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State of the Bills Roster: Free Safety

In 2008, the defensive unit that the Buffalo Bills put on the field intercepted 10 passes in 16 games. The team's leading interceptor, cornerback Terrence McGee, picked off just three passes. Of that dismal total of 10 picks, seven came from the team's cornerbacks (with Jabari Greer and then-rookie Leodis McKelvin splitting the difference), and three came from linebackers. Buffalo's safeties intercepted exactly zero passes in 2008.

Last season, the Buffalo Bills intercepted 28 passes, good for the second-highest total in the NFL behind Green Bay's 30. (They rose 25 spots in the rankings from '08 to '09, folks.) The team's leading interceptor, then-rookie part-time starting free safety Jairus Byrd, intercepted nine passes, which very nearly won him Defensive Rookie of the Year honors. Buffalo got similar INT production out of its corners (five) and linebackers (four), and even got a couple of interceptions from its defensive line. After a woeful 2008, Buffalo's safety group intercepted 17 passes in 2009.

Which group of safeties will we see in Buffalo in 2010? Will we see the group that put up a big ol' fat goose egg like in 2008, or will we see the dynamic, functionally talented, deep, play-making group that was one of the NFL's best safety rotations last season? With four safeties (two of them strong safeties that won't appear in this analysis) that can legitimately lay claim to starting roles, barring poor health, we're betting on the latter. Our analysis of Buffalo's free safeties is after the jump.

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Positional Responsibilities
Though the Bills are transitioning to the 3-4 defense, the responsibilities of the team's defensive backs aren't going to change much, and with good reason. Buffalo's secondary is very good at what it collectively does. The free safety position will still be a centerfield position, one in which players will be deep in coverage and asked to read and react. Run support will not be a big factor at this position.

Personnel Breakdown
Don't read anything into the order in which players appear below - they appear based purely on level of NFL game experience, and nothing more.

37 - George Wilson. After starting his career as an undrafted free agent wide receiver, Wilson was switched to safety by Buffalo's previous coaching staff, and has been something of a revelation at his new position. He's coming off a career year in 2009, one in which he saw starts at both free and strong safety, accumulated 103 tackles, four interceptions, two sacks and a forced fumble, and cemented himself as one of the team's core leaders. Buffalo has on-paper starters at both free and strong safety, but I would not be surprised if Buffalo's coaching staff sneaks Wilson into the starting lineup at strong safety, where he performed admirably last season despite not being a classic in-the-box type of player. You're going to see Wilson on the field a lot in 2010, and that's a great thing for this team, even if he's not a "starter."

31 - Jairus Byrd. There's not much to say about Byrd that hasn't already been gleefully repeated ad nauseum in these parts. Byrd's tremendous nine-interception rookie season should have won him the AP Defensive Rookie of the Year Award - particularly after the now-infamous re-vote. Byrd is the prototypical centerfielder; he's not a phenomenal long-range athlete, but he's quick, fast enough, has tremendous instincts and obviously has enviable ball skills. I don't know that I expect Byrd to become something more than what he is now - that is, an all-world safety capable of taking over games and dominating opponents - but he's an excellent football player capable of putting together a Darren Sharper-type career. He just needs to stay healthy to do so.

46 - Brett Johnson. I have no idea where Buffalo thinks they can slide this guy onto the roster, because Johnson wasn't a great collegiate football player, and the Bills' secondary is completely loaded with young, talented players. Johnson looks like a free safety, and his best shot will be as a centerfielder. Despite his uphill climb, Johnson's tremendous athleticism - we're talking 4.3-second 40-yard dash, 42.5-inch vertical jump and 10'9" broad jump athleticism - makes him one of the team's most intriguing UDFA signings this year. But he's definitely more athlete than football player at this point in time.

Contract Situations
Entering his second season, Byrd's got three years and $1.44 million remaining on his four-year rookie deal. With another strong season in 2010, Byrd could be in line for an early, lengthy contract extension, particularly if that strong season is also an injury-free season. Wilson signed a one-year, $1.76 million tender offer as a restricted free agent, and reports have indicated that the Bills would like to tie him up long-term. That hasn't happened yet. Johnson is an undrafted free agent, and thus has a short-term, cheap deal; numbers have not been specified in either case.

