Buffalo Bills 2000s Worst-Decade Team - WR 1 Selection
About a month ago MattRichWarrenpresented us with his Buffalo Bills 2000s All-Decade Team series. And for about a month we voted on a series of poles to determine who was worthy of being on that team. But more often than not we also ended up complaining over the limited sometimes horrible talent that we had to pick from for any given position. So it was about at the TE position that I thought "hey why don't we also vote on the worst players that played for this team over the last decade?" And so here we are.
Now just like MattRichWarren'sseries I have a few criteria for players to be eligible for this team. They had to have played in at least a full season's worth of games in this decade to be eligible. Starting is not requirement, but you do have to have played significant amounts of snaps in those games. That means that, for example, the Bills 3rd receiver might make the list, but a 4th or 5th stringer wont be considered. That means that we wont end up voting for 7th rounders that ended up playing 2 snaps. These are going to be real players that played real roles on this team over the last ten years. And just because a player ended up on the All-Decade team does not mean that you can't also be on the worst-decade team.
The wide receiver position is a hard one to play in the NFL. It's generally one where you either make it or you don't, there are no true grey areas at this position. Here in Buffalo we have seen good talent at this position over the last decade, having seen players like Pierless Price, Eric Moulds, Lee Evans and Terrell Owens. But we have also shown the terrible inability to back them up withany true depth. After all the best receiver that we have had after the previously named four WR's is Josh Reed. When your decade's 5th best WR has never caught for more than 600 yards in a season, you know your in trouble.
I'm handling this position a little differently than I have the previous 3 instalment. As I've said before WR is a position where you either make it or you don't, and the Bills have seen A LOT of "don'ts" in the last decade. So instead of needing at least a season's worth of played games, which would have put a lot of special teamers that didn't really factor into the receiving game on the list, I'm putting the bar at a minimum of 20 receptions in a Bills uniform. So while giving respect to the 4 truly good receivers (Price, Moulds, Evans and Owens) that have played for the Bills over the last decade, this list will be composed of the 5 remaining WR's that have had at least 20 receptions for the Bills.
Jeremy McDaniel
McDaniel played in three seasons for the Bills, two of them in this decade, mostly as a slot option or 4th receiver. He joined the Bills in 1999 as an undrafted free agent and stayed until the end of the 2001 season. In that time he played in 23 games for the Bills, starting in 6 of them (all in 2000). During those games he caught 54 passes for 826 yards and 2 TDs. He had a good year in 2000, hauling in 43 passes for 697 yards and both of his career TD's. His career year was followed by a lack luster campaign in 2001, after which he was released from the Bills and never seen from again in the NFL.
Josh Reed
Drafted in the second round (36th overall) of the 2002 NFL draft, Reed played 8 seasons for the Bills. Early in his career he was counted on as a slot option for the Bills, used in tandem with Price and Moulds. He was later used as a starter opposite Lee Evans, a position that many have argued he should have never been in. Reed played in 115 games for the Bills, with 52 starts. He amassed 311 receptions for 3757 yards, but only 10 TD's. While putting up decent numbers, and being clearly the best receiver on this list, Reed never did live up to his second round billing and never did seem to find the endzone as much as we would have liked. The Bills let Reed walk away after the end of the last season, and he has recently signed with the San Diego Chargers.
Bobby Shaw
Shaw's stint with the Bills was brief, having only played a little bit more than a season for the Bills. He was signed as a free agent in 2003 after being released from the Jacksonville Jaguars in 2002. He played 20 games for the Bills, starting in 7 of them. He had 61 receptions for 791 yards and 4 TD's. He had an impressive year in 2003, receiving 56 passes for 732 yards and all 4 of his TD's as a Bill, but was released 4 games into the 2004 campaign after proving to be ineffective in the new head coach's offense.
Sam Aiken
Ok so I lied, you only need 19 receptions as a Bills to make it onto this list. Aiken was drafted by the Bills in the 4th round of the 2003 draft. He spent 5 seasons in a Bills uniform, mostly playing on special teams. He played in 64 games as a Bill, starting in 2 of them in 2005. He had, you guessed it, 19 receptions, for 250 yards and no TD's in his 5 seasons with us. He was released at the end of the 2007 campaign and signed with the rival Patriots, where he has had his most successful season in 2009, catching 20 passes for 326 yards and 2 TD's.
Roscoe Parrish
Parrish was drafted in the 2nd round of the 2005 draft by the Bills, and while easily being the decade's best punt returner, has failed to do anything impressive as a wide receiver. In his 5 seasons as a Bill he has played in 67 games, starting 6 of them. He has amassed 100 receptions for 1086 yards and 5 TD's. He asked for a trade during the 2008-2009 off season, but failed to receive one. He remains a Bill to this day, but it can be argued that his inability to run proper routes is putting him on the bubble of this roster.
Well there you have it folks, the most talented depth receivers for the Bills over the last ten years. Now you guys can all go vote as I go pour myself a drink.
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I can't vote for Aiken
He made it to 19 catches by being so good on ST that we had to have him active and just being active eventually earned him enough. He was an ST man and as such I can’t possibly vote for him here. Simply put he wasn’t a receiver who happened to get ST time, he was an ST guy who happened to get receiving time. To me, he is exactly the kind of guy that this
Which would have put a lot of special teamers that didn’t really factor into the receiving game on the list
was meant to avoid, except Aiken was such a good ST guy that he did eventually accumulate almost 20 receptions.
I included him on the receptions, and the fact that he was drafted in the 4th round as a wide receiver and the Bills wanted to use him as a WR when he was drafted. Yes he turned out to be an STer first, but he was also a receiver…. plus I didn’t want to only put up 4 names for this poll because it would mean that we would have only 3 WRs to choose from for the second spot.. Feel free to not vote for him, there are 4 other names up there.
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by CanadianBillsFan on Jun 25, 2010 2:32 AM EDT up reply actions
I think Parrish has to win this hands down, especially since he still pontificates about what a great receiver he is and how the team just isn’ using him properly.
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Yeah, big disappointment for a 2nd round pick
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definitely. out of all of the WRs on this list, it’s clear that he’s the poorest in quality compared to his draft selection.
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hmmm
A little confused to have WR1 on a “worst” list. None of these guys were #1’s, but shouldn’t the #3 worst receiver be worse than the #2 and #1? Or better? I’m confused…
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All of our #1s and most of our #2s were actually very good, and have no business being on a “decade’s worst” team. Don’t look at it as the worst #1 receiver that we had, but rather simply the worst often used receiver that we had.
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by CanadianBillsFan on Jun 25, 2010 2:34 AM EDT up reply actions
Roscoe. Second round pick.
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by MattRichWarren on Jun 24, 2010 10:13 PM EDT reply actions
honestly i think reed is worse than parrish
reed was drafted as a wr parrish was drafted as a return guy
