Buffalo Bills 2000s All-Decade Team: Offensive Tackle No. 1
The Buffalo Bills' offensive line has been in a constant state of flux over the decade, with no position rotating more than at offensive tackle. For nine straight years, including 2000 and 2001, John Fina held down the left side of the Bills' offensive line, protecting quarterbacks from Jim Kelly to Rob Johnson. Since that time, many have filled in the spot, and not always well.
As in previous installments of the series, vote for your pick as the best tackle of the decade. After the winner has been chosen, we'll come back and vote for the second best. Only players with more than 25 starts were considered for the list.
John Fina
Fina started 26 games at LT in the first two years of the decade. The Bills gave up 59 and 46 sacks in those seasons with Rob Johnson and Alex Van Pelt manning the helm. The rushing attack netted 1,922 and 1,686 yards, respectively, in each of those two years.
Jonas Jennings
In the third round of the 2001 NFL Draft, the Bills made a move to replace the aging Fina by selecting eventual replacement Jonas Jennings. After beginning on the right side, he shifted over following Fina's departure to the left side, starting 52 games in total for Buffalo. His Bills teams rushed for between 1,596 and 1,874 yards over Jennings' tenure in Buffalo, and gave up 38 to 54 sacks with Jennings at LT.
Mike Williams
When John Fina left, the Bills addressed the loss again by taking Texas OT Mike Williams with the fourth overall pick in the 2002 NFL Draft. After 47 starts over four years, Williams got benched and later released. In the three seasons he started 13 or more games, the Bills never gave up fewer than 38 sacks, and rushed for between 1,596 and 1,874 yards.
Jason Peters
Peters joined the Bills in 2004 as an undrafted free agent tight end. After being released and re-signed that first year, Peters started one game in his rookie year. He was brought along by offensive line coach Jim McNally, and in 2005 started 10 games. He flipped from right tackle to left during the 2006 season in a big line shake up, and made the Pro Bowl in 2007 and 2008. Prior to the 2008 season, Peters held out for a better contract, but returned on the eve of the regular season. Following 2008, Peters and his agent again threatened to not report, and Buffalo dealt the Pro Bowler to the Eagles for three draft picks. Peters started 55 games for the Bills and was part of the 2007 line that gave up the fewest sacks, 26, in any one season of the decade.
Langston Walker
After the other failures at right tackle, the Bills made a bold move signing Langston Walker as a free agent in 2007. The team made him their top priority in the period, signing him in the early hours of the first day of free agency. After 32 starts at right tackle, the Bills tried to move the massive man to left tackle following the departure of Peters, but after what was termed a "complete regression," Walker was released prior to the 2009 season. In 2007, the Bills gave up only 26 sacks, the fewest in the decade, and in both years the team rushed for over 1,800 yards.
Best of the Rest
Mike Gandy made 21 starts at tackle and another 11 at guard for the Bills over two seasons, but was moved inside in favor of Peters.
Now it's your turn to vote on who was the best Bills offensive tackle of the decade. Leave your rationale in the comments section.
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I want to slap the people who vote for Mike Williams. Go away, Phinsiders!
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by Brian Galliford on May 11, 2010 10:18 AM EDT reply actions
Oh, I voted for Peters. He is by FAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAR the best OT on this list. Holy hell, it’s not close.
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by Brian Galliford on May 11, 2010 10:19 AM EDT up reply actions
This past decade for sure..check your brain at the door, it’s not required for entry. But John Fina in his prime? I know that wasn’t the question so I had to vote for Peters. I blame the bungling front office more than Peters for how things went.
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In this case we have to define “best,” because if you mean staistically best in terms of sacks allowed over games started, I would be suprised if Fina didn’t come out on top. Add to that the consideration that Fina wanted to be here and help the Bills win, and he gets my vote.
And yes, that is an indictment of the Bills front office during the last decade.
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by MattRichWarren on May 11, 2010 10:24 AM EDT up reply actions
looks like people still hate peters around here.
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Must be Eagles fans :)
I voted for Jennings actually. As mediocre as he was, he was LT during the only halfway positive offensive seasons this decade.
I think this list answers the Chicken / Egg problem. The QB makes his line look good, not the other way around.
by syrbillsfan on May 11, 2010 10:26 AM EDT up reply actions
With that logic
I hope you also plan to vote for Trey Teague, Chris Villarrial, Chris Kelsay, Jeff Posey, and Izell Reese. In fact, you should have voted for Mike Williams if that’s your logic!
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Don’t knock Teague. He may be the best option. Ditto Villarrial and maybe even Kelsay. LOL
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by MattRichWarren on May 11, 2010 11:05 AM EDT up reply actions
I think my Brain just froze.
I think the correct choice for all positions of the all decade offensive line is -
A. None
by syrbillsfan on May 11, 2010 11:12 AM EDT up reply actions
I agree
I think you need to start adding a “None” option for the voting Matt. At least cover all your bases that way!
