Nix, Modrak Attend Jimmy Clausen's Pro Day
by Brian Galliford on Apr 9, 2010 12:51 PM EDT
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PrintJimmy Clausen, all smiles, worked out today in front of 16 NFL teams at his pro day. In attendance were Buffalo Bills GM Buddy Nix, Director of College Scouting Tom Modrak, and several Bills assistant coaches.
Clausen, who is still recovering from toe surgery and described himself as about 75-80% healthy, completed 57 of 59 passes to receivers Golden Tate, James Aldridge, Robby Parris and David Grimes. Due to the nature of his injury, Clausen did not execute any bootlegs or naked bootlegs, but still looked good moving around, displaying solid footwork. His two incompletions were both on deep throws to Parris; otherwise, Clausen was right on the mark with the vast majority of his throws, looked very polished mechanically, and had nice zip on his throws - the ball really popped in his receivers' hands. This workout won't change anyone's opinion on him, but it served as a nice reminder of just how legitimate his skill set is.
Meanwhile, Tate looked excellent as well. A very smooth route-runner, Tate made some nice catches on outs and deep throws, displayed excellent explosion out of his breaks, and showcased great hands and field awareness. His speed is his greatest asset, and Clausen made sure scouts knew it by lofting a couple of very deep throws and letting Tate go get them.
Clausen's next stop on his tour of NFL facilities will take place in Orchard Park, New York, which will take place this weekend after he heads to Indianapolis for a check-up on his foot. Clausen also has private workouts scheduled with St. Louis and Washington.
Bills interested in David Grimes: An undrafted free agent in 2009, Grimes spent training camp with the Denver Broncos before getting released. He told UND.com that the Bills have expressed interest in signing him.
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No Grimes for me, to small and not fast enough, decent hands.
" A wise man once told me, never argue with a fool, becuase from a far, you can't tell who is who" - Jay-Z
by SouthBuffaloNDgrad on Apr 9, 2010 12:53 PM EDT reply actions
the other comment section closed (i hate when you do that brian)
so i will post my response to your comment here.
i never said they would have the same record with a diff QB. nice touch adding in the 2009 sec champ game, and completely ignoring the 2008 one, you know, the one tebow won without percy harvin and made every throw he had to and led his team against a team that out-ranked them to go on and win th NC. you know, that NC ring that tebow has two of and clausen never got close to? you discount all of his college career achievements because of a plaque on a wall? did you forget that he came through on that promise and won the NC that year? can you imagine the pressure it must have put on him to say all those things, putting the entire loss on his shoulders as well as the outcome of the season? that that speech would have been nothing if he had not walked the walk after putting himself out there like that? maybe ND would have been 2-10 without clausen, and maybe they would have been 13-1 with tebow, no one will know. what we do know is tebow lead his team to a 13-1 record with a talented team, and clausen went 6-6 on a team that many would also call talented (you excluded).
comparing brantley and tebow just shows you have no idea what you are talking about when it comes to UF football. brantley is a great qb and will be great at UF, but he will not bring to the table the same type of play that tebow did. brantley will not be making that 4th and 1 run up the middle that is so hard to get, or scramble 15 yards to get them in FG range. urban has already said he will switch him out with another guy to run certain plays. do you think urban ever thought that he would take tebow out of the game…..ever? brantley will never bring the fire that tebow did.
i dont know why you bring up the leadership comment, obviously clausen is a leader, you dont become the qb of a div 1-a team without being a leader. my response was to you talent remark not the leader remark.
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by silverstreak3k on Apr 9, 2010 1:32 PM EDT up reply actions
Sorry. It was an accident. They’re re-opened.
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by Brian Galliford on Apr 9, 2010 1:33 PM EDT up reply actions
eh its not prob now
i just had that long thought-out response. but now its here so no big deal. i think our discussion is over anyways.
