Could Buffalo pull a Cleveland/Brady Quinn and pass on Clausen at #9?

by jri111 on Apr 7, 2010 1:18 PM EDT

As Tim Graham of ESPN.com recently stated in his AFC East blog, Buffalo’s first round draft pick revolves around Notre Dame starting quarterback, Jimmy Clausen:

ESPN draft analyst Todd McShay believes the Buffalo Bills own the pivotal pick in the upcoming draft.

The Bills hold the ninth selection, and that's where McShay predicts Notre Dame quarterback Jimmy Clausen will be in the spotlight.

If Clausen is on the board when the Bills pick and Buffalo sees him as a franchise quarterback, then it’s nearly certain that Clausen will be the next starting quarterback of the Buffalo Bills. But the draft never plays out as simple as we always seem to think it will. There’s a decent chance of a surprise pick or two in the top ten, especially with the Oakland Raiders picking in the eighth slot, right before Buffalo is set to go on the clock.

So perhaps a player (most likely an offensive tackle) that Buffalo has rated as a top 5 prospect is suddenly and unexpectedly still on the board (Bulaga or Williams?). And even more, Buffalo has that player rated higher on their draft board than Jimmy Clausen. What do they do?

Suddenly, if the Bills stay true to their board, they could pass on Clausen and take their highest rated player. Of course, if Buffalo decides to pass on Clausen, then where does he go? Probing even more, is it possible that Buffalo would have another chance at Clausen if the Fighting Irish QB started to slip into the 20’s? (Think Cleveland moving back up for Quinn after passing on him in the top 5). I’ll let McShay explain the rest:

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If Buffalo passes on Jimmy Clausen at #9 to take a player that they had more highly rated and Clausen was still on the board in the early 20's, would you be in favor of Buffalo packaging picks to trade up and get him?

Yes

141 votes

No

115 votes

256 votes | Poll has closed

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I voted not. I’m not a Clausen fan at all and hope that one of the top tackles are still on the board when Buffalo picks.

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by jri111 on Apr 7, 2010 1:24 PM EDT reply actions

I voted no because if they want him don't screw around....take him at 9

To many holes, we need the picks

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by Joe P. on Apr 7, 2010 4:59 PM EDT up reply actions

good point

didnt think of that when i selected yes.

by tyoungs25 on Apr 8, 2010 3:43 PM EDT up reply actions

Kiper says he heard Bills will pass on Clasuen at 9

Mel Kiper said he has heard that Buffalo will say no to picking Clausen at 9…I personally will not have a problem with that especially if there is a tackle available

by MarkyMarkO on Apr 7, 2010 1:27 PM EDT reply actions

McShay is the last person..

to listen too regarding the draft as far as I’m concerned… Heck, my dog knows more football than he does…
Regardless, as I stated in a thread I started a while ago, the fact the Bills chased McNabb, and apparently are interested in Campbell, tells me the Bills FO has no interest in the Pickle…. But quite frankly, if he slides, I say good because that might give us a better shot at landing Tebow in 2, or through a trade back up…. IF the FO wants him I have to add….

by Cinga on Apr 7, 2010 1:30 PM EDT reply actions

+1

I like the idea of going OT or another need position IF that player is rated higher Clausen. We still have Brohm to find out about, plus Tebow would be intriguing. I say lets set our next QB up with the right tools to succeed FIRST.

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by BigEasyBillsKrewe on Apr 7, 2010 1:36 PM EDT up reply actions

and apparently are interested in Campbell

I woudln’t put too much stock in that.

first it was “reported”
second I think the only reason it was even “reported” that they were intested was because we need a QB and went after McNabb hard and failed at him.

it could be true – but we rarely hear things from this regime unless a schedule or something more tangible is confirmed by OBD

We got the tools, We got the talent

by J2 on Apr 7, 2010 1:41 PM EDT up reply actions

I don’t want Jason Campbell and I don’t want Clausen. I don’t want any QB in the 1st round or before the draft. I think we have too many needs to “risk” a high pick on one this year. I say solidify our offensive and defensive lines and see what one of our 3 QB’s has in our new system.
Maybe grab LeFevour in a later round and go from there, but def not early in the draft.

by Teaters33 on Apr 7, 2010 1:43 PM EDT reply actions

I'm starting to get the fevour

saw a good video on him at Fox.com. High football IQ and just as athletic as Tebow…..they say!

by jimkutica on Apr 7, 2010 2:08 PM EDT up reply actions

I'm all for drafting LeFevour in the 4th or 5th.

I would keep Fitzy as my other QB, and let go one of the Edwards/Brohm duo. IMO, c ya, Brohm.

