2010 NFL Draft Grades: Buffalo Bills
by Brian Galliford on Apr 26, 2010 9:06 AM EDT
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Applying grades to any NFL Draft completed within the past three years is a joke. Less than 48 hours removed from the close of 2010 NFL Draft festivities, it's ridiculous to try to gauge exactly how a team's weekend in went in terms of the amount of talent imported. No one knows how these players' respective careers will turn out.
Instead, we're going to take a slightly different approach to grading the Buffalo Bills' draft. Rather than make bold predictions about the team's future prospects and the possible career outcomes of these athletes, we'll scale it back a bit and grade each new Bill based purely on the type of utility that the team will get out of them as a rookie. It's a slightly different tactic, but at least it's tangible to what will happen in 2010, whereas your normal, run-of-the-mill draft grade has no utility whatsoever.
RB C.J. Spiller. I'm not sure the Bills' new coaching staff will be comfortable giving Spiller more than 15-18 touches per game as a rookie, particularly with Fred Jackson and Marshawn Lynch on the roster. Chan Gailey will need to be creative in the way he uses Spiller, not only to mask the rookie's deficiencies (running between the tackles, pass protection), but to maximize his ability to make game-breaking plays. He'll run, catch, return kicks and punts, and you may even see him operate the Wildcat a time or two. Immediate Impact Grade: A-
NT Torell Troup. He'll see a significant amount of playing time, not only because he's a solid football player, but because teams will absolutely test out Buffalo's run defense - repeatedly - before they attack the team's proven play-making talent in the secondary. (It also helps that two of Buffalo's three divisional opponents are run-first teams.) I wouldn't be shocked to see Troup get between 30 and 40 snaps per game as a rookie, allowing Kyle Williams to move around a little bit. Immediate Impact Grade: B
DE Alex Carrington. Long-term, Carrington has a shot to be the best player in this draft class not named Spiller. His physical talents are immense; he just needs to work on consistency and get that motor humming every play. In 2010, he'll be a situational player that rotates in to spell starters Dwan Edwards and Marcus Stroud. Even as a part-timer, he has a chance to make an impact as a pass rusher and a run stopper. Immediate Impact Grade: B-
WR Marcus Easley. The one-year wonder from Connecticut has huge potential. That word is thrown around freely this time of year, but I'll emphasize it again - really, seriously, this guy could end up being really good. But he is so raw, so inexperienced and so in need of a ton of NFL coaching that it's hard to see him getting significant snaps at receiver this season, even including the fact that James Hardy, Steve Johnson and Chad Jackson are so unproven themselves. Easley looks like a fourth or fifth receiver to start, and will likely need to make his mark on special teams. Immediate Impact Grade: D
OT Ed Wang. He lacks Easley's level of inexperience, but Wang is another project player in need of serious coaching. Athletically, he's got everything you want, but he needs to hit the film room hard, as more often than not he looks completely lost on the football field. Wang is a ball of clay, and Buffalo's coaching staff will need to mold quickly. He probably won't factor into the race for the starting left tackle job. Immediate Impact Grade: F
ILB Arthur Moats. The athletic collegiate defensive end was thought to be a 3-4 OLB prospect, but Gailey mentioned post-draft that the Bills will play him at inside linebacker (though I suspect that will change if Aaron Schobel retires). Given the logjam of veteran depth at the top of the depth chart at ILB (Andra Davis, Paul Posluszny, Kawika Mitchell), Moats, barring an injury to one of the vets, won't see many snaps defensively as a rookie - unless the team decides to give him a shot at the outside, where he could see rotational work. He's a great athlete that loves to play, which makes him an instant-impact coverage player on special teams. Immediate Impact Grade: D
OLB Danny Batten. Unlike Moats, whose short-area quickness is fairly average, Batten is phenomenal getting off the line, registering faster shuttle and split times than even Aaron Maybin a year ago. Buffalo will keep Batten on the outside, where his explosion could earn him a handful of reps as a situational pass rusher if he picks up George Edwards' defensive scheme quickly enough. Expect more snaps as the season rolls along. Batten's motor and work ethic are ridiculous. He will be an absolute force on special teams. Immediate Impact Grade: C-
QB Levi Brown. I'm a Brown fan. I like him as a prospect. But people were worried about Leodis McKelvin's transition from Troy cornerback to NFL cornerback; that transition is infinitely more difficult going from Troy quarterback to NFL quarterback. If Brown doesn't land on the practice squad as a rookie, he'll be the team's third quarterback, and if we're lucky, he won't see a single snap in 2010. That's not a bad thing - except when you're grading a draft based on immediate impact. Immediate Impact Grade: F
OG Kyle Calloway. I'm so infinitely glad that Buffalo is choosing to play Calloway at guard, because even though he's a bit long and lanky for the position, that's where his best chance at sticking in the league occurs - and I think his chances are good. Buffalo needs as much toughness and grit along the line as they can get, and Calloway has those qualities. I'm not expecting much from a seventh-round lineman, but it would not surprise me in the least if Buffalo experimented with Calloway at right guard, moving Eric Wood to center. Again, I don't expect that to happen, particularly immediately given Wood's health, but long-term, that's certainly an option. Immediate Impact Grade: D
Weighting top picks far more heavily than the lower-round picks - because honestly, who expects immediate contributions from a fifth-, sixth- or seventh-round pick? - Buffalo's 2010 NFL Draft class earns an immediate impact grade of C+. Spiller, Troup and even Carrington factor heavily into the team's plans in 2010, but project players like Wang and Easley really affected the final grade. Don't be surprised if the team gets more instant utility out of a guy like Batten or Calloway than they do out of Wang and Easley. Long-term, all of these players have a chance to make it, but now we're getting into joke territory, aren't we?