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by silverstreak3k on Apr 9, 2010 1:37 PM EDT up reply actions
Ha. I had a long comment on the other post also, then instead of copy/paste,
I left the comment in cyberspace, and had to shorten the one below, anyway, it might seem I’m agaisnt Tebow, I think he’s the greatest college QB ever, and maybe the greatest college player up with Archie Griffen & “The Rocket”, and I got to say how were their careers, not that great. I don’t want Tebow @ 9, just becuase of other needs, I’m not sure I want Clausen @ 9, it’s one of those situations where if we pick I’ll be happy, but hesitent that his career might not turn out great. Which is why I kind of want to address another position @ 9, I’m not sure, just can’t wait for the damn first round, and anyone going to be able to sleep when we only get the 1st round pick then have to wait another day to see what we do with our 2nd. I think I wont be able too. Anyway, the reason I don’t want Tebow @ 9, were not a great team, where he could sit and wait. Also, look at the careers of Matt Ryan, Stafford, Flacco, none were serious winners, I know Sanchez won at USC, but so did every QB their.
" A wise man once told me, never argue with a fool, becuase from a far, you can't tell who is who" - Jay-Z
by SouthBuffaloNDgrad on Apr 9, 2010 1:48 PM EDT up reply actions
I think if Clausen is there how can we pass on him? He has more skills than any QB we’ve had since Jimbo. I guess everyone can argue that he is a d-bag and all of that but you have to think he is the most ready to play in the pros all because of Charlie Weis. I would be pumped to draft. We don’t have to guarantee he starts, have him battle it out against the rest of the QBs we have to see if he can handle it. It will make all of our QBs better by leaving the competition open. The only beef I would have with the pick is if there an is LT on the board that we like to start from Day 1 at LT and end up picking Clausen. However, I don’t think we’d do that. I would also be very pissed if we picked You-Know-Who at 9. That would be way too much of a reach unless after the pick Nix and Gailey explain how he is exactly the guy they want and all of that, still I’d be skeptical and would expect an amazing draft class for the rest of the draft. Also, I guess I would with hold judgment after that until the preseason and or camp started. But I feel that Nix and Gailey and Whaley and Modrak and everyone in charge will make the correct decision to put our football team in the right path toward winning
I think if Clausen is there how can we pass on him?
Because he’s not a top 10 prospect…. he’s just the 2nd best QB prospect in this year’s draft with maybe the lowest ceiling.
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"If I had to do it all over again, I'd do it all over again."
The not a Top 10 prospect idea is EXTREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEMELY debatable.
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by Brian Galliford on Apr 9, 2010 6:56 PM EDT up reply actions
But he’s far better than any QB we have currently unless you expect Edwards to play like he did in that 5 game stretch playing against basement teams to transform into him playing like a fiend against the best of the best. I’m not sure I do. Therefore that is why I would take Clausen if he is available and the top 4 tackles are gone. I’d go with him or Dan Williams
I think I know about as much as Gator football that you know of ND football, I called for a truce.
" A wise man once told me, never argue with a fool, becuase from a far, you can't tell who is who" - Jay-Z
by SouthBuffaloNDgrad on Apr 9, 2010 1:33 PM EDT up reply actions
i think you are probably right
i know little beyond the 3 games i saw at ND and read online at ESPN and the like. im all for a truce, but like i said, i just want the ant-tebow crowd to tone it down.
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by silverstreak3k on Apr 9, 2010 1:37 PM EDT up reply actions
I agree, I never fully dislike Tebow, I mean my idol of them all (Jimbo Kelly) loves the kid.
Just not sold @ 9. Anyway, yea lets wait to argue after this draft, becuase it’s kind of the most important draft we’ve had in a while, and a real GM this time.
" A wise man once told me, never argue with a fool, becuase from a far, you can't tell who is who" - Jay-Z
by SouthBuffaloNDgrad on Apr 9, 2010 1:50 PM EDT up reply actions
The Draft can't get here soon enough!
I am still in “build the trenches first” camp, but can we really pass on Clausen if he is there at #9 pick.
The golden draft rule, as Brian has stated, is never pass on a potential franchise QB.
However, I just can’t get passed, no pun intended, the philosophy that no QB can throw when he is flat on his back!
I think I am going to get away on Southwest and out of the country until April 22nd ;)
You can’t escape us!
So what are the chances for an Avalanche vs. Sabres finals, eh?
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by UZ on Apr 9, 2010 1:09 PM EDT up reply actions
Sorting what I get from this....
I got nothin’…. JK…
Quite frankly, while Ive never really questioned his arm strength/accuracy, I think this workout can put any thoughts against them to rest… If his toe still is not healed right, obviously it can also affect footwork, and planting to throw as well, and so if he still made all the throws, that part can be good…
Working through injury and making almost every throw with decent footwork? Sounds good to me.
