbeck and Charlie Whitehurst. Williams has soared up draft boards thanks to Michael Oher's brilliant rookie season, and could go even higher than this. He's an excellent fit in Seattle.
1	7		Eric Berry	S	Tennessee
Mike Holmgren is running the show now, and while there's a good chance that the Browns could target Clausen here, I don't think that will happen if Berry is on the board. Berry's an outstanding prospect with immense talent, and he'd act as Eric Mangini's defensive quarterback for the next decade-plus.
1	8		Jason Pierre-Paul	DE	South Florida
Al Davis is rollin' the dice here, folks. He may be crazy, but he's not stupid, and it's far, far too early to go with Bruce Campbell. The Raiders picked up Kamerion Wimbley earlier this off-season, and JPP would team with Wimbley to give the Raiders serious speed to get after Philip Rivers.
1	9		Anthony Davis	OT	Rutgers
With the top three tackles off the board, this is an interesting decision. Clausen seems to be out of the equation. Dan Williams would give the team a nose tackle, but might be a reach here. Adding athleticism to the OLB group makes sense, too, but again, there just isn't value here. We haven't heard much negative coming out of OBD regarding Davis, and that may be a good thing. His attitude and maturity need work, but the Bills' need for a left tackle outweighs those considerations. This is the best value pick, as well.
1	10		Jimmy Clausen	QB	Notre Dame
Sometimes, the right decision is also the hard decision. The current Jaguars regime is on thin ice, and the team is frequently mentioned in possible relocation talks surrounding Los Angeles. If Jack Del Rio wants to stay Jacksonville's head coach, he needs immediate impact. Then again, David Garrard is not the future, and they have no one waiting in the wings. Clausen is the right pick for this team.
1	11		Earl Thomas	S	Texas
Denver's tough to get a read on, not only because Josh McDaniels makes a ton of seemingly crazy personnel decisions, but because he drafts the same way. He comes from a New England system where ball skills are valued above all else, and Denver's defense needs playmakers. Thomas is a great fit here.
1	12		Derrick Morgan	OLB	Georgia Tech
Miami doesn't have much in the way of needs. After adding some serious talent to the offense in the form of Brandon Marshall, the Dolphins could choose to add to its OLB position, where Joey Porter and Jason Taylor have departed. Morgan is a good fit schematically and a solid value selection.
1	13		C.J. Spiller	RB	Clemson
Mike Singletary needs to fortify his offensive line, particularly at the OT position, but no one's available here. Instead, he'll choose to pick a back that makes average lines look incredible in Spiller, who teams with Vernon Davis, Frank Gore and Michael Crabtree to make Alex Smith one of the richest QBs in the league.
1	14		Dez Bryant	WR	Oklahoma State
After trying and failing to land Brandon Marshall, the Seahawks instead select the player that's been compared to Marshall in Bryant. Pete Carroll won't be concerned with his diva attitude, not only because those things don't concern him, but because they're so desperate for talent out west. Good value, good fit, huge upside.
1	15		Rolando McClain	ILB	Alabama
If McClain is available at No. 15 overall, this pick is a total no-brainer. The Giants have a gaping hole at middle linebacker after the departure of Antonio Pierce, and McClain is not only a great value selection, but the biggest-impact player that the Giants could possibly choose here.
1	16		Brandon Graham	DE	Michigan
It was bad enough with Peyton Manning in the division, but now the Titans need to contend with Matt Schaub and the high-powered Texans passing attack, as well. They'll need a pass rush to do so, and Graham is the most polished pass rusher available this year. He'd start right away for Jeff Fisher.
1	17		Sergio Kindle	OLB	Texas
Singletary still can't get his tackle, and as he's already added a playmaker to his offense, he might as well give it a shot on the defensive side of the ball, too. San Francisco really needs to address its pass rush; Kindle is a great scheme fit, is a tremendous athlete and plays physically, all which will be endearing to Singletary.
1	18		Joe Haden	CB	Florida
Depending on what happens with Ben Roethlisberger, this is a Steelers team that is poised to turn it around quickly. Pittsburgh's pass defense was highly average last season, and adding Haden to the return of Troy Polamalu would make the Steelers' defense a dominant unit once more. If Big Ben sits, they'll need that defense to be dominant.
1	19		Kyle Wilson	CB	Boise State
The Falcons made their big free agent splash when they signed Dunta Robinson to a huge deal, but if the Falcons are going to keep up with the Saints in the NFC South, they'll need to slow down Drew Brees. Jerry Hughes makes sense, but adding a physical corner to play the slot and return punts makes a great deal of sense, too.
1	20		Maurkice Pouncey	C	Florida
Already boasting an elite passing offense, the Texans could stand to firm up the middle of its offensive line, as well as add talent to its defense. Pouncey is a great value pick here, fits in well with Gary Kubiak's offensive system, and can start at either guard or center as a rookie.
1	21		Jermaine Gresham	TE	Oklahoma
It is absolutely imperative that the Bengals add receiving talent to this team, because it is beyond ludicrous that the team can't pass the ball effectively with a solid offensive line and Carson Palmer under center. Gresham is the best receiver available here.
1	22		Jared Odrick	DE	Penn State
Bill Belichick spent the 2009 season toying with 4-3 looks after the trade of Richard Seymour; I sincerely doubt he wants to do that again. He needs as much 3-4 talent as he can get this year, and Odrick is a good start. He'd start alongside Vince Wilfork and Ty Warren on a once-again-solid three-man defensive line.
1	23		Jahvid Best	RB	California
People are projecting pass rushers and offensive tackles to Green Bay, but Ted Thompson is a man who likes to stockpile offensive skill talent - just look at his receiver position. It's about time he starts doing it at running back. Best is the absolute best player remaining on the board and gives Green Bay's lethal offense a home run threat on the ground, something it currently lacks.
1	24		Mike Iupati	OG	Idaho
Andy Reid typically drafts college tackles to play guard for him, but I think he'd make an exception for Iupati (who could play right tackle in a pinch). Iupati is the best all-around guard this year by a mile, and pairing him up next to Jason Peters on the left side would free up Todd Herremans to play guard or tackle on the right side.
1	25		Kareem Jackson	CB	Alabama
Absent a safe tight end pick here - watch out for Aaron Hernandez, by the way - look for the Ravens to address their cornerback position. Jackson is a physical player that hits big, is smooth on the field, and comes from Ozzie Newsome's Crimson Tide roots. Seems like a no-brainer to me.
1	26		Jerry Hughes	OLB	Texas Christian
Desperate for pass rush help, the Cardinals take a guy who happens to be one of my favorite prospects in Hughes. There's a chance Hughes is gone by this point, but the Cards need so much help at linebacker that they'd snap him up in a heartbeat were he to be available.
1	27		Charles Brown	OT	Southern Cal
Dallas is a tough team to get a read on. They need help at safety, but this year's crop of safeties is so deep that they should be able to find a starter there in the second or third round. Instead, they decide here to hedge their bets on new left tackle Doug Free, taking a solid citizen with solid talent in Brown.
1	28		Ryan Mathews	RB	Fresno State
This is another easy pick to make. If any of the draft's top three backs - Spiller, Best and Mathews - are available here, A.J. Smith is almost certain to snap him up. Mathews may be the best fit of the three, as he complements Darren Sproles very nicely.
1	29		Demaryius Thomas	WR	Georgia Tech
Sure, they traded for Braylon Edwards last season and Santonio Holmes last week, but neither is considered a long-term solution at the position. Thomas has big-time talent, could see the field quickly, and will be afforded time to develop a rapport with Mark Sanchez.
1	30		Dan Williams	DT	Tennessee
Minnesota really needs to address its porous secondary, particularly with Green Bay in the division, but Dan Williams is too much value to pass on here. Pat Williams isn't getting any younger, the team lacks depth behind third tackle Jimmy Kennedy, and this would solidify the interior of their defense for years.
1	31		Rodger Saffold	OT	Indiana
Charlie Johnson had a solid season at left tackle last season, but the presence of a certain Manning dude may have made him look better than he really was. Saffold is a solid pass protector with solid potential, allowing Johnson to slide to RT, or guard if they're comfortable with Adam Terry on the right side. The Colts must run the ball more effectively if they hope to win another championship with Manning.
1	32		Brian Price	DT	UCLA
The Saints were pretty average against the run last year, and it's pretty obvious that if there's one side of the ball they need to address, it's the defense. Price is great value here, good schematic fit, and would help the Saints defend the run better in a run-heavy division.
2	33		Everson Griffen	DE	Southern Cal
Steve Spagnuolo needs more talent on both sides of the ball. Griffen's a good scheme fit with huge upside.
2	34		Devin McCourty	CB	Rutgers
Good value pick at a premium need position, but the Lions still need a long-term answer at OT.
2	35		Vladimir Ducasse	OG	Massachusetts
Tampa Bay needs to fortify the talent around franchise QB Josh Freeman. This is a good start.
2	36		Taylor Mays	S	Southern Cal
Desperate for a playmaker at safety, Pioli takes the surest thing he can find. Mays is boom-or-bust.
2	37		Sean Weatherspoon	OLB	Missouri
Tremendous value selection for the Eagles at a position that's seen heavy renovation recently.
2	38		Colt McCoy	QB	Texas
Holmgren gets his long-term answer at QB with the requisite accuracy and intangibles.
2	39		Bruce Campbell	OT	Maryland
Imagine Al Davis' glee if he emerged from the first two rounds with Pierre-Paul and Campbell. Wow.
2	40		Terrence Cody	NT	Alabama
Jamal Williams was cut and went to Denver; the Chargers need a new nose tackle for their 3-4 scheme.
2	41		Tim Tebow	QB	Florida
He may not last this long, but it seems fairly clear that Tebow is the QB prospect of choice for Buffalo.
2	42		Golden Tate	WR	Notre Dame
Speaking of adding talent around Josh Freeman, Golden Tate does that, and brings value to this pick as well.
2	43		Aaron Hernandez	TE	Florida
Kyle Orton and/or Brady Quinn need more receiving talent now that B-Marsh is in Miami.
2	44		Eric Norwood	OLB	South Carolina
Belichick adds another 3-4 piece. The Patriots need pass rushers badly. Norwood fits the bill.
2	45		Brandon Spikes	ILB	Florida
Limited upside, but Spikes is the thumper that McDaniels needs to line up next to D.J. Williams inside.
2	46		Nate Allen	S	South Florida
Allen is a highly underrated prospect that protects the Giants against an end to Kenny Phillips' career.
2	47		Rob Gronkowski	TE	Arizona
Is a well-rounded blocker and underrated receiver that would flourish in New England's system.
2	48		Arrelious Benn	WR	Illinois
Talent is needed alongside Steve Smith, who no longer wants to be a No. 1 receiver.
2	49		Perrish Cox	CB	Oklahoma State
Still searching for that OT, Singletary again goes value, taking a physical DB that can play CB or FS.
2	50		Donald Butler	ILB	Washington
The Chiefs badly need more size and physicality inside; Butler has that capability.
2	51		Lamarr Houston	DT	Texas
Houston desperately needs difference-makers defensively; Houston has the talent to consistently disrupt.
2	52		Tyson Alualu	DE	California
Great scheme fit for Pittsburgh, and gives the team two long-term starters at end (Ziggy Hood, '09).
2	53		Dexter McCluster	RB	Mississippi
Kevin Faulk's role is under-appreciated, and he's getting up there in years. McCluster is the heir apparent.
2	54		Daryl Washington	OLB	Texas Christian
Outstanding value pick that would allow Rey Maualuga to move inside once Dhani Jones hangs it up.
2	55		Patrick Robinson	CB	Florida State
Asante Samuel has been a disappointment, and Sheldon Brown was moved. CB depth is a must.
2	56		Jared Veldheer	OT	Hillsdale
Ted Thompson isn't shy about taking projects at OT (a need area), and Veldheer's potential is significant.
2	57		Jimmy Graham	TE	Miami (FL)
Another high-upside U product to get the Ray Lewis treatment; Graham also fulfills a long-term need.
2	58		Jerome Murphy	CB	South Florida
Smooth, speedy, unheralded corner to compete with Greg Toler for a starting job opposite Rodgers-Cromartie.
2	59		Mardy Gilyard	WR	Cincinnati
Roy Williams has been a flop, and Dallas needs depth, playmaking ability and return skill. Gilyard works.
2	60		Jonathan Dwyer	RB	Georgia Tech
Dwyer has a Shaun Alexander vibe to his game, and would complement the diminutive Justin Forsett well.
2	61		Carlos Dunlap	DE	Florida
Rex Ryan thinks he can turn any mega-talented player into a stud. He'll have his work cut out for him here.
2	62		Chris Cook	CB	Virginia
CB depth is a must, and this is a kid that Minnesota's coaching staff is high on. Great scheme fit.
2	63		Geno Atkins	DT	Georgia
Larry Coyer has gotten away from T2 principles, but Atkins is too good a player to pass up here.
2	64		Morgan Burnett	S	Georgia Tech
Darren Sharper isn't getting any younger, and Burnett is a solid talent that they can groom to replace the vet.