2010 Forecast
Byrd's playmaking abilities make him a must-start. He'll open the season as Buffalo's starting free safety, and as the team's most proven playmaker. Keep your fingers crossed that he's able to stay healthy. I'm not sure I'm ready to pencil Wilson into the starting lineup at any position, but this is a guy that has routinely found his way onto the field of play over the past three seasons, and that trend will continue this season - he's just too good a player. I wouldn't be shocked if Wilson is lining up next to Byrd as the starting strong safety on opening day, either. As for Johnson, he won't make the final roster - there's simply too much competition - but a strong pre-season and his athleticism could easily land him a practice squad spot.

My Prediction
Byrd is the starter at free safety, Donte Whitner gets the initial nod at strong safety, and Wilson is the first player on the field in reserve at both positions. Buffalo also has Bryan Scott to insert into the rotation at safety, and the team's top four safeties all have very complementary games, so that the Bills should be able to play match-up football if they wish. But in the end, Chan Gailey strikes me as a "production wins out" type of coach, and if that proves to be true, I think Byrd and Wilson end the 2010 season as the team's unquestioned starters at free and strong safety, respectively.

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But I thought Whitner was a FS!!

Our starting safeties should be Wilson and Byrd. It shouldn’t even be a question. Those are the two best players back there, and they deserve to be the starters. The productions backs it up.

I wouldn’t be surprised if they kept Johnson on the PS. A guy with that type of athleticism deserves a chance to develop a bit, even if it’s to become a career Special Teamer.

~K
"As the governor of Louisiana once said, the only way Chris Kelsay can lose his job is if he got caught in bed with a dead girl or a live boy."

by Kurupt on May 18, 2010 2:57 PM EDT reply actions  

I still believe Whitner should have been a FS from the time he was brought into the league.

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by Brian Galliford on May 18, 2010 2:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

Why do you feel that way?

He has yet to show any semblance of instincts in the passing game, has weak ball skills and just seems to be a step late in coverage or recognition. I don’t think being a FS from the start would have improved those innate abilities all that much….

~K
"As the governor of Louisiana once said, the only way Chris Kelsay can lose his job is if he got caught in bed with a dead girl or a live boy."

by Kurupt on May 18, 2010 3:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

Strictly athletically, I think he had a better shot at FS than SS. I just don’t think he was meant to be an in-the-box defender.

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by Brian Galliford on May 18, 2010 3:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

But those lack of instincts should be just as big of a red flag

I guess they thought his decent production at OSU would improve in the NFL once he got comfortable and developed. Obviously, that hasn’t happened.

It’s too bad we couldn’t take Byrd’s instincts, Whitner’s athletic ability and Bryan Scott’s body and form one mutant all-world safety.

~K
"As the governor of Louisiana once said, the only way Chris Kelsay can lose his job is if he got caught in bed with a dead girl or a live boy."

by Kurupt on May 18, 2010 3:16 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

It’s too bad we couldn’t take Byrd’s instincts, Whitner’s athletic ability and Bryan Scott’s body and form one mutant all-world safety.

Eric Berry?

The player I would like least at #9 would be my sister’s cat, Captain Creamsicle. She does have a great work ethic and agility, but I’m really concerned that at 9 lbs., she’s too small to play safety in the NFL. She also bites way too often on play action and is easily distracted by someone waving string in the crowd. Lastly, her wonderlic score was pretty awful, answering "meow meow meow" for most of the questions- Dr. Brackish Okun

by mob16151 on May 18, 2010 5:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

Deadpool?

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by NorCal BillsFan on May 18, 2010 6:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

overrated

The player I would like least at #9 would be my sister’s cat, Captain Creamsicle. She does have a great work ethic and agility, but I’m really concerned that at 9 lbs., she’s too small to play safety in the NFL. She also bites way too often on play action and is easily distracted by someone waving string in the crowd. Lastly, her wonderlic score was pretty awful, answering "meow meow meow" for most of the questions- Dr. Brackish Okun

by mob16151 on May 18, 2010 7:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

Your joking right?

Washington? Check. Pittsburg? Check. Boston or Philly? Wont be a problem. WE'RE GOING TO THE STANLEY CUP BABY!!! GO HABS GO!!!!

by CanadianBillsFan on May 18, 2010 7:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

Not at all

Deadpool is overrated.

