Keep an eye on the '01 Chargers theme
by Brian Galliford on Apr 23, 2010 2:57 PM EDT
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Buffalo Bills General Manager Buddy Nix has many years of experience in NFL personnel, and prior to his gig with Buffalo, the most prominent position he'd held was Assistant GM in San Diego. Nix went to San Diego in 2001 with late former Bills GM John Butler, and in their first draft out west, the team traded out of the No. 1 overall pick, passing on a quarterback they weren't interested in - Michael Vick - to slide down to No. 5. With that pick, the Chargers took TCU running back LaDainian Tomlinson.
Last night, Nix's Bills passed on a highly-touted quarerback they weren't overly interested in - Jimmy Clausen - in order to take Clemson running back C.J. Spiller.
After taking Tomlinson, San Diego, with the top overall pick in the second round, took a shot on Purdue quarterback Drew Brees. Buffalo could have a similar opportunity in this evening's second round, with both Clausen and Texas' Colt McCoy still on the board.
In 2001, instead of throwing Brees into the fire, the Chargers signed a 39-year-old journeyman quarterback by the name of Doug Flutie. He started all 16 games that season, threw 15 touchdowns and 18 interceptions, completed 56.4% of his passes, and sported a quarterback rating of 72. The Chargers, largely behind Tomlinson's outstanding rookie season (1,236 yards, 59 receptions, 10 touchdowns), finished 5-11.
Earlier this week, Pat Moran at BuffaloSportsDaily.com relayed comments from Bills head coach Chan Gailey regarding 40-year-old free agent quarterback Jeff Garcia, using the word "quality" to describe the veteran. Though he didn't play much in 2009, Garcia sported a quarterback rating of 90.2 in leading the Tampa Bay Buccaneers to a playoff berth in 2008. Garcia was coached by current Bills quarterbacks coach George Cortez when the two were together in the CFL.
The similarities are eerie. We're not making any claim other than that.
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Wait what year did the Chargers take Marcus Mcneal in the 2nd?
The player I would like least at #9 would be my sister’s cat, Captain Creamsicle. She does have a great work ethic and agility, but I’m really concerned that at 9 lbs., she’s too small to play safety in the NFL. She also bites way too often on play action and is easily distracted by someone waving string in the crowd. Lastly, her wonderlic score was pretty awful, answering "meow meow meow" for most of the questions- Dr. Brackish Okun
Nope, but they did take a LT in the third round and started him as a rookie! Damian McIntosh, who didn’t exactly work out, but was a decent enough player.
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My bad, McIntosh was their 3rd round pick the year before.
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why do i not remember flutie playing for the bolts? oh well
if that was the case, it would make me very happy.
by quantumuprising on Apr 23, 2010 3:05 PM EDT reply actions
Well give me the same outcome, and I'll be thrilled
If Spiller can become anywhere near as productive as LT, and Clausen/McCoy become as good as Brees, then sign me up RIGHT NOW!
~K
"As the governor of Louisiana once said, the only way Chris Kelsay can lose his job is if he got caught in bed with a dead girl or a live boy."
by Kurupt on Apr 23, 2010 3:11 PM EDT reply actions 3 recs
I think Spiller can be Marshall Faulk of the Greatest Show On Turf vintage if Gailey uses him right.
Nix and Chan, the new Cheech and Chong of the Bills, hopefully they will be as successful in business as they were, and not so much the drug fueled comedy act....
OMG REC’D!!!!
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by MattRichWarren on Apr 23, 2010 3:18 PM EDT up reply actions
I refuse to get excited until we see who they pick today.
Show me the baby CHIX, and it better not look like the pool boy from our vacation at Club Jauron!!!!!
"I'm a peripheral visionary." - Steven Wright
Shhhhhhh
Keep the baby hidden, till Campbells drafted. I’ve heard him say he eats babies.
The player I would like least at #9 would be my sister’s cat, Captain Creamsicle. She does have a great work ethic and agility, but I’m really concerned that at 9 lbs., she’s too small to play safety in the NFL. She also bites way too often on play action and is easily distracted by someone waving string in the crowd. Lastly, her wonderlic score was pretty awful, answering "meow meow meow" for most of the questions- Dr. Brackish Okun
Unbelieveable similar
While I don’t exactly agree with the method, can’t disagree with the results that San Diego got.
I would love for the Bills to have Clausen fall to them. Most will say that’s improbable. So was Clausen falling out of the first round. Maybe if Buffalo’s lucky….. Clausen falls to 41.
I know we have to be patient…. frustrating, but sensible.
