Don't sleep on these five Bills veterans
The Buffalo Bills are full-throttle into a regime change. Again. Buddy Nix is the new GM, Chan Gailey is the new head coach, and the Bills have new assistant positional coaches, with DeMontie Cross (inside linebackers), Bob Sanders (outside linebackers) and George Catavolos (secondary) the only exceptions. Change is imminent.
Often times, new regimes cling steadfastly to "their guys," meaning that over the long haul, they replace fringe players from the old regime with their own fringe players. However, given Nix's player acquisition strategy - building competition at virtually every position across the depth chart - several young, league-tenured Bills will have a shot to earn their keep despite not being one of the new regime's hand-picked players.
I've got five players sitting right on the fringe of Buffalo's roster that fit this criteria. You'll find those five names, along with my (possibly hair-brained) rationale for inclusion, after the jump. Feel free to add your own names to the list in the comments section.
WR Felton Huggins. Buffalo is currently undertaking a full-blown youth movement at the receiver position, which makes the 27-year-old Huggins seem like a grizzled veteran compared to most of Buffalo's depth chart. The Bills have been targeting not only youth, but size outside, drafting Marcus Easley (6'2") and signing undrafted free agents Naaman Roosevelt (6'0"), Donald Jones (6'2") and David Nelson (6'5") to compete with James Hardy (6'5"), Steve Johnson (6'2") and Chad Jackson (6'1"). I see no reason why the 6'2" Huggins shouldn't be a part of those conversations - he's stuck on the Bills' practice squad on the merit of two consecutive strong training camps, and with a strong pre-season could crack the roster if the younger guys disappoint.
TE Jonathan Stupar. It's still not precisely clear exactly how Gailey plans to utilize the tight end position in his offense, but we do know that the team really only has one receiving threat at the position, and that's second-year man Shawn Nelson. Gailey will, however, run the ball frequently, which means he'll need better blocking from his tight end group. Michael Matthews (6'4", 270) will get all the hype here, but I still consider Stupar the best pound-for-pound blocking tight end on Buffalo's roster. In fact, I think he's the closest thing to the complete TE package that Buffalo has, despite his only having five career receptions. Stupar's a great rotational player - he's a smart, heady blocker, a solid short-area receiver, and gives you everything he's got on every snap. I think he's got a great shot to make the team as a third tight end, possibly beating out Derek Schouman to do so.
OT Jason Watkins. You don't need me to tell you that the left tackle position is a complete crapshoot at the moment. Demetrius Bell is the early favorite, but he's also a complete wild card coming off a serious ACL injury. Jamon Meredith gets a little love here and there, but I think his athletic skills are slightly overrated, and believe his best shot at sticking will come on the right side or as a swing tackle/guard. Ed Wang will get the majority of the "project" and "future starter" labels, but the guy I'm highest on is Watkins. I think he's much more naturally gifted than Wang is, and the only thing holding him back at the moment is a lack of experience - he didn't start playing football until his junior year of high school. Watkins is an excellent athlete with ideal height (6'6") and length (34.4" arms and 10.5" hands). He's a darkhorse candidate to compete for the starting left tackle job to my eye.
NT Marlon Favorite. Insofar as 3-4 nose tackles go, the Bills still really only employ one, and that's second-round pick Torell Troup. Kyle Williams will get snaps at the nose spot, obviously, but Buffalo - likely to keep seven defensive linemen on their opening-day roster - could use a primary backup to Troup's two-gap run-plugging role. Favorite doesn't give you much athletically, but the 6'1", 317-pound NFL sophomore is brutally strong at the point of attack and can control two blockers because of it. He's not a great pursuit player, but in that limited role as Troup's primary backup, Favorite is definitely worth a look at the back end of Buffalo's roster.
