Buffalo Bills 2000s Worst-Decade Team - QB Selection

by CanadianBillsFan on Jun 14, 2010 11:46 PM EDT

About a month ago MattRichWarrenpresented us with his Buffalo Bills 2000s All-Decade Team series. And for about a month we voted on a series of poles to determine who was worthy of being on that team. But more often than not we also ended up complaining over ~~the limited~~ sometimes horrible talent that we had to pick from for any given position. So it was about at the TE position that I thought "hey why don't we also vote on the worst players that played for this team over the last decade?" And so here we are.

Now just like MattRichWarren'sseries I have a few criteria for players to be eligible for this team. They had to have played in at least a full season's worth of games in this decade to be eligible. Starting is not requirement, but you do have to have played significant amounts of snaps in those games. That means that, for example, the Bills3rd receiver might make the list, but a 4th or 5th stringer wont be considered. That means that we wont end up voting for 7th rounders that ended up playing 2 snaps. These are going to be real players that played real roles on this team over the last ten years. And just because a player ended up on the All-Decade team does not mean that you can't also be on the worst-decade team.

First up the QB position. Now this has been a position that has been covered in awful ever since the team let Doug Flutie go to free agency in 20, some would even argue that it's been since Jim Kelly's retirement. So needless to say, we have no lack of options for this vote.

Now these players are named in order of when they played for the Bills, and not in order of how much they sucked.

Rob Johnson
Johnson was drafted in the 4th round in 1995 by the Jacksonville Jaguars. And after a good season as a backup for the Jags in 1997 the Bills trade a 1st and a 4throunder for him. In this decade Johnson played for the Bills in 2000 and 2001, participating in 21 games, while starting in 20. He had 522 attempts with 309 completions that were good for 3590 yards. He also had 17 TD's and 14 INT's. In those games Johnson also led the Bills to a lowly 5 -14 record. The Bills let him walk after the end of the 2001 season. By the end of Johnson's Buffalo career, he earned both enviable and dubious Bills career records. Johnson boasts both the best completion percentage and the worst sack-to-dropback ratio in Bills history. Johnson's reluctance to throw the ball away earned him the nickname "Robo-sack."

J.P Losman
Drafted in the 1st round of the 2004 draft. He sat the bench for the first year, backing up Drew Bledsoe. He then went on to start games in the next 4 seasons for the Bills. He had 941 attempst for 558 completions and 6211 yards. He had 33 TD's and 34 INT's and a 10-23 record. The Bills let him walk in favor of QB Trent Edwards at the end of the 2008 season.

Trent Edwards
Edwards was drafted by the Bills in the 3rd round of the 2007 draft. He started games in 2007 after J.P. Losman went down to injury and continued to fight him for the team's starting job until the end of the 2008 season, a fight which he won. He went on to lose his starting job to Ryan Fitzpatrick in 2009. He had 826 attempts for 506 completions and 5,498 yards. Those went for 24 TD's and 25 INTs. He also amased record of 14-16 for the Bills. Edwards is still on the team right now and has a shot of regaining his starting job with the arrival of new head coach Chan Gailey.

Exclusions: Drew Bledsoe and Ryan Fitzpatrick.

Bledsoe is excluded from this poll for having the Bills only winning record this decade, as well as setting new team records. Fitzpatrick for the fact that he has not participated in a season's worth of games for the Bills and only became the Team's starter after the Bills fired Dick Jauron.

Poll

Which Bills QB was the worst of the last decade?

Rob Johnson

414 votes

J.P. Losman

237 votes

Trent Edwards

97 votes

748 votes | Poll has closed

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Even though he was only here for 2 seasons in the 00’s. Im going with Rob Johnson. Hate him. Cant stand him. I was so ticked when we went with Johnson over Flutie. Me and my dad bought Flutie Chargers jerseys we would wear to the game. Johnson fan sat right in front of us, hated us. But I didnt care. That was such a big mistake… But I never minded Losman, kind of felt sorry for him. And the jury is still out on Edwards… but hes no Johnson yet. Just think we could have had Fred Taylor with that 1st round pick :-/

And Im so ready for this series CBF. haha

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by bflo on Jun 15, 2010 12:14 AM EDT reply actions

Looking forward to write the rest. Thinking this might be a theroputic expirience.

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by CanadianBillsFan on Jun 15, 2010 12:46 AM EDT up reply actions

I was torn between JP and Johnson

I went with JP because he had more INTs than TDs…. and CBF mercifully left out the stats on fumbles.