Quit, don't quit? Noodles, don't noodles? You are too concerned about what was and what will be. There is a saying: yesterday is history, tomorrow is a mystery, but today is a gift. That is why it is called the "present." --Oogway
Well, if they repeat the process as in 2001 and it works, were in good shape aren't we? I feel like rounds 4-7 will all be trench players
That or OLBs, we need men for the lines and the rush.
Nix and Chan, the new Cheech and Chong of the Bills, hopefully they will be as successful in business as they were, and not so much the drug fueled comedy act....
Love trench warfare.....Call of Duty, Bills at War :-)
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by Joe P. on Apr 23, 2010 3:32 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
But Brian....
hate to break it to you, but the rest of that draft unfortunately, brought next to nothing for the Chargers… We need more than just 2 good players out of this draft….
I really like to get Garcia
And it’s important to remember that Cortez and Garcia weren’t just succesfull together in Calgary, they won a championship together before Garcia jumped to the NFL. I would deffinatly give him a shot here in Buffalo.
The more I see, the less I know.
by CanadianBillsFan on Apr 23, 2010 3:23 PM EDT reply actions
If I were Garcia and the Bills called, I would politely say no thanks and crawl back into bed with my hot wife
"I'm a peripheral visionary." - Steven Wright
Due if I was Jeff Garcia and ANY TEAM CALLED I would crawl back in bed.
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by MattRichWarren on Apr 23, 2010 3:34 PM EDT up reply actions
True, but this could be a reason they let TO go.
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by thefourwinds on Apr 23, 2010 4:21 PM EDT up reply actions
??? T.O. or no T.O. I’m not leaving her side. :-)
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by MattRichWarren on Apr 23, 2010 4:25 PM EDT up reply actions
very eerie indeed
made more eerie by the fact that thats exactly what i told my dad this morning when were discussing the draft. and i said that colt mccoy has the same question marks about size and arm strength that drew brees had at the time. i would still rather have clausen but because of this i wouldn’t be surprised if we got mccoy
While it seems most would welcome a result equal to SD's, I would not....
While impressive, they still have the same number of rings as the DJ regime. I am not just satisfied with making the playoffs, I expect more. I remember the days of making the playoffs were the norm, hell we expected to go to the Superbowl. It’s time for the Bills to return to the group of elite, I want a Superbowl!!
I'll stop whining, when I stop caring!
Lynch
Would Lynch, a 6th, and the 41st get Buffalo up to 34 in a trade with Minnesota?
"We want Jimmy. We want Jimmy." -a scene from "Hoosiers" (and does Chan Gailey sort of resemble Coach Norman Dale a little?)
That would probably work… I’m kind of hoping that Lynch and the 41 would do it though.
The more I see, the less I know.
by CanadianBillsFan on Apr 23, 2010 3:44 PM EDT up reply actions
Most definitely.
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by MattRichWarren on Apr 23, 2010 3:51 PM EDT up reply actions
Yes, our 2nd and our 4th would do it, and Lynch alone (w.o the 6th) should be worth our 4th to MIN...
They are hard to play but not hard to beat.
- Mike Lombardi on the Buffalo Bills
Lynch
Would Minnesota really want Lynch? I know they lost Chester Taylor, but Lynch isn’t going to take carries away from AP.
They would be better off taking Clausen themselves and grooming him for Post Favre.
If AP gets injured, who do they have?
Besides, Marshawn is a different style of back than Adrian.
So what are the chances for an Avalanche vs. Sabres finals, eh?
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by UZ on Apr 23, 2010 5:38 PM EDT up reply actions
What we should do in my opinion is draft Charles Brown or Saffold at 41, IF Clausen is not on the board. Then trade Marshawn to the Seahawks for their late second rounder and use that pick on BPA, preferably Cam Thomas. Then trade our fourth round pick to the Skins for Jason Campbell
"The one commonality in both places (Oakland and Buffalo) is an aging owner who keeps interfering too much. Ralph Wilson continually butts his nose in the football operation and tells the team who to draft"
by BillsfanfromDenmark on Apr 23, 2010 3:53 PM EDT reply actions
The Bills aren't getting a 2nd for Lynch
Or a 3rd
~K
"As the governor of Louisiana once said, the only way Chris Kelsay can lose his job is if he got caught in bed with a dead girl or a live boy."