CB Lydell Sargeant. There isn't a ton of wiggle room in Buffalo's defensive backfield, as the team already has established rotations at cornerback and safety. The depth chart won't change much at the top at corner, and it already looks to be locked down at safety. It's not yet clear how many corners Buffalo will keep - they'll need to concentrate the majority of their personnel resources at linebacker - but currently, the fifth and sixth corners appear to be Ashton Youboty and Cary Harris. Ellis Lankster will get most of the "darkhorse corner" pub, and with good reason - he's a gifted player. But don't sleep on Sargeant, either. Depending on how his return from knee surgery goes, I think Sargeant has as much natural talent as fourth corner Reggie Corner, and he's got better ball skills to boot. He lacks straight-line speed, so his NFL effectiveness is essentially limited to the slot, but I think in time and with ample opportunity he could emerge as an excellent slot corner.
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Didn’t know much about him but now I’m intrigued. Hope to see a lot more from him during the pre season. I like Sergeant as well, and think he could be a very good 4th corner. I’m not a huge fan of Stupar, seem to remember him dropping some very catchable balls in the regular season. I liked Huggins last year in the pre season, I thought him and Hawthorne played well.As for Favorite, anything we get from him production wise, is all gravy.
The player I would like least at #9 would be my sister’s cat, Captain Creamsicle. She does have a great work ethic and agility, but I’m really concerned that at 9 lbs., she’s too small to play safety in the NFL. She also bites way too often on play action and is easily distracted by someone waving string in the crowd. Lastly, her wonderlic score was pretty awful, answering "meow meow meow" for most of the questions- Dr. Brackish Okun
Favorite’s the only guy on this list that isn’t a holdover from the last regime, which kind of makes him unique in that he’s already one of this regime’s “guys.” I still included him here because when we’re talking about NTs, the talk kind of dies down after Williams and Troup, and it shouldn’t.
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by Brian Galliford on May 4, 2010 1:10 PM EDT up reply actions
What separates Favorite from L. Harvey?
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by NorCal BillsFan on May 4, 2010 4:34 PM EDT up reply actions
30 lbs of lard...........to start
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by norcaliangelsfan on May 4, 2010 5:23 PM EDT up reply actions
Yep, that’s about it. Also the fact that Favorite is a “this regime guy,” while Harvey is a “last regime guy.” That stuff matters.
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by Brian Galliford on May 5, 2010 7:41 AM EDT up reply actions
I wouldn’t miss Huggins one bit if he got canned.
I would love to see more of Favorite… if memory serves me well either DJ, or Fewell was talking highly of him as a NT prospect. I think long term, he has a better chance of staying on the team than Kyle Williams has. Williams is almost the odd man out, and I could very easily see him gone after this season.
If I only had a brain...
You’re thinking of Lonnie Harvey, not Favorite. Favorite was signed in January, after Nix had already taken over as GM.
And as for your first line, I think all of these guys kind of fit that mold – which is why I penned this article in the first place.
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by Brian Galliford on May 4, 2010 1:09 PM EDT up reply actions
Randomly
Isn’t Harvey bigger than Favorite, weight wise?
The player I would like least at #9 would be my sister’s cat, Captain Creamsicle. She does have a great work ethic and agility, but I’m really concerned that at 9 lbs., she’s too small to play safety in the NFL. She also bites way too often on play action and is easily distracted by someone waving string in the crowd. Lastly, her wonderlic score was pretty awful, answering "meow meow meow" for most of the questions- Dr. Brackish Okun
Harvey’s 6’3", 342. Favorite is 6’1", 317.
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by Brian Galliford on May 4, 2010 1:44 PM EDT up reply actions
I really know nothing about these two players. But based on you putting Favorite on the list instead of Harvey, I take that as Favorite is a much stronger player, because Harveys got quite a bit of size over him.
If one were to make the team it would be Favorite as the… favorite right? lol
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I list Favorite ahead of Harvey because a) Favorite more closely resembles the profile of the NT that this regime seems to covet (a.k.a. not a fat slob), and b) Favorite was actually acquired by this regime.
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by Brian Galliford on May 4, 2010 1:50 PM EDT up reply actions
Alright cool. Thanks. Yeah we’re not looking to go with the giant in the middle. More of the athletic but still big type.