The player I would like least at #9 would be my sister’s cat, Captain Creamsicle. She does have a great work ethic and agility, but I’m really concerned that at 9 lbs., she’s too small to play safety in the NFL. She also bites way too often on play action and is easily distracted by someone waving string in the crowd. Lastly, her wonderlic score was pretty awful, answering "meow meow meow" for most of the questions- Dr. Brackish Okun

by mob16151 on May 18, 2010 8:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

oh common man, an invinceable wise ass assassin, what’s overated about that?

Washington? Check. Pittsburg? Check. Boston or Philly? Wont be a problem. WE'RE GOING TO THE STANLEY CUP BABY!!! GO HABS GO!!!!

by CanadianBillsFan on May 18, 2010 9:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

thats funny

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by NorCal BillsFan on May 18, 2010 11:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

Psssh

Omega Red can totally take him.

The player I would like least at #9 would be my sister’s cat, Captain Creamsicle. She does have a great work ethic and agility, but I’m really concerned that at 9 lbs., she’s too small to play safety in the NFL. She also bites way too often on play action and is easily distracted by someone waving string in the crowd. Lastly, her wonderlic score was pretty awful, answering "meow meow meow" for most of the questions- Dr. Brackish Okun

by mob16151 on May 19, 2010 12:42 AM EDT up reply actions  

please. Omega Red would deffinatly inflict a lot fo damage but you forgot the part where Deadpool can be decapitated and still survive. it would a long hard fight but deadpool would take it in the end.

Washington? Check. Pittsburg? Check. Boston or Philly? Wont be a problem. WE'RE GOING TO THE STANLEY CUP BABY!!! GO HABS GO!!!!

by CanadianBillsFan on May 19, 2010 1:10 AM EDT up reply actions  

I… Well… That was a perfect response…

Agree 100% on Byrd, Wilson, Whitner and Johnson.

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by bflo on May 18, 2010 5:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

I just don’t see any way Wilson won’t take the starting job away from Whitner. Wilson is just too much of a playmaker to have him sit. I would be more than happy to see the Wilson/Byrd combo for the next several years.

If I only had a brain...

by Schooled You on May 18, 2010 2:59 PM EDT reply actions  

Hmm… not sure about that one. Wilson had an excellent year last year, but let’s not pretend he didn’t only have 2 picks prior to said strong season.

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by Brian Galliford on May 18, 2010 3:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

Well

As a part time player, those 2 picks were still the same as Whitner had! And Whitner has never had a season like Wilson had last year.

~K
"As the governor of Louisiana once said, the only way Chris Kelsay can lose his job is if he got caught in bed with a dead girl or a live boy."

by Kurupt on May 18, 2010 3:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

And

Wilsons 103 tackles vs Whitners 57

If I only had a brain...

by Schooled You on May 18, 2010 3:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

Do tackles count for playmaking? If so, Whitner’s been a hell of a playmaker throughout his entire career.

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by Brian Galliford on May 18, 2010 3:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think he was adding on to Wilson's 4 picks, 2 sacks and 6 PD's from last year

Each of them more than Whitner ever had in a season….

~K
"As the governor of Louisiana once said, the only way Chris Kelsay can lose his job is if he got caught in bed with a dead girl or a live boy."

by Kurupt on May 18, 2010 3:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

Don't get me wrong

I don’t think Whitner is a bad player, I just think Wilson is the better one right now. Whitner got between 50-68 tackles, which is solid production. But with Wilson FAR exceeding anything Donte ever did plus George getting the picks this year… I don’t see how people wouldn’t view him as the starter.

If I only had a brain...

by Schooled You on May 18, 2010 3:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

The thing with Wilson

is that has outplayed expectations…which gives him greater crediblity among fans and players…Whitner on the other hand, has had to deal w/ unrealistic expectations and has not lived up to them…which gave him a short leash. Whitner is a solid, yet unspectacular safety, where is Wilson is that plus he makes plays…his first career INT was taken back to the house. It may be that Wilson was playing the wrong position his entire football career until he got to BLo.

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by NorCal BillsFan on May 18, 2010 6:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

The combination of piling up tackles, providing an adequate blitz when called upon, as well as making plays in the passing game is undeniably impressive (especially for a part time starter). Whitner never had a year like that and has had plenty of opportunity since being drafted. You’re right that tackles are a misleading stat, so in taht regard, you need to use your eyes to some extent in evaluating the play of a defensive back. I honestly believe that Wilson is a better player than Whitner and it’s by a wide margin.