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I realy like Easley
I watched him play West Virginia last year. The Moutaineers still haven’t tackled him. Not to make more comparisons, but he could be the Vincent Jackson type of taller receiver that’s often available later in the draft.
Where this really matters to me is in playing the Patriots. The Pats have always struggled with pass catching TE’s and bigger WR’s. Remember TO tearing them up in the Super Bowl? Or how they struggled to cover Plaxico Burress? The Pats are always sound defensively, but have never been physically gifted in the secondary, as a whole.
BTW, Easley torched Devin McCourty, too. Really like the Easley pick.
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I like
that he is physical in the blocking department. Given what this offense will try to do having excellent blocking WR’s is a necessity to give Spiller a chance to go the distance.
great point
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also
if im betting on a wideout to learn how to play football and really improve, my money is on the one who is willing to block.
CJ Spiller: CJ stands for Chris Johnson.
Willingness to block is definitely a good indicator of competitiveness/toughness, which is something I love in all football players.
by Jeff Winters on Apr 26, 2010 12:31 PM EDT up reply actions
Speaking of taller receivers – I’m digging the fact that Nix and Gailey both like bigger receivers outside. I’m a bigger receiver guy myself. I like the mix of 6-plus footers Hardy, Johnson, Jackson and now Easley. Good talent there, and one of the most interesting open competitions on the roster.
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by Brian Galliford on Apr 26, 2010 9:44 AM EDT up reply actions
I agree
it may shake out that we don’t have any dominant receivers but a bunch of guys that put up decent numbers that are interchangable. then it comes down to do we have a QB that can deliver the ball and an Oline that can provide some level of protection.
The smurf approach wasn't doing it for you?
:)
I couldn’t understand the list of short receivers that rolled through here, epsecially during Donahoe’s tenure. (Apologies to Lee Evans).
Having one isn’t so bad if they’re as talented as Evans, but you can’t coach height.
by syrbillsfan on Apr 26, 2010 10:15 AM EDT up reply actions
The Rookie FA
we just signed in David Nelson is more in line with the Vincent Jackson type… he could be a steal. He had a hard time getting playing time with all of the talent on UF’s offense and he didn’t really fit the spread that well, but when he was on the field he made plays.
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by ForeignArrow on Apr 26, 2010 11:37 AM EDT up reply actions
I agree with that
Although he never really did anything at UF. I agree the fit might not have been there, so he’s definitely worth a shot here. He’s got good athleticism and is over 6’5". If Nix was looking for an unknown gem to become a Vincent Jackson, or more likely a Malcolm Floyd, Nelson has the appearance of being that guy. I’d love to see that guy turn into a downfield threat just like those two Chargers WR’s have…..
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unspectacular
37 catches the last 2 years at florida…not so hot. His 4.63 forty time also is mundane. With the good vert and broad mixed with his height I’d say a good goal line treat though (poor man’s hardy, really poor man). Did have 7 TDs mixed into those sparse catches.
by killabstingz on Apr 26, 2010 1:24 PM EDT up reply actions
You know, I was thinking...
What if Troup works out well enough to play more than we all think, and Kyle Williams finds more rest on the bench? What if they decided to play him a bit at fullback on the goalline?
Random thought in here, I know. I don’t know where else it fit best.
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by TheAfghanTwilight on Apr 26, 2010 9:33 AM EDT reply actions
i would hate to be blocked by kyle williams.
or tackled by him. i basically want to avoid being touched by kyle williams in any way.
CJ Spiller: CJ stands for Chris Johnson.
If your more than 6 inches away
You should be pretty clearly out of arm reach ; )
The player I would like least at #9 would be my sister’s cat, Captain Creamsicle. She does have a great work ethic and agility, but I’m really concerned that at 9 lbs., she’s too small to play safety in the NFL. She also bites way too often on play action and is easily distracted by someone waving string in the crowd. Lastly, her wonderlic score was pretty awful, answering "meow meow meow" for most of the questions- Dr. Brackish Okun
Kyle Williams doesnt wanna be fed
Kyle Williams wants to hunt
Props to the poster who originally came up with that.
The player I would like least at #9 would be my sister’s cat, Captain Creamsicle. She does have a great work ethic and agility, but I’m really concerned that at 9 lbs., she’s too small to play safety in the NFL. She also bites way too often on play action and is easily distracted by someone waving string in the crowd. Lastly, her wonderlic score was pretty awful, answering "meow meow meow" for most of the questions- Dr. Brackish Okun
Chan Gailey will need to be creative in the way he uses Spiller, not only to mask the rookie’s deficiencies (running between the tackles,
May not be a deficiency! There may not be any holes between the tackles and he’ll have to run outside! Lemonade from lemons.
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Running outside the tackles is great...
Except when you don’t have decent tackles to start with.
that is my point
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not really…. i think the point was that our line is so bad theres no holes inside….and there’s no outside to run to
by quantumuprising on Apr 26, 2010 10:10 AM EDT up reply actions
Correct - sorry.
I meant to imply that without decent tackles to seal off the ends, there won’t be any running outside either.
Spiller
Spiller can make lemonade out of Captain Checkdown’s lemons.
by syrbillsfan on Apr 26, 2010 10:16 AM EDT up reply actions
Immediate Impact Grade
I really like this concept. I agree that the grades before 3 seasons is a ridiculous notion (For example, Buffalo’s 2006 Draft now rightfully deserves an empatic D).