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I wish Harvey could do something
he has perfect size
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the left tackle position is a complete crapshoot
Through all the draft conjecture and FA period, most everyone expected the LT position to be job #1 (including me). As everything unfolded. it became even more quizzical with CHIX paying little to no attention to it.
One theory is/was that “they know something the rest of us don’t”. Perhaps, that something is Watkins. That’s the quizzical part…what are they seeing that hasn’t manifested itself. Is our untrained eye that myopic?
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Rec'd for the use of "myopic"
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by NorCal BillsFan on May 4, 2010 4:36 PM EDT up reply actions
Digging deep for some guys, eh Brian?
It pains me to think any of these guys have legit shots at making the team!
Well, I like Watkins and think he could develop into a swing tackle for us. His blend of excellent size and athleticism makes him a very intriguing prospect. He’s also a former TE that only starting playing Tackle midway through his college career. He started a dozen games at LT during his junior year and 14 at RT in his senior year, so he does have solid experience considering it came at Florida in the SEC. I’m actually surprised that he hasn’t been talked about more. Based on his size/athleticism/potential alone, I think he could really push for a job this year. I think I like him more than Meredith and Wang, in those areas. We’ll see how he performs this summer, but I’m looking forward to him sinking or swimming. Plus, hey maybe we’ll strike gold with another former TE named Jason from an SEC school….
Huggins, meh. I haven’t seen anything out of him to prove he’s capable of succeeding in an NFL regular season. I’d rather see guys like Hardy, Johnson, Easley, Jones, Jackson and Nelson get the reps. We have a ton of developmental guys, and those guys are all younger. Huggins is a 27 year old that hasn’t been able to make the team after numerous attempts. I’d much rather let those other guys duke it out in the preseason.
I’d like to see if Favorite or Lonnie Harvey have any chance of being a rotational NT. I’m guessing it’s going to be tough for either. Is Favorite really that strong?
Lydell Sargent has no shot of making the team. Coming off the knee injury and being stuck behind a number of veteran players really doesn’t give him much of a chance. Maybe he’ll get his shot on the Practice Squad.
I think Sargeant has as much natural talent as fourth corner Reggie Corner
Haha. That’s not a compliment I hope!
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I’m actually surprised that he (Watkins) hasn’t been talked about more.
Exactly why I brought him up.
As for Sargeant – nope, not a compliment, just an observation. I don’t think the knee injury will be a big issue, either, as he’ll have had a full 11 months of rehab by the time training camp rolls around.
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by Brian Galliford on May 4, 2010 1:18 PM EDT up reply actions
. He’s also a former TE that only starting playing Tackle
I’m noticing a trend with the Bills and former TE’s lol.
The player I would like least at #9 would be my sister’s cat, Captain Creamsicle. She does have a great work ethic and agility, but I’m really concerned that at 9 lbs., she’s too small to play safety in the NFL. She also bites way too often on play action and is easily distracted by someone waving string in the crowd. Lastly, her wonderlic score was pretty awful, answering "meow meow meow" for most of the questions- Dr. Brackish Okun
and Scott will take place at TE...
for his next step in development…
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I would hope Sargeant has a chance to make the team
It’s not like Reggie Corner and Ashton Youboty have done anything with their reserved roster spots under the old guard. I’m hoping there are several training camp surprise cuts that open the door for different players. It would be a positive sign that there’s a new set of eyes making decisions at the very least.
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Wouldnt care if any these guys were looking for work else where in August.........
Although Stupar got kind of a cult following around here last year……………..
I would be sad if he made the team over Schouman………….
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by norcaliangelsfan on May 4, 2010 1:18 PM EDT reply actions
LOL – again, that attitude is precisely why I wrote this article, and why I worded the headline the way I did. People routinely shrug these guys off, but that shouldn’t happen.
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by Brian Galliford on May 4, 2010 1:20 PM EDT up reply actions
okay but Im looking at this realistically...........
do you really think any of these guys are gonna offer anything of real value to the team if they do make it?