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by Port Royal on May 18, 2010 3:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

I don’t disagree with that. I did predict that Wilson would end up the starter at some point during the season. I just think Whitner will get first crack, and I could be wrong about that.

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by Brian Galliford on May 18, 2010 3:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

that's probably right

Gailey said something like that earlier in the offseason. In my mind, it’s a mistake though.

"Godzilla is coming so get ready." -abayarde

by Port Royal on May 18, 2010 3:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

Me too...

but I also have faith in Wilson to man-up and take the position back anyway…leaving Edwards no choice.

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by NorCal BillsFan on May 18, 2010 6:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

disagree

whitner never had the change to play only ss he had to play fs, ss, sb cb, so if you had to change your job every week how good would you be

FRANK

by fyoungpop on May 18, 2010 5:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

It's the chicken and egg thing

Whitner also has never been stellar at any one position. I think he’s one of those jack of all trades master of none type of guys. His biggest strength is his versatility. Just shows how bad of a pick he was at #8.

by Renegade23 on May 18, 2010 5:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

I understand your point, but I disagree...
His biggest strength is his versatility. Just shows how bad of a pick he was at #8.

Eric Berry is versatile, does that make him overvalued? No. Versatility is not a bad thing no matter how you describe it…the jack-of-all-trades label is a good thing, the problem is not Whitner, its that he was outplayed by Wilson.

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by NorCal BillsFan on May 18, 2010 6:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

Just excuses

He’s had plenty of time to adjust to either position, and never really has. He knew he was going to be playing a little of each, its up to him to be prepared and make things happen.

~K
"As the governor of Louisiana once said, the only way Chris Kelsay can lose his job is if he got caught in bed with a dead girl or a live boy."

by Kurupt on May 18, 2010 5:42 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

Not for safeties!

At least not if the rest of your defense is working properly! It’s a sign of how much we sucked that George Wilson tallied 103 tackles.

by syrbillsfan on May 19, 2010 9:27 AM EDT up reply actions  

Wilson

Also doesn’t let anywhere near as many picks clang off his hands like Whitner – one of the joys of Wilson being an ex WR – when he gets a chance they generally stick ! Unlike Mr Twitter.

3 AM Monday morning games all 2010 - that's just freakin dandy !

by Will G on May 19, 2010 2:55 AM EDT up reply actions  

Wilson has also improved and made more plays the more time he is given on the field. I think his leadership is by far better then Whitner’s as well. Barring injury or Whitner making huge improvements I see Wilson/Byrd being a combo for at least a few years.

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by Ghetts on May 18, 2010 4:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think his leadership is by far better then Whitner’s as well.

While I read that several players look up to Wilson for his “never-die” team-first approach, Whitner has repeatedly made himself available to the younger players and has been described as the leader of the DEF on more than one occasion.

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by NorCal BillsFan on May 18, 2010 6:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

Well no wonder our D has stunk!!!

~K
"As the governor of Louisiana once said, the only way Chris Kelsay can lose his job is if he got caught in bed with a dead girl or a live boy."

by Kurupt on May 18, 2010 9:21 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

Wow

I think you’re being a bit harsh, you can’t really question Whitner’s dedication and effort. While Whitner himself has never really put everything together, that really doesn’t relate to our defense being terrible as a whole. I would look at our motley crew of safety sized linebackers that also happened to be a step slow. Seriously, how do you seek out small guys on purpose and end up with 90% of them being at best no faster than real, manly man sized linebackers?

by syrbillsfan on May 19, 2010 9:32 AM EDT up reply actions  

It was sarcasm

Hence the multiple exclamation points….

~K
"As the governor of Louisiana once said, the only way Chris Kelsay can lose his job is if he got caught in bed with a dead girl or a live boy."

by Kurupt on May 19, 2010 9:43 AM EDT up reply actions  

Oh, sorry LOL

I didn’t know that’s what that meant, I guess I’m in an overly serious mood today.

by syrbillsfan on May 19, 2010 10:03 AM EDT up reply actions  

Wilson

I think George Wilson is Buffalo’s best all-around safety and if I had it my way, he’d be an every down player. I have high hopes for Byrd obviously, but he needs to become a much better tackler. To me, Byrd and Wilson should start with Whitner as the 3rd safety and Scott would be a valuable backup who plays pretty well on special teams. I wouldn’t be shocked to see Cary Harris make the team as a 10th DB either with him being primarily a free safety.