Spiller looks like an amazing player, but I have a hard time buying he’ll have an “A” impact. Buffalo has had 1000 yard rushers the last three years, what’s Spiller going to do in his rookie season that completely shatters that production? Buffalo has also enjoyed an explosive return game for many seasons (although it was much less explosive in 2009). Spiller is special and he’ll be a great player in the NFL, but in terms of impacting Buffalo’s production…I’d say it will negligible and that’s no knock on him.
If we're going to suck again, let's at least beat New England once in 2010...you owe me that much at least, Bills.
Buffalo has had 1000 yard rushers the last three years, what’s Spiller going to do in his rookie season that completely shatters that production?
I’m more concerned about his touchdown total than his yardage total. Lynch and Jackson had two touchdowns each last year; they’re both good backs, but that doesn’t cut it. If Spiller scores 8 TD, to me, that’s A impact.
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by Brian Galliford on Apr 26, 2010 9:46 AM EDT up reply actions
agreed
and the fact that a RB breaks 1,000 is not considered an achievement any longer. we didn’t have a back on the team that can go the distance. now we do.
It will be fun and different having a RB with home run potential. Buffalo hasn’t had one in a long time. Even Thurman Thomas wasn’t exceptionally fast,; he broke a few long runs early in his career, but I don’t think 50 yard carries was ever a major part of his game.
My guess is Spiller ends up with about 900 yards rushing and 500 yards receiving next season with about 7 TDs. That will probably get him ROY consideration so I’m not complaining in the least. I just don’t see that as emphatically better than what Jackson would do as the back who gets the most touches. With that in mind, I’ll predict a B- for Spiller’s impact as a rookie.
If we're going to suck again, let's at least beat New England once in 2010...you owe me that much at least, Bills.
7 TD's is a "A" grade to me
but that’s just my low expectations for overall touchdowns talking
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I’d gather this was a HUGE selling point for Nix and Gailey.
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by TheAfghanTwilight on Apr 26, 2010 9:57 AM EDT up reply actions
so many projects....
that was my reaction to most of the picks, why are we picking long term projects. do we have that much faith in our coaching staff? the Bills have more holes to fill than most teams and we mostly drafted for depth. the only player I see getting extensive playing time is Spiller and I think most fans would have been comfortable with Jackson as the starter all season and another backup whether Lynch stays with the team or another RB. I wasn’t very happy with the draft. They selected a project at #1 last year and still don’t know what he has to offer and over the season brought more frustration to fans as we saw other rookies selected later providing much more to their team.
Troup is going to get a lot of playing time.
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by MattRichWarren on Apr 27, 2010 10:04 AM EDT up reply actions
Good write, post rant Brian...
I think we’re gonna see Wang work this year at least, behind Green over on the right side, maybe even staying there in the future…
Considering our pass rush woes, I think we may see a little more of Carrington, and Batten/Moats than you expect… Anything I’ve seen on Carrington in particular, this kid, when he’s hot, is unstoppable. He really jumped out at the Senior Bowl practices where I don’t think any of this draft class OTs could handle him…
I’ve posted before that I knew nothing of Easley, but the more I see, the more I like… In highlight videos, I thought I was watching D Thomas; same stride, same patterns, same power to run through tackles… And quite frankly, Thomas needs work in the same areas as Easley will… And I’ll take these high level work ethic characters any day…..
Wang appears to have an ideal skill set and body for LT. If learning technique is his main issue, I’m confident he can do that. His intelligence level and work ethic(been training since he was like 9 years old) should enable him to develop at a faster pace the some other fat guys.
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why hasn't he learned technique if he's been training since he was 9 and spent the last 4 years at virginia tech?
not trying to be snarky, honestly wondering.
CJ Spiller: CJ stands for Chris Johnson.
Because he's only been an O lineman for about 2 years
He’s another former Tight End
The player I would like least at #9 would be my sister’s cat, Captain Creamsicle. She does have a great work ethic and agility, but I’m really concerned that at 9 lbs., she’s too small to play safety in the NFL. She also bites way too often on play action and is easily distracted by someone waving string in the crowd. Lastly, her wonderlic score was pretty awful, answering "meow meow meow" for most of the questions- Dr. Brackish Okun
and I doubt his Chinese Olympian parents would be able to provide much input on NFL LT technique. Watch his vid. they had him working out since he was a kid.
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nd his little brothers a incoming freshman at Virginia Tech
In a few years if where lucky, the Bills could have 2 Wangs.
The player I would like least at #9 would be my sister’s cat, Captain Creamsicle. She does have a great work ethic and agility, but I’m really concerned that at 9 lbs., she’s too small to play safety in the NFL. She also bites way too often on play action and is easily distracted by someone waving string in the crowd. Lastly, her wonderlic score was pretty awful, answering "meow meow meow" for most of the questions- Dr. Brackish Okun
Even a post like this is best done after training camp
Who knows? Wang et al could surprise some people, happens every year.
Why not do a draft recap over the last few years? A little less impactful with the GMs who drafted them gone-but at least we’d all have some known quantities, right?
In all honesty, who in the world wants to talk about the last few drafts? We know what those picks have brought the team. This is something different to talk about. It’s not insane to provide a meaningful article on the potential of these rookies. I’m sure there area great number of people who wonder just how in the world any of these guys make an impact in 2010. Brian has laid it out there.
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by TheAfghanTwilight on Apr 26, 2010 9:47 AM EDT up reply actions
They brougth alot of injury.
Both mental and physical.
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by TheAfghanTwilight on Apr 26, 2010 9:58 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Last years draft was a good one. 4 starters including one 1st year probowler. If Maybin gets going that would be 5 starters which would be amazing.
I’ll give you last year’s draft, but only because it’s too early to tell anything about their actual NFL talent. Also, they are essentially rookies, having to learn what we all expect are very different schemes.