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Tomorrow? Today’s Tuesday, right?

by jj24 on Apr 20, 2010 8:07 AM EDT reply actions

Yes. The draft is indeed Thursday and today is indeed Tuesday.

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by MattRichWarren on Apr 20, 2010 8:09 AM EDT up reply actions

Yeah, I had this originally scheduled to run Wednesday, but figured if I waited too long it’d get all fubar’d somehow. So, here it is this morning. The “tomorrow” has been fixed.

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by Brian Galliford on Apr 20, 2010 8:13 AM EDT up reply actions

Davis and Tebow. That gets you an A.

I’m not sure that Tebow will actually last that long, but it is a deffinate possibility.

Good draft altogether, no out of left feild picks. Al logical, and seemingly informed picks (I say seemingly because it’s impossible for anyone to be well informed on every pick this draft). All in all a good draft!

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by CanadianBillsFan on Apr 20, 2010 8:08 AM EDT reply actions

Well, JPP to the Raiders is out of left field, but they’re the Raiders.

So what are the chances for an Avalanche vs. Sabres finals, eh?
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by UZ on Apr 20, 2010 8:09 AM EDT up reply actions

It’s only slightly out of left feild though, and not at all surprising because it is the Raiders. Thats why i let it slide. It honestly wouldn’t surprise me at all to see it happening.

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by CanadianBillsFan on Apr 20, 2010 8:16 AM EDT up reply actions

that wouldnt shock anyone

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by Patssuck456 on Apr 20, 2010 10:43 AM EDT up reply actions

That'd be the biigest garbage draft of the last decade

If bills drive thinks drafting the 4th best tackle and 5-6th best qb instead of the best qb and suppling him with the best players available on offense then this regime isn’t any better then the last and we’ll be doomEd to roaming the darkness of the afc east basement for another 10 years

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by J. Mackin on Apr 20, 2010 1:00 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions

I meant best offensive players available when we draft rounds 2-4

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by J. Mackin on Apr 20, 2010 1:06 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions

That’d be the biigest garbage draft of the last decade

woah. slow down. 2006?

suppling

“make more flexible.”

that can’t be what you meant…

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by JPH on Apr 20, 2010 1:07 PM EDT up reply actions

Well outside of Williams it was pretty bad…if it’s not the champ it’d be the number 1 contender

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by J. Mackin on Apr 20, 2010 1:51 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions

2005 was way worse. The worst draft in Bills history worse.