Would be nice...
but I don’t think Seattle would give us a second rounder for Lynch. Doesn’t mean we can’t dream though :)
by BuffaloWahoo on Apr 23, 2010 4:06 PM EDT up reply actions
Brees ---> Clausen/McCoy
Lets just not let them go in FA in 4 years because we have the 1 overall pick, trade back 3, and pick a NC State QB. Though, if the Bills can get Mike Glennon from State, he’s the next Matt Ryan.
ooo
i like the thought process lol. glennon has a cannon and looks like he could be a star…..if he can get out from wilson’s shadow
So...
pick up Clausen, sign Garcia, trade either Trent, Ryan or both (probably Trent) and voila?
Okay, I can work with that.
I'd be on board
But I doubt they could get anything for either Edwards or Fitzpatrick..they’d probably end up just cutting one or both.
"We want Jimmy. We want Jimmy." -a scene from "Hoosiers" (and does Chan Gailey sort of resemble Coach Norman Dale a little?)
Draft
I am very old and forgetful so if you want to jump on me, OK. Seems to me OJ didn’t have much around him when he was drafted; also don’t think the Billies did very well the first couple of years he was here. However, the supporting cast was brought in as they built the Bills into a dangerous playoff contender (stupid penalty on Pat Toomay notwithstanding). Anyway, great teams can be built around an outstanding running back. Just takes some time. I am RESERVING judgement for a bit.
Frcorny
Let’s hope Chan does better with CJ than Rausch did with OJ—used him as a decoy. Wasn’t until Saban returned that the scenario you described started to unfold. The point you make is very true though. It can be done.
by radan on Apr 23, 2010 4:33 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
But even Saban misused him....
OJ left, OJ right, OJ up the middle seemed to be his playbook… Heck, do you remember even the WRs wore blocking facegaurds!!!!
Ha ha. Who was it—Seymore tight end, jD Hill, Ahmahd Rahsad ? Lou let Fergy throw a little and certainly OJ wasn’t complaining. Most importantly they won and maybe Ralph was remembering those times with his quote today—it was exciting.
by radan on Apr 23, 2010 5:09 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Ralph Wilson says:
“We’ve been dull for 10 years . . . no excitement. We’ve got to create some excitement.’’
Commenting on the Spiller pick.
Rich, old, and now master of the understatement!
I was in love with a beautiful blonde once. She drove me to drink; that's the one thing I'm indebted to her for. - W.C. Fields
Depends if you consider Spiller running into the back of our Olinman exciting.
"I'm a peripheral visionary." - Steven Wright
I was thinking maybe he could crawl under their legs :-)
Show me the baby CHIX, and it better not look like the pool boy from our vacation at Club Jauron!!!!!
mostly because I don't think he will have any holes to go through
Show me the baby CHIX, and it better not look like the pool boy from our vacation at Club Jauron!!!!!
In Spiller's presser a few minutes ago
He made some fine quotes including:
“Pressure only comes into play when you’re unprepared. I know the type of work ethic I have and I won’t be unprepared.”
I love that attitude and I’m happy that this guy knows what he has to do to be successful. I don’t think he’s going to give the Bills any of the problems that McGahee or Lynch gave them, and for that I am (cautiously) thankful.
Chan Gailey also said:
“I don’t care about your feelings, I’m all about scoring points.”
Time to put the biscuit in the basket, show the baby, kiss the baby, GET THE SHIP ON THE ROAD, and so on. I like the ‘us against the world’ attitude, but we need the results so badly. Ding dong flaber for all.
~K
"As the governor of Louisiana once said, the only way Chris Kelsay can lose his job is if he got caught in bed with a dead girl or a live boy."
by Kurupt on Apr 23, 2010 4:13 PM EDT reply actions 5 recs
I like that last paragraph. LOL
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by MattRichWarren on Apr 23, 2010 4:16 PM EDT up reply actions
I will rec anything that ends in Ding Dong Flabber for all.
"I'm a peripheral visionary." - Steven Wright
Rec’d for this.
Time to put the biscuit in the basket, show the baby, kiss the baby, GET THE SHIP ON THE ROAD, and so on. I like the ‘us against the world’ attitude, but we need the results so badly. Ding dong flaber for all.
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by thefourwinds on Apr 23, 2010 4:22 PM EDT up reply actions
That last paragraph just got me pumped for tonights selection. Thank you.
"What wins the majority of the time is blocking, tackling, throwin', catchin' and kickin" - Chan Gailey
by dragonwag0n on Apr 23, 2010 4:49 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
It's fun to channel a little abayarde
~K
"As the governor of Louisiana once said, the only way Chris Kelsay can lose his job is if he got caught in bed with a dead girl or a live boy."
Not nearly enough caps lock to be abayarde!
So what are the chances for an Avalanche vs. Sabres finals, eh?
