The Bills should be thrilled to have Notre Dame’s Jimmy Clausen drop into their laps but word is they may not take him even if he is available. In fact, there are plenty of rumblings that Buffalo could opt for Florida’s Tim Tebow with this pick! For now I am going to give Buffalo the benefit of the doubt and assume they are smart enough to realize that passing on Clausen would be a monumental mistake.
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Clausen
Has the date of Clausen’s visit with Buffalo been announced anywhere yet?
Just say no...to Trent Edwards at QB.
he just said in an interview with McShay on ESPN
that he is heading to Buffalo very soon. Not sure what that means.
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It means McShay has naked pics of George W. Bodenheimer
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McShay gave him the time of day? That’s surprising…
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by Brian Galliford on Apr 9, 2010 12:55 PM EDT up reply actions
McShay’s an absolute jackass…none bigger in the entire sports media and that’s saying a lot.
"We want Jimmy. We want Jimmy." -a scene from "Hoosiers" (and does Chan Gailey sort of resemble Coach Norman Dale a little?)
bill simmons still wins
for the jackass in media award
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by silverstreak3k on Apr 9, 2010 1:21 PM EDT up reply actions
couldn't argue with Simmons
Fortunately, he’s easy to avoid and I haven’t read him since 2003 or so. McShay on the other hand is EVERYWHERE this time of year and can’t be avoided if you enjoy watching sports on TV or listening to sports on the radio or reading about sports on the internet…He’s the worst at least from February through April…year round, I’ll nominate the Mikes on ESPN or Peter King…90% of the Football Night in America cast on NBC are on my list too, but like Simmons, they’re easy enough to avoid.
"We want Jimmy. We want Jimmy." -a scene from "Hoosiers" (and does Chan Gailey sort of resemble Coach Norman Dale a little?)
it is preposterous
that NBC uses the same guy for Football Night in America as they do for their hateful political program anchor. Itd be the equivalent of FOX letting Sean Hannity do football games. Its just stupid.
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by poz on Apr 9, 2010 7:30 PM EDT up reply actions
I’m nodding in total agreement here.
"We want Jimmy. We want Jimmy." -a scene from "Hoosiers" (and does Chan Gailey sort of resemble Coach Norman Dale a little?)
the worst part is
as you noted, they surround him with guys like Tiki Barber which makes it even harder to watch.
"you just have to know there's always going to be adversity. None of these games are going to be easy. Nothing will be given to us" - Paul Posluszny
Well in Tiki's case
probably not much longer….
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I don't even know who that is
but from what you are saying, I think I am glad for this. By the way, love Hannity, but I agree people like that need to stick to their respective areas.
Except Sean Hannity didn’t work at the worldwide leader for years.
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by MattRichWarren on Apr 10, 2010 9:35 AM EDT up reply actions
doesnt change anything
I couldnt care less about his credentials. He spends every day as an anchor for a show where he mocks and de-grades other people because they dont share his beliefs. He doesnt belong on football night.
"you just have to know there's always going to be adversity. None of these games are going to be easy. Nothing will be given to us" - Paul Posluszny
But it’s not like Sean Hannity has a background in it. Olberman does. Sean Hannity’s background is as a general contractor (Wikipedia – best possible information) so it would be like Hannity moonlighting as a bartender one night a week. As long as he doesn’t spout political stuff on FNIA (or while bartending) I’m OK with the job he does. But then again, I can separate the opinions on his talk show from what he does on his football broadcasts.
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by MattRichWarren on Apr 10, 2010 1:30 PM EDT up reply actions
I love Simmons, anyway, Mark May & McShay I hate, both ND haters, also I have no beef with NFL guys, they never talk about the Bills,
maybe Sullivan from The Buffalo News.
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by SouthBuffaloNDgrad on Apr 9, 2010 3:11 PM EDT up reply actions
Mark May is so annoying… Im with ya there.
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Way more, Lou is an icon.
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by SouthBuffaloNDgrad on Apr 10, 2010 12:29 AM EDT up reply actions
and a magician
"Its always Miller Time
Whens it gonna be Sabres-Offense Time?"
- by Jsz on Mar 3, 2010 6:25 PM PST
and a doctor
(seriously is that lil dr thing a way to make fun of him without him knowing?)
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by silverstreak3k on Apr 10, 2010 2:13 PM EDT up reply actions
it was weird to see them together
I cant imagine what Clausen said to him off camera.
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by poz on Apr 9, 2010 1:22 PM EDT up reply actions
I know people will forever debate the merits of clausen vs. tebow etc. If we take a tackle in the first round and tebow in the second, ill deal with it. if we skip clausen in the first round and take another qb in later rounds, i won’t like it, but i’ve been waiting 15 years for a good qb, ill wait longer. But if we pick tebow instead of clausen in the first round, i’m going to put team names into a hat and become a fan of someone else.
At this point we’re all just basing this stuff on opinions, there’s no need for melodrama. My feeling is that I just don’t see the kind of separation between the top tier QBs (Bradford, Clausen, McCoy) and the guys who will be around later in the draft to warrant a 1st rd pick, let alone a Niner.
i meant, its with a touch of sarcasm, but i wouldn’t call it melodrama.
All i know is, i was four years old and i remember the bills playing the giants in the super bowl. I grew up around all the glory moments. And for the rest of the formative years of my life, the bills have been nothing but a mismanaged disaster. Taking tim tebow is not a disaster, but if he’s taken in the first round with our current needs and with clausen still on the board, that is a MONUMENTAL misstep…and just another in a line of countless ones.
by quantumuprising on Apr 9, 2010 12:27 PM EDT up reply actions
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by quantumuprising on Apr 9, 2010 12:27 PM EDT up reply actions
Because he’s not a Top 10 talent.
