Friendly Insight on Levi Brown
Hey fellas, I'm new around here and a lifelong Cleveland Browns fan but I thought I'd stop by and give you guys some of my thoughts on one of your new QBs, Levi Brown out of Troy. I went to Troy while Brown was still there and followed him pretty much his entire career as I'm a pretty die-hard Trojans fan. That being said, I'll try and stay away from any homerism. A lot of folks seem to be dismissing Brown as a viable QB option, but I implore you to at least reconsider. I liked him enough as a QB that I was hoping he'd fall to the Browns, and as much as I like Troy and their players, I like my Browns even more, so let that say something to you.
To start, I hear a lot of people talking about the offense that Levi came out of. I get the impression that most of the exposure that folks have gotten to Levi as far as film goes is the video posted earlier from an opening drive in Baton Rouge, 2008. To that point, there are two things to keep in mind:
1) Levi Brown played under center in a more pro-style offense for two years at the University of Richmond before transferring to Troy. Here is what his profile at the Troy athletic site says to that end:
Played football for University of Richmond through 2005 -2006 under Coach Dave Clawson ... In 2006, saw action in six games, one as a starter ... Against Villanova, he completed 24-of-36 passes for 332 yards and two touchdowns ... For the season, he completed 54-of-90 pass attempts for 618 yards and five touchdowns ... He was intercepted four times ... Helped lead team to 2005 Atlantic 10 championship, playing in five games, two as the starter ... Completed 12-of-42 passes for the season for 66 yards ... Was intercepted three times.
So as we can see, Levi has some experience in a more traditional offense against a quality level of competition, considering the fact that he was in only his first few years of college experience. Like I said in another thread, Richmond isn't exactly going up against SEC defenses, but as far as D1-AA goes, the Spiders are near the top of the heap. I do believe that there IS something to take from this.
2) The Troy offense was somewhat gimmicky his junior season, still utilizing the no huddle offense that was put to great use in the Tony Franklin era of Troy football where the players would rush to the line, then look back to the sideline where a series of colors and numbers would indicate the play after the defense had set up. However, in his senior season, the team got away from this. Two things happened that are of note: 1) While Troy didn't go on to use it very often if ever in the regular season, Neil Brown did develop short yardage packages with Levi under center. 2) The team started to transition to less and less of the tricksy no-huddle and more towards traditional play calling.
So we've established some HOPE (and make no mistake, hope is all I'm looking to give you, I dont claim Levi to be a messiah), that Levi will be able to slide successfully into a professional offense considering the wide open spread system he gained fame for in college at Troy. Speaking of Troy, let me give you some historical background on his career there.
Levi first sent Troy a tape when he was looking to transfer closer to his home in Mt Joliet, Tennessee. He actually wanted to stimulate interest from Middle Tennessee State, and hoped that MTSU would be motivated to snatch him up in order to prevent him from falling to the sworn Sun Belt rival Trojans. But Troy got the tape and snatch him up they did. At the time, the QB was Omar Haugabook, who is still legendary on Troy's campus (half of the students think he was drafted in the first round, in reality he plays indoor football in Louisiana). Omar was a fiery, competitive, mobile QB who was prone to INTs but kept Troy close in games against Georgia, Florida, Florida State and even led the team to a blow out of Oklahoma State in southeast Alabama in 07. Neil Brown liked the mobility aspect, and, even with Levi on the roster, N Brown decided to start former Purdue commit Jamie Hampton, who was a significantly worse passer but possessed some mobility Levi lacked. Brown was buried to the bottom of the depth chart, despite IMO having the best spring of the entire QB roster, and winning the hearts of several players.