So what are the chances for an Avalanche vs. Sabres finals, eh?
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I hope they have a plan in place to protect whoever plays QB. I think it needs more work than most people around here believe. I’m not sold on Wood returning to form that rapidly, especially needing to learn a new system in his second season…same with Levitre. Bell is a mess, just a mess. Meredith is an unknown, a very raw unknown.
I need to stop…
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by TheAfghanTwilight on Apr 9, 2010 2:50 PM EDT up reply actions
*than most people want to believe.
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by TheAfghanTwilight on Apr 9, 2010 3:04 PM EDT up reply actions
I don't disagree about the OL
I’ll even add fuel to that fire by saying I don’t believe Hangartner or Green are legitimate NFL starters (at best their stopgaps). But with all of that said, drafting an offensive lineman 9th won’t solve this mess…it’s going to take two years minimum. Get the franchise QB in here NOW and let him learn from the bench in 2010, draft 2-3 offensive linemen in this draft and 2-3 in the next one. If Nix and company do their job, they’ll have alegitimate offensive line in place by 2011 with a franchise QB seasoned and ready to make an honest go of it for the opener in 2011.
"We want Jimmy. We want Jimmy." -a scene from "Hoosiers" (and does Chan Gailey sort of resemble Coach Norman Dale a little?)
Bye the time they pick at 9
the best LT’s will be gone and they won’t have a good option for that value to protect him
Theres always next year’s draft. Or better yet, the second round.
The more I see, the less I know.
by CanadianBillsFan on Apr 9, 2010 9:05 PM EDT up reply actions
course they do!!!
when they draft him and Tebow, Clausen will be moved to tackle…
Stir, and add, stir some more….
Tate
I really hope Tate doesn’t end up with the Jets. I think he would be the perfect weapon for a young QB like Sanchez.
"We want Jimmy. We want Jimmy." -a scene from "Hoosiers" (and does Chan Gailey sort of resemble Coach Norman Dale a little?)
I agree with you, I hope he doesn't end up in our division. The Phins & Pats also, no AFC East team can draft him.
Or the Browns or Jags, we seem to play them every season.
" A wise man once told me, never argue with a fool, becuase from a far, you can't tell who is who" - Jay-Z
by SouthBuffaloNDgrad on Apr 9, 2010 1:57 PM EDT up reply actions
Tate might be the exact weapon that turns Sanchez dirty.
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by TheAfghanTwilight on Apr 9, 2010 2:51 PM EDT up reply actions
Rec'd
HAHAHA
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by NorCal BillsFan on Apr 9, 2010 11:24 PM EDT up reply actions
I liked hearing the part about zip on the ball
And the passes popping into receivers hands..Even while still recovering from toe surgery.With Nix and Modrak there I suspect there’s more interest in Clausen that I thought they had.This weekend will sew it up as to whether they take Him at 9 or not, providing of course He’s there..
Never argue with an Idiot,they'll drag You down to their level and beat You with experience every time..
Silver, I had a long truce wrote out on the last post, but we can't comment there anymore,
I was going to say we always have these same arguments, so we can agree to disagree. Can we agree on that point, anyway, lets wait till the draft till we start arguing over who they might pick. Truce? I’ll try not to bite on the anti- Clausen people, I had a nice run going.
" A wise man once told me, never argue with a fool, becuase from a far, you can't tell who is who" - Jay-Z
by SouthBuffaloNDgrad on Apr 9, 2010 1:31 PM EDT reply actions
im not anti-clausen tho
thats my point. i wouldnt be upset if they took clausen. i wrote out a response above. i just wish the anti-tebow crowd could tone it down.
Buffalo, that's where it's at baby. - Adam 'Pacman' Jones
by silverstreak3k on Apr 9, 2010 1:34 PM EDT up reply actions
BTW, if you care, I respect people that stick to their arguments and have well made arguments,
I feel that way about you buddy, you always have a good counter-argument with the QB’s in the draft, same with killascript etc. Anyway, Go Buffalo Bills baby.
" A wise man once told me, never argue with a fool, becuase from a far, you can't tell who is who" - Jay-Z
by SouthBuffaloNDgrad on Apr 9, 2010 1:55 PM EDT up reply actions
same with you
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by silverstreak3k on Apr 9, 2010 2:10 PM EDT up reply actions
Golden Tate
Can anyone else not read this guys name with at least cracking a smile?