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by Brian Galliford on Apr 9, 2010 10:00 AM EDT up reply actions
agreed! It smells of Whitner.
I got nothing.
by Jason from OH-IO on Apr 9, 2010 1:07 PM EDT up reply actions
Ha, well, almost. At least some people are predicting this one will happen; gives fans a little forewarning. :)
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by Brian Galliford on Apr 9, 2010 1:10 PM EDT up reply actions
one thing i’ve learned is never, ever beleive any of these pre-draft reports
We got the tools, We got the talent
Well, I grew up watching the Bisons back when they were the farm club for the great 90s Indians team so I am a huge fan of the Tribe to this day. Like the Bills, they are now in a rebuild. However I know lots of western NYers are yanks fans. ugh.
My first baseball and basketball games...
The Indians and Cavs are the only MLB and NBA teams I will even watch… and it’s not like I’ll put an investment into them.
Other than that, I could care less that those pro sports even existed. The college levels are interesting, but the pro setup is just stupid. I dislike the NBA less than MLB, but still, could care less.
I love playing baseball and basketball as sports, but hate watching them because they both seem meaningless and inflated at the pro level.
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by NeverendingOptimism on Apr 9, 2010 11:53 AM EDT up reply actions
As opposed to the rest of the year when we spend hours on a Buffalo Bills site?
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by MattRichWarren on Apr 10, 2010 9:36 AM EDT up reply actions
I wonder if people are just guessing theyre uninterested in Clausen because the entire media world loves to discuss Tebow. I see Clausen’s stock rising quite a bit the next 2 weeks.
I’m beginning to get beyond his attitude concerns. I know next to nothing about him, outside of youtube video, so it’s not fair for me to dismiss his ability to help the Bills.
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by TheAfghanTwilight on Apr 9, 2010 10:40 AM EDT up reply actions
agreed
Nix can’t be that stupid, if Claussen falls to us we must take him.
Rome wasn't built in a day but there was a plan.
Tebow will be a better QB in the long run and fits the city of Buffalo better
(as I turn up the heat to HIGH……)
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How, do you have some info that I don't? I see it the other way around,
Clausen will be a QB in 5 years, and Tebow will be an H-Back, or backup QB, IMO, that’s just me. I feel if were picking between the two, it’s a no-brainer @ 9, who the QB that should be taken at that point. I think Buffalo likes Clausen, if the media thinks were going Tebow, it could be to scare other teams, and see if we get Clausen to fall to 9, then have the choice of choosing who the Bills want.
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by SouthBuffaloNDgrad on Apr 9, 2010 12:11 PM EDT up reply actions
ha, I figured.
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by SouthBuffaloNDgrad on Apr 9, 2010 12:29 PM EDT up reply actions
Joe, put your Merlin away!
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by TheAfghanTwilight on Apr 9, 2010 2:16 PM EDT up reply actions
Opinion
Ever read/hear a pre-draft report on Heath Shuler, Tim Couch, David Carr, Brady Quinn, or Joey Harrington? They were all supposed to be studs. Can’t miss prospects.
Ever read/hear a pre-draft report on Tony Romo, Tom Brady, Brett Favre, Drew Brees, Kurt Warner, Rich Gannon, Brad Johnson, or Jake Delhomme? Marginal prospects or prospects with major concerns.
There’s no way that anyone can accurate say anyone should pick Clausen over Tebow, or vice versa.
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ding ding ding
we have a winner!
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by silverstreak3k on Apr 9, 2010 1:12 PM EDT up reply actions
Joe, you and I normally see things eye2eye but not this one! I certainly don’t agree that he’ll be better than Claussen but I do agree that his character fits the city.
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I am just screwing with you....who knows which QB will be better
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That was fun!!!!
Let me see if I can find where to stir up some more!!!!
(using my most “evil” smirk)
Yes, it was all your fault, I bit on that bait though.
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by SouthBuffaloNDgrad on Apr 9, 2010 12:30 PM EDT up reply actions
Hey....
Laughter is good this time of the year!!! With 13 days to go, things are sure to get tense between all of us since we all obviously have our preferences… I’m personally done with the arguing at least till a couple days prior to the draft….
But it’s sure fun to stir a little now and then….:)
I can see a couple of things happening....
first, Clausen may very well be gone. If not the Browns or Seahawks (not sure I buy Whitehurst as the long term solution there) pass on Clausen, the I can see Oakland taking him at 8 and finally biting the bullet on the failures of Jamarcus Russell. Even if they kept both QBs, its the Raiders and its an uncapped year, so I don’t think they care what happens financially.
Therefore the Bills may not have to worry… if Clausen is there at 9, I bet the bills take him, especailly if 4 OTs have just been taken.
If we take Tebow at 9, we are either the smartest team in the NFL, or we have officially become the Raiders
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I think Seattle is going to exhaust the Whitehurst experiment before the mix the water with another QB.
I’m with you on Cleveland. I just don’t see how that organization could pick a corner so early on when they really don’t have a long-term solution at QB. What good comes from stopping the opposing QB if your own guy is handing the ball back every 3rd series? Dare I say their situation at QB may be worse than the Bills?