After losing to Ohio State in a close game that was in my opinion decided by two Jamie Hampton turnovers, Troy looked to be content to simply win the Sun Belt, and in a game vs FAU in Boca, Hampton went down with a leg injury. Another QB named Tanner Jones came in for mop up duty in the Troy victory. Levi however won the starting job for the next game through the course of the week, and went on to win Sun Belt Newcomer of the Year honors in the weeks remaining. In his first game as a Trojan, Levi looked impressive, but didn't really break out until his second game vs North Texas where he complete 40 of 50 passes for 391 yards, 2 TDs, 0 INTs, 0 sacks. At that point, I was saying "I told ya so." From there, Levi continued to post great numbers, only throwing 3 INTs through the remainder of the season against 15 TDs, including a stellar game vs LSU, which I'm still to pissed to really want to talk about. It was in the bowl game against SMU when one announcer remarked that Levi was "the most accurate passer in college football." And in that game, I'd believe it.
Heading in to the 2009 season, Brown was named to the Manning Award Watchlist and expectations were high. Troy got a lot of hype and love from the press, which may or may not have contributed to our downfall. Troy opened up with a loss to Bowling Green, a game we should have won handily, but our defense didn't show up, our run game was pathetic and Levi gave up 2 INTs. The next game wasn't any easier, taking a 4 hour trip south to Florida to take on the Gators in the rain. Memories of a heroic performance against the Gators in 07 by the Trojans were quickly erased as Levi completed just 8 of 24 passes for a laughable 66 yards with a INT thrown in to boot. It is important to note however that the INT was largely the fault of WR Josh Jarboe, the recruit from Oklahoma who transferred after a YouTube video about skeeting and AK-47s left him out of Stoop's favor in Norman.
From there, things began to turn around. Brown had his first of 3 +400 yd games against UAB. Brown left many games early in which he was paced to break the 500 yard marker. Also interesting is that, excluding the first two games (still leaving in games vs quality teams such as Arkansas and CMU), Brown through 22 TDs to just 6 INTs.
As far as skills/talents/etc go...
Brown has great size at 6'4", 219 lbs. He's got an athletic build and great arm strength. I asked another Troy QB what he thought of Levi before he became the starter and his first response was, "He can throw the piss outta the ball." And he really can. As many of you know, he's got a great spiral, and while many have critiqued his release, I have to point out that the ball has zip and accuracy, and his deep passes turn nicely with minimal fluttering. His only problem is he sometime tends to float the ball on deep passes, but if anything he overthrows.
Another common criticism of Levi was that he was TOO careful with the ball. Levi was unafraid of getting outside the pocket and, finding no one open, throwing it out of bounds. He did this as much or more than any QB I have seen in the last year.
Brown is a solid passer in short range on the run, showing good form in squaring up his shoulders, getting power from the hips and leading his intended receiver with accuracy.
He is often cited as struggling with passes to the flats, and there is definitely some merit to that, however I believe it is overstated as the RBs at Troy during his tenure, mostly Maurice Greer (a UDFA with NE), DuJuan Harris, and Shawn Southward, lacked route running, timing and hands. This is certainly an area though in which Brown could use some work.
As far as intangibles, I certainly wouldn't worry about finding Brown doped up with a dead hooker and some apes stolen from a zoo in the Eastern bloc. Brown has a passion for Africa, and I'd be surprised if a sizable portion of his first check didn't go to Invisible Children or some similar organization. He seemed to lack a little bit of passion for football his junior year, but his zeal picked up and he turned into a confident field general in his senior campaign. The only thing that ever bothered me about Levi was his post-game comments after the UF loss, in which he seemed to not really care, as if he never expected to win. Personally, I dont care who your playing, I expect you to feel like you can beat anybody once. But that's just me.
Anyways, I'm sure theres some stuff I missed and I'm open for questions.
Just another great fan opinion shared on the pages of BuffaloRumblings.com.
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Great informative post, troy145
I like Brown plenty. I watched Troy’s bowl game vs. Central Michigan because I was a Dan LeFevour fan.
By game’s end, I was a Levi Brown fan.
He was decisive and poised in the pocket. Those are two QB characteristics that have been missing in Buffalo for years. And he does possess a rifle arm on short to intermediate throws.