I mean if we’re expecting something good out of these five guys………then that says something else about the team that I dont really feel like getting into (and Im sure others dont want me to get into either haha)
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by norcaliangelsfan on May 4, 2010 1:26 PM EDT up reply actions
Yes. I do think these five guys have something to offer, even if they make it. Which, again, is why I wrote the article.
As to your second point, that’s kind of the subtext, yes. But these are talented dudes nonetheless.
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by Brian Galliford on May 4, 2010 1:45 PM EDT up reply actions
I like Stupar...
like many others here…I think it is because of his try hard attitude…he has an edge to him that I appreciate.
I understand you rationale for having the TEs line up in order of: Nelson (receiving threat), Matthews (blocking), and Stupar (all around TE); leaving Schouman the odd man out, but I would rather have Schouman play an Hback role than release him. I like him more than our current non-blocking FB. I know the roster size will limit our numbers at the TE position, but I love to be able to keep all four and upgrade the FB position.
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by NorCal BillsFan on May 4, 2010 4:42 PM EDT up reply actions
By upgrade the FB position...
I was referring to bringing in some UDFAs to push C-Mac off the team…he has always left me wanting more, from someone else.
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by NorCal BillsFan on May 4, 2010 4:45 PM EDT up reply actions
good point...
and without looking, I don’t think we have signed any competition for him, have we???
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I like Stupar a lot too. Hope he makes the team and gets on the field more.
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by SERGEANT MAJOR THOR on May 4, 2010 4:45 PM EDT up reply actions
I agree with you Brian.
Too many people are quick to judge the talent of these players based on last year’s production. I feel it is unfair to these guys. With new schemes on both offense and defense and new coaches, any, or all, of these guys could be significant contributors this year. Let’s hope so!
I like these different groups of 5-6 players stories...
If any of these cats made the team and were contributing that would be awesome. The one that intreagues me in Favorite. We dont have a clear cut NT. Sure T-Rex and Troupe are most likely going to be #1 and #2 on the depth chart. But if Favorite can come in to spell these guys and eat up space then thats successful.
And Huggins has been a pretty good gunner the last few years, taking over for Sam Aiken. Idk if thats enough to hang around this year. But with only Evans being the only real, set WR. There are going to be about 7-8 guys going for 4-5 spots. Should bring out the best in all of them.
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Jonathan Stupar.
If I’m not mistaken Stupar was pretty impresive in preseason last year, were he led in catches but didn’t get much of a chance to play during the season.
As for any other one on that list got to root for OT Jason Watkins just because of the position he plays( might have another Jason Peters)
I was going to say the same thing. After preseason 2009 I was convinced that Stupar was our future starting TE, her was leading the league in pre-season at some point. Then I heard very little from him during the year (granted I didn’t hear much about anyone except Fred on the offense last year). I am hoping that the pre-season wasn’t a fluke and Gailey puts him to good use.
Great article Brian. Hopefully at least one of these guys is a diamond in the rough.
I don’t think there is any way Felton Huggins is on this team next season because of the youth movement.
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Let me elaborate. Marcus Easley got on the field at UCONN based on his special teams ability. I think he’ll be able to replace Huggins there and should have more upside at WR, too. I’m not sleeping on Huggins, I just think he got replaced.
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by MattRichWarren on May 4, 2010 2:01 PM EDT up reply actions
How would Easley replace Huggins on ST's?
Huggins has never made the team….
I think guys like Chad Jackson, Donald Jones and David Nelson have been brought in to push Huggins out the door. Easley was drafted in the 4th round because the staff believes he’ll be a contributor on offense, not to replace a PS WR in Huggins.
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I agree Easley was drafted to play WR
but he can play STs too, I am sure they expect him, making Huggins value slightly less.
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by NorCal BillsFan on May 4, 2010 4:47 PM EDT up reply actions
Your still in Bobby April mode K...
with people on the team only for ST… Under DeHaven, even Tasker and Pike saw the field on offense and defense respectively…. I don’t think this team will be any different than those of old… If you can’t contribute at least something to the rest of the team, your not gonna be there just for ST anymore…
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I am?