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by Joe P. on Jun 15, 2010 12:29 AM EDT reply actions

Went with Johnson myself. Can’t get past the 5-14 record.

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by CanadianBillsFan on Jun 15, 2010 12:46 AM EDT up reply actions

Exactly........JP had more games to prove he sucked

by Joe P. on Jun 15, 2010 8:26 AM EDT up reply actions

I should probably have left out my feelings on these players, because I might have voted for Losman. Though his one season at 3k and more TDs kept me from saying he was the worst. He certainly did love his fumbles though.

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by TheAfghanTwilight on Jun 15, 2010 1:15 PM EDT up reply actions

Losman had a better arm,

just made too many mistakes.

Johnson was just bad

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by billsoferie on Jun 15, 2010 7:09 AM EDT up reply actions

Johnson was one forward lateral from the playoffs

by Joe P. on Jun 15, 2010 8:29 AM EDT up reply actions

better team around him

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by billsoferie on Jun 15, 2010 12:04 PM EDT up reply actions

Flutie got him to that point. Johnson played a good game, but he wouldn’t have deserved the glory, in my book.

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by TheAfghanTwilight on Jun 15, 2010 12:50 PM EDT up reply actions

Oh....I agree.....just saying if JP was the QB for that game

the Titians would have won on a pick 6 or recovered a JP fumble for a TD.

by Joe P. on Jun 15, 2010 12:53 PM EDT up reply actions

Or Losman would have run backwards into the endzone. I can’t believe how much Donahoe fell in love with that long pass of his. that and his happy legs were his only attributes.

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by TheAfghanTwilight on Jun 15, 2010 1:14 PM EDT up reply actions

it was mularky who wanted him

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by Gpluehri on Jun 15, 2010 1:24 PM EDT up reply actions

Mularkey!

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by TheAfghanTwilight on Jun 15, 2010 4:51 PM EDT up reply actions

Correction: the Bills amazing defense was one forward lateral from winning a playoff game.

by Dr. Brackish Okun on Jun 17, 2010 1:06 AM EDT up reply actions

Oh and if you guys could rec this so it stays up for a while that would be great.

Well you know… if you think it deserves the rec.

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by CanadianBillsFan on Jun 15, 2010 12:47 AM EDT reply actions

done

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by bflo on Jun 15, 2010 1:14 AM EDT up reply actions

Sellout!

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by Kurupt on Jun 15, 2010 1:57 AM EDT up reply actions

Just rec the damn thing K. :)

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by CanadianBillsFan on Jun 15, 2010 2:13 AM EDT up reply actions

Johnson for me.

I think JP might have been better had he not been thrown into the fire so soon, Trent had a good enough season in 2008 to get him off the hook for being the worst.

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by UZ on Jun 15, 2010 2:18 AM EDT reply actions

I went with Johnson

never liked him, period.

by blknites on Jun 15, 2010 6:26 AM EDT reply actions

I’d like to know anyone would vote for Edwards with his competition here.Really, please explain.

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by BigEasyBillsKrewe on Jun 15, 2010 10:21 AM EDT reply actions

Went with Rob Johnson. Losman at least had one very good season where he was over 3000 yards passing and had more TDs and INTs.
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by MattRichWarren on Jun 15, 2010 11:24 AM EDT reply actions

of course it’s Rob Johnson – he cost us an arm and a leg too

We got the tools, We got the talent

by J2 on Jun 15, 2010 11:36 AM EDT up reply actions

And what did JP cost us?

by Joe P. on Jun 15, 2010 12:55 PM EDT up reply actions

an arm and a leg. but JP at least flashed something – Johnson never did

We got the tools, We got the talent

by J2 on Jun 15, 2010 1:20 PM EDT up reply actions

johnson cost was pick 9 round one pick 9 round 4

the jags used the first round pick on fred taylor and the fourth on tavian banks

jp cost was a 2004 second round pick 11 and a 2005 first round
the 2004 second round pick the cowgirls turned into julius jones ( colts picked bob sanders 1 spot behind ) and the 2005 first rounder they turned into marcus spears

by Gpluehri on Jun 15, 2010 1:33 PM EDT up reply actions

Ouch!!!!!!!!!!