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"None" may win every position
I guess the all decade team will be Reuben Brown, Brian Moorman, Eric Moulds, and a bunch of crickets
Reyes, Thole, Wright, Beltran, Bay, Davis, Martinez, Tejada...
by Stephen Schmidt on May 11, 2010 11:56 AM EDT up reply actions
And Aaron Schobel
London Fletcher, Terrence McGee/Nate Clements/Antoine Winfield, Takeo Spikes, Pat Williams, Sam Adams
There will be some talent, although many positions will be disgusting.
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"As the governor of Louisiana once said, the only way Chris Kelsay can lose his job is if he got caught in bed with a dead girl or a live boy."
We can convince ourselves that the years going back to the debacle in Tennessee never happened. I really think Brian is right in thinking that the reason we don’t have anyone great to choose on the o-line is directly related to the lack of a QB who could get it done.
Bad teams that bring in the right quarterback – Peyton Manning to Indianapolis, for example, makes that line work. You put Bledsoe behind that same line, bad things are going to happen. All a good line seems to do for a bad quarterback is give him enough time to make a worse mistake than he was going to make in the first place.
by syrbillsfan on May 11, 2010 12:48 PM EDT up reply actions
It’s no fun that way. Pick your poison.
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by MattRichWarren on May 11, 2010 1:59 PM EDT up reply actions
Villarrial?
What are you voting for? Best Sunday inactive? I remember him being made of Paul Posluszny’s arms.
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Peter Potamus
Wins hands down…
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Based on merit, Peters wins in a huge landslide. Based on popularity, I would imagine Fina getting some votes from crusty Peters. I can’t imagine Walker, Jennings, or Mike Williams stealing a whole lot of votes.
Williams made the list just because of how many starts he had. Don’t kill me.
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by MattRichWarren on May 11, 2010 10:25 AM EDT reply actions
Actually Williams showed promise his rookie season…for what it’s worth, if anything.
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Right
you can’t be a bust if you don’t show promise.
by WhiskeySierra6 on May 11, 2010 11:03 AM EDT up reply actions
Come on guys… Peters should win this. Its not a popularity contest. Its whose the best OT we’ve had… and thats Jason Peters hands down.
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yea i voted for him
still hate him though
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by billsoferie on May 11, 2010 12:16 PM EDT up reply actions
Plus
You gotta love a guy that goes from UFA tiught end to Pro Bowler LT. Talk about an underdog story.
Behold - Ghidrah, the 3 headed monster aka Jackson, Spiller & Lynch!
Anybody who doesn't vote for Peters
should have all voting capabilities stripped from them for future polls!
It’s amazing to me how many Bills fans simply despise Peters. Let it go!
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Why vote at all
If I can’t be stupid and vote for a non-trivial choice.
In the case of this topic, all choices are stupid. If our “Best” LT was the best “LT” for all of one – one and a half seasons. I think the sack totals for a line skewed the numbers. Jennings wasn’t as bad as the sack total for his years at that spot indicate. If you count the fact he started for more time and for offenses at least as productive as what Peters produced, he is more equal to Peters than you are giving him credit for. Sure, if this was who was the most talented bills tackle of the decade, the choice is Peters, but that is not what the question was. Also Peters allowed at least 20 sacks by himself in his last two seasons here.
I don’t despise Peters. I am actually very happy that he is some other teams problem. He isn’t a draft bust, but he sure is a talent bust. His immaturity is ruining his chances for a long, hall of fame career. We’ll see just how good he is now that Philly traded away so much talent.
by syrbillsfan on May 11, 2010 11:28 AM EDT up reply actions
I put sack totals down just because I didn’t have any other stats to use. We all saw most of them play if not all.
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by MattRichWarren on May 11, 2010 11:30 AM EDT up reply actions
Good point
Regarding the sack stats. When you take that into account, we are really comparing apples to oranges here.
Behold - Ghidrah, the 3 headed monster aka Jackson, Spiller & Lynch!
Same reason why Freddy was getting votes over McGahee.
This isn’t a popularity contest :/
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by UZ on May 11, 2010 2:54 PM EDT up reply actions
Not to start that again, but is it really crazy to think that the more efficient back (Jackson) is a better player than the guy who racked up bigger numbers with more carries (McGahee) and vote for him for that reason? McGahee averaged under 4 yards per carry in Buffalo. A lot of backs could have done the exact same thing, but without that first round tag, don’t get that kind of opportunity. Few NFL players run for 900+ yards and average under 4 ypc.
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Bills fans simply despise Peters.
Myself, I despise Mike “Wussy, Lardass” Williams for being such waste of a roster space, at least Peters worked his way up the charts and into a Pro Bowl player.
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AMAZING
Look, whether you like how the Peter’s situation was handled (all of you know, I hold OBD 50% responsible), this isn’t about that.