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by Port Royal on May 18, 2010 3:02 PM EDT reply actions  

Given the numbers on the roster, Harris is almost certain to move back to cornerback as his primary position. But that experience he got at FS will help his chances.

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by Brian Galliford on May 18, 2010 3:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

Wasn't Harris strictly a zone CB coming out last year?

Before the move to FS….

He lacks speed and quickness, and I think I recall strength and size too. I think his best shot will be as a backup FS/ST player.

~K
"As the governor of Louisiana once said, the only way Chris Kelsay can lose his job is if he got caught in bed with a dead girl or a live boy."

by Kurupt on May 18, 2010 3:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yes, but Buffalo will still be playing zone.

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by Brian Galliford on May 18, 2010 3:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

Really?

Has Chan and Edwards said that somewhere??

I kind of hope they do play some zone, but I also want them playing more man and playing a lot more aggressively overall….

~K
"As the governor of Louisiana once said, the only way Chris Kelsay can lose his job is if he got caught in bed with a dead girl or a live boy."

by Kurupt on May 18, 2010 3:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

Drayton Florence said it – that their coverage responsibilities and terminology will be the same. That’s why they kept Catavolos.

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by Brian Galliford on May 18, 2010 3:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

great news – why change what isn’t broken

We got the tools, We got the talent

by J2 on May 18, 2010 4:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

I could of sworn he said that they wont run strickly man coverage. That they would switch between zone and man.

by eze on May 19, 2010 8:53 AM EDT up reply actions  

Every team switches up as needed… All they mean is our primary deep coverage will be the same zones we’ve seen over the past couple of years. I’m sure we’ll see our guys line up a bit closer to the line than the 8-10yds back they usually would line up in. It does make sense for the coaches to keep the coverages similar to the past, as they did work, and most of our DB’s were drafted as zone defenders and not “coverage” type corners.

by syrbillsfan on May 19, 2010 9:35 AM EDT up reply actions  

Yes, that’s what he said. And it’s exactly what they did last year, too.

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by Brian Galliford on May 19, 2010 11:06 AM EDT up reply actions  

Well, if all he lacks is speed, quickness, strength and size... : )

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by StroudFanClub on May 18, 2010 3:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

@SFC - One of the best lines ever uttered on the big screen...

Robert Duvall’s character talking to James Earl Jones’ character about HS football…

“I used to play a little ball. I was small, but I made up for it by being slow.”

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by NorCal BillsFan on May 18, 2010 7:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

haha, exactly. Classic

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by StroudFanClub on May 18, 2010 7:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

Well, if all he lacks is speed, quickness, strength and size… : )

He must be a Jauron draft pick!

by syrbillsfan on May 19, 2010 9:36 AM EDT up reply actions  

Wilson and Byrd.........

what a great duo………and boy are they cheap!

It’s so baffling to me how the most productive players on this team…….are also the least paid……….Simply amazing.

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by norcaliangelsfan on May 18, 2010 3:31 PM EDT reply actions  

There’s no fat of the land for them to live off of. Lee Evans might be a different story with a different team. But at his rate, he should be able to find reasons and opportunity to blow his opponents away.

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by TheAfghanTwilight on May 18, 2010 3:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

Johnson’s tremendous athleticism – we’re talking 4.3-second 40-yard dash, 42.5-inch vertical jump and 10’9" broad jump athleticism

Everything I’ve read says he is high 4.4s or low 4.5s and his athleticism and speed never translated into his play. Terms like “lack of burst” or “poor in pursuit” have been used. Could be a decent special teams gunner I guess.

by Don Beebe on May 18, 2010 3:39 PM EDT reply actions  

This link says 4.3.

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by Brian Galliford on May 18, 2010 3:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah, unofficial vs official times, I guess it’s all sematics. Doesn’t matter how fast he can run if he can’t play the position. Like you said, he is much more of an athlete than a football player at this point.

by Don Beebe on May 18, 2010 3:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

semantics*

I wish there was an edit feature

by Don Beebe on May 18, 2010 3:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think they should have guys run the 40 in a full NFL uniform. That’s the type of speed which matters most.