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by TheAfghanTwilight on Apr 9, 2010 10:46 AM EDT up reply actions
if delhomme isn’t a vet seat warmer, than I don’t know what is. Cleveland, might even swap their pick for first and take Bradford for all I know, and then St. Louis could take clausen at 5 or whereever that pick came from… it wouldn’t be all together unrealistic (although Bradford is taylor-made for a dome, and Clausen would be better in Cleveland, even if the dawg pound might have to be put to sleep if another ND QB flops in the second saddest Lake Erie city [guess the first])
It is Brohm’s Bills jersey that is the least stained with doo-doo... GO BILLS
In my world, he’d be warming the bench before he even signed with the team. I wonder if he’s much more use to a team than Mark Brunell is at this point in his career.
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by TheAfghanTwilight on Apr 9, 2010 11:07 AM EDT up reply actions
don't think so
delhomme was clearly just a back up plan… Holmgren wants a QB… he has to. He is picking too high, has a pretty good OL, and besides Spiller, a QB is a huge need for that offense. (Hell, he should trade everything he has, and just take Clausen, Dex Bryant, and CJ SPiller… wouldn’t that be nice for the Browns)
But in all seriousness, i never saw Delhomme as someone that would answer the bell for cleveland… unless they want someone else, like Tebow, McCoy, or one of the mid round guys. Holmgren knows what he wantrs as I see him as a man of conviction. I almost like him and Mangini over there, as I think mangini is young enough, but man enough to listen to the Holmgren
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delhomme was clearly just a back up plan
Pretty expensive “backup” plan I would think, at 7 mill for 2 yrs…
thats not that expensive
3.5 a year for a very seasoned back up that might have to start half the year? come on… its a cheap insurance plan
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It was for 2 years
and $12.4 M, with $7M guaranteed….
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even still
to me, money is irrelevent when you are trying to put a winner on the field, and if Holmgren feels strongly about a QB prospect in this year’s draft, he’ll pull the trigger. although, since Ive heard next year’s class is stronger then he could wait and build a team around the QB, let delhomme get on last season at glory and then draft the best QB he can next season
It is Brohm’s Bills jersey that is the least stained with doo-doo... GO BILLS
Oh I agree
That contract and Delhomme’s presence won’t prevent Cleveland from drafting a QB in the top 10.
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And the fact that Holmgrem went on record saying he wished he liked claussen more just makes me think that he actually does like him. There was no reason to say anything at all, but yet he did.
Rome wasn't built in a day but there was a plan.
Those wonderful experts think he want McCoy.
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by TheAfghanTwilight on Apr 9, 2010 1:53 PM EDT up reply actions
If that was a smoke screen, that was the most ridiculously obvious smoke screen in the history of mankind. Like when a little girl smacks the crap out of the little boy she has a crush on.
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by Brian Galliford on Apr 9, 2010 1:56 PM EDT up reply actions
You know what helps with that?
ha, I love him in that movie.
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by SouthBuffaloNDgrad on Apr 9, 2010 4:45 PM EDT up reply actions
Or she pushes him in the mud and then he grows up to be a soldier in the Iraqi army???
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by MattRichWarren on Apr 10, 2010 9:38 AM EDT up reply actions
Cinga, Vick is scheduled to make 5 million coming off a season where he lit the world on fire with 13 pass attempts.
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by TheAfghanTwilight on Apr 9, 2010 1:51 PM EDT up reply actions
Wow, about 450 K per throw, I would love that job.
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by SouthBuffaloNDgrad on Apr 9, 2010 2:02 PM EDT up reply actions
Or 385 K, to be precise. I guesstameted before.
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by SouthBuffaloNDgrad on Apr 9, 2010 2:04 PM EDT up reply actions
I don’t know that Vick will see a ton of that money. I think he’s in some considerable debt from all that happened.
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by TheAfghanTwilight on Apr 9, 2010 2:14 PM EDT up reply actions
Very good point. He's in debt for a while.
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by SouthBuffaloNDgrad on Apr 9, 2010 2:19 PM EDT up reply actions
Clausen falling
What teams that pick later than Buffalo may be interested in trading up to get Clausen if he falls to #9 (if any)?
I think many of us said trading down would be the best option since we have so many needs. I would love to trade out of #9 and still get Dan Williams or even Tebow later in the first while adding another pick or two in subsequent rounds.
not a bad idea... who would want him most lkely?
San Fran? They have two picks to deal if so…
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I can see San Fran going for Clausen. I thought for sure they’d land McNabb.
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by TheAfghanTwilight on Apr 9, 2010 10:47 AM EDT up reply actions
Why would we trade down if he fell to us, though? That’s the entire point Scott Wright is making.
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by Brian Galliford on Apr 9, 2010 10:21 AM EDT up reply actions
if we didn't want him
of course the point is, the same point you’ve been making, is that it would be idiotic not to want him…. I’d say at the very least, you certainly want Clausen in a Bills uni if he’s there at 9… no question, right?
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I’d say at the very least, you certainly want Clausen in a Bills uni if he’s there at 9… no question, right?
I will state it plainly now, for the first time: if Jimmy Clausen is available at No. 9, I would be severely disappointed if Buffalo passed on him, regardless of who was available.
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by Brian Galliford on Apr 9, 2010 11:09 AM EDT up reply actions 3 recs
Ut oh… its out ladies and gentlemen…
I feel similar. Theres other players that I would consider there, but if Clausen is there… OBD would have to do a veeery good job of convincing me Clausen wasnt the right pick there.
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They'd have to convince me of a good reason
why they didn’t spring to the podium with Clausen’s name on the index card in that scenario….