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by MattRichWarren on Apr 21, 2010 4:58 PM EDT up reply actions

Why is it so difficult to believe that the 4th best tackle might be a better pick for the team than the second best QB or the best RB or the best OLB?

Just because they are ranked forth bast at their position does not mean that we should skip over them!

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by CanadianBillsFan on Apr 20, 2010 1:48 PM EDT up reply actions

Why would u skip a player who’s best at the position/face of the franchise and it’s a position of equal if not greater need to take someone on inferior quality? Makes No sense to me

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by J. Mackin on Apr 20, 2010 2:12 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions

Why would u skip a player who’s best at the position/face of the franchise and it’s a position of equal if not greater need to take someone on inferior quality? Makes No sense to me

For the zillionth time, it’s because he’s not of inferior quality. It’s completely possible for there to be 4 tackles who are better than the best quarterback. It’s possible for there to be 5. Or 10. Is it that hard for you to accept that there are two or three DT’s who are better than the top wide receiver in the draft? I don’t understand how this is a difficult concept to understand.

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by JPH on Apr 20, 2010 3:43 PM EDT up reply actions

People the saints won the superbowl with an elite qb and a 4th round Lt. If okung was there I’d still say clausens the pick. The rams are meatheads for passing on him for an injury prone qb. The top 3 prospects in the draft are suh berry and clausen hands down and clausen will sure up the position for 10 years…I don’t know how that’s a bad thing

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by J. Mackin on Apr 20, 2010 5:52 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions

People the saints won the superbowl with an elite qb and a 4th round Lt.

Totally. In the same vein, the cards went to the super bowl with Mike Gandy. You don’t need a good line to be good. It sure helps though.

The top 3 prospects in the draft are suh berry and clausen hands down

Don’t act like that’s some sort of incontrovertible fact. That’s your opinion, fine, but it’s hands down? Because a lot of hands would go up if you tried to tell a roomful of NFL GM’s that, and they probably have better information than you do.

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by JPH on Apr 20, 2010 7:53 PM EDT up reply actions

Yes, nothing is more annoying

than someone criticizing someone as the (blank) best at their position, as if that means something. There are years when there are no good players at a given position, including quarterback (not saying that about this year). There are years when there are scores.

I really wish people would stop.

by TNBillfan on Apr 20, 2010 2:51 PM EDT up reply actions

That works

I would be happy as hell if it played out like this, but I doubt Tebow will be available at 41.

by Kelly to Reed Touchdown!! on Apr 20, 2010 8:08 AM EDT reply actions

Just for clarification – you think this is what Buffalo is going to do not what you would do.

Poor Dan Williams in this mock.

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by MattRichWarren on Apr 20, 2010 8:10 AM EDT reply actions

Yes, this is my official prediction. I plan on being at least 50% wrong. :)

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by Brian Galliford on Apr 20, 2010 8:13 AM EDT up reply actions

I see it happening, but I see them making a play to ensure Tebow wears that charging buffalo.

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by TheAfghanTwilight on Apr 20, 2010 10:11 AM EDT up reply actions

He did drop pretty far. But no need to change to “Williams Wall” name lol

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by bflo on Apr 20, 2010 9:39 AM EDT up reply actions

I found it mildly amusing that he falls to Minnesota. Another Williams at DT for them!

by TheAfghanTwilight on Apr 20, 2010 10:10 AM EDT up reply actions

Ah, so I’m not the only one to stick Bulaga with the Chiefs at 5!

So what are the chances for an Avalanche vs. Sabres finals, eh?
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by UZ on Apr 20, 2010 8:14 AM EDT reply actions

Definitely not. I’ve been on that bandwagon since February. Pioli’s such a weird drafter.

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by Brian Galliford on Apr 20, 2010 8:16 AM EDT up reply actions

If weird = good

by quantumuprising on Apr 20, 2010 8:35 AM EDT up reply actions

I don’t know about that. Glenn Dorsey has seemed kind of lost in their 3-4.

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by CanadianBillsFan on Apr 20, 2010 8:39 AM EDT up reply actions

Yeah, you know what, you’re right. The jets and their fantastic turnaround and the patriots and their three championships owe nothing to pioli because glenn dorsey ( a pick pioli had nothing to do with – he was still with new england then) hasn’t panned out because he’s at the wrong technique.

by quantumuprising on Apr 20, 2010 9:05 AM EDT up reply actions

Picking up on your sarcasm.

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by Jon Harrington on Apr 20, 2010 9:08 AM EDT up reply actions

See I thought that Pioli was there when they drafted Dorsey (who is entirely wrong for the 3-4). Sarcasm noticed and appriciaed though.

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by CanadianBillsFan on Apr 20, 2010 9:27 AM EDT up reply actions

I’m just saying that before you comment on something, checking out the facts might help. Dorsey was drafted by Herm Edwards and Co, who had him in a 4-3. Haley was the one that made the switch to the 3-4. By the way, in his rookie campaign, from the inside d-line, he had more tackles than stroud.

by quantumuprising on Apr 20, 2010 10:06 AM EDT up reply actions

why are you being sarcastic quantum?

Pioli has had only one draft as a GM and while you usually have to wait 3 years to judge a draft after one year it looks like his first attempt in charge stunk.

pick 3 – Tyson Jackson DE – minimal impact
pick 67 – Alex Magee DE – no impact
pick 102 – Donald Washington CB – no impact
pick 139 – Colin Brown T – no impact
pick 175 – Quinten Lawrence WR – only helped on special teams
pick 212 – Javarris Williams RB – was cut and resigned and cut and resigned
pick 237 – Jake O’Connell TE – minimal impact
pick 256 – Ryan Succop P – finally an impact guy and hes a FREAKING PUNTER

When are people going to learn that we keep saying the Pats are such a great organization and yet members keep leaving – Weiss, Crennell, Pioli, McDaniels, Mangini, Samuel, Cassel, Branch, and they keep on chugging along. Its all because of Bellichick. Its not a knock on the guys who have helped, they are all good football guys in their own way – they are in the NFL after all. But Pioli’s success in New England is like saying Romeo Crennell is a good head coach because he was a good assistant in New England. New England is Bellichick’s show. Kansas City is Pioli’s and his first draft had no impact at all on his team in its first year except for a 7th round punter. Considering how much impact most teams get thats not a good start.

I just dont see the reason for sarcasm.

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by poz on Apr 20, 2010 11:58 AM EDT up reply actions

Succop was their kicker, not their punter.

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by Brian Galliford on Apr 20, 2010 12:01 PM EDT up reply actions

good catch

the point is he uses his feet and he was their only impact guy

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by poz on Apr 20, 2010 12:05 PM EDT up reply actions

and i see you provided the same list as me below haha

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by poz on Apr 20, 2010 12:12 PM EDT up reply actions

so, refuting a guy’s argument about the quality of a person as a drafter using a player that was drafted before he was part of the organization isn’t a good time for sarcasm?

by quantumuprising on Apr 20, 2010 1:22 PM EDT up reply actions

just pointing out

that your defense of Pioli as a guy you would want drafting for you could just as easily generate a sarcastic response, as could your using his different role in New England to judge him in his new role in Kansas City.

I just dont think your opinion on Pioli is fool proof enough to warrant sarcasm at those who try to refute it.

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by poz on Apr 20, 2010 1:34 PM EDT up reply actions

He didn’t draft Glenn Dorsey. He did, however, draft Tyson Jackson.

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by Brian Galliford on Apr 20, 2010 10:09 AM EDT up reply actions

I didn’t say bad, did I? Just weird.

