Buffalo Bills 2000s All-Decade Team: Defensive Tackle No. 2
by MattRichWarren on May 19, 2010 8:00 AM EDT
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PrintPat Williams has taken the top defensive tackle spot of the decade, and we now turn to the second big guy in the middle of our four-man line. None of the tackles below spent a majority of the decade on the Buffalo Bills D-line, with Kyle Williams the longest-tenured at four years. I've added Ted Washington between the first and second DT post. His omission on the first post was an oversight, but a rectifiable one. The Bills actually have several quality candidates to fill this spot, so let's get voting.
Ted Washington
Washington was signed by the Bills in 1995. He would no doubt be the NT of the decade for the '90s after two Pro Bowls and starting virtually every game for the second half of the decade. He only played one year for the Bills in 2000, which happens to coincide with the last decade the Bills played the 3-4 defense. Washington was so good during that season he was named as one of the AFC DTs in the Pro Bowl. He had 2.5 sacks and 37 tackles in his 16 starts on the Bills' third-ranked defense.
Sam Adams
The Bills signed Adams from the Raiders following the 2002 season. In his three years in Buffalo, he started 40 games and amassed 65 tackles, 13 sacks, two interceptions (one of which went back for a touchdown), batted down six passes, and recovered a fumble. In 2003 and 2004, Adams teamed with Pat Williams to own the middle of the Bills' second-ranked defense in back-to-back years.
Kyle Williams
Williams was drafted in the fifth round of the 2006 NFL Draft. Big Kyle started 11 games in his rookie season and 57 games in four seasons in Buffalo which is tops among the DTs on the list. For his career, he has 8 sacks, one pass defended, two forced fumbles, one fumble recovery, and 139 tackles. His sack totals trail only Sam Adams and his tackles are more than anyone remaining. In 2009, Williams' agent told the media he was a Pro Bowl alternate after he had the best season of his career.
Larry Tripplett
Larry Tripplett was signed as a free agent from the Indianapolis Colts. In two unremarkable seasons in Buffalo, he compiled 3.5 sacks, one interception, 8 defended passes, two fumbles forced and two recovered, and 38 tackles while starting all 32 games.
Marcus Stroud
The Bills traded third- and fifth-round picks to acquire Stroud from the Jacksonville Jaguars in 2008. In his two seasons in Buffalo, he has started 31 games, making 67 tackles, 4.5 sacks, forcing a fumble, and recovering three. He's also batted down 15 passes.
Leave your voting rationale in the comments section. We'll move onto the Defensive End position next.
Previous Installments: QB, RB 1, RB 2, WR 1, WR 2, TE, OT 1, OT 2, OG 1, OG 2, OC, P/K, DT 1
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K. Williams
I’m going with Kyle, being a 5th round pick in 06 (which looks like he will be the best player taken in that year for the Bills), he worked his way into a starting position. He is a blue collar football player that flies under the radar but is very productive. If the Bills were relevant in the playoff race he would be noticed on a national level.
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I mean
KW is good, but no matter where he was drafted or what kind of guy he is shouldn’t matter. You can be a bigger fan of him, but it doesn’t make him a better DT than Sam Adams or Ted Washington.
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Ted was only on the Bills in 2000 so I eliminated him—-1 year dosen’t make a best of the decade for me.
To be honest I wasn’t a Sam Adams fan, he was a good player that had some plays that stuck out but I always felt he was very inconsistent. He was OK in limited space but if he had to go 6 yards on either side of the center chasing a play he was gassed.
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Adams
He was a big DT, not a LB, so I’m not sure why you’d expect him to be running 6 yards either way??
~K
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I was being kind...
I should have said 3 yards either way, players still have to run to the ball and teams use to try and run wide on the Bills. Adams thighs were so wide that they rubbed together and sparked when he tried to pursue.
Adams was more effective when he had Pat Williams starting next to him, when Williams left Adams only lasted 1 more season.
Kyle Williams had Tripplett next to him for his first 2 years and put up very good numbers and with Stroud next to him he has blossomed.
I will say this about Adams the int he had against the Pats were he rumbled 30+ yards for a TD belongs in Buffalo Bills folklore…
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Im going with The Keg!
Him and Kyle Williams are about even with me… But Adams rumblin, bumblin, stumblin to a pick-6 off Brady takes the cake for me.
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I thought Sam Adams
he was better than Big Ted in the 2000s… had some very good years here as the main cog in the run defense
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Kyle Williams
That tackle number is ridiculous for a DT, and his being a DT, those tackles most likely were close to or behind the line of scrimmage. As far as “all decade” for the Bills in the 2000’s Ted Williams’ one good year shouldn’t put him on this team. Sam Adams WAS good for this team, and I still see him running back that INT, but I think Kyle is a good representative for the things that were good the last few years. DT’s traditionally have low tackle numbers, so for Kyle to have so many tackles, to me that is quite an impact.