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by TheAfghanTwilight on Apr 26, 2010 10:19 AM EDT up reply actions
nix
was a part of drafting 22 pro-bowlers in his time at SD. enough said.
Golum had one.
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by TheAfghanTwilight on Apr 26, 2010 10:20 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
i was going to post
that i could see us winning a ring for ralph, and then ralph going all gollum on it and living forever and being obsessed with it, but im not going to, because I don’t know if Ralph would care if we won. Obviously he’d be happy, but I don’t think it’d change his day-to-day routine…
CJ Spiller: CJ stands for Chris Johnson.
I thought I heard
him refer to his other self as Smeagol once…
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i like this immediate impact grade, well done Brian.
When you talk about Troup, were you saying that he might push Williams to DE?
by quantumuprising on Apr 26, 2010 10:09 AM EDT reply actions
He might allow Williams to spend a little more time at DE, but Williams’ focus will probably be NT as well – unless Troup blows the coaching staff away on the practice field.
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by Brian Galliford on Apr 26, 2010 10:38 AM EDT up reply actions
what is Wang's height and arm span compared to some of the top prospects of the draft?
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by billsoferie on Apr 26, 2010 11:12 AM EDT up reply actions
Okung 6’5 36"
Williams 6’5 34 1/4"
Davis 6’5 34"
Bulaga 6’5 33 1/4"
Brown 6’5 35 1/4"
Wang 6’5 33 3/4"
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Jason Peters arm length is 33 1/8
Cleveland Browns Joe Thomas 33 3/4
New York Giants David Diehl 33 3/4
Washington Redskins Chris Samuels 33 1/2
New England Patriots Matt Light 33 1/2
Carolina Panthers Jordan Gross 33 1/4
Green Bay Packers Chad Clifton 33
Tampa Bay Buccaneers Donald Penn 33
Atlanta Falcons Sam Baker 32 3/4
Detroit Lions Jeff Backus 32 1/2
Tennessee Titans Michael Roos 32 1/4
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Jamon Meredith 34"
Demetrius Bell 33 1/4"
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really good info
thank you
I think Wang has the heart and motivation to be good, just needs practice
Thant why we got teachers not coaches i guess
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I can't see Williams playing much DE
if at all.
We have Stroud, Edwards, Carrington and Spencer Johnson to rotate out there. They are all much better fits on the outside than Williams is.
~K
"As the governor of Louisiana once said, the only way Chris Kelsay can lose his job is if he got caught in bed with a dead girl or a live boy."
Agreed
I think the idea is to keep Troup and Williams fresher for the 4th quarter of games, so our run defense doesn’t wear down so much.
And with the 9th pick of the 2010 NFL Draft, the Buffalo Bills select...C.J.Spiller?
Don’t you think Williams is better than all of them at rushing the passer? He might bump outside on passing downs… of course Troup stinks at pass rushing.
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by MattRichWarren on Apr 27, 2010 10:06 AM EDT up reply actions
I think going after small school guys might not be such a bad idea. A lot can happen between high school and the end of college. Just because a guy was not top rated in high school does not mean he should not play in the pros.
I think the Giants did pretty well drafting their linemen from the smaller schools in later rounds.
i think its not a bad idea if you’re a more established team….even if those guys are great players at their level, their adjustment to the speed and such of the nfl is considerably more than the guys who played at major college level. Even if the guys do end up being great, they usually are developmental players that take some time to develop. For a crappy team like the bills, drafting small school/FCS guys shouldn’t be a long term policy.
by quantumuprising on Apr 26, 2010 10:12 AM EDT up reply actions
i disagree
if you’re good, you need immediate impact guys to plug into your lineup, and then your later round picks can be projects. Buffalo has the luxury of drafting more projects because all the immediate impact guys in the world wouldn’t affect this team’s fate. They likely aren’t a playoff team this year, and it’s not because they drafted Easley instead of a day-1 starter..
CJ Spiller: CJ stands for Chris Johnson.
(It also helps that two of Buffalo’s three divisional opponents are run-first teams.)
Are you sure about that Brian? I wouldn’t call New England a “run first team”
but he would call the Jets and the Dolphins run-first teams, so…..
by quantumuprising on Apr 26, 2010 10:13 AM EDT up reply actions
D’oh! Maybe if I learn how to read, I can start making comments. SOme basic math skills would help, too.
by syrbillsfan on Apr 26, 2010 10:18 AM EDT up reply actions
its okay, i usually tend to blackout when i try to remember us playing the patriots in the past 6 years
by quantumuprising on Apr 26, 2010 10:28 AM EDT up reply actions
Hey Brian, what are the chances that we try to sign Adalius Thomas now that the pats released him? Wouldn’t that be pretty good insurance with Schobel’s decision up in the air? That is if Thomas would even consider coming here?
Speaking of Schobel, was anyone else surprised his name didn’t come up during the draft? I see no way he wants in on this rebuild.
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by TheAfghanTwilight on Apr 26, 2010 10:20 AM EDT up reply actions
I think Adalius Thomas stinks. He’s not a pure pass rusher. He belongs in a defense like Baltimore’s, rather than the Pats-style one the Bills are trying to emulate. I’d pass, and I think Buffalo will, too.
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by Brian Galliford on Apr 26, 2010 10:39 AM EDT up reply actions
There was discussion of him going to the Jets.
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by TheAfghanTwilight on Apr 26, 2010 10:47 AM EDT up reply actions
That makes sense
Reuniting with Ryan.