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by TheAfghanTwilight on Apr 9, 2010 1:57 PM EDT up reply actions
More like, who's the top Buckeye DB, oh yeah that regime is finished.
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by SouthBuffaloNDgrad on Apr 9, 2010 2:04 PM EDT up reply actions
They did set the team up nicely to defend the pass. We gave that regime a hell of a time about the CB-heavy drafting, but when Tom Brady is lighting you up, I think there’s merit to drafting heavy at the position.
Now it’s time for this team to attack Brady, rather than defend against him!
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by TheAfghanTwilight on Apr 9, 2010 2:13 PM EDT up reply actions
if you were here...
the last couple years, I half expected the McKelvin pick, but when we drafted Corner, I was throwing things at my wife and dog…. Then last year, I really nutted up with the Byrd pick… Threw my wife at the dog!!!! Finally got the ball bat out for the Harris and Lankster picks….
I completely agree with you on this one
I believe this to be smoke screens. I can’t see how Nix would pass up the chance to draft such an NFL ready QB.
Even if Bulaga would drop to us at #9, if Claussen is there we should take him. The only caveat would be if Okung would drop to us but even then, I wouldn’t be disappointed to get Claussen.
Somehow, I suspect Claussen won’t make it to us. I think there are many teams that are “smoke screening” teams like Seattle & Cleveland especially. People forget how much Carroll tried to recruit Claussen. He is a huge Claussen fan. Whitehurst or not, I would be surprised that the Seahawks pass on Claussen at #6
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by MattRichWarren on Apr 10, 2010 9:40 AM EDT up reply actions
Already Mentally Preparing
I’m so preparing myself for the Tebow at 9 pick. I can already visualize Goodell at the podium uttering the words followed by the oohs aahs and laughs from the crowd.
Really I don’t have to prepare too much, it won’t be a new feeling. I’ve felt it before. When we picked Whitner, when I found out we hired Nix, when I found out we hired Gailey etc, etc…
And like everything else I’ll find a way to get behind it because I always do.
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Nobody pays attention to the Buffalo Bills. It won’t matter who they pick, they’re largely irrelevant in the eyes of NFL fans.
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by TheAfghanTwilight on Apr 9, 2010 1:58 PM EDT up reply actions
haha ESPN will go to commercial during our pick.
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by MattRichWarren on Apr 10, 2010 9:40 AM EDT up reply actions
I wouldn't be opposed to Tebow at 9
But if we pass on Clausen for him, I will be floored.
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that's logical I guess
one of the best college players ever you could say deserves to be picked in the top 10
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Exactly. Too many analysts are putting too much stock in mechanics, for me. The guy wins, and I think will help an inept offense do the same thing in the NFL.
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by TheAfghanTwilight on Apr 9, 2010 10:48 AM EDT up reply actions
Except he needs to play a completely new style to him
involving those new mechanics. He absolutely does need to refine his mechanics, footwork and recognition. Those simply cannot be overlooked because he was a college winner.
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Also the fact that he is a southpaw...
RT becomes LT, Strong side becomes Weak Side, SE becomes FL etc. etc…
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by NeverendingOptimism on Apr 9, 2010 11:45 AM EDT up reply actions
Yes. College isn't the NFL, not even the SEC.
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by SouthBuffaloNDgrad on Apr 9, 2010 12:18 PM EDT up reply actions
so we can stop with the NFL-ready QB and NFL-style offense talk, right?
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Umm..yea, your the one that brought it up.
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by SouthBuffaloNDgrad on Apr 9, 2010 4:46 PM EDT up reply actions
Absolutely K. I guess i’m saying that I think Tebow’s a guy that will “get it.” Sure it’s interesting that almost no one talks about Tebow’s mechanical ability to be a successful QB, but if he proves a great student, I think he goes far. I don’t know if his throwing motion has to change, but he most certainly needs to be able to read and attack a defense from under center.
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by TheAfghanTwilight on Apr 9, 2010 2:01 PM EDT up reply actions
I would
Only because I think someone would trade for the #9 and we could still get Tebow later & pick up another mid-late round pick.
Perhaps
But it’s no guarantee.
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True
I’m not saying drop to the bottom of round 1. I’m thinking drop to around 20, take him there, and hopefully pick up a 5 or 6 to help out with line/linebacker depth. Do you think it’s pretty safe he might be there at 20?
I could live with Tebow then, but only if Clausen is gone first.
I don't think it's safe necessarily
Is it pretty likely? I guess. But if one team has fallen in love with Tebow, that’s all it takes. SF has two picks in that time, they could very well use one on Tebow. Jacksonville has always been a rumored destination for him. Seattle could take him. Somebody could trade back ahead of us for him. You just never know. If the Bills really, really like him, they would probably be wise to take him instead of taking the chances of him not being available later on…..
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I guess you’re right. I didn’t think about it that way. People will say it’s a reach & scoff, but I guess if Nix is sold on Tebow, it’s not worth the gamble playing around. I guess I just have a problem justifying a #9 for him, but only time will tell. Not to mention I think the Bills could use all the picks they can get.
I think the Patriots are the biggest threat to steal Tebow.
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by TheAfghanTwilight on Apr 9, 2010 2:01 PM EDT up reply actions
I think you're right
But I think Tebow would hate playing for the Patriots, and I wouldn’t expect him to spend much free time in Boston.
You've got a point there...
cause he certainly wouldn’t cheat, prolly putting him in the head cheaters doghouse…..:-)
You may be Kurupt but....
my thoughts exactly!! I have come to the conclusion (from a lot of reading, etc.) that the “The Pickle” would be a good choice for Buffalo. If he is gone by #9, we have to get Tebow.