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I read it again...
sorry, took it wrong…
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fun fact: While with the Bills, Sam Aiken averaged more catches per season than Steve Tasker did. Dehaven had no problem keeping players to only play special teams. Every team in the league keeps players who only play special teams. Let’s just hope the Bills are done spending 4th, 5th and 6th rounders on players who can contribute early on specials and then never develop into offensive or defensive contributers.
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Well yes… but Easley will start out on special teams replacing Justin Jenkins (that’s who I was thinking of before) or John Wendling.
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by MattRichWarren on May 4, 2010 9:27 PM EDT up reply actions
Except Jason Watkins
We can sub him out for……
by #1 pick in '11 on May 4, 2010 2:07 PM EDT up reply actions
It greatly saddens me that only 11 people want to talk about Jason Watkins. C’mon, man.
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I dont know enought about him
to have an informed opinion. Never seen him play, if I did, I didn’t know who he was.
Maybe you should do an article on all the LTs expected to compete for the starting LT spot and the reserve spot. : )
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by NorCal BillsFan on May 4, 2010 4:49 PM EDT up reply actions
Watkins
Any particular reason you’re so much higher on Watkins than other unknowns like Andre Ramsey? Considering that Buffalo promoted Ramsey instead of Watkins last year (and that he actually saw the field), I’m curious.
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I think that had more to do with the fact that Ramsey was on the roster before Watkins was.
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by Brian Galliford on May 5, 2010 7:43 AM EDT up reply actions
jason at tackle?...hmmm
hopefully im not reading this wrong but it sounds like we have a project tackle (Jason Watkins) who has all the physical tools to play left tackle in this league, just so happens he used to play tight end. maybe, just maybe this guy can become a stud left tackle for us. it sounds alot like another jason we had here not long ago. what do you all think?
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Who cares, the team will still suck. Even if they fo keep these guys for now, in a year or two they will be gone, more than likely.
Man if you start every comment like that you might have a future… at another blog. We all care and generally regardless of if the team is good or not. If you don’t care there are plenty of other places to let people know about that.
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by MattRichWarren on May 4, 2010 9:29 PM EDT up reply actions
Were you adressing that comment
To yourself? lol
The player I would like least at #9 would be my sister’s cat, Captain Creamsicle. She does have a great work ethic and agility, but I’m really concerned that at 9 lbs., she’s too small to play safety in the NFL. She also bites way too often on play action and is easily distracted by someone waving string in the crowd. Lastly, her wonderlic score was pretty awful, answering "meow meow meow" for most of the questions- Dr. Brackish Okun
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by Brian Galliford on May 5, 2010 7:44 AM EDT up reply actions
I’m in the corner of the Michael Matthews “hype”- I thought he was fairly eye-catching as a blocking tight end on the Giants Super Bowl run a few years back and that’s a hard thing to pull off in such a nondescript role…I see Matthews battling Klopfenstein and Schouman battling Stupar for the two spots alongside Nelson in 2010…I have to admit, I’m not seeing where the Stupar praise is coming from. I might have been fairly bitter by the time he started seeing playing time last year and wasn’t paying attention as intently as I’d usually expect…Anyone know if Gailey tends to employ a FB? That question probably dictates whether 3 or 4 TEs make the team.
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He was doing well against 2nd- and 3rd-teamers in the preseason last year. It wasn’t so much his athleticism as his ability to find a soft spot in the coverage that had people impressed. At least, that’s why I was impressed(ish). I think people were hoping that he’d elevate his game after that. It didn’t really happen last year, even with the massive injuries. Oh well, there’s always next year!
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I already like the strategy being employed by Nix and Gailey. Instead of starting on name recognition alone, it should be talent. The best players will play, nobody gets an advantage. I’m so excited for training camp to see if any of these players step up and take jobs. Were due for some good luck here. I’m so sick of hearing all the bills negativity. I love the thought of giving everyone a clean slate and letting them compete. This is how you find the diamonds in the rough on your roster! DJ would never have the courage to try it, but this is actually exciting. I don’t think were goin to the superbowl, but I honestly think were gonna be a lot better than people give us credit for. At the very least, were not gonna be an easy out.
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