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by SouthBuffaloNDgrad on Apr 7, 2010 5:13 PM EDT up reply actions

Id rather have an OT or DT at #9 and see who falls to us at 41… forget trading up… to me, it isn’t worth it, for the most part, and not in this draft. We could still get a very good college QB, as good as Clausen in my opinion (Tebow or McCoy) and then continue addressing the rest of our needs.

It is Brohm’s Bills jersey that is the least stained with doo-doo... GO BILLS

by killascript on Apr 7, 2010 1:43 PM EDT reply actions

I'm with you...

on the trading up scenario, unless it’s for picks next year… This draft is too deep in our need areas, aside from QB…

by Cinga on Apr 7, 2010 2:14 PM EDT up reply actions

plus

I don’t really like Jimmy “Throw it up for grabs to one of the most talented college WRs” Clausen

It is Brohm’s Bills jersey that is the least stained with doo-doo... GO BILLS

by killascript on Apr 7, 2010 4:17 PM EDT up reply actions

Also, one of the worst OL's in college. Yea Jimmy never threw those beautiful

10-15 yard outs to whatever WR. He was never clutch down the stretch leading ND on four 4th quater comebacks. So then, Dez Bryants QB, should he be drafted on that merit alone. On those jump balls notice how they’re usually on the money, maybe left a few short, then again I would like to see Tebow throw those 10-15 yard outs like Clausen did on a game to game basis. Also, you obviously don’t know that was part of the offense that Weis ran, Quinn threw jump balls in his 2 years under Weis to Samardzija, and Stovall. I never saw Quinn do that under Ty Will. It was an obvious part of Weis offense, it happened every year for his 5 years, so it wasn’t just Clausen. Also, I think it was part strategy, when you have WR’s that can out-jump his DB (ND has had those WR’s under Weis) then with both jumping for the ball, I’d say 1/3 were ran in for TD’s from the DB missing the tackle or falling. I could say I don’t want to draft the Tim “I’ll just be a battering ram instead of pocket QB” Tebow, but I don’t think that single-mindedly like you do.

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by SouthBuffaloNDgrad on Apr 7, 2010 5:25 PM EDT up reply actions

I just watched games lookng to see something really great from Clausen and never did, and no I didn’t want to get into a whole explanation of it like you did, but frankly, I didn’t see much to like from Tebow either when I watched him, as I saw lacking games in both. Thought Bradford looked smart with the ball and polished, but he got injured and kind of left me wanting more. Oh yeah, did Tebow have a great OL, just asking. I actually think McCoy is better QB than McCoy and Tebow…. SO THERE

It is Brohm’s Bills jersey that is the least stained with doo-doo... GO BILLS

by killascript on Apr 7, 2010 5:34 PM EDT up reply actions

I meant Clausen and Tebow….

It is Brohm’s Bills jersey that is the least stained with doo-doo... GO BILLS

by killascript on Apr 7, 2010 5:35 PM EDT up reply actions

Ok. Yes, they have a better O-line, isn't Maurice Pouncy considered

a 1st round prospect, and then his brother is going to be most-likely another 1st round prospect next draft, Mike Pouncey. Also, look at his tackles, like Carl Johnson and Marcu Gilbet, both will be 2-4 round type prospects. You know what ND has, Sam Young a 5-7 round prospect, a Eric Olsen a C/OG, prolly going to go undrafted. That’s the great OL of ND, and they have one blue-chip NFL prospect on their line now and he’s going into his junior season that’s OG Trevor Robinson, that’s all.

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by SouthBuffaloNDgrad on Apr 7, 2010 6:27 PM EDT up reply actions

As to McCoy over Tebow & Clausen, that's nice, we all have our own opinions.

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by SouthBuffaloNDgrad on Apr 7, 2010 6:29 PM EDT up reply actions

I understand your a big ND fan

but its just my nice opinion, as yours seems to be. I didn’t see Clausen throw alot of nice balls, and always wanted more. I like ND, and I wanted the blue chip HS prospect to be a sure fire great QB, but he struggled against alot of teams that were on par with his mediocre team. If we pick him, great, I’ll be a fan till proven otherwise, just as I will tebow or McCoy…. Id just rather have a tackle at 9 :)

It is Brohm’s Bills jersey that is the least stained with doo-doo... GO BILLS

by killascript on Apr 7, 2010 8:29 PM EDT up reply actions

I agree, I want a OT, or NT. If OBD thinks Clausen is their guy, than I won't be upset.