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Be nice to see a couple UDFA guys too
Antonio Coleman and Joique Bell are superb UDFA scores, IMO
take a look http://www.fox10tv.com/dpp/sports/mobiles-coleman-signs-with-bills
http://wsuathletics.cstv.com/sports/m-footbl/mtt/bell_joique00.html
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For Brian
Why do you think Antonio Coleman stinks so badly? He probably isn’t athletic enough to drop into coverage, but he can be a situational rusher in the NFL. He produced in college and has good size, despite lacking great athleticism. I think it’s a nice addition after the draft at such a desperate position. I also wonder if he could move to ILB if he fails on the outside at all? The size and punch is certainly there.
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I see zero explosion and zero polish out of Coleman as a pass rusher. I think he has more value to the team at ILB. I don’t think he’ll ever be more than a special teamer.
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by Brian Galliford on Apr 26, 2010 11:23 AM EDT up reply actions
Fair enough
I didn’t see much explosion either, but he did produce pretty well so it was worth the looksie.
~K
"As the governor of Louisiana once said, the only way Chris Kelsay can lose his job is if he got caught in bed with a dead girl or a live boy."
Calloway
I think you were a little harsh in rating Calloway… I think he provides depth immediately and based on the ability (or lack thereof) of our OL staying healthy, I wouldn’t be surprised to see him play this year. I see him as one of those guys whom will never be good enough to be a consistent starter, but will always be valuable on the bench/fill-in… I also beleive while they want him to play guard, he could obviosly swing outside if needed… I think of him as a better Kirk Chambers. ©
I got nothing.
by Jason from OH-IO on Apr 26, 2010 10:28 AM EDT reply actions
Harsh with the analysis, or harsh with the grade? Because I did say he could see PT at RG. I gave him a D grade because if he’s not playing, he doesn’t have much more value to the team.
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by Brian Galliford on Apr 26, 2010 10:40 AM EDT up reply actions
He's worth a C at least...
Given the last several seasons’ worth of injury lists. Immediate impact grade should be higher just for having a warm body on the bench that knows the playbook.
Calloway
Is Calloway penciled in as the primary backup at G at this point or in other words, the most likely to start at RG if Wood isn ‘t ready? Is it Christian Gaddis at this point? Are any of Buffalo’s developmental tackles suited for a permanent move to the inside? Ramsey? Meredith?
If we're going to suck again, let's at least beat New England once in 2010...you owe me that much at least, Bills.
Right now
I’d have to agree that Calloway is our starting Guard without Wood. They have to add a veteran interior lineman in the coming weeks because there is no depth whatsoever right now. Gross.
~K
"As the governor of Louisiana once said, the only way Chris Kelsay can lose his job is if he got caught in bed with a dead girl or a live boy."
Wasn’t Meredith thought of as guard coming out of college? Not that we know anything about the guy, but Buffalo seems to have too many project tackles on the roster already…I’d rather throw more to the wall as guards come training camp and see if any of them stick.
If we're going to suck again, let's at least beat New England once in 2010...you owe me that much at least, Bills.
Nah, Meredith was a project LT type, kind of in the mold of Ed Wang.
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by Brian Galliford on Apr 26, 2010 11:24 AM EDT up reply actions
Are you suggesting Jordan Gross?
Not sure he’s available.
by StroudFanClub on Apr 26, 2010 3:15 PM EDT up reply actions
I heard this UDFA from
Georgia Tech is supposed to have some potential. It would be nice if one of them suprised us.
The player I would like least at #9 would be my sister’s cat, Captain Creamsicle. She does have a great work ethic and agility, but I’m really concerned that at 9 lbs., she’s too small to play safety in the NFL. She also bites way too often on play action and is easily distracted by someone waving string in the crowd. Lastly, her wonderlic score was pretty awful, answering "meow meow meow" for most of the questions- Dr. Brackish Okun
If Troy Brown gets an F grade, what grade does Brohm get?
"the true is we havent had SQUAT, SQUISHY,SAQUASUM SAQGUANDO, DIDLY DORI BING TURY CRAP" - abayarde
haha – Troy Brown made me laugh
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by Brian Galliford on Apr 26, 2010 10:49 AM EDT up reply actions
wow. just noticed. major brain crossfire. it’s all in there, just not in the right spot. LOL.
"the true is we havent had SQUAT, SQUISHY,SAQUASUM SAQGUANDO, DIDLY DORI BING TURY CRAP" - abayarde
It's all good
I could have sworn Levi Brown was lefthanded despite seeing a number of videos on him. That is probably due to the Levi Brown the Cardinals drafted to protect Matt Leinart’s blind side. Ya know, left handed Matt Leinart?
~K
"As the governor of Louisiana once said, the only way Chris Kelsay can lose his job is if he got caught in bed with a dead girl or a live boy."
haha yep.
it was all that matt leinart you’ve been watching these past few years.
K loves watching the cards second team practice…
CJ Spiller: CJ stands for Chris Johnson.
It was Levi Brown
And why he was drafted. It has nothing to do with watching Leinart play, which is very painful I might add.
~K
"As the governor of Louisiana once said, the only way Chris Kelsay can lose his job is if he got caught in bed with a dead girl or a live boy."
Is there any chance..
That Buffalo trades Marshawn now? I know Nix was really firm on saying theyre keeping him, but that was the first thought in my mind when i heard C.J’s name called in the draft. And it seems to me the past couple years that maybe Marshawn wants out of Buffalo, so will they try to trade him and have C.J be Fred’s compliment?
by gatorempire127 on Apr 26, 2010 10:46 AM EDT reply actions
I think so.
Depending on what they can get for him. Otherwise I’m happy to have him as our goalline back with Fred as our every-down-guy and Spiller as… well… Spiller.