Let’s not forget what a great story Peter’s was. An undrafted free agent who climbed to perenial pro-bowl left tackle!
This is ridiculous if he doesn’t get 100% of the #1 votes, please you haters make 1 argument about anyone else on the list being better than Peters. You can’t.
And Fina was slipping in the 2000’s… Jennings is the #2.
I got nothing.
by Jason from OH-IO on May 11, 2010 11:27 AM EDT reply actions
…50% OBD? hmm. that would be one way of looking at it. another way would be looking at it as he was a player under contract that THEY invested time in to develop, and he decided that the contract he signed should be ripped up in the name of “business as usual.”
also, he was offered a contract extension on multiple occasions- to which he raised his nose and held out.
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I have ranted about this before
So I will spare you…
One question:
1 – Was he paid like a probowl Left tackle? The answer clearly was no.
I got nothing.
by Jason from OH-IO on May 11, 2010 8:54 PM EDT up reply actions
So, do you think the Titians should redo Chris Johnson's deal?
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If everyone who makes it to 1 Pro Bowl has the right to rip their contract up, the league is in serious trouble. And he proceeded to allow the most sacks of any starting LT in the following season, and then held out again…
I really don’t think there’s a leg to stand on defending Peters.
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Does anyone else notice that Jennings and Williams have Identical stats???
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by uPitt_BillsFan on May 11, 2010 12:13 PM EDT reply actions
They overlapped years. Those are team stats.
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by MattRichWarren on May 11, 2010 1:59 PM EDT up reply actions
Hate to admit it, but gotta go with Peters here.
He was probably one of the top 3 LT’s in the league before he had his temper tantrums and let in 11 sacks. He’s easily the best of the bunch here.
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by CanadianBillsFan on May 11, 2010 1:48 PM EDT reply actions
Peters........
talented……….sure..
pain in the rear……definitely.
Best we had…….by far.
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by norcaliangelsfan on May 11, 2010 2:08 PM EDT reply actions
Does anybody else think Langston Walker is the second-best OT we had in the 2000s? I think I believe that and he’s getting absolutely murdered.
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I honestly think that he was the best RT that we’ve had in the last 10 years. Maybe you shoul only make the next OT poll for RT’s.
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by CanadianBillsFan on May 11, 2010 6:06 PM EDT up reply actions
Too hard. Peters played both. Ditto Jennings. Walker tried.
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by MattRichWarren on May 11, 2010 7:16 PM EDT up reply actions
I’m still going to be voting for him on the second OT spot. Butler and him were a great duo on the right side.
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by CanadianBillsFan on May 11, 2010 7:56 PM EDT up reply actions
I really wanted to vote for Jonas Jennings, but couldn’t ignore Peters giving the Bills at least one incredible season at LT (2007). He was a good RT and even in his mediocre 2008 season, he was still better than anything else that Buffalo has had at the position in this decade.
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Yup
I liked Jonas Jennings too, but Peters was the superior player. His lousy 2008 season and immature personality don’t drag him down below the rest of the field.
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Are you kidding me?
Peters was a sieve at LT. Oh my he was/is the most over rated left tackle in the game. He made me want Gandy back. Yes he made a nice transition from an undrafted TE to a starting LT. I would like to say he was a solid LT for us, but no. I remember screaming at my television every Sunday countless times about his play. Sorry but Fina was the last quality LT we have had. Do we forget so easily how he gave up the most sacks per year from his position? We robbed Philly in that trade. Here is a quote from my friend the die-hard Eagles fan, (who lives in Philly) “What a bum! So wish we could take that trade back.”
Keepin' the faith!
Think you might be alone in that assessment.
Do we forget so easily how he gave up the most sacks per year from his position?
Can’t forget when we’ve never seen it. Why don’t you go ahead and work up those numbers? :)
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by Brian Galliford on May 11, 2010 4:21 PM EDT up reply actions
Gotta change up the avatar every now and then. Thinking of going to Abed.
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by Brian Galliford on May 11, 2010 6:32 PM EDT up reply actions
He's not alone.
Peters had a terrible 2008 season following his first holdout – though the numbers are disputed – he reportedly gave up 11.5 sacks that season.
How here’s what Football Insiders had to say about Peters SINCE we trade him:
Eagles LT Jason Peters graded as the worst at his position in 2009, according to Football Outsiders. It’s a crime that Peters made the Pro Bowl in his first season with the Birds after signing a six-year, $60.657 million contract. He led the team in penalties with 11, allowed seven sacks and gave up four hurries. The Eagles sorely need Peters to improve his pass blocking no matter who is under center.
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I’m not sure how guys on the Eagles blog do it, but here we back up what we say. If you would like to support the claim that the Eagles weren’t completely owned in that trade, this was an opportunity to do so.
Enjoy your overrated LT. We’re very happy with our selection with your first round pick.
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