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by UZ on Apr 23, 2010 5:39 PM EDT up reply actions
says the guy who could only muster 6 points in an ACC Championship game against Wake Freaking Forest.
The only cure for a bad today is tomorrow.
by norcaliangelsfan on Apr 23, 2010 4:23 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Could never put up points against rival Georgia either.
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Haha
It was pretty poor weather if I recall the correct game. And he did have Reggie Ball at QB. Right?
~K
"As the governor of Louisiana once said, the only way Chris Kelsay can lose his job is if he got caught in bed with a dead girl or a live boy."
uh all he had to do was throw it up to Calvin Freaking Johnson........
couldnt even do that.
The only cure for a bad today is tomorrow.
by norcaliangelsfan on Apr 23, 2010 5:26 PM EDT up reply actions
Bold prediction
Bruce Campbell is the Bills second round pick tonight. I’m calling it now. (though im probably wrong)
The player I would like least at #9 would be my sister’s cat, Captain Creamsicle. She does have a great work ethic and agility, but I’m really concerned that at 9 lbs., she’s too small to play safety in the NFL. She also bites way too often on play action and is easily distracted by someone waving string in the crowd. Lastly, her wonderlic score was pretty awful, answering "meow meow meow" for most of the questions- Dr. Brackish Okun
(though im probably wrong)
replace “probably” with “hopefully” and i’m on board :-)
We got the tools, We got the talent
What dont you like about Campbell
The fact that he’s raw? Most of the OT’s coming out of college got crap to work on. Or the fact that he’s got all the tools of an elite LT?
The player I would like least at #9 would be my sister’s cat, Captain Creamsicle. She does have a great work ethic and agility, but I’m really concerned that at 9 lbs., she’s too small to play safety in the NFL. She also bites way too often on play action and is easily distracted by someone waving string in the crowd. Lastly, her wonderlic score was pretty awful, answering "meow meow meow" for most of the questions- Dr. Brackish Okun
mostly the “work out warrior” that puts me off. I care most about what he has done on the field and he hasn’t looked great and he does get injured a lot.
We got the tools, We got the talent
by J2 on Apr 23, 2010 5:37 PM EDT up reply actions
Spiller's our guy
There are no takebacks the Bills still have 8 picks left to feel some needs—2 & 3 are still going to be good players!!! I know what most are thinking and I’ve said the same thing about the importance of building from the inside out.
When there is an opportunity to get an offensive player with game breaking ability and arguably the most electric player in the 2010 draft, if the Bills don’t take him there better have been a can’t miss stud Pro Bowl player at the no#9 spot. There were very good players available but none with the rating of Spiller———he was the choice that had to be made. Spiller has proved himself in college in a good football conference.
Now last year the Bills took Maybin at #11 based on potential because of his final college season. He clearly wasn’t the best player available when Orkapo, Oher and Cushing where still on the board. The Bills reached to fill a need. Maybin is still a year a way from being productive….
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I don't know if anyone has mentioned this
But Spiller is going to be very fun to play as in Madden 11.
"What wins the majority of the time is blocking, tackling, throwin', catchin' and kickin" - Chan Gailey
by dragonwag0n on Apr 23, 2010 4:51 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
Oh yea absolutely
I cant wait to see the playbook they give the Bills either
The player I would like least at #9 would be my sister’s cat, Captain Creamsicle. She does have a great work ethic and agility, but I’m really concerned that at 9 lbs., she’s too small to play safety in the NFL. She also bites way too often on play action and is easily distracted by someone waving string in the crowd. Lastly, her wonderlic score was pretty awful, answering "meow meow meow" for most of the questions- Dr. Brackish Okun
Will they include pass plays at all?
So what are the chances for an Avalanche vs. Sabres finals, eh?
I am the 1st and probably only official member of the David "Dr." Jones fanclub. Until I get the newsletter out, anyway.
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by UZ on Apr 23, 2010 5:41 PM EDT up reply actions
Yea man
Fred Jackson is a heck of a passer lol
The player I would like least at #9 would be my sister’s cat, Captain Creamsicle. She does have a great work ethic and agility, but I’m really concerned that at 9 lbs., she’s too small to play safety in the NFL. She also bites way too often on play action and is easily distracted by someone waving string in the crowd. Lastly, her wonderlic score was pretty awful, answering "meow meow meow" for most of the questions- Dr. Brackish Okun
i think its funny people still think clausen is coming to buffalo
i really really really doubt he gets picked up by the bills today. the most likely qb to be drafted by the bills (imo) is skelton…maybe mccy
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