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by Brian Galliford on Apr 20, 2010 10:09 AM EDT up reply actions

i was just saying if you consider him weird, i’d be more than happy to have a weird drafter like him.

by quantumuprising on Apr 20, 2010 10:43 AM EDT up reply actions

Well, just about every other draft has him taking Berry and a Chiefs fan actually got mad at me for having Bulaga as my pick for them at MtD!

So what are the chances for an Avalanche vs. Sabres finals, eh?
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by UZ on Apr 20, 2010 8:35 AM EDT up reply actions

I understand that Tyson Jackson was taken probably 15 spots too high last year, but can you give me another example of why you’d call him a “weird drafter”? I don’t know if I see the track record to substantiate that label.

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by PozDispenser on Apr 20, 2010 8:53 AM EDT up reply actions

Keep in mind that he’s only ever run one draft completely. All that New England stuff is about as relevant as Buddy Nix’s time in San Diego.

Tyson Jackson
Alex Magee
Donald Washington
Colin Brown
Quinten Lawrence
Javarris Williams
Jake O’Connell
Ryan Succop

Aside from Succop, the Chiefs got absolutely ZILCH out of that draft class a year ago, and none of those players are particularly high-upside.

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by Brian Galliford on Apr 20, 2010 10:11 AM EDT up reply actions

I agree, I read an article saying how Pioli, kind of rode Belichicks lead and isnt nearly as qualified as most thought, I think I agree.

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by SouthBuffaloNDgrad on Apr 20, 2010 11:33 AM EDT up reply actions

hoping

that Buddy Nix’s time in San Diego is pretty relevant…

by dav630 on Apr 20, 2010 11:39 AM EDT up reply actions

Solid

at the end of the day we come out with a highly talented LT and a new face for the franchise.

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by ausbillsfan on Apr 20, 2010 8:19 AM EDT reply actions

good looking draft

I don’t think we take a tackle unless Trent Williams makes it to us (I think its a no brainer the other two won’t be there). Morgan is our #9 if we can’t nab Williams.

The Tebow pick is solid; I see us trading up to get him though.

by Buffalo Mo on Apr 20, 2010 8:23 AM EDT via mobile reply actions

call it smoke, mirrors, "homer news" whatever

the press down here in FL are still touting Tebow to JAX if he’s there at 10 in a Brandon-esque marketing move/football decision(in that order).
As you so aptly point out the regime (as well as the franchise) is on thin ice. They are truly the ones who need “fannies in the seats”.

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by fansince60 on Apr 20, 2010 8:23 AM EDT reply actions

Tebonics?

He may not last this long, but it seems fairly clear that Tebow is the QB prospect of choice for Buffalo

Says who? and why? I’ve heard a lot of rumors about the Bills taking him, but nothing that would suggest he’s the prospect they actually want over others…particularly Clausen

Also-I think Davis is a reach at 9 with the Williams and Clausen available. Part of the reason we aren’t hearing much about Davis at OBD may be because his attitude is as such that they don’t want/need the headache it may present.

by FrankL on Apr 20, 2010 8:44 AM EDT reply actions

Actually several places have the Bills very high on Tebow and not high on Clausen. Michael Lombardi said it, for one.

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by MattRichWarren on Apr 20, 2010 9:26 AM EDT up reply actions

That and the fact that Tebow may be the only QB in this class that fits the Nix mold (arm strength, leadership, experience) and the Gailey mold (athleticism) simultaneously.

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by Brian Galliford on Apr 20, 2010 10:12 AM EDT up reply actions

I need this to happen. I haven’t “needed” my favorite team to make a player pick in ages, but I really need to see this kid in town. I’m ready for disappointment either in missing out or him not panning out as many of us hope he will.

by TheAfghanTwilight on Apr 20, 2010 10:14 AM EDT up reply actions

im with you.

that’s my exact sentiment.

...so I guess now I root for chan gailey...

by JPH on Apr 20, 2010 10:52 AM EDT up reply actions

You don’t think Colt McCoy fits that dual mold?

by quantumuprising on Apr 20, 2010 10:44 AM EDT up reply actions

I would be ecstatic with this draft if you substituted Colt for Timmy in the second. Although I bet both will be gone by 41.

by #1 pick in '11 on Apr 20, 2010 10:47 AM EDT up reply actions

Colt was off the board when Buffalo picked anyway.

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by Brian Galliford on Apr 20, 2010 10:51 AM EDT up reply actions

You like McCoy more than Tebow? I’ll give you points for orginality, but I must say I haven’t heard much great about him here.

by TheAfghanTwilight on Apr 20, 2010 11:20 AM EDT up reply actions

I’d love me some Colt McCoy. Like Tebow, he’s a winner and dedicated to being the best. JP had a great arm, Rob Johnson had a great arm, Todd Collins had a great arm. If we came away with a franchise tackle and either Colt or Tim, I’d be 100% satisfied.

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by fansince83 on Apr 20, 2010 11:33 AM EDT up reply actions

same here

Colt McCoy is the real deal. I like Tebow too.

Either of these QBs + franchise tackle…….don’t care how Nix drafts the rest of the way it’d still be a good draft for me =)

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by moncheri on Apr 20, 2010 12:47 PM EDT up reply actions

Wait a minute. Todd Collins had a great arm? I don’t recall anything like that. I seem to remember thinking and or hearing that the team’s game would have to change now that their QB didn’t have the ability to go downfield as well as Kelly.

by TheAfghanTwilight on Apr 20, 2010 2:44 PM EDT up reply actions

I am more impressed with McCoy’s arm (mechanics/strength/accuracy) than I am with Tebow’s. I just can’t look past the whole changing-mechanics-2-months-before-the-draft thing. His throwing motion has been ingrained since probably junior high, now in less than a year he is going to magically lose that muscle memory? As soon as he gets pressured, or really needs to make a big throw he will revert back to his old motion, just my 2 cents though.

As a recent Pitt grad I got a chance to watch Anthony Davis vs Pitt’s Defense (led NCAA in sacks last year) Davis didn’t give up any sacks and Pitt as a whole only had 3 sacks(2 by DTs and 1 by LB). Granted this was only the 2nd time I really watched him closely but I came away impressed.

by #1 pick in '11 on Apr 20, 2010 3:22 PM EDT up reply actions

But is it absolutely imperative for Tebow to change his throwing motion to be successful in the NFL? What if he just does what he does so well that defenders have a hard time taking advantage of it? I don’t think that his game needs to be completely overhauled for him to find success.

by TheAfghanTwilight on Apr 20, 2010 3:51 PM EDT up reply actions

To your first question, I would say yes. To your second question: I would be very happy, because I’m a way bigger Bills fan than Tebow hater. I don’t think his game needs a complete overhaul, but I do think it needs a major overhaul (at QB).

by #1 pick in '11 on Apr 20, 2010 4:22 PM EDT up reply actions

No, because I don’t think he has the requisite arm strength to excel in Buffalo. He’ll be a great pick for a dome team. I don’t get Cleveland’s interest at all.

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by Brian Galliford on Apr 20, 2010 10:51 AM EDT up reply actions

If Jimmy Clausen is on the board

And they pass on him to take the 4th best LT…

I will not be happy.

(And from what I’m reading, looks like I won’t be happy)

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by Michael_Necci on Apr 20, 2010 8:45 AM EDT reply actions

Why not? Claussen may be a franchise QB. but I’m not sold on that, and I don’t think that Nix is either. So if the 4th best OT is a better talent that the second best QB, which is quite possibly true, why is it unacceptable to selecte the OT?

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by CanadianBillsFan on Apr 20, 2010 8:48 AM EDT up reply actions

I’d rather have the 2nd best QB (1st QB on Kiper’s Board) then the 4th best anything at any other position.