Love potion #9…..
Love those Bills but we're tired of losing......
i wont
just means nix sees what you dont.
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by silverstreak3k on Apr 9, 2010 12:57 PM EDT up reply actions
…
So, would you be equally floored if Nix did take Clausen?
What?
I’m confused. It seems like you’re calling K out there.
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by Brian Galliford on Apr 9, 2010 12:58 PM EDT up reply actions
i wont be floored
unless chiz takes riley cooper with the number 9 pick. in other words anyone thats a 1-2 rounds prospect will not “floor” me if chix picks them over anyone else. it just means chix likes what they saw, and saw things that we as fans did not.
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by silverstreak3k on Apr 9, 2010 1:01 PM EDT up reply actions
Joe – leave the “chiz” alone. :)
And that makes more sense. Gracias.
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by Brian Galliford on Apr 9, 2010 1:02 PM EDT up reply actions
tebow is one of those players
where its easy to get him later on though…. If the Bills could manage to trade down at all I would bet Tebow is still around, if not? grab Kindle/Hughes and then settle another need with teh pick you grabbed
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by uPitt_BillsFan on Apr 9, 2010 5:04 PM EDT up reply actions
I'll say this:
I’d be extremely excited if Buffalo was afforded the opportunity to choose between Clausen and Tebow. I’d also be very happy with either player.
I think it comes down to how they want the offense to work and how hands-on they want to be as coaches. Clausen will obviously require less polish before he attempts to run the holiday table, Tebow is an unwritten, line-less journal.
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by TheAfghanTwilight on Apr 9, 2010 10:38 AM EDT reply actions
Unless they play eenie-meenie with their cards, or someone takes up the wrong card! Hilarity at its finest.
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by TheAfghanTwilight on Apr 9, 2010 2:23 PM EDT up reply actions
I've been saying this to my friends for the last two weeks:
passing on Clausen would be a monumental mistake.
"It took twenty five years to get there, and they did it in championship style" - Van Miller 1/20/91.
Teams will regret for years to come if they pass on Jimmy Clausen. For Buddy Nix, Chan Gailey and the Buffalo Bills’ sake, I hope we don’t make that huge mistake. The guy has a strong arm, is very accurate, has been very productive at a college that uses the Pro-style offense we know in the NFL, is very mentally tough and is simply a winner that gets the job done no matter the circumstances (horrible O-line, crappy defense).
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by BillsfanfromDenmark on Apr 9, 2010 11:09 AM EDT reply actions
Just wait for it
There’s a part of your comment that could cause a number of people to respond telling you how wrong you are….
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by Kurupt on Apr 9, 2010 11:24 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Strong Arm
Clausen does not have a strong arm. His arm strength is above average for the position. However, Clausen gains all of his arm strength through technique. He really has to overexaggerate his body into proper position to go deep. It’s not natural strength. Guys like Kelly and Bledsoe used natural strength in the hips, legs and torso to put torque on the ball.
Clausen may have issues putting velocity on the football in Buffalo winds.
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Clausen does not have a strong arm. His arm strength is above average for the position
If his arm is above average for a position (QB) that is measured by how well one throws the football (i.e. every NFL QB has pretty good arm to begin with since they are in the freakin’ NFL) how could this above average rm not also be a strong one. Not to mention, throwing is like punching, and the power comes less from the arm, and more from the technique, if his technique is good and gives him arm strength, then he has not only a strong arm, but great mechanics… and therefore is good at throwing the football and has a very good chance of being a good football
Clausen may have issues putting velocity on the football in Buffalo winds.
As does just about every QB, and i think he’d do fine actually
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Throwing is not like punching
Velocity comes from legs, hips and torso. That’s where the torque is generated.
Velocity can also be generated by technique, but it’s less reliable since mechanics tend to breakdown or get shortened under pressure.
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Velocity comes from legs, hips and torso. That’s where the torque is generated.
so does punching power
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Then you're mistaken on your original comment
Not to mention, throwing is like punching, and the power comes less from the arm, and more from the technique,
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isn’t that technique… how your body moves in conjunction with the arm?
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Technique is placement of feet, shoulder angle, arm position
Guys like Bledsoe and Kelly had strong a strong lower body, and could power into throws regardless of technique.
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I firmly disagree.
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by BillsfanfromDenmark on Apr 9, 2010 12:06 PM EDT up reply actions
OK
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I quote Mike Mayock from today’s workout in South Bend commenting on Clausen: ""I saw everything I needed to see," Mayock said. “He had a strong arm. Good accuracy. I saw what I expected to see.”
When arguably the most respected scouting expert in the country comes and says he has a “strong arm”, I’ll believe it.
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by BillsfanfromDenmark on Apr 9, 2010 3:30 PM EDT up reply actions
I said above average and I'll stand by that
Something to consider: where did Clausen throw the ball? It wasn’t outside.
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You know what, it's in the mid-40's, sunny, and like a 10 mph winds, not awful conditions.
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by SouthBuffaloNDgrad on Apr 9, 2010 4:48 PM EDT up reply actions
He threw indoors
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I know, so what? I'm going with Mr. Denmark on this one,
I’ll take Mayock’s opinion over yours on Clausens arm strength, not to discount your opinion, he;s slighly more qualified.
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by SouthBuffaloNDgrad on Apr 9, 2010 5:19 PM EDT up reply actions
Mayock rates Clausen at #20
JPP is 10 and Trent Williams is 11. Works for me.