by Joe P. on Jun 15, 2010 6:46 PM EDT up reply actions

Johnson should be the MVP of this team

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by Dyl on Jun 17, 2010 12:54 PM EDT up reply actions

rec'd

Had to go with Johnson barely remember him playing but looking back at the stats and how much my Dad hated him had to be him.

by brucesmithistheman on Jun 15, 2010 11:51 AM EDT reply actions

This shall be fun...

not to nitpick but I notice you continuously type “pole” when in fact it’s “poll” you’re looking for. =)

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by TheAfghanTwilight on Jun 15, 2010 12:01 PM EDT reply actions

I’m french canadian and dyslexic. Take your pick on what you want to blame it on. And no me simp.y being an ididot that can’t spell isn’t an option ;-)

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by CanadianBillsFan on Jun 15, 2010 7:10 PM EDT up reply actions

I went with Johnson

mainly because of what bringing him in did to the franchise. It cost the team a 1st and 4th (for a damned backup). He also was the main player in the rift between Flutie, Phillips, and the rest of the organization.

I still dislike Losman more than Johnson, though. He seemed to get worse as he got more experience. He’d come in and throw a bomb (Jets game, AZ game) then shut down the rest of the day.

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by TheAfghanTwilight on Jun 15, 2010 12:05 PM EDT reply actions

Johnson gets blamed for the Flutie thing.....not his fault

by Joe P. on Jun 15, 2010 12:57 PM EDT up reply actions

Not not his fault either. They hated each other and did nothing to help unify the team. Flutie was just so much better and I don’t think the organization had planned on that being the case.

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by TheAfghanTwilight on Jun 15, 2010 1:00 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs

Rec'd

One of, if not, the worst front office/coaching mistakes in Buffalo sports history.

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by bflo on Jun 15, 2010 8:09 PM EDT up reply actions

Went for Johnson simply on the W-L, not that there was much in it.

Also Johnson had better players and coaches around him, should have done better

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by gregeng on Jun 15, 2010 1:33 PM EDT reply actions

Although J.P. sucked....

I hated Rob-job even more. Watching him lose every week until he got hurt, and then Dougie coming in and helping us win just drove me nuts.
I will NEVER forgive Wade for benching Doug and playing Rob in the Music City Miracle game. Never. I had tickets for me and my wife and she was so pissed that she did not go with me. Rob played “okay” that game for once.
Doug would’ve had us up by more points, so that BS kick return would’ve been moot.

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by SERGEANT MAJOR THOR on Jun 15, 2010 5:40 PM EDT reply actions

ROBOSACK

For all of the above reasons and his long hair/ headband weird thing going on.

by o.c.blazerfan on Jun 16, 2010 1:35 PM EDT reply actions

This will be a great series!

I have seen every qb in the long and sorry history of our beloved Bills. It has not been pretty (Kelly, Ferguson and Kemp excluded). In the beginning the dynamic Ralph machine saw fit to draft as their first pick ever Penn State qb Richie “Riverboat” Lucas. He was just horrible. The Wilson brain trust saw fit to back up Ritchie with Tommy O’Connell who had been retired for 3 years. That strategy (back up a rookie with a retiree) has probably never been repeated. Needless to say. he was also horrible. Rob Johnson followed in the tradition set by Lucas and O’Connell. Trading a 1st and 4th round pick for a guy who had basically played one good game off the bench was moronic. RJ has my vote!

by jpheff on Jun 16, 2010 8:03 PM EDT reply actions

Johnson’s biggest fault was his fragility. If he could have stayed on the field he would have been much better. J.P. had 1 okay year then just stunk. I went with J.P.

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by sireric on Jun 17, 2010 9:59 AM EDT reply actions

Interested to see worst season of the decade

by dwwhite190 on Jun 17, 2010 11:40 AM EDT reply actions

Rob Johnson is so bad

that it defies any reading of statistics. That’s the thing. Those who never saw him play just don’t understand. His statistics were inexplicably pretty good. He could run and pass well. But how many wins did he lead the team to? Could he really even play quarterback at the NFL level? He is the all-time leader in NFL history in sacks per pass attempts. In NFL history!

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by Dyl on Jun 17, 2010 12:52 PM EDT reply actions

i still believe JP was the most inept qbs the bills have ever had

showed flashes from time to time, but even when he did, he did something spectacularly bone-headed the same game. wasnt a big fan when the drafted him, and he never di anything to prove me wrong.

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by silverstreak3k on Jun 17, 2010 1:15 PM EDT reply actions