Do I really need to explain that we need a QB? One that is pin point accurate? One that excelled on a college team in a pro style offense? QB is the most important position on this team. And the fact that we haven’t had one here since 1996 (a good one) makes me believe that drafting a Top Ten QB is way more important then getting Anthony Davis. Getting a QB like Clausen, who can come in and potentially start from Day 1 is HUGE. (i.e. Matt Ryan, Flacco, Sanchez, Stafford etc) Clausen can be just as good as them. Take Clausen @ 9, and get your LT @ 41 or trade back in RD 1 and grab Bruce Campbell.

This is my feeling anyway…

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by Michael_Necci on Apr 20, 2010 9:01 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs

If they feel Clausen is good enough to start, they’ll draft him. If they don’t, they won’t. Either way I’ll give Nix/Gaily the benefit of the doubt.

But everyone needs to get off this whole “You can’t draft the 4th best at a position, while the second best is available…” kick. Positional ratings don’t matter, what matters is how players rate out overall.

by aquias on Apr 20, 2010 9:07 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs

I’d rather have the 2nd best QB (1st QB on Kiper’s Board) then the 4th best anything at any other position.

Please, folks, stop generalizing that way. If you think Clausen is better than Davis, fine, but the 2nd best QB won’t always be better than the 4th best OT.

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by Brian Galliford on Apr 20, 2010 10:13 AM EDT up reply actions

It’s like trying to compare apples to kinibler pins in a flux capacitor.

by TheAfghanTwilight on Apr 20, 2010 10:19 AM EDT up reply actions

What’s an apple?

by jj24 on Apr 20, 2010 11:09 AM EDT up reply actions

It’s incomparable.

by TheAfghanTwilight on Apr 20, 2010 11:18 AM EDT up reply actions

It was an attempt at humor, with the apple being the only thing you mentioned that I can explain.

by jj24 on Apr 20, 2010 11:25 AM EDT up reply actions

I know. I was playing up the apple as though it were the most glorious of things.

by TheAfghanTwilight on Apr 20, 2010 11:57 AM EDT up reply actions

It's funny...

Whenever you comment, I actually picture Dwight Schrutt as the one doing it. It’s especially fitting for that whole conversation. JJ24, you played the role of Jim Halpert nicely there, haha.

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I could only hope to be Dwight. Imagine finding such passion and commitment in a low-level job!

by TheAfghanTwilight on Apr 20, 2010 2:42 PM EDT up reply actions

Oh! ;)

by jj24 on Apr 20, 2010 5:29 PM EDT up reply actions

I don’t want to speak for the dude but I think that’s what he meant. I personally don’t think you could put ant tackle on a scale with what clausen would bring to a team.

Starting a movement to draft Jimmy Clausen in april, he'll be the 2nd coming of Kelly, the saviour of the Bills

by J. Mackin on Apr 20, 2010 5:59 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions

Again....wtf does it matter where a guy is ranked in relation to others in his postion????

There is not an equal/constant amt. of talent available at any position in any given year. Who was the 4th best qb in the 1984 draft?

by TNBillfan on Apr 20, 2010 4:00 PM EDT up reply actions

Thurman was the 8th RB taken in the 1988 draft I believe : )

by #1 pick in '11 on Apr 20, 2010 4:23 PM EDT up reply actions

Just can't see

Tebow falling to us w/ the 41st pick. I honestly think he’ll be a goner by then. If they are serious about taking Tebow as our future franchise QB, (as I hope they are), I think they’ll need to move out of 41 on order to accomplish the Tebow pick.

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by Pocono Bob on Apr 20, 2010 8:47 AM EDT reply actions

You guys do realize I said that Tebow probably wouldn’t fall that far, right? :)

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by Brian Galliford on Apr 20, 2010 10:13 AM EDT up reply actions

I’m fully convinced the Pats take him. Either way, McCluster or Tebow on that team is rather scary.

by TheAfghanTwilight on Apr 20, 2010 10:20 AM EDT up reply actions

But who takes him before #41?

I DEFINITELY could see the Jags try to move ahead to get him but who else? I don’t think the Jags will use #10 on him and I don’t think the Pats would dare use their first pick, nor do I see the Browns taking him at #39. It would have to be one hell of an offer to get anyone to move out of that #25-#40 range, as that seems to be the most loaded, value-wise.

by TNBillfan on Apr 20, 2010 4:04 PM EDT up reply actions

I agree. I think the biggest threat to Tebow being available with the 41st pick is Buffalo finding a way to draft him before then.

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by kaisertown on Apr 20, 2010 4:16 PM EDT up reply actions

haha, buffalo always is it’s own worst enemy…

by #1 pick in '11 on Apr 20, 2010 4:24 PM EDT up reply actions

Denver is a team who could move up ahead of us to pick him. McDaniels has the power there and is allegedly in love with Tebow. They have multiple 2nd round picks and plenty of other picks to use as ammo.

Additionally, I wouldn’t be surprised if Minnesota goes QB at #30. Childress has the power there, and he knows they’re screwed at QB when/if Favre retires.

by Jeff Winters on Apr 20, 2010 5:06 PM EDT up reply actions

Trade down for Davis?

With Davis falling out of favour (reportedly) because of poor interviews, work ethic and bad athletic times (e.g. 5.36 40 time), it seems like a huge reach at 9…
Jax, Denver & Miami have all taken LTs early in the draft in the last 3 years, so I would rather a trade down with any of them (before SF takes Davis) if we’re targetting any OT after the top 3.

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by shrubz on Apr 20, 2010 8:52 AM EDT reply actions

I guarantee that Davis won’t get past Mike Singletary at pick 13.

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by Brian Galliford on Apr 20, 2010 10:14 AM EDT up reply actions

Nobody gets past Mike Singletary!

by TheAfghanTwilight on Apr 20, 2010 10:22 AM EDT up reply actions 2 recs

Rec'd

I rarely laugh at the jokes on this message board, but I wasn’t expecting that while scrolling.

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by BillsfanDan on Apr 20, 2010 6:53 PM EDT up reply actions

Well, at least you didn't guarantee the Bills make the playoffs......Not sure Mike S. likes lazy head cases.

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by Joe P. on Apr 20, 2010 10:46 AM EDT up reply actions

He did OK with Vernon Davis, didn’t he?

He needs an OT badly.

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by Brian Galliford on Apr 20, 2010 10:51 AM EDT up reply actions

Davis was a prima dona....not lazy.

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by Joe P. on Apr 20, 2010 11:29 AM EDT up reply actions

He was both, actually, just like Anthony Davis is both.

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by Brian Galliford on Apr 20, 2010 11:41 AM EDT up reply actions

OK...I will give you that, but Mike S. didn't draft Vernon Davis.

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by Joe P. on Apr 20, 2010 4:41 PM EDT up reply actions

Nope, but he saw his talent. Just like Singletary saw Michael Crabtree’s talent.

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by Brian Galliford on Apr 20, 2010 6:26 PM EDT up reply actions

Crabtree was just a greedy prima dona, not lazy.

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by Joe P. on Apr 20, 2010 7:56 PM EDT up reply actions

Point is, he took the character risk because he recognized the talent. And that was just a WR. This is an OT that blocks nasty. Singletary will love this guy.

If SF ends up with Davis at 13 and Clausen at 17, my head might explode. :)

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by Brian Galliford on Apr 20, 2010 8:45 PM EDT up reply actions

Hahahha...especially if the Bills end up with Bulaga and Tebow?

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by Joe P. on Apr 20, 2010 9:40 PM EDT up reply actions

I would not be upset with Bulaga and Tebow, contrary to popular opinion. Good players.

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by Brian Galliford on Apr 20, 2010 10:12 PM EDT up reply actions

Takes crazy

to understand crazy LOL

by syrbillsfan on Apr 20, 2010 10:53 AM EDT up reply actions

100% Agree...