Our Wang don’t Hang; it’s a Calloway Wood cause we got Levitre.
great right up
now this is a post that deserves a rec!
as far as people dismissing him, i wouldnt already assume this. people around here are yearning for someone to step up at the QB position, and if brown shows hes got it, none of us would hate it. so far the other guys havent stepped up, so hes got just as good of a shot as anyone!
Buffalo, that's where it's at baby. - Adam 'Pacman' Jones
Troy,
Thanks for the visitor post!
"A failure becomes just one time at bat if you refuse to let it defeat you." Marv Levy.
by SERGEANT MAJOR THOR on Apr 28, 2010 6:45 PM EDT reply actions
No problem!
The Browns will always be my team, but I love to follow my favorite college players’ teams as well. With Chan Gailey, Leodis McKelvin, and now Levi Brown all with the Bills, I’ll probably be dropping by fairly often.
Moisture is the essence of wetness.
McKelvin
Out of curiosity, was McKelvin a GREAT (top 11 in the draft, great) college player at Troy? I don’t recall if he was a production pick or more of a post season workout wonder…I vaguely remember him being lauded during Senior Bowl practices, but I might be thinking of Cromarte-Rodgers.
If we're going to suck again, let's at least beat New England once in 2010...you owe me that much at least, Bills.
he was a big time playmaker
and great special teams player. I think he warranted first round status…. idk about top 11. I do remember the scouts loved him.
Moisture is the essence of wetness.
Thank you
This is a great read. I would be very surprised if Brown didn’t have a shot at earning playing time. He’s the only QB tied to CHIX so I can see him having as much of a shot at the starting gig as the 3 guys nominally ahead of him on the depth chart.
It can always get worse. Let me tell you how.
by Ron From NM on Apr 28, 2010 7:11 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
I would have rec’d it earlier but I was on my mobile and that feature isnt’ available there.
It can always get worse. Let me tell you how.
by Ron From NM on Apr 28, 2010 10:02 PM EDT up reply actions
Thanks so much for the info
Levi looks like a very special young QB and the nice thing is that he is going to get some time to develop. His main job this year I suspect will be learning how to read NFL defenses, but Chan Gailey should take him in hand and make sure that happens. Who knows — five years from now he may be looking better than Clausen and McCoy.
great post, very informative
Seems like he has some drawbacks, but nothing that isn’t correctable… and the attitude problem after the UFA game may be due to any number of things… it might just be that the QB that comes in with nothing tainting his mind NFL-wise might be the best to pick up Gailey’s system and do the best. He is a clean slate, and it may be his best attribute outside of how he “throws the piss out of the ball”
It is Brohm’s Bills jersey that is the least stained with doo-doo... GO BILLS
awesome
thanks for taking the time. We appreciate it. I dont get why LeFevour and Pike got so much more national attention than Brown, who I think has just as much a chance for success in the NFL as them.
"you just have to know there's always going to be adversity. None of these games are going to be easy. Nothing will be given to us" - Paul Posluszny
Lefevour had 4 years of hype behind him
Plus, IMO, CMU is a higher profile program with its head coaches getting hired left and right. Pike also benefited from playing for a much more high profile team in an AQ conference with the Big East.
Moisture is the essence of wetness.
Great post and thanks!!
Maybe we have our franchise QB. Tom Brady was picked in the 6th round…..
Love those Bills but we're tired of losing......
Thank you for the info
It’s starting to make sense why the Bills passed on Clausen & McCoy early in the draft.
Sounds like Levi is going to be pretty easy to root for, IMO.
I’m as guilty of this as anyone else, but it just goes to show how the rankings we see leading up to the draft are influenced by PR & national exposure – and also how those rankings may differ significantly from what the Bills scouting staff have.
Hope this pick works out for everyone who loves Bills football.
You’re a sly old dog, Buddy.
And with the 9th pick of the 2010 NFL Draft, the Buffalo Bills select...C.J.Spiller?
This is the only part that has me concerned.