-"...Dude, Marshawn, does Tom Brady get hyphy?"
-"What!!?"
I love him as a player, but you want to talk about an arrogant person,
he’s the arrogant person, compared to Clausen (just saying). I’ve met both and Golden was a p.o.s, but whenever he made those great plays I always loved him again. I’ve heard the same thing from women that have dated him (dated, my ass) and talk about how he just promises them the moon and then never calls back. So, he backed up his arrogance with great play, and Clausen always seemed laid back and always had a stable GF.
" A wise man once told me, never argue with a fool, becuase from a far, you can't tell who is who" - Jay-Z
by SouthBuffaloNDgrad on Apr 9, 2010 1:39 PM EDT up reply actions
Kent Brockman had a similar quote years ago.
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by TheAfghanTwilight on Apr 9, 2010 3:02 PM EDT up reply actions
The TV news anchor on “The Simpsons”.
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by WhyBillsWhy on Apr 12, 2010 11:21 AM EDT up reply actions
I remember Elbert "Golden Wheels" Dubenion.
And I still smile about that one,too..
Never argue with an Idiot,they'll drag You down to their level and beat You with experience every time..
If Nix and Modrak are both at the workout, and they’re bringing him to Orchard Park I have a hard time believing that they have no interest in Clausen as Kiper’s sources have apparently been saying.
Same here. Theyre doing your due diligeance (showing up to his pro-day) and then theres showing interest (schedualing a meetin at OBD). Right now we’re showing interest.
The more I see, the less I know.
by CanadianBillsFan on Apr 9, 2010 9:09 PM EDT up reply actions
Just a note, i think i saw the question in another thread;
in Clausen’s interview with McShay he said he was flying to Indy tomorrow for a physical then flying right to Buffalo, so hell be meeting with people either tomorrow night or sunday or monday.
Clausen’s next stop on his tour of NFL facilities will take place in Orchard Park, New York, which will take place this weekend after he heads to Indianapolis for a check-up on his foot.
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by Brian Galliford on Apr 9, 2010 1:48 PM EDT up reply actions
Then he realizes that Buffalo is that much better than South Bend, and he picked SB over L.A.
" A wise man once told me, never argue with a fool, becuase from a far, you can't tell who is who" - Jay-Z
by SouthBuffaloNDgrad on Apr 9, 2010 1:52 PM EDT up reply actions
that really must have been in another thread then.
my b.
by quantumuprising on Apr 9, 2010 2:11 PM EDT up reply actions
CLAUSEN!
The more I see, the less I know.
by CanadianBillsFan on Apr 9, 2010 9:10 PM EDT up reply actions
i will say this
I hated Clausen all of last year, and I’ll admit a lot of my angst and disgust was due to my perception that Clausen would not be a fit for WNY, a franchise like Buffalo, and did not seem to me to be a born leader. I honestly believe that the QB in Buffalo has to be a unique blend of character, personality, passion and holds a competitive fire that cannot be matched. The more and more I have analyzed Clausen, and read opinions from respected football people, the more and more I have bought in to his potential as not only a NFL-starting caliber QB, but also a chance to be a top 15 NFL QB year in and year out.
IMO, the debate in Buffalo’s FO seems to have come down to Tebow vs. Clausen. Who knows what is truth or fallacy at this point in the game, but it seems to me that Gailey and Nix understand that a 4th QB has to be added to the mix, and since it wasn’t McNabb, and Campbell is not the ticket in their eyes, at #9, they must select a future signal caller and start developing him under Gailey’s system.
We can talk ad nauseum about the Clausen v. Tebow debate as its fun, controversial and opinions are so strong on either side. For me it’s Clausen’s leadership and ability to make players better and for Tebow it’s simply his throwing motion and ultimately can he be accurate in the NFL game? I’m struggling to find where I stand on this. I want to sift through all the hoopla and so called “media experts” and find the real truth. That is why I think Nix is the perfect man for this job. The pressure is on, this decision is paramount in the future of the Bills, WNY football and Ralph Wilson’s legacy. I just hope at the end of the day, this is a Buddy Nix selection and not a last minute ditch effort for Ralph to over-rule bc he likes 1 guy better than the other.