Thats why a trade down as far as Miami’s pick would be ideal

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by shrubz on Apr 20, 2010 11:17 AM EDT up reply actions

I love how an OT can fall because of a slow 40 time. The guy spends most of his time backpedalling! The combine has become a joke in terms of the physical measurements. Personally, I love me some sprint action, but I find its relevance in player analysis minimal.

by TheAfghanTwilight on Apr 20, 2010 10:22 AM EDT up reply actions

Its more the lack of preparation/conditioning that I believe is causing the drop in value

He showed up out of shape, only put up 21 bench reps (a sign of conditioning rather than strength), and ran extremely slowly…much slower than anyone expected.

He was pretty bad at the start of the college season, but picked it up closer to the end of the year…this seems like a Shaquille O’Neal (sorry for the cross-sport reference), “I’ll get into shape as I play” type of player…not what I would want out of a #9 pick.

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by shrubz on Apr 20, 2010 11:23 AM EDT up reply actions

Do they test 5 yard backpeddal times for O-Linemen?

;-)

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by Bogeyman on Apr 20, 2010 3:48 PM EDT up reply actions

Pretty Good mock draft

Not sure about the Bills taking Davis first, though, since his stock has been dropping – I do like Tebow in 2nd round.
I would be shocked if Weatherspoon and Taylor Mays drop to the 2nd round, though, that would be a steal for whoever takes them.
Classen to the Jags – I don’t see that, since Garrard did go to the Pro Bowl a few years ago. I have no idea where Claussen is going.
Over all, a lot of the picks make sense.

by BuffaloWhiner on Apr 20, 2010 8:53 AM EDT reply actions

Don’t pay the “stock dropping” business any mind. Nix himself has said stock doesn’t drop. If he likes Davis – and if he’s watched him play football, there’s a good chance he likes him at least a little – then he’ll take him.

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by Brian Galliford on Apr 20, 2010 10:14 AM EDT up reply actions

Don’t you think stock can drop b/c of poor interviews?

A player can get by on athletic talent in college much better than in the NFL. Franchise players need to be 110% focused on improving and preparing for their opponents, and this kind of focus and football IQ can’t be seen on tape.

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by shrubz on Apr 20, 2010 11:26 AM EDT up reply actions

Isn’t that part of the reason the Bills passed on Oher last year?

by Pistol on Apr 20, 2010 11:28 AM EDT up reply actions

From what I’ve been told, yes.

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by Brian Galliford on Apr 20, 2010 11:42 AM EDT up reply actions

I do, but I also think teams weigh interviews differently. The previous regime needed good interviews. I’m not sure the same applies to Nix; or, rather, I’ll wait to see if the same applies before writing off poor interviewees.

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by Brian Galliford on Apr 20, 2010 11:42 AM EDT up reply actions

I don’t see that, since Garrard did go to the Pro Bowl a few years ago.

But since Marshawn went 2 years ago, had a down year last, many want to dump him for peanuts… Go figure….

by Cinga on Apr 20, 2010 10:36 AM EDT up reply actions

I am happy with either Clausen or Tebow, and we will land one of them I am pretty sure. Either way, we can only move up from last season. Now the trick will be surviving the AFC East.

by RBbills on Apr 20, 2010 9:09 AM EDT reply actions

Oh, and rec'd 'em, I nearly killed 'em!

Good work as always, Brian. I like the Davis pick in tandem with Tebow.

by RBbills on Apr 20, 2010 9:11 AM EDT up reply actions

I agree in principle. however, with an uncertain situation at qb and severe talent lacking at several positions, and with the change in defense, i wouldn’t be so sure that we can “only move up” from last season.

by quantumuprising on Apr 20, 2010 10:07 AM EDT up reply actions

I like the picks

But I don’t think it’s “fairly obvious Tebow is the QB of choice in Buffalo.” That means you are taking everything Nix/Gailey say at face value, which may or may not be right but it’s likely anything they have said isn’t an indication of anything they might necessarily do (just look at the coaching search). In fact, I don’t think we can listen to anything GM’s & coaches have to say in the 3 months leading up to the draft. .

by jmkney on Apr 20, 2010 9:24 AM EDT reply actions

I haven’t heard Nix or Gailey say too much about Tebow and Clausen, actually.

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by Brian Galliford on Apr 20, 2010 10:15 AM EDT up reply actions

Suppose Washington takes Trent Williams—as some reports indicate will happen—instead of Okung. Then assume the report about KC desperately wanting to trade down is true as well. Would you be willing to give something along the lines of a 3rd this year and a 4th next year to move up to #5 to nab Okung?

by Jeff Winters on Apr 20, 2010 9:26 AM EDT reply actions

hell yea

prob costs more though

by jmkney on Apr 20, 2010 9:37 AM EDT up reply actions

actually no i want the 3rd

by jmkney on Apr 20, 2010 9:38 AM EDT up reply actions

It would...

…by the draft chart cost next years 3rd to be close to value. Even then it’s actually a bit low.

5 draft spot = 1700
9 draft spot = 1350
73 draft spot = 225
4th next year, gets devalued to a fifth = 37.5 (If we drafted in the same spot)

1612.5

While KC could swing it if they were desperate enough to move. They’d likely demand our third next year which would bring the math to 1659 (again, devalue the third round pick to a fourth). Which is much closer to ‘fair market value’

by aquias on Apr 20, 2010 9:44 AM EDT up reply actions

For reference

Here’s the chart

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/draft06/news/story?id=2410670

by aquias on Apr 20, 2010 9:45 AM EDT up reply actions

And here’s a better one, not based on Johnson’s Cowboy model from the early 90s that’s outdated now (and wasn’t based on player value, just based on what teams had done historically…. this has changed)

http://cdn2.sbnation.com/imported_assets/428317/picture1-1.png

This ties out to recent drafts much, much better than the one most people use.

by Pistol on Apr 20, 2010 10:32 AM EDT up reply actions

In my opinion, the draft chart goes out the window when a team is desperate to move out of their slot. Because of the huge money attached to unproven players, there have been too many seemingly lopsided draft day trades recently which demonstrate the irrelevance of the chart.

by Jeff Winters on Apr 20, 2010 10:36 AM EDT up reply actions

In the top 10 I agree. After that money isn’t too different, and overall pretty cheap.

by Pistol on Apr 20, 2010 11:29 AM EDT up reply actions

No

Davis is better than Okung anyway… if he didn’t have “issues” there would be no discussion of who the best tackle in the draft is. Our draft picks are more valuable than the difference between Davis and Okung.

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by ForeignArrow on Apr 20, 2010 10:14 AM EDT up reply actions

Nope. Too much money for an overrated player at too high a compensatory cost.

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by Brian Galliford on Apr 20, 2010 10:15 AM EDT up reply actions

That looks like a pretty realistic draft Brian. With Clausen going to the Jags, would you see them dumping Garrard then? – No I dont want him in Buffalo lol. Just wondering. Or would they have Clausen sit behind him?

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by bflo on Apr 20, 2010 9:42 AM EDT reply actions

No, I don’t think they’d dump Garrard.

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by Brian Galliford on Apr 20, 2010 10:16 AM EDT up reply actions

Nice try Brian….

I think Morgan and Tebow (trade up).

We got the tools, We got the talent

by J2 on Apr 20, 2010 9:44 AM EDT reply actions

And I’ll nice try right back atcha.

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by Brian Galliford on Apr 20, 2010 10:16 AM EDT up reply actions

lol – well played sir.

we’ll see how she goes – i’m getting excited

We got the tools, We got the talent

by J2 on Apr 20, 2010 10:24 AM EDT up reply actions

Im excited too. I cant wait for the draft…

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by bflo on Apr 20, 2010 10:34 AM EDT up reply actions

It's no wonder NFL fans are always angry after the draft

The collective excitement for the drawing of names has no other outlet. There’s no other possible way to vent all of this excitement pent up for what usually is an anticlimax to top them all :)

Get your batteries ready to toss!

by syrbillsfan on Apr 20, 2010 10:49 AM EDT up reply actions

you know..

after all the speculation of Tebow to Buffalo its going to be kind of anti-climatic if we pass and the patriots take him with one of their second rounders.

but hey. theres always Campbell right?