Memories of a heroic performance against the Gators in 07 by the Trojans were quickly erased as Levi completed just 8 of 24 passes for a laughable 66 yards with a INT thrown in to boot.
Yes, it’s the Gators, a tier 1 school, which means a tier 1 defense. But if weather was at all a factor in it, he may have a bit of trouble in the Ralph.
IMHO, Trent for the next year so we can see what we have left in him (I really do think he’s salvagable, but maybe not this year given the lack of attention to the O-Line). Then if he picks up, we have a solid starter for the next few years until Levi is ready to take over. If not, we see what Brohm or Levi have in them.
I am really, REALLY happy we didn’t jump on any of the “top” QB’s in this draft. It would have been a waste.
Cold weather is tough on most QB's
Even the great Dan Marino had his troubles at times with the cold and wind in Buffalo.
Do I want Buffalo’s QB’s to be able to handle the cold & wind in order to make that an advantage for the Bills? You betcha. But it takes time to adjust. Just ask some of the QB’s who have played here. Having a strong arm will help Levi make the adjustment, though.
Trent will most likely be starting this fall, which is not necessarily bad now that he has another weapon in C.J.Spiller to throw to. He will be helped a lot if the OL stays healthy this time around.
And with the 9th pick of the 2010 NFL Draft, the Buffalo Bills select...C.J.Spiller?
Will he be Tom Brady from a 7th round draft choice...?
God I’d love to see it and boy could we use it in due time. I don’t know if the Bills will have enough time to teach Levi the NFL game and determine if he is their QB of the future before next year at draft time? If any of the QB’s on our roster now are not the answer, will Levi be given enough of a look by the coaching staff to say where they will go in next year’s draft. Talk about pressure to draft a QB early next year… it will be extremely magnified if we don’t have a competent QB somewhere emerge. I hope Levi get’s to prove himself here and sticks. I think some luck has to fall is way though. Also fans and media type will need to get a glimpse of what the kid can do.
Thanks
I really appreciated this read. I’m hoping Brown makes the team and proves to be a real find. While I’m disappointed that Buffalo decided that the worst QB situation in football merited only a 7th round pick for a remedy, your insight leaves me hopeful that the Bills could have stumbled into something more. It’s better to be lucky than good, I guess: a recurring theme at One Bills Drive.
If we're going to suck again, let's at least beat New England once in 2010...you owe me that much at least, Bills.
spoken like a true clevland brown fan
hey, I will gladly trade the most winning qb in div 1 history (colt McCoy) for Levi brown anyday if the browns are up for it. Atleast your team will make some noise this year and my team will be once again bottom of the afc east.
by Taber New Bedford Buffalo on Apr 30, 2010 12:17 AM EDT reply actions
Rec'd
This was a great read. And it wasn’t really homerish at all. I can’t say I even knew who Levi Brown was when the Bills selected him. But I gotta say that the more I read on the guy the more I like him as a QB, and more importantly think he has a good chance at success. Well written and thank you!
Yeah, pick a guy from the powerhouse football program like Troy and pass up on a proven winner like McCoy, brilliant idea rite back at ya.
by Taber New Bedford Buffalo on Apr 30, 2010 10:55 AM EDT reply actions
If you use the reply button
It helps the conversation flow more easily, and plus it concentrates your negativity to just one area of the page as opposed to spreading it throughout.
Moisture is the essence of wetness.
Hahaha
Wow I never knew the reply button could be used like a quarantine.
The player I would like least at #9 would be my sister’s cat, Captain Creamsicle. She does have a great work ethic and agility, but I’m really concerned that at 9 lbs., she’s too small to play safety in the NFL. She also bites way too often on play action and is easily distracted by someone waving string in the crowd. Lastly, her wonderlic score was pretty awful, answering "meow meow meow" for most of the questions- Dr. Brackish Okun
I laughed also, he politely told Taber how to keep the debates together, and said it very well.
" A wise man once told me, never argue with a fool, becuase from a far, you can't tell who is who" - Jay-Z
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