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Fair Enough
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It depends. Because strong is relative. Strong compared to who? The other players in the drafft or the 25ish locks to be NFL starters next year?
I actually disagree with Jaeger because I would never call Clausen’s arm strong or above average. Compared to the better arms in the NFL, Clausen is very, very average. You know that I’ve been a Clausen fan and supporter from the get go, but I think his one weakness is that his arm is just OK and his deep balls are total rainbows.
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Don’t people say Favre doesn’t have a strong arm, that it’s his chest and back muscles that truly power this passes? I guess if a guy who’s now 40 can throw the ball with that much velocity, and have it come from complementary muscles, i’d be okay with someone else making a living that way.
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by TheAfghanTwilight on Apr 9, 2010 2:25 PM EDT up reply actions
Good point. The old gunslinger has a rocket for an arm and he puts his entire body behind every single throw.
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by Jon Harrington on Apr 9, 2010 2:33 PM EDT up reply actions
Clausen and Favre generate velocity in far different ways
Favre is a freak of nature. I can think of no other quarterback that can consistently put velocity on the football while backpedaling.
Comparing anyone to Favre is like comparing a pass rusher to Bruce Smith. I’ve never seen a pash rusher able to coordinate their hands and feet the way Smith did. So, trying to compare a pass rusher to Bruce Smith is folly, because almost no one’s ever been like him.
Same thing with Favre. Not even Elway could throw the ball like Favre in terms of putting velocity on the ball when footwork wasn’t ideal.
Clausen puts velocity on the ball through proper technique. My biggest concern with Clausen is that he’ll lose velocity when rushed or on the move, particularly in the wind.
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He threw a lot on the run though, while playing for Weis, a lot of rollouts, but yea he prolly loses some velocity.
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by SouthBuffaloNDgrad on Apr 9, 2010 2:51 PM EDT up reply actions
Somewhat disagree
Weis’ offense calls for half rolls more than full rollouts. The QB, unless under pressure, has the ability to reset his feet on the half roll.
Very similar to what Tom Brady did circa 2001-2005.
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He can't win by himself, football is a 11 man game, look at the Gators drafted vs. the 2-3 ND players that get drafted.
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by SouthBuffaloNDgrad on Apr 9, 2010 12:23 PM EDT up reply actions
still dont buy that argument
but you keep throwing it out there. i will take this time to remind everyone that ND has been in the top 25 if not 10 in recruiting for every year clausen was there and the years prior. and also would like people to see the wr talent clausen had last year compared to tebow.
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by silverstreak3k on Apr 9, 2010 12:59 PM EDT up reply actions
Ok, the year before, Tebow had Harvin & Loius Murphy, and Gonz @ TE.
Anyway, it’s a true argument, and as much as I love Weis as a recruiter, he couldn’t develop talent. I don’t want to hear the he could only win with Willinghams recruits, if you throw that out, you have no idea what happened at ND during that time. Ty Will wasn’t playing Samardzija and was slowly ruining Quinns career before Weis came in. Also, Quinn will always be a Tyrone recriut, but he came on a visit to ND with Ndukwe (safety with Cinci) and they were best friends and Quinn came with him on C N visit and then finally the Irish got a commintment from Quinn, they never recruited him. Ty, was to busy playing the beautiful course @ ND (British Links style) than he spent recruiting. That’s why he got fired.
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by SouthBuffaloNDgrad on Apr 9, 2010 1:08 PM EDT up reply actions
i dont know why you spent most of that comment
talking about quinn…weis had the talent, maybe he was a terrible coach, or maybe clausen simply wants good enough to win against those team with the talent he had. you left out tebows wrs from last year which were hernandez (not sure where you got gonzo from) and cooper (a 5th round talent). and he still managed to win 13 games and throw for almost 3000 yards….
great players make it happen. mediocre ones dont. but like i have said before i wont be shocked when they take him, and i wont “stop rooting for the bills” like so many other melodramatic people.
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by silverstreak3k on Apr 9, 2010 1:11 PM EDT up reply actions
Ok, so Hernandez and Cooper vs. Golden.
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by SouthBuffaloNDgrad on Apr 9, 2010 1:12 PM EDT up reply actions
haha
nice try. forget about floyd? who put up very similar numbers (off by about 200 yards) in almost half the games?? i would say clausen had the far superior receiving talent
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by silverstreak3k on Apr 9, 2010 1:16 PM EDT up reply actions
Ok, I would say that Tebow had far superior talent on the OL.
What’s more important OL or WR/TE’s. Also, Tate, Floyd, & Rudolph played only 4 games together due to injuries, and Floyd & Rudolph were only Sophs.
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by SouthBuffaloNDgrad on Apr 9, 2010 1:22 PM EDT up reply actions
Also, the talent around Clausen was young, it's harder to win playing with 18-20 year olds,
than the Gators who had mostly upperclassmen playing makes a difference. Yea great players make it happen, what happened to them vs. Bama. They had a chance to be a NC, I would never think ND had that chance, if Clausen wasn’t the QB that led four 4th quater comebacks and led ND to 6-6 record not being a 2-10 or 3-9 without him. The Gators prolly would have had the same success with Brantly at QB, IMO. Just because he made one great speach that has a plaque on the wall, Jimmy was the first Junior captain @ ND, voted by the entire team, people that aren’t leaders wouldn’t have that happen.
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by SouthBuffaloNDgrad on Apr 9, 2010 1:19 PM EDT up reply actions
Maybe the Gators find similar success with Brantly at QB, but you have to look at Tebow’s stats. The guy was a fireball of production, and you cannot discount that even if he had superior talent around him. He still needed to complete the circle.