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by ausbillsfan on Apr 20, 2010 10:02 AM EDT reply actions

That team has far too many 2nd-round picks for any of us Bills fans to feel comfort this weekend.

by TheAfghanTwilight on Apr 20, 2010 10:24 AM EDT up reply actions

Ugh…exactly……

by Moiax on Apr 20, 2010 10:28 AM EDT up reply actions

If the Pats pick Tebow in the 2nd

It’ll be because the Bills have passed on him. They don’t make their first 2nd round selection until #44….

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by Kurupt on Apr 20, 2010 11:22 AM EDT up reply actions

but with so many picks...

…it’d be trivial for them to move up. Not that that’s belicheckian…

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by JPH on Apr 20, 2010 11:29 AM EDT up reply actions

IMO the Pats have way too many needs

to take a luxury player like Tebow, when they have Brady. I know people say Belichek likes him, but the Pats need youth and depth at a lot of positions.

by TNBillfan on Apr 20, 2010 4:14 PM EDT up reply actions

tebow...maybe?

I like tebow! no matter what happens thoughout thiis process i just think the bills should sit pat.We have way too many needs to start jumping around the board.this a very important draft in recent memory.I really jus think if they value that fact then there is no way in hell we are in a position to give away any picks,1st rd. or 7th rd. I dont think davis has value @ 9,with all the pass rushing talent,with dan williams ijust dont see it but you never know.I like either brandon graham or dan williams if the board falls your way.

by vblue8 on Apr 20, 2010 10:09 AM EDT reply actions

Of Course

I disagree with a bunch of the other picks (although it’s funny that it takes a Bills blogger to put together a coherent mock) but I love the Bills first 2 picks. Davis is my favorite (and, no doubt, the best) tackle in the draft and I’m glad he has maturity issues because it drops the most talented tackle into our laps. Tebow is also my favorite QB in this draft and I’ll keep my fingers crossed the Vikes or the Browns don’t go for him. I’ve had Davis and Tebow as my 1-2 punch for a long time but I don’t wanna jinx it.

Side Note: if we do draft Tebow, does that mean if or when he plays that we flip the polarity of our tackles to protect his blind-side? Or do we leave it as is?

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by ForeignArrow on Apr 20, 2010 10:13 AM EDT reply actions

No, there won’t be any flipping of the tackles to protect his blind side. The talents and skills of LT/RT doesn’t change when you have a lefty at QB, you just want a slightly more athletic RT than you might have with a righty for pass pro purposes. The RT still needs to be a bigger dude capable of handling bigger players playing on the strong side of the alignment.

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by Brian Galliford on Apr 20, 2010 10:18 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs

Oh Yeah

and if Tebow goes before 41, where do you think that’d be (without trade speculation)? Are there any other teams as high on him picking before us?

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by ForeignArrow on Apr 20, 2010 10:20 AM EDT up reply actions

I honestly have no idea. I’d imagine a lot of coaches are high on Tebow, and a lot of scouts aren’t. All it takes is one influential coach to make the decision, and that could be a lot of places.

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by Brian Galliford on Apr 20, 2010 10:22 AM EDT up reply actions

That’s exactly why teams like Minnesota and Denver—with a trade up—seem to be the most logical spots.

by Jeff Winters on Apr 20, 2010 10:27 AM EDT up reply actions

Well that narrows it down, lol

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by ForeignArrow on Apr 20, 2010 10:41 AM EDT up reply actions

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by Brian Galliford on Apr 20, 2010 10:53 AM EDT up reply actions

Brian, this is one of the most concise explanations on how to handle lines with lefties.

by TheAfghanTwilight on Apr 20, 2010 10:29 AM EDT up reply actions

Wouldn’t the strength of the alignment also flip with a lefty though? I also think I might be confused, but im not sure.

by BillsfanDan on Apr 20, 2010 7:00 PM EDT up reply actions

Good job Brian

This is probably the most realistic draft I’ve seen. In particular Jahvid Best and Saffold going in round 1. Nobody else I’ve seen has Best in the 1st and I think that’s a lock. I would be happy if it played out this way, even though I’d rather have Clausen and Norwood 1 and 2. What I find scary is if this is the way it plays out then New England just got a ton of talent.

by NickinRoc on Apr 20, 2010 10:13 AM EDT reply actions

Brian...

Fantastic work. This is one of the most professionally-presented mock drafts i’ve seen this year- anywhere.

by TheAfghanTwilight on Apr 20, 2010 10:26 AM EDT reply actions

Tebow

Does anyone else think of the “T-Bone” Seinfeld episode every time Tebow’s name comes up?

by syrbillsfan on Apr 20, 2010 10:31 AM EDT reply actions

One thing you don't want in the draft is

for your team to fall in love with a player and grab him way over slot/overpay to move up and get him. But that’s exactly where I am on this Tebow thing. I’m fine with them taking him at 9. I’ve lost my head!

...so I guess now I root for chan gailey...

by JPH on Apr 20, 2010 10:54 AM EDT reply actions

Yeah, you definitely need to find your head.

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by Brian Galliford on Apr 20, 2010 10:56 AM EDT up reply actions

TWSS

by TheAfghanTwilight on Apr 20, 2010 11:21 AM EDT up reply actions

nice draft I like it.

I would call that a successful day.

VERY NITPICKY COMMENT AHEAD and totally unrelated to post content: Isn’t the correct term “bated breath?” Not “baited breath.”

by Mindbender14 on Apr 20, 2010 11:00 AM EDT reply actions

It’s tough to get air on a hook.

by Pistol on Apr 20, 2010 11:31 AM EDT up reply actions

Haha, yes. Typo. :)

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by Brian Galliford on Apr 20, 2010 11:42 AM EDT up reply actions

Nobody likes bait breath...

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by coolness1 on Apr 20, 2010 12:18 PM EDT up reply actions

sushi anyone?

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by Bogeyman on Apr 20, 2010 4:00 PM EDT up reply actions

Yes please.

by TheAfghanTwilight on Apr 20, 2010 5:46 PM EDT up reply actions

Personally

I’d rather they go Pouncey, which i haven’t heard anyone say they’ll do. Obviously the middle of our line is less of a need than the tackles, but Levitre-Pouncey-Wood would be locked in for at least a decade, and we could plug in Hang at guard so that we don’t have to rush Wood back.

Eh, now that I type it out, I guess I’d rather have Davis. I’m going to be mad if he’s a primadonna, though….

...so I guess now I root for chan gailey...

by JPH on Apr 20, 2010 11:07 AM EDT reply actions

I think you have to hope they take a QB or LT that high in their draft.

by TheAfghanTwilight on Apr 20, 2010 11:35 AM EDT up reply actions

Is it just me, or does that pic of Sam Bradford remind you of Ryan Reynolds?

by AndyOffGeneseeSt. on Apr 20, 2010 11:19 AM EDT reply actions

absolutely does.

ryan reynolds doesn’t get to be in enough movies, he’s really funny.

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by JPH on Apr 20, 2010 11:32 AM EDT up reply actions

Out of curiosity

Do you have Dan Williams falling because you don’t like his talent or because teams aren’t looking for a NT? I think I like him more than Davis at 9….

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by JPH on Apr 20, 2010 11:46 AM EDT reply actions

Williams

I can see San Fran, Arizona or San Diego all taking him. Pittsburgh too, perhaps, thought that’s less likely. San Diego doesn’t even have a NT right now, so I really don’t see a player of Williams caliber getting by them.

I know they need a RB, but NT is just as big a need for them, IMO.