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by TheAfghanTwilight on May 18, 2010 3:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

But maybe even that won't give us an accurate idea

Most players run faster in live game conditions when they are either trying to catch someone or get away from someone. They should just ban the 40 and force teams to use game film to evaluate speed. Or rather, this is what the Bills do and I’m just fine with that.

by Renegade23 on May 18, 2010 5:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

They should do races then...

“I choose not to run!” -J.S.

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by NorCal BillsFan on May 18, 2010 7:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

Or

Have them run a battery of routes / coverage patterns in full pads. Then you might get something a little closer to real.

Then you have a goon like Merriman smack ’em, and see if they get back up :)

by syrbillsfan on May 19, 2010 9:38 AM EDT up reply actions  

Good talent in the backfield...

Competition is what building a good team is all about and the defensive backfield is loaded.

Byrd is a very good player who reminds me of former Bill DB Henry Jones who had a great 2nd year with 8 ints then was a very steady player. If he turns out like Henry the Bills will be in good shape for years to come.

Whitner is a good ball player with the misfortune of being drafted at the 8 spot, he needs a career year to get the fans to forget that fact….

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by Goose22 on May 18, 2010 3:51 PM EDT reply actions  

I just wish people would stop holding that against him...there are other reasons to want Wilson & Byrd to start...
Whitner is a good ball player with the misfortune of being drafted at the 8 spot, he needs a career year to get the fans to forget that fact….

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by NorCal BillsFan on May 18, 2010 7:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

I cannot say this enough: I LOVE OUR SAFETIES!!!!

In between Byrd, Wilson, Whitner and Scott there really isn’t any need to keep another safety on this roster. Although in case of injury precaussion I see Harris also making the final cut at SS. With Byrd being strictly a FS and Whitner and Wilson being both able to play both safety positions this team does not need to keep Johnson and should only keep the extra SS (Harris) in case one of our starting 4 gets injured.

I also have the feeling that we can call all 4 of our safeties starters because I see all of them getting about the same amount of snaps all year long. Our safeties will be very exciting to watch again this year! I LOVE IT!

Washington? Check. Pittsburg? Check. Boston or Philly? Wont be a problem. WE'RE GOING TO THE STANLEY CUP BABY!!! GO HABS GO!!!!

by CanadianBillsFan on May 18, 2010 4:07 PM EDT reply actions   1 recs

Very excited to see the safetys this year. With a full off-season for Byrd, hoping hes ready to go, will be great for him. And like you said, we really dont have a bad safety on the roster (Byrd, Wilson, Whitner and Scott.

Thank you Dick Jauron (wait wtf?!) lol

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by bflo on May 18, 2010 6:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

i think scott and byrd are the best safety tandem we have

scott is solid against the run, matches up well with big TE and allows byrd to be the ball hawk playmaker that he is. donte and wilson are good backups and will surely be used, but i think scott and byrd should be starting from day one.

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by silverstreak3k on May 18, 2010 4:39 PM EDT reply actions  

Count me in as another who thinks Scott is still underrated.

Any chance he can stay in the starting lineup at linebacker? I really feel Scott is a solid, solid player for us.

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by StroudFanClub on May 18, 2010 7:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

Any chance he can stay in the starting lineup at linebacker?

No, none at all.. Scott came into the league as a CB, was switched to safety,and as he continued to “grow”, has played some linebacker for us when asked.

It’s only a matter of time before he moves again, to his more “natural” position of left tackle… ;-)

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by Cinga on May 18, 2010 7:51 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

o his more "natural" position of left tackle… ;-)

He can go with Jauron to Philly and play some DT / DE for them.

by syrbillsfan on May 19, 2010 9:40 AM EDT up reply actions  

Their respective talents fit best together...

But those two aren’t our best safeties…IMO, its Whitner and Wilson…but Byrd is playmaker and he needs to be on the field. Scott is a great in the box SS and is much better in man-to-man than most SS in the NFL, but he has severe limitations when it comes to WR matchups. Whitner has almost no weaknesses…Wilson is like Whitner, not as great a tackler but makes more plays…

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by NorCal BillsFan on May 18, 2010 7:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

the limitations scott has on the wr matchups

dont mean much to me. the only time that would be a consistent problem would be on obvious passing downs in 4-5 wr sets. in which case you send out the whitner to cover that other wr. scott should be on the field more than whitner and wilson in my opinion, but the great thing is both wilson and whitner are amazing backups (starters on other teams) that you dont lose much with subs and package coverages.