People also say that Tebow won’t find similar success in the NFL because it IS the NFL, and defenses are better. I say that while this is true, offenses are also better and Tebow should have talent around him that is far superior to his college mates.
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by TheAfghanTwilight on Apr 9, 2010 2:06 PM EDT up reply actions
I say he's the Greatest College Player of All-Time, I just don't know how that translates to the NFL.
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by SouthBuffaloNDgrad on Apr 9, 2010 2:08 PM EDT up reply actions
people said he was the greatest high school player of all time
but werent sure if it would translate to the ncaa…
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by silverstreak3k on Apr 9, 2010 2:08 PM EDT up reply actions
Well, maybe he does always live up to his hype.
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by SouthBuffaloNDgrad on Apr 9, 2010 2:12 PM EDT up reply actions
in a year or two, we shall all see
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by silverstreak3k on Apr 9, 2010 2:20 PM EDT up reply actions
Of course, but I just don’t see why Tebow is any more critical a judgement than any other player in this year’s draft. He has just as much opportunity to succeed or fail as the other guys being drafted, imo.
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by TheAfghanTwilight on Apr 9, 2010 2:28 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Tebow won versus Alabama in 2008
Without Harvin and their starting TE.
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the rest of this argument can be seen at the actual article of clausen's pro day
it got shifted to there, but yea i brought up that point too.
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by silverstreak3k on Apr 9, 2010 4:08 PM EDT up reply actions
If you want an example of leadership, feel free to read the recap of the ND-Purdue game here.
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by Jon Harrington on Apr 9, 2010 1:04 PM EDT up reply actions
Thanks Joe, I've told him about that game over 10 times, he's just anti-Clausen.
I mean the kid led a game winning drive with barley playing the whole game, and was money on 4th and Goal.
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by SouthBuffaloNDgrad on Apr 9, 2010 1:09 PM EDT up reply actions
Jon. =)
And I’m not saying Clausen has displayed the same leadership Tebow has, because he hasn’t. But I don’t get the leadership issue claims. He might need a bit of an attitude adjustment – but he’s put his teammates on his back before and produced. I’m not sure what else you’re looking for in a leader.
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by Jon Harrington on Apr 9, 2010 1:12 PM EDT up reply actions
Ha, sorry, that Damn Joey Harrington made me do it.
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by SouthBuffaloNDgrad on Apr 9, 2010 1:13 PM EDT up reply actions
That jerk. Maybe I’ll put up an enormous billboard of myself in Times Square so people don’t get us confused anymore.
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by Jon Harrington on Apr 9, 2010 1:15 PM EDT up reply actions
Just tweeted: Nix, Modrak and several asst. coaches (did not see Gailey) are at ND’s pro day today.
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by Brian Galliford on Apr 9, 2010 11:42 AM EDT reply actions
On Sirius NFL radio, Pat Kirwan was talking about this pro-day in particular, and basically said it is just a formality and those that come to these things already know what they need to know about a player, and the scripted set of throws to a QB’s familiar WRs is not as telling as the tape.
With that said, they may just need reassurance that if he’s there at 9 he’s there’s to be had, but also… probably looking at that ND WR as well
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They want to see his recovery from his toe surgery too
Although it wasn’t a major surgery, it’s still got to be nice to see him throw again.
I wonder if that injury affected him at all this past season….
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ah yes
there was a little ding on him… I’m willing to bet he is all good, and that SI and ESPN will be gushing over him all day… but maybe not
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He looks pretty good. Solid ball placement, polished mechanics. Just going through the motions. I’ve seen one throw that I’d call slightly inaccurate, the rest were right on the money. He’s still throwing.
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by Brian Galliford on Apr 9, 2010 12:11 PM EDT up reply actions
Whoops. Had a couple of deep balls go awry. Same receiver missed two solid throws – dove at the first one, tripped early on the second. Pretty brutal looking on the receiver’s part.
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by Brian Galliford on Apr 9, 2010 12:16 PM EDT up reply actions
Poor kid
Hope it’s not some guy trying to impress scouts….
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That's exactly what happened, poor ole Robby Parris, I always put Parrish from Roscoe.
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by SouthBuffaloNDgrad on Apr 9, 2010 12:40 PM EDT up reply actions
Yea, like I said the WR's aren't getting drafted that were there today.
David Grimes & Robby Parrish, neither were nothing more than #3 WR’s.
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by SouthBuffaloNDgrad on Apr 9, 2010 12:27 PM EDT up reply actions
Just goes to show what poor leadership skills Clausen has.
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ha, yeah Golden didn't want to punch Todd McSay after he said
Clausen isn’t a leader. ; )
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by SouthBuffaloNDgrad on Apr 9, 2010 12:41 PM EDT up reply actions
so.... are you saying..
that Tate took it upon himself to sit this out? And that Clausen didn’t take charge and ask him?
If Clausen was any kind of leader, he would have punched McShay out for Tate
(I think I just broke my stirring spoon)
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Tate was there. He looked great. Check the front page. :)
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by Brian Galliford on Apr 9, 2010 12:56 PM EDT up reply actions
I just watched the whole thing
And he looks very accurate. I think from watching games and the workout, his arm strength seems fine. I would probably put it in the same class as Matt Ryan or Mark Sanchez. There is more than enough arm strength there. As far as the 2 balls I saw hit the ground, Brian’s post was spot on. The only knock I would say against him is it seemed like he was tiring a little. However, he has not been able to condition properly due to the foot injury. I think we would be lucky to have him fall to 9.
by The Irishman on Apr 9, 2010 12:29 PM EDT up reply actions
Where are you watching?