Gotta go with Sam
It was so difficult to run against that line! Add in the sacks and the pick six, how could you not vote for him?
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by Schooled You on May 19, 2010 9:20 AM EDT via mobile reply actions
Voted Sam.
Ted Washington made his living in the 90’s, as great as that 2000 season was. I don’t feel it’s a knock on him by choosing Sam Adams instead. The Williams/Adams duo made the Bills an intimidating force.
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by TheAfghanTwilight on May 19, 2010 9:36 AM EDT reply actions
Kyle Williams
Ted only played for a year this decade, so i cant vote for him based on his 90’s work.
Sam was pretty good, but he was playing next to Pat Williams most of the time. He was the 3-technique, the fast disruptive DT, but we were never that good in the sacks those years. We were really good at run D, but i give more of the credit to P. Williams and L. Fletcher than Sam.
Kyle has had very little help in his five years here,(L. Tripplett, J.McCargo, and to a lesser extent M. Stroud) but hes still made a name for himself. Hes know around league circles (educated speculation), which is pretty good for playing in Buffalo, in the trenches, and as a 5th round pick (not that that makes him play any better). I just think that if you put K. Williams next to P. Williams, Kyle would out preform Sam Adams any day.
Plus, wouldn’t it be great to have had our own Williams Wall.
Adams
So you place some blame on him for the pass rush being mediocre, but then don’t give him any credit for having one of the best run defenses??? Huh!?!?
~K
"As the governor of Louisiana once said, the only way Chris Kelsay can lose his job is if he got caught in bed with a dead girl or a live boy."
Tochet, I guess i should give him more credit for the run defense, but i would still give the majority of the credit to Pat. And the pass rush was not all his fault either, in that line of thinking.
The long and the short of it is that I see Sam’s success as partly derived from his surrounding cast. Where as Kyle has always had a weaker surrounding cast around him, but has looked just as good. That make him a better player IMO.
this one will come down to the wire…
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by TheAfghanTwilight on May 19, 2010 10:14 AM EDT up reply actions
I'm sorry Kyle
I wanted to vote for K. Williams but the memory of Ted and Pat is to much to overlook. God I love those bills teams!!
Ted Washington...
Everybody that voted for Pat Williams as the best DT is blind as a bat. Bruce Smith wasn’t kidding when he called Ted Washington the best run stuffer of all time at his wall ceremony.
Washington was a cheat player, that is, a player so good at what he does, that the Bills could “cheat” by sending a LB into coverage or on a blitz because there was no way the RB was getting past TED!
When Pat and Ted were both here, Ted always got the double team, Williams simply was not that good…
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I voted P. Williams
only because big Teddy wasn’t an option the first time around. But I voted Big Ted this time. One year in the 2000’s or not, he’s by far better than the others listed IMO.
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Voted Adams because I think Washington is getting votes for people remembering his 90’s work…
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Agree
That’s the way a few of these votes have gone. Fina was good in the 90s, didn’t do much in the 2000s, but he won OT2 because of 90s memories. It’s hard to vote for someone on an all-decade team when they only played one year in that decade.
totally agree...
2000’s Adams > 2000’s Washington
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Went with Kyle Williams.
He’s the most underated player on this list. And even though he’s not winning, it’s good to finally see a decent race on these poles.
Washington? Check. Pittsburg? Check. Boston or Philly? Wont be a problem. WE'RE GOING TO THE STANLEY CUP BABY!!! GO HABS GO!!!!
by CanadianBillsFan on May 19, 2010 5:25 PM EDT reply actions
And I was looking at work done threwout this decade. To me one year on the Bills, even if you are a pro-bowler, is not enough for you to make the all-decade team. Whit the exception of rookies in 2009 of course. That why I didn’t vote for Ted. And I just prefer Kyla to Sam.
Washington? Check. Pittsburg? Check. Boston or Philly? Wont be a problem. WE'RE GOING TO THE STANLEY CUP BABY!!! GO HABS GO!!!!
by CanadianBillsFan on May 19, 2010 5:31 PM EDT up reply actions
Washington????? Not this decade.
Can I keep logging on to vote for Kyle Williams 500 times?
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Eh, thought about it some more, Washington is not so ridiculous. I suppose if the point is to choose the most talented players who played in the decade, he’s the guy
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I loved watching Teddy run over the center and the guard AT THE SAME TIME!
What a beast.
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by SERGEANT MAJOR THOR on May 19, 2010 5:42 PM EDT reply actions
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