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by silverstreak3k on May 19, 2010 1:03 AM EDT up reply actions  

Sorry about the not-so-good-natured fanpost the other day guys.

That dude just really got under my skin. I can’t stand when people are that defiantly negative. What’s the fun in that? It reminded me of that little vignette on Family Guy when the guy’s trying to argue with his stubborn mule roommate about whether Kevin Bacon was actually in the movie Footloose. All I could hear was HEE-HAW!

Anywho, something we all have to be happy about is the fact that we have 4 starting caliber safeties who all complement each other extremely well. They’re all going to see a fair amount of playing time. Scott is by far the best suited to cover a TE.

Most teams struggle to find 1-2 competent safeties (i.e. NYG, Philly, etc.). We somehow have amassed quite the stockpile. As far as Whitner goes, there’s really no point in dogging him anymore. It’s not his fault Jauron/Levy reached for him, but one thing I do know is that he’s not a bust by any stretch of the imagination. He’s just a testament to why it’s erroneous to be picking a safety that high in the first place. He’s not a world beater by any stretch, but he’s one of the more versatile and useful safeties in the NFL. I think he’s likely gone after his rookie deal runs out. I have grown to respect him overall as a football player and leader.

by live6453 on May 18, 2010 4:55 PM EDT reply actions   1 recs

It’s not his fault Jauron/Levy reached for him, but one thing I do know is that he’s not a bust by any stretch of the imagination. He’s just a testament to why it’s erroneous to be picking a safety that high in the first place. He’s not a world beater by any stretch, but he’s one of the more versatile and useful safeties in the NFL.

Completely agree with this.

by Renegade23 on May 18, 2010 5:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

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and Rec’d : )

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by NorCal BillsFan on May 18, 2010 7:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

I believe the Bills have a better outlook at the safety position than any of the other AFC east teams.

Dolphins – Yeremiah Bell is a very solid SS, but FS is a complete and utter questions mark. It’s never a good sign when releasing a player (Gibril Wilson) is actually an upgrade for the secondary.
Patriots – New England is a mirror image of Miami, as Meriweather is a Pro-Bowl caliber FS, but who knows if Chung or McGowan are ready to step up at the strong position.
Jets – Jim Leonhard is a classic overachiever, but I think the Jets made a mistake in trading Kerry Rhodes, as I have little faith in Brodney Pool.

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by Chad Henne is Your New Bicycle on May 18, 2010 5:26 PM EDT reply actions  

Yeah...

that seemed like a power play by Rex…“if you don’t like it, I’ll ship your ass out of here” kind of thing…he was easily their best safety…

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by NorCal BillsFan on May 18, 2010 7:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

Funny, the pic at the top has been my background on my phone since the week of that game. Im looking at like… I know Ive seen this before… duh… lol

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by bflo on May 18, 2010 6:43 PM EDT reply actions  

DB's in particular safeties...

are our most (and only) dominant position. I would love to trade mckelvin or whitner (or both) for picks or a OT. Neitehr is likely a full time starter for us.

by wab2 on May 18, 2010 8:22 PM EDT reply actions  

I don’t know how to send a link, but Losman just signed with Seattle…if anyone cares….

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by BigEasyBillsKrewe on May 18, 2010 10:04 PM EDT reply actions  

thats a sympathy post...

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by NorCal BillsFan on May 18, 2010 11:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

Don’t get me wrong, I’m happy for him. Served him a drink once pre-starting, post leg brake…really nice guy!Wish him the best!

"This is what happens Larry!, This is what happens! "-Walter Sobchak" "I've never seen a jockey carry a horse across the finish line"-Joe D.

by BigEasyBillsKrewe on May 18, 2010 11:56 PM EDT reply actions  

It was iced tea…even though I offered to buy him a beer.

"This is what happens Larry!, This is what happens! "-Walter Sobchak" "I've never seen a jockey carry a horse across the finish line"-Joe D.

by BigEasyBillsKrewe on May 18, 2010 11:58 PM EDT reply actions  

Wilson

George Wilson is the best story on the Bills roster next to Freddy J. Going from practice squad WR to borderline starting FS is unbelievable. If not for Byrd, he would be the starter. He would be a welcome addition to many NFL teams currently.

Behold - Ghidrah, the 3 headed monster aka Jackson, Spiller & Lynch!

by billskk69 on May 19, 2010 6:58 AM EDT reply actions  

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