I don't see it
I certainly don’t see anyone giving up a 2011 draft pick for him. Maybe a 2nd or 3rd stringer swap for Marshawn but I’m thinking The Bills are just going to keep him. Even if he’s a situational back, there’s more value there then there would be for any trade at this point.
"We've got to show you the baby, and the baby is winning." -BUDDY NIX
thats a good point. Even if they use him as like a Lendale White kinda guy just near the goaline and on 3rd and short situations he will still be a good addition. I was just thinking in terms of keeping the stud rookie happy that maybe if they get rid of Marshawn and put Spiller as the second man on the depth chart behind Fred, which may happen anyway, that it would be a good choice for the Bills. You always want to keep your first round investments happy so he plays at his best for you for a long time.
by gatorempire127 on Apr 26, 2010 11:49 AM EDT up reply actions
only if Joquie Bell makes him look stupid in TC.
"the true is we havent had SQUAT, SQUISHY,SAQUASUM SAQGUANDO, DIDLY DORI BING TURY CRAP" - abayarde
I'm guessing that's not going to happen
Joique Bell is slooooooooooooow.
~K
"As the governor of Louisiana once said, the only way Chris Kelsay can lose his job is if he got caught in bed with a dead girl or a live boy."
Personally, I’d wait until the first big-time running back gets hurt to peddle Marshawn again. Training camp/pre-season injuries at running back always happen.
by Jeff Winters on Apr 26, 2010 11:33 AM EDT up reply actions
Only if the price is right.
which I dont see hapening now. I think he will be on the team at the beginning of the season, but when a playoff team losses their #1 RB at some point during the season his value could go up. By then Spiller will be broke in to the offence, and Lynch would be even more dispencible than he is now. At that point a second round pick in 2011 might look good to both teams. Also Lynch will show improvement this year IMO (if he is smart he will see driving his value up is his best chance out of town.)
give him a bunch of snaps week 1 and 2
he’ll be hungry, let him churn out 180 yards and a touchdown over two games, then flip him for a pick, and give CJ his snaps.
that’s how I’d handle it, if everything went according to plan.
CJ Spiller: CJ stands for Chris Johnson.
Love the Spiller pick (especially for immediate impact)
I really like the idea of Calloway as the new Kirk Chambers………..
The only cure for a bad today is tomorrow.
by norcaliangelsfan on Apr 26, 2010 11:27 AM EDT reply actions
I really like the idea of Calloway as the new Kirk Chambers………..
Really? Cuz my brains still recovering from 2009 Kirk Chambers.
The player I would like least at #9 would be my sister’s cat, Captain Creamsicle. She does have a great work ethic and agility, but I’m really concerned that at 9 lbs., she’s too small to play safety in the NFL. She also bites way too often on play action and is easily distracted by someone waving string in the crowd. Lastly, her wonderlic score was pretty awful, answering "meow meow meow" for most of the questions- Dr. Brackish Okun
yeah but Calloway is better...........
The only cure for a bad today is tomorrow.
by norcaliangelsfan on Apr 26, 2010 11:50 AM EDT up reply actions
I agree
You just spooked me with the Chambers reference, it felt like he really fell off a cliff last year.
The player I would like least at #9 would be my sister’s cat, Captain Creamsicle. She does have a great work ethic and agility, but I’m really concerned that at 9 lbs., she’s too small to play safety in the NFL. She also bites way too often on play action and is easily distracted by someone waving string in the crowd. Lastly, her wonderlic score was pretty awful, answering "meow meow meow" for most of the questions- Dr. Brackish Okun
Still trying to figure that one out.
Going into 2009 I had Chambers as a very serviceable offensive lineman, boy was I wrong. He was even cut at the end of preseason.
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Walker was servicable too...
and he was cut……..so…..just chalk it up to another of Jauron’s curious moves…….but alas the man was grasping at straws……because he knew he had one foot out the door.
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by norcaliangelsfan on Apr 26, 2010 12:13 PM EDT up reply actions
me too.
Langston Walker was a serviceable RT before 09 as well. I have no idea what happened. Fat guys get old fast I guess.
CJ Spiller: CJ stands for Chris Johnson.
well he never had a shot at RT in 09'
cuz they moved him to LT.
that was a really bad move
"Hold ya chin up...nuh nuh nuh...gone" -Marshawn Lynch-
Dezmon Briscoe
IMO Briscoe will be a significantly better pro than Easley. Could’ve had him with same pick. Film doesn’t lie. Reports say he doesn’t go 100% all the time. Regardless of events surrounding Mangino firing, you don’t play for Mangino unless you practice hard and put forth 100% during game time.
He may be a tad slower than Easley but one of Briscoe’s positives is that he gets off the line very well. That certainly would/could make up for that. He’ll be a very good starting possession guy who will excel over the middle.
We’ll see. I’m a Pitt alum living in Kansas. There’s absolutely no question who played against superior competition and Briscoe produced BIG time.
On a side note, KC station this morning hammering Chiefs for passing on Troup in 2nd round. I definitely liked hearing that and look forward to the Bills, again, visiting Arrowhead this year for another W.
by FergusonQB12 on Apr 26, 2010 11:35 AM EDT via mobile reply actions
There are 2 good defenses in the big 12
I wouldn’t say Briscoe played against much better defenses.
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by ForeignArrow on Apr 26, 2010 12:10 PM EDT up reply actions
Texas, Nebraska and Oklahoma all finished in the top 10 nationally in total defense
#3, 7 and 8 respectively. Kansas also played Kansas State (#39) and Texas Tech (#49), who were top 50 defenses.
UConn played UNC (#6), Ohio (#45), Pittsburgh (#23), West Virginia (#36), Rutgers (#18), Syracuse (#37), South Florida (#24), and South Carolina (#15).