Bottom line, I’m struggling on the Clausen v. Tebow debate. But oh, what a fun debate it is.
"Show me the baby: - Buddy Nix
by MARVelous on Apr 9, 2010 2:21 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
to be honest...
personal preference… Tebow or McCoy over the pickle… but again, I’ll leave it to Chix since they know better than I… or at least I hope they do….
I agree, not on the order of QB's, but I'll leave it to Buddy to make the right choice.
" A wise man once told me, never argue with a fool, becuase from a far, you can't tell who is who" - Jay-Z
by SouthBuffaloNDgrad on Apr 9, 2010 5:51 PM EDT up reply actions
Please don’t say that. I’m a Clausen guy, but I’m not against drafting Tebow either. But I would be heartbroken if they jump over both Claussen and Tebow just to draft McCoy later in the draft.
The more I see, the less I know.
by CanadianBillsFan on Apr 9, 2010 9:14 PM EDT up reply actions
While I'm not struggling...
in my own preference, your point is well taken… If they are both there for Nix to chose, I will be happy with his choice.. (cause I know who it will be…:)
uh oh
insider info??
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by silverstreak3k on Apr 9, 2010 5:52 PM EDT up reply actions
no...
stirring the pot…
Sorry, I’m just having a grand old time with this Tebow/Clausen debate… Everyone’s minds are already made up which one they prefer, and I won’t argue anymore, so Stir, Add more, Stir some more…. :)
When we get bored with Clausen/Tebow, let's start lobbying for Dez Bryant :-P
"I'm a peripheral visionary." - Steven Wright
Actually....
I really think we SHOULD take him!!! As close to a can’t miss prospect in this year’s draft…. (Aside from Tebow of course…:)
Ok, I'm reading my normal blog routine, this is my first stop,
then I go over to other ND blogs to read about Jimmy’s pro-day, and I see they linked to this article, from Buffalo and then this link. Then I see, some jagoff at a certain ND blog called me a piece o work, what the eff, I’m backing our boy, I bet it was the Tate comment. Sometimes ND pisses me off, now he gets the wrath of me. Just had to say that, my favorite 2 blogs for my favorite 2 teams and I’m getting ripped apart by a ND guy. IMO, your a piece of work.
" A wise man once told me, never argue with a fool, becuase from a far, you can't tell who is who" - Jay-Z
by SouthBuffaloNDgrad on Apr 9, 2010 2:36 PM EDT reply actions
LOL. Dude, I’ve been called every name in the book, and some of those came from people who still comment here. Don’t even worry about it.
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by Brian Galliford on Apr 9, 2010 2:42 PM EDT up reply actions
I bet ya Abayarde could prove you wrong….lol. He’s gotta mighty big book o names.
Sometimes it is better to be thought a fool than to speak and leave no doubt!
Ha, he does. BTW, I love your sig, but hate your avatar, why, why?
" A wise man once told me, never argue with a fool, becuase from a far, you can't tell who is who" - Jay-Z
by SouthBuffaloNDgrad on Apr 9, 2010 3:07 PM EDT up reply actions
It was the closest moment to greatness the Bills ever had…and I remind myself of the life lesson here. Sometimes you can be the best and still not finish first. I have faith that someday I’ll get to change that avatar from the closest to an actual moment of greatness…someday.
Sometimes it is better to be thought a fool than to speak and leave no doubt!
Ok, so like my avatar of Jim Kelly, I'm leaving him their, might change the picture, but
it will always be Jimbo untill we have a legitimate franchise QB, and it wont change if we were to draft Bradford ( i know wont happen, just an example) untill whoever we get proves it for an entire season. I’ll change it then, untill then, no going 5-1 and hoping that’s our QB of the future, I’m talking a true franchise QB, a playoff run might just do it. Looks like were both going to have the same avatars for a while……someday, someday buddy. I’ll be waiting with you.
" A wise man once told me, never argue with a fool, becuase from a far, you can't tell who is who" - Jay-Z
by SouthBuffaloNDgrad on Apr 9, 2010 3:32 PM EDT up reply actions
...and I can't find an avatar for my greatest personal Bills moment
when a 2-14 Bills team beat the Dallas Cowboys on a snowy December Sunday following Tony Dorsett making comments to the media saying he did not understand why the NFL even made teams play such a game, refering to his many wins, playoff bound team playing in a sure win game against a loser Bills team. I watched Roland Hooks I believe run back the opening kickoff and we stomped the Cowboys. Best game I attended.