~K
"As the governor of Louisiana once said, the only way Chris Kelsay can lose his job is if he got caught in bed with a dead girl or a live boy."
It was at UND.com, but the workout’s over. My bad.
Thought he looked solid. Not perfect – I doubt you’ll hear the glowing reviews that Bradford got. But really, really solid, and had really nice velocity on all of his throws.
Buffalo Rumblings. On Twitter.
"You miss 100% of the shots you don't take. --Wayne Grezky" --Michael Scott
by Brian Galliford on Apr 9, 2010 12:25 PM EDT up reply actions
that ND WR, who Golden Tate, I haven't seen him yet, it's more the ND WR's that are going
undrafted, like Robby Parrish & David Grimes, I don’t think Golden is their. Not 100 % sure though.
" A wise man once told me, never argue with a fool, becuase from a far, you can't tell who is who" - Jay-Z
by SouthBuffaloNDgrad on Apr 9, 2010 12:25 PM EDT up reply actions
It was Parris that really struggled. Slow out of breaks, couldn’t catch a deep throw to save his life – has trouble tracking and keeping his balance
Buffalo Rumblings. On Twitter.
"You miss 100% of the shots you don't take. --Wayne Grezky" --Michael Scott
by Brian Galliford on Apr 9, 2010 12:26 PM EDT up reply actions
Yea, he's not that great. As you said, I knew he would make Jimmy look bad, jk.
" A wise man once told me, never argue with a fool, becuase from a far, you can't tell who is who" - Jay-Z
by SouthBuffaloNDgrad on Apr 9, 2010 12:28 PM EDT up reply actions
Ha, the Clausen & McShay interview seemed tense for Todd, he looked nervous,
like Golden was going to come out and punch him. Also, Clausen said he’s going to Buffalo soon after today.
" A wise man once told me, never argue with a fool, becuase from a far, you can't tell who is who" - Jay-Z
by SouthBuffaloNDgrad on Apr 9, 2010 12:35 PM EDT up reply actions
I should repeat that, not being drafted by Buffalo, but visiting them.
" A wise man once told me, never argue with a fool, becuase from a far, you can't tell who is who" - Jay-Z
by SouthBuffaloNDgrad on Apr 9, 2010 12:36 PM EDT up reply actions
like Golden was going to come out and punch him.
well i mean that is a legitimate concern…
Buffalo, that's where it's at baby. - Adam 'Pacman' Jones
by silverstreak3k on Apr 9, 2010 1:02 PM EDT up reply actions
no surprises there – i’m also with you on Claussen
We got the tools, We got the talent
by J2 on Apr 9, 2010 11:46 AM EDT up reply actions
I see them…
Buffalo Rumblings. On Twitter.
"You miss 100% of the shots you don't take. --Wayne Grezky" --Michael Scott
by Brian Galliford on Apr 9, 2010 12:11 PM EDT up reply actions
hmmm....
I see them on this page and other story pages, but not when you go to www.buffalorumblings.com
John I.
I see them there, too.
Buffalo Rumblings. On Twitter.
"You miss 100% of the shots you don't take. --Wayne Grezky" --Michael Scott
by Brian Galliford on Apr 9, 2010 12:16 PM EDT up reply actions
Get some sleep John!
~K
"As the governor of Louisiana once said, the only way Chris Kelsay can lose his job is if he got caught in bed with a dead girl or a live boy."
haha... see bflo below, he had the same problem
But whatever was wrong, the problem was corrected very quickly. By the time Brian replied the second time, it was all good again.
I swear, I wasn’t seeing things!! :)
John I.
I was just going to say that… only FanShots are coming up
"Its always Miller Time
Whens it gonna be Sabres-Offense Time?"
- by Jsz on Mar 3, 2010 6:25 PM PST
back up now. There was about a 10-15 min period where it was only Shots tho.
"Its always Miller Time
Whens it gonna be Sabres-Offense Time?"
- by Jsz on Mar 3, 2010 6:25 PM PST
it was there – just swapped places with the fanshots for that window
We got the tools, We got the talent
by J2 on Apr 9, 2010 12:30 PM EDT up reply actions
Sounds like another Todd Marinovich...
Second quarterback to be taken, polished, more than adequate arm, tutored by quarterback gurus for most of his life, been watched since middle school, trouble communicating with teammates, feelings of entitlement, from California…
My thoughts
First off I am willing to give Nix the benefit of the doubt (yeah that’s right!). Whomever he choses better be a winner though. Period. We cannot take a developmental player, other than QB in the first round, and IF we take a quartberback, they better turn out to be a pro-bowl talent. If Nix is uncomfortable with their ability, then DON’T draft them top ten!
My gut says Clausen IS Brady Quinn… My gut also tells me that Tebow will become a pro-bowl caliber QB. I don’t really have much to base this on, but I don’t think either is worthy of a top ten pick right now… If Nix takes it, so be it, but he better be right, no excuses anymore.
I would be MUCH happier taking a LT in the first… Much like I pined over Oher last year. The only one that concerns me is Bulaga, again just a gut feeling.
I don’t care who Nix takes in the first round, I am willing to wait to evaluate, but this guy better see the field significantly this year (other than a QB), and he better be a pro-bowl type player in the near future. This team has way too many holes to develop prospects.
I got nothing.
by Jason from OH-IO on Apr 9, 2010 1:17 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
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