So yeah, Easley played against more quality defenses, while Briscoe faced more top flight defenses. Briscoe also produced much better stats because he played in a pass happy offense, while UConn was a run heavy offense. UConn QB’s threw the ball 372 times, while Todd Reesing himself threw 496 passes for Kansas. Not to take anything away from Briscoe, but I’d have to believe Easley would put up big time stats if he was in the Kansas offense.
~K
"As the governor of Louisiana once said, the only way Chris Kelsay can lose his job is if he got caught in bed with a dead girl or a live boy."
the overall quality of play in the big east is not comparable to the big 12.
CJ Spiller: CJ stands for Chris Johnson.
Actually
All anyone needs to do is look that the first 4, & 5 of the 1st 6 picks in the first round & 8 total were from the BXII.
by FergusonQB12 on Apr 26, 2010 2:39 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Yeah I don’t think anyone plays defense in the Big 12. The wide open offenses make everyone look good there.
by Jeff Winters on Apr 26, 2010 12:22 PM EDT up reply actions
Anyone know
what free agents we signed?
"I don't agree with a damn thing you say, but I would die for your right to say it."
"If I had to do it all over again, I'd do it all over again."
Unofficially
John Destin, CB, Tulsa
Naaman Roosevelt, WR, Buffalo
Donald Jones, WR, Youngstown St.
Joique Bell, RB, Wayne State
Stephan Virgil, CB, Virginia Tech
Brett Johnson, S, Cal
Antonio Coleman, DE/OLB, Auburn
David Nelson, WR, Florida
Dominique Harris, S, Temple
Sean Allen, C/G, ECU
Jorge Guerra, OL, TAMUK
Cordaro Howard, OL, Georgia Tech
The player I would like least at #9 would be my sister’s cat, Captain Creamsicle. She does have a great work ethic and agility, but I’m really concerned that at 9 lbs., she’s too small to play safety in the NFL. She also bites way too often on play action and is easily distracted by someone waving string in the crowd. Lastly, her wonderlic score was pretty awful, answering "meow meow meow" for most of the questions- Dr. Brackish Okun
thanks
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by ForeignArrow on Apr 26, 2010 12:10 PM EDT up reply actions
no worries
The player I would like least at #9 would be my sister’s cat, Captain Creamsicle. She does have a great work ethic and agility, but I’m really concerned that at 9 lbs., she’s too small to play safety in the NFL. She also bites way too often on play action and is easily distracted by someone waving string in the crowd. Lastly, her wonderlic score was pretty awful, answering "meow meow meow" for most of the questions- Dr. Brackish Okun
wouldn't mind having more guys named naaman in my life.
hope he makes the team.
CJ Spiller: CJ stands for Chris Johnson.
I personally feel Levi Browns grade was a lil harsh
Having watched Brown play(x2 I might add) I dont really see how a 7th round QB with some upside, is really worth a F grade. I mean heck, I’ll bet money he ends up being better than Hamden. I can see a D grade for him, but I really dont think any 7th rounder deserves an F, or maybe they all do, I’m on the fence.
The player I would like least at #9 would be my sister’s cat, Captain Creamsicle. She does have a great work ethic and agility, but I’m really concerned that at 9 lbs., she’s too small to play safety in the NFL. She also bites way too often on play action and is easily distracted by someone waving string in the crowd. Lastly, her wonderlic score was pretty awful, answering "meow meow meow" for most of the questions- Dr. Brackish Okun
You missed the point of the article – IMMEDIATE IMPACT. Brown won’t play a single snap this year.
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by Brian Galliford on Apr 26, 2010 2:18 PM EDT up reply actions
Well
I might just take that bet. I mean what if our QB’s really are just that horrible? I can envision a scenario where Brown gets some playing time, and it’s not even that far fetched.
The player I would like least at #9 would be my sister’s cat, Captain Creamsicle. She does have a great work ethic and agility, but I’m really concerned that at 9 lbs., she’s too small to play safety in the NFL. She also bites way too often on play action and is easily distracted by someone waving string in the crowd. Lastly, her wonderlic score was pretty awful, answering "meow meow meow" for most of the questions- Dr. Brackish Okun
I mean our QB's right now are
Fragile, Inconsistent, Unproven, and a Rookie. And sad as this is, does Brown have to show that much to be #2 here?
The player I would like least at #9 would be my sister’s cat, Captain Creamsicle. She does have a great work ethic and agility, but I’m really concerned that at 9 lbs., she’s too small to play safety in the NFL. She also bites way too often on play action and is easily distracted by someone waving string in the crowd. Lastly, her wonderlic score was pretty awful, answering "meow meow meow" for most of the questions- Dr. Brackish Okun
I mean… what are the odds that the top two QBs go down to injury and the Bills are forced to start an unseasoned QB, right? :-)
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by MattRichWarren on Apr 27, 2010 10:10 AM EDT up reply actions
Wow Brian you used alot of superlatives in this article!
So if we’re thinking about long term and (mostly) everyone works to their “potential” we could look back at this draft class five years from now and applaud it? I’m think so. I don’t see any boom or bust type of guys but I see many solid potential veterans on the list.
Immediate Impact Grades = Shortsighted Grades.
If think if you’re grading for immediate impact you have to curve the grades. Name a team that would deserve much more than a B in this category – as you have it graded.
Spiller should be an A+.
Even if he touches the ball less than 20 times a game, he changes the offense every time he steps on the field. The Bills haven’t had a legitimate receiving threat out of the backfield since Thurman Thomas.
And with all this talk about defenses stacking the box. Why is it that when you’re talking about a good running offense on a team that’s winning, you say that it’s bad for a defense to constantly have to stack the box. But if the team is losing you lament that you can’t get teams to stop doing it??? In reality it helps the passing game tremendously, and with any luck the Gailey offense will be better able to take advantage of it.