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by Kurupt on Apr 20, 2010 11:54 AM EDT up reply actions

I wouldn’t be shocked to see any of the three teams you mention take him.

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by Brian Galliford on Apr 20, 2010 11:57 AM EDT up reply actions

Williams’ fall was more circumstance than anything. I don’t think he’s as good as we want to believe he is, but he’s still more likely to go 15-25 than fall to Minnesota.

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by Brian Galliford on Apr 20, 2010 11:56 AM EDT up reply actions

this would be a dream come true for me. hopefully u are right and the bills select exactly as you did in your mock draft. i can’t wait for thursday.

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by chaucer on Apr 20, 2010 11:51 AM EDT reply actions

Ditto!

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by fansince83 on Apr 20, 2010 11:52 AM EDT up reply actions

will u remember your roots when you work for yahoo?

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by chaucer on Apr 20, 2010 11:52 AM EDT reply actions

Great

I would give up my entire annual salary for this this mock draft to be real (although I would prefer for one of the 3 best LT)!!!!

Brian are you still not in the Tebow bandwagon??

by rick p on Apr 20, 2010 12:05 PM EDT reply actions

I’m trying hard to not be on any player’s bandwagon, simply because I try to keep an open mind on draft day. As I’ve said before: what the hell do I know about evaluating incoming NFL talent?

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by Brian Galliford on Apr 20, 2010 12:20 PM EDT up reply actions

I still believe

that if Buffalo does NOT take Tebow at #9, he will be gone. Long gone. I think a lot of teams are waiting to see what Buffalo does with that #9 pick and would like to get their meathooks in Tebow. I would NOT want to take the chance of passing him up and the STEENKING Pats sign him…. That would really stink…… He will not be there at #41; sorry Brian. :)

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by coolness1 on Apr 20, 2010 12:22 PM EDT reply actions

Calling it now

the raiders will pick Demarcus Cousins with the 8th pick. Good size and athleticism.

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by JPH on Apr 20, 2010 12:22 PM EDT reply actions

His attitude would fit right in in the stands there....

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by Kurupt on Apr 20, 2010 1:20 PM EDT up reply actions

Bleacher Report on Tebow

I can’t express my opion on your #41 pick. Clarke Judge from CBS Sports has an article about your #41 pick. Good reading

by Bob on Apr 20, 2010 12:25 PM EDT reply actions

link?

by TheAfghanTwilight on Apr 20, 2010 12:34 PM EDT up reply actions

I´m all about getting a LT in the first and move up with our 2nd pick to get Tim or Colt. I don´t think any of them will be at #41 but if they are… we should party.
Remember that QB´s move up the board come draft day.. someone like Loseman comes to mind.

I don´t know if it´s possible but if Belicik moves up to get Tim I´ll hate the guy even more. Remember that he has a good relationship with Tebow and it wouldn´t surprise me if he goes after him just to make sure he doesn´t end up in Orchard Park.

by rick p on Apr 20, 2010 1:05 PM EDT reply actions

I actually think Belichick spends little to no energy thinking about how to mess up Buffalo’s plans. Until the team proves they deserve to be on the same field, there’s no reason he should.

by TheAfghanTwilight on Apr 20, 2010 2:41 PM EDT up reply actions

Why wouldn’t the Bengals select WR Demaryius Thomas instead of another TE? They got their supposed TE of the future last year in Chase Coffman. Have they given up on him?

And Anthony Davis is going to be another Mike Williams sized BUST. No desire for the game.

The best case scenario for the Bills is:

KC – Berry
Seahawks – Bulaga
Browns – Haden
Raiders – Pierre-Paul
Bills – Trent Williams

by buffaloranger on Apr 20, 2010 1:07 PM EDT reply actions

Coffman was an injury risk coming out, and was hurt again last year.

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by Brian Galliford on Apr 20, 2010 1:22 PM EDT up reply actions

And you just don’t pass up Jermaine Gresham at that point in the draft. He’s going to be a talent in the NFL.

by TheAfghanTwilight on Apr 20, 2010 1:30 PM EDT up reply actions

Colts 2nd rounder

(Assuming that the Colts would have cut Eric Foster in the several months between the story first coming out and the big news of a civil suit if there had been anything to it) DT isn’t a big need for Indy. They could possibly upgrade from what they have, but Mookie and Muir really stepped up last year at the 1-tech and Fili Moala is expected to show up this year as the big 3-tech they’ve wanted for a good while now.

I think defensive end is more likely to be addressed with Wootton and Carrington there as nice fits for Raheem Brock’s vacant role and an undersized edge rusher that fits their style in Jason Worilds to be a needed 3rd pass rushing option.

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by shake n bake on Apr 20, 2010 3:47 PM EDT reply actions

Yeah, I wasn’t sure precisely how well Atkins fit into Coyer’s scheme anyway. I really like him as a prospect though, and think that a guy like Coyer could find a way to use him very well.

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by Brian Galliford on Apr 20, 2010 4:17 PM EDT up reply actions

Atkins fits and I think he's a good prospect and reasonable value but I LOVE Wootton or Carrington in the 2nd

and think Indy can do just fine with their current drop of DTs

by shake n bake on Apr 20, 2010 5:08 PM EDT up reply actions

McClain

I think the McClain being available scenario is very interesting and think the Bills would have to take McClain over an OT, particularly a young OT with possible motivation problems. I’m still not sure the Bills have any strong leaders in the locker room to get wayward youth headed on the right path. I’m not sure I see Davis as an upgrade over Bell or Meredith with an offseason of good conditioning under their belts.

by williamsDT on Apr 20, 2010 4:23 PM EDT reply actions

Great post Brian. Good mock draft. Way to do your homework.
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by SERGEANT MAJOR THOR on Apr 20, 2010 7:09 PM EDT reply actions

I can't wait for this Tebow talk to end

I think all the Bills fans clamoring for Tebow is ludicrous.

First of all, he’s going to have to sit on the bench to watch and learn for 2-3 years before he’s ready to start in the NFL. He’s completely revamped his throwing motion and no one knows how that will come out during a real game, and his footwork still needs work.

If he goes to a good team where he can come in sporadically, like in a Wildcat package, he could get some early success. But if he goes to a bad team, like the Bills, he’s going to have to do too much. We’ve got among the weakest receiving corps and offensive lines in the league. It’s going to be all up to him any time he’s not handing off.

Let’s shore up those other weaknesses this year, along with LB and D-Line, and then come back next year (likely with a very high draft pick) when there will be more can’t-miss QBs available in the draft. Clausen is too iffy for the #9 pick, and Tebow too iffy for #41 when we need someone who can come in now and start.

Maybe Tebow makes sense in Round 2 for a team with an established QB, but not for Buffalo.

by Tomski on Apr 20, 2010 9:17 PM EDT reply actions

i completely disagree.

…but that’s totally reasonable.

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by JPH on Apr 20, 2010 9:33 PM EDT up reply actions

QBs

I don’t think this is a good year for QBs. Even the top one, Bradford, has a major durability issue. Everyone see Jon Gruden call him the worst sliding QB he had ever seen?

If we pick Clausen or Tebow, we’re going to have to give them a ton of money, meaning we’re going to have to pass on whichever QB we’d all be drooling over with the #4 overall pick next year, or wherever we finish.

I’d rather wait a year when there are more and better options.

by Tomski on Apr 20, 2010 9:56 PM EDT reply actions

I’d rather wait a year when there are more and better options.

I hear this all the time in regards to every positional group, and my answer is always the same: that’s not how NFL personnel people work. If there’s a guy they like, they’ll try to take him. Next year has ZERO bearing on what happens Thursday, Friday and Saturday, nor should it be a factor for us.

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by Brian Galliford on Apr 20, 2010 10:13 PM EDT up reply actions