Sometimes it is better to be thought a fool than to speak and leave no doubt!
That's awesome, The Comeback Game for me, I was young though, also
the recent Cowboys MNF, I know we lost, just a great game but lost due to bad coaching all-around at the end of the game. Yea, that’d be a tough picture to find from an older game, maybe you’ll get lucky.
" A wise man once told me, never argue with a fool, becuase from a far, you can't tell who is who" - Jay-Z
by SouthBuffaloNDgrad on Apr 9, 2010 3:38 PM EDT up reply actions
That was an awesome moment too.
I have kept the front page of the sports section that Monday after and actually considered using that as an avatar. Gotta love Frank Reich. Local media is all a titter over Clausen’s pro day (I live close to ND). Lol, they used Montana and Clausen in the same sentence even! Stunned.
Sometimes it is better to be thought a fool than to speak and leave no doubt!
That's just not fair to Jimmy.
How far from the ND area, in the city or out in the country? If you care to share, I’m just west of ND in a appt complex past SR 31 (Dublin Villiage).
" A wise man once told me, never argue with a fool, becuase from a far, you can't tell who is who" - Jay-Z
by SouthBuffaloNDgrad on Apr 9, 2010 4:05 PM EDT up reply actions
about 40 minutes north, in Michigan on the big lake.
Sometimes it is better to be thought a fool than to speak and leave no doubt!
That's a beautiful area, I love the dunelands. Hope to get out there soon ; )
when this weather turns nice, that damn lake, same with Lake Erie, just about never gets warm untill July. I hate that, go on a nice day in May or June even and the water is still freezing. But I get forced out there about once every week or two in a few months. I just tan and drink, then I want to always go to the Casino since Four Winds opened, man I love that place. Also, that burger place close to the lake that is well know, umm like Ready Macks or something? u know what I’m talking about. I’m googling it now.
" A wise man once told me, never argue with a fool, becuase from a far, you can't tell who is who" - Jay-Z
by SouthBuffaloNDgrad on Apr 9, 2010 4:30 PM EDT up reply actions
Reddimack's I believe, in New Buffalo
Sometimes it is better to be thought a fool than to speak and leave no doubt!
Yes, sir. Thanks
" A wise man once told me, never argue with a fool, becuase from a far, you can't tell who is who" - Jay-Z
by SouthBuffaloNDgrad on Apr 9, 2010 4:39 PM EDT up reply actions
Man it’s a good thing that you don’t hold a grudge ;-)
The more I see, the less I know.
by CanadianBillsFan on Apr 9, 2010 9:24 PM EDT up reply actions
dont sweat it
ive been called many names. you just gotta remember that its the freaking internet….and if people are taking it seriously enough to make it personal, they are the ones that need help…
Buffalo, that's where it's at baby. - Adam 'Pacman' Jones
by silverstreak3k on Apr 9, 2010 4:00 PM EDT up reply actions
also
what blog, i looked on SBnations blog and didnt see anything being linked to here…
Buffalo, that's where it's at baby. - Adam 'Pacman' Jones
by silverstreak3k on Apr 9, 2010 4:04 PM EDT up reply actions
Kind of don't want to tell you but I don't care.
It’s not a SBnation blog, other then Irish Eyes ( Rivals/Scout blog) that you can view but need a subscription to view most articles, not all ( pretty cheap for great articles on recruits/ND football). Anyway, this blog is different from anyother blog, it’s called NDnation, just look it up, and it takes you to a ‘front page’ type thing with links and the editors articles ( over the confrence situations, the poor kid that died in PCB, tragedy, & Kellys new methods of coaching vs. Charlies, and it’s great for college kids, military style, break em down, build them up, i love it) OK on that front page, there are links kind of at the top, each for a different messege board, Rock’s House (main football, ND only & need to be selected to post, elitist asses) Cartier Field ( old stadium name, and the place for the other people to talk, ND mostly, but other sports), CARTIER FIELD is the one to click on and it should be a thread about Clausens pro-day and then a “Buffalo-Link” post, then in response it says from a guy I used to like- Cujays96 ( his username) says “that southbuffaloNDgard is a peice o work” that’s all. I’m not going to tell you my username ( if your very smart you could figure it out) but I haven’t posted there today, and the other message board I read are the ‘Back Room’ (this is just a talk about anything, u might like it, just around a lot of domers, I post there everyonce in a while) and ‘The Pit’ (ND’s BBall message b, not much going on now, they’re all depressed, ha). Sorry for the long post, it’s hard to explain, but yea just google NDnation and go to the front page and click on the link Cartier Field link and should find it easily. Wow, that was long, sorry.