When you DON’T have a running game teams don’t stack the box and they shut down your passing attack. We won’t have that problem.
I expect dynamite from Spiller… nothing less.
The Troup pick is a B if you have almost no trust in the Bills current scouting department because it was clear they feel he was the best Nose in the draft. I suppose we bloggers know a little more about what they should have done so this “has to be less than an A,” right off.
I give the Troup pick an A.
You’ll see a fresh Kyle Willliams getting to the passer on third down and long. LONG because opposing offenses will be less capable of pushing the pocket this season. I was so sick of watching New England get to 2nd and short three times a drive because our front seven just couldn’t hold up against the run. If that changes even 50% of the time, we’re a much much better defense.
Thou shall not drinketh thy KoolAid...
You know what else would make us stouter against the run?
Giving everyone in our defensive Front 7 a Louisville slugger on each third and short. Lets see someone run against that.
The player I would like least at #9 would be my sister’s cat, Captain Creamsicle. She does have a great work ethic and agility, but I’m really concerned that at 9 lbs., she’s too small to play safety in the NFL. She also bites way too often on play action and is easily distracted by someone waving string in the crowd. Lastly, her wonderlic score was pretty awful, answering "meow meow meow" for most of the questions- Dr. Brackish Okun
Or we could
Just unleash Johnson…………………what???
The player I would like least at #9 would be my sister’s cat, Captain Creamsicle. She does have a great work ethic and agility, but I’m really concerned that at 9 lbs., she’s too small to play safety in the NFL. She also bites way too often on play action and is easily distracted by someone waving string in the crowd. Lastly, her wonderlic score was pretty awful, answering "meow meow meow" for most of the questions- Dr. Brackish Okun
Of course they’re short-sighted. That’s the point – it’s ridiculous to grade a draft class based on potential.
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by Brian Galliford on Apr 26, 2010 4:34 PM EDT up reply actions
It's both.
You want them to be able to get on the field for 30 snaps a game, but if you manage that you were poor to begin with – expansion team level of talent.
You are clearly looking at what they can become in your scheme. The reason you picked this player as opposed to that one. The Troup pick in particular is a potential pick when it all comes down to it because he’ll be playing the nose.
Thou shall not drinketh thy KoolAid...
Yes, thank you. I know why players are drafted. But grading a draft based on potential is ludicrous, and 99% of the time it’s flat-out wrong. Rather than put out a completely meaningless letter grade that will be proven wrong in subsequent years, I thought I’d use a more useful grading system. Sorry.
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by Brian Galliford on Apr 26, 2010 7:36 PM EDT up reply actions
I understand
…what you are doing here. But you are letter grading a draft that’s less than a week old so I guess the only objective way to do so would be an immediate impact grade.
Fair enough.
I’m just pointing out that the results don’t do this draft any justice.
How about the Cluasen situation in Carolina… he may be the future of the franchise, but he’s likely going to sit the entire season. Immediate impact = F? Unless he’s one hell of a clipboard holder, you would have to come to that conclusion because he isn’t bringing much value in ’10.
That would be a poor conclusion.
I’m sorry if my reaction to this was gruff. But you set the high water mark in here.
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agree. I like the idea of discussing immediate impact, but it’s deceptively negative to attach letter grades to the picks. It’s frustrating how people agree that rebuilding requires an investment that takes time to mature, but then get bent about immediate impact values. I’d rather see players drafted solely based on their ultimate long-term value to the team and plug short-term needs with capable vets, as much as possible. That’s not to say some rookies can’t contribute immediately, just that it’s not the primary consideration.
"the true is we havent had SQUAT, SQUISHY,SAQUASUM SAQGUANDO, DIDLY DORI BING TURY CRAP" - abayarde
Yeah, I didn’t write this article to get bent. I didn’t write it to be deceptively negative. I wrote it to have real-world application, which run-of-the-mill draft grades do not. That’s it. I had no agenda.
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by Brian Galliford on Apr 27, 2010 8:14 AM EDT up reply actions
I understand completely that you were simply providing an immediate impact perspective and also believe you are being objective in that context. It’s just that the big heading of “2010 NFL Draft Grades: Buffalo Bills”, followed by grades solely based on a singular, narrow criterion, is kind of false advertising, IMO, even if you did include the not so fine-print clarifications. I can imagine other outlets, compiling various draft gradings, having fun with something like “Popular Buffalo Fan Site Gives Big F Grade To Prospects Ed Wang and Levi Brown, While Easley, Moats and Calloway Earn D’s”. I just think the same useful discussion could be had with a more objective approach. I know I’m being a homer, but I don’t agree with the approach, that’s all.
"the true is we havent had SQUAT, SQUISHY,SAQUASUM SAQGUANDO, DIDLY DORI BING TURY CRAP" - abayarde
The Troup pick is a B if you have almost no trust in the Bills current scouting department because it was clear they feel he was the best Nose in the draft.
Dan Williams?
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by MattRichWarren on Apr 27, 2010 10:11 AM EDT up reply actions
I'm assuming
You are talking about the speculation that they wanted to move back into the first for Dan Williams? I haven’t been listening much to all of that, but Modrak and Nix said it plainly that they liked Troup the best.
“beauty is in the eye of the beholder…” was Modraks exact comment.
Thou shall not drinketh thy KoolAid...
Also Modrak’s exact comment: “We liked Troup the best of the bunch.” And by that, he was referring to the bunch that was available, which included Cody.
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by Brian Galliford on Apr 28, 2010 7:49 AM EDT up reply actions
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