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by SouthBuffaloNDgrad on Apr 7, 2010 10:30 PM EDT up reply actions

AND

like I said, Tebow was a big let down this past year, and I didn’t see better QBacking than Clausen… I guess I am hesitant at best with all the prospects

It is Brohm’s Bills jersey that is the least stained with doo-doo... GO BILLS

by killascript on Apr 7, 2010 8:31 PM EDT up reply actions

and it looks like we started this debate a while back

http://www.buffalorumblings.com/2010/3/28/1393857/2009-jimmy-clausen-highlights-via#33420943

didn’t realize it

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by killascript on Apr 7, 2010 9:19 PM EDT up reply actions

haha

I felt a sense os deja-vu.

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by SouthBuffaloNDgrad on Apr 7, 2010 10:31 PM EDT up reply actions

it proves we are at the very least consistent in our thinking

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by killascript on Apr 7, 2010 10:59 PM EDT up reply actions

I voted yes... buuuuuuuuuut

… I only vote yes if we trade away Schobel, which I still see happening, for picks. Then use that/those pick(s) in the trade to get back into the 1st. I wouldnt want to package any current picks, but if we acquire extra picks, then I say do it.

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by bflo on Apr 7, 2010 1:46 PM EDT reply actions

I voted yes if they think he’s worth the 20th pick.

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by MattRichWarren on Apr 7, 2010 3:04 PM EDT reply actions

I vote no because with as many holes as there are on this team they really shouldn’t be trading up for anyone.

by tm on Apr 7, 2010 4:05 PM EDT reply actions

If they think he’s a franchise signal caller they absolutely should trade up for him.

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by MattRichWarren on Apr 8, 2010 1:41 PM EDT up reply actions

I voted no

I think there are too many other holes to fill to give up picks, especially in this years loaded draft.

by kelly502 on Apr 7, 2010 5:48 PM EDT reply actions

i ratter have quinn then clausen

i think quinn a better qb then clausen i perfer dan lefavour better mvp bowl games

by KRH60 on Apr 7, 2010 8:07 PM EDT reply actions

I voted no........Build-build-build..............

Trent Dilfer won the Super Bowl didn’t he? The stupid Jets made it to the AFC title game with a good team they built and a rookie.
Do I need to say anything else?

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by SERGEANT MAJOR THOR on Apr 7, 2010 8:13 PM EDT reply actions

+1

by TexasBillsFanatic on Apr 8, 2010 7:04 AM EDT up reply actions

Do I need to say anything else?

How about the fact that Dilfer’s Ravens were never consistent winners, and the Jets will be in the same boat if Sanchez doesn’t get much better?

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by Brian Galliford on Apr 8, 2010 8:18 AM EDT up reply actions

I love when people make the Trent Dilfer argument. 44 Super Bowl champions and people choose one outlier and base their entire belief on how to run an NFL franchise off of it.

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by Jon Harrington on Apr 8, 2010 8:51 AM EDT up reply actions

LOL, yup. I mean, for real – Brian Billick replaced Dilfer with ELVIS GRBAC after ONE SUPER BOWL YEAR. I think that says WAY more than one Super Bowl ring.

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by Brian Galliford on Apr 8, 2010 8:57 AM EDT up reply actions

Lol yup. Good point.

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by Jon Harrington on Apr 8, 2010 9:40 AM EDT up reply actions

ha, I got to agree. I know he didn't win but look at some of the worst SB,

QB’s , Rex Grossman, Jeff Hostetler, Trent Dilfer, I wonder the others.

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by SouthBuffaloNDgrad on Apr 8, 2010 12:16 PM EDT up reply actions

you could add

Brad Johnson and Mark Rypien to the winning list too….the perennial winners do have stars behind center…you have to agree with that point.

by NHBillzFan on Apr 8, 2010 12:55 PM EDT up reply actions

Oh yea, my wish is we find our QB of the future soon, I'm not sure who it should be though.

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by SouthBuffaloNDgrad on Apr 8, 2010 2:46 PM EDT up reply actions

not sure what to think

In a way it wouldn’t be bad because we are landing a top LT or another position of need and still getting our franchise quarterback, but if CHIX really believes he is the qb of the future and sold on him why would you pass on him at 9 and risk losing him or having to give up a lot to try and trade back in the first round to land him? It wouldn’t make sense to me if they believe he is their guy I think they take him at 9 and maybe try to trade back in the first round for a good LT that may fall much like Michael Oher did last yr not the other way around because the Tackle position is much deeper this year than the QB position (and just for the record I’d rather see the Bills get Tebow than Clausen but I really wouldn’t be upset if they took Clausen just prefer Tebow is all)

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by panekattack on Apr 7, 2010 10:23 PM EDT reply actions

I doubt they will pass on Clausen if he’s there at #9 unless there is a much better player available like Okung. Passing on him for, say, Dan Williams would be a bit too much of a reach in my eyes.

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by UZ on Apr 8, 2010 2:30 AM EDT reply actions