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by SouthBuffaloNDgrad on Apr 9, 2010 4:22 PM EDT up reply actions
ha
no prob. thats a weird message board (layout not substance). i doubt ill ever go back, its funny they singled you out when you were yelling at me and i was saying you were wrong. youd figure i would be the one singled out…..
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by silverstreak3k on Apr 9, 2010 5:19 PM EDT up reply actions
I hate it when people say that Clausen, has the least amount of upside, like what does that mean
? I think it means he’s been trained and groomed to be an NFL QB virtually since before he was born. Anything about him that could be developed, pretty much already has been. He’s been coached by an NFL coach in an NFL style offense for the past 3 years. With Clausen, what you see is pretty much all you will get. The other QB prospects still have lots of NFL-specific training and development ahead of them, hence their “upside” from where they are now.
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by dzil on Apr 9, 2010 4:58 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
Ok, so becuase of that, he doesn't have the chance like any other of the QB's in the draft
to become a great NFL player. I just don’t see that, I would rather take the already polished player, then hoping on a guys upside. That’s just me.
" A wise man once told me, never argue with a fool, becuase from a far, you can't tell who is who" - Jay-Z
by SouthBuffaloNDgrad on Apr 9, 2010 5:12 PM EDT up reply actions
that’s not the point. He’s clearly more polished and developed. The “upside” argument is relative to how far along they are currently developed. You can’t have it both ways.
"the true is we havent had SQUAT, SQUISHY,SAQUASUM SAQGUANDO, DIDLY DORI BING TURY CRAP" - abayarde
Ok, I agree with you. I finally see that side of the argument.
The only Clausen debate that still gets to me is that he’s not good becuase he didn’t play for good teams, he never had the right situation to make it. The other argument that bothers me is the attitude/leadership problems, I find him confident and a great leader. Those are the only arguments that bother me, the other one till today was the "he has the lowest ceiling’ argument, I just didn’t agree with it or understand the logic but I got to say, you guys are right about it, I see that argument being valid. The "his arm strength’ argument, I’m done with, I’ll just counter with his great accuracy. I’m down to only defending Clausen on the first two arguments for him, those will bother me. But yes, my ND-colored glasses off, I understand the potential argument for you guys. You also know what, every prospect in this draft is going to have some sort of problem, it’s inevitable.
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by SouthBuffaloNDgrad on Apr 9, 2010 10:24 PM EDT up reply actions
Tom Brady played in a pro style offense at Michigan and was still improving after 5 years of being coached by Belichick. When the QB position is largely about making decisions, there is always room for improvement.
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this
clausen is as ready as hes gonna get, and many dont think he will make that many more leaps to make him elite. when you take a qb high, you want him to be elite. tebow and bradford arent elite as far as technically ability, but talent wise and intangible-wise both are elite. if you could mold them to leap into a technically sound qb, you would have the option of having an elite qb. with clausen, hes got it all already and from what ive heard, no scout thinks he will be that elite guy. maybe they are all wrong, you never know, but clausen is seen as hitting close to the top of the scale with all the techniques an nfl qb possesses where as tebow and bradford are nowhere near the ceiling and are still good enough to be considered 1 rounders. in other words, clausen is so highly ranked because he knows the nfl system, if he were in a diff system like UF or OU he might not be seen as a first rounder….bradford and tebow are based off talent alone…
i dont know if any of that made sense, but thats how i view it.
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by silverstreak3k on Apr 9, 2010 5:25 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
I like it, nicely put. Oh yea and those jagoffs at that ND board called us non-real football fans.
" A wise man once told me, never argue with a fool, becuase from a far, you can't tell who is who" - Jay-Z
by SouthBuffaloNDgrad on Apr 9, 2010 5:41 PM EDT up reply actions
they are just homers
i can honestly say if i were nix and it was my time on the clock and the tackles were gone but clausen was there, it would be a really really tough decision as what to do. i just hope he knows what hes gonna do and ill trust in him to get us there.
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by silverstreak3k on Apr 9, 2010 5:52 PM EDT up reply actions
I got to say, I like Buddy Nix and will back the picks he makes, most likely.
Yea, were the most dedicated fan base I’ve ever encountered in the NFL, that’s my opinion, and also inteligent football fans. Unlike the fickle nature of most ND fans, half are such nerds then become fans of ND FB and think they’re the greatest.
" A wise man once told me, never argue with a fool, becuase from a far, you can't tell who is who" - Jay-Z
by SouthBuffaloNDgrad on Apr 9, 2010 5:59 PM EDT up reply actions
yes, this is the best description of my indecision on Clausen
Rec’d silverstreak. I’ve had a hard time putting my finger on what, exactly, I don’t like about the guy. I just don’t feel it, but you’ve encapsulated it for me here. Of course its hard to predict, but he seems to have less room for improvement than the other QB prospects, and at the same time isn’t already the undisputed best QB in the draft. That distance to his “ceiling” is what worries me. If we draft him I won’t be upset, as he has a 95% chance to turn out better than anyone already on our roster, but I might lose a little sleep over it. Thanks for articulating for me!
by k8 on Apr 10, 2010 9:42 AM EDT up reply actions
Rec'd!
It’s the exact same way that I see it. Personally the only things that i can see that could improve with Clausen are delivery speed and quick decision making (but then again every single QB could get better at that). Clausen is the best available QB in this draft in my eyes and i can’t wait for us to draft him.
The more I see, the less I know.
by CanadianBillsFan on Apr 9, 2010 9:28 PM EDT up reply actions
Mel Kiper yesterday said people like to say he’s reached his ceiling but he can’t find anybody who has bad things to say about Clausen.
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by MattRichWarren on Apr 11, 2010 8:57 AM EDT up reply actions
I knew that, was going to disclaimer that, nice pull.
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by SouthBuffaloNDgrad on Apr 9, 2010 4:58 PM EDT reply actions
Not suprised to hear Tate doing well...........(although the personal insight from the ND fan was something I didnt expect)
doesnt really change the fact that the guy is amazing…..
And as for Clausen……..
good for him…….that is all :-)
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by norcaliangelsfan on Apr 9, 2010 6:48 PM EDT reply actions
Something else to like about Clausen
His hair comes pre-flattened on top, like he’s wearing an invisible football helmet. All jokes aside, I like him at #9. He might go higher than that after today.
all the talk about ND lately caused that stupid NotreDameOnline.com ad to show up on the first page......
LOL.
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by norcaliangelsfan on Apr 9, 2010 8:10 PM EDT reply actions
I'm really hoping that we land Clausen.
I don’t see him as a franchise savior, but I do see him as a franchise QB that will be very good, if not great, if he is given a few good weapons to play with.
I would love to see video on Clausen’s pro-day though, is there any available?
The more I see, the less I know.
by CanadianBillsFan on Apr 9, 2010 9:02 PM EDT reply actions
Yes, UND.com, should be easy to find. UND.edu takes you to North Dakota University.
" A wise man once told me, never argue with a fool, becuase from a far, you can't tell who is who" - Jay-Z
by SouthBuffaloNDgrad on Apr 9, 2010 10:27 PM EDT up reply actions
My Bottom Line on Clausen
I think he’s a top 10 prospect. He can take a beating. He has some fire in his belly. Makes good throws and protects the ball. Jim Kelly didn’t invite Clausen to dinner but maybe that’s because people who are alike in certain ways usually don’t care for one another.
People say he’s got good arm strength and that’s where I give an eyebrow because if you look at his bombs, and I have one I recorded and posted to youtube some time back, even when get gets into one with no-one in his face, the ball travels about 50 yards in the air and it usually hangs. He throw a massive ark like a lot of college QBs do.
Anyway, I’m sure Nix knows what a good arm is and I think that’s what it will come down to. He is still a top 10 prospect either way because he’s someone you can win football games with an NFL offense. Maybe not Peyton Manning, but maybe the same desire to win.
Clausen ahead of Tebow by a short mile. I would still take either as the 4th in camp but wouldn’t pass on Clausen. I think that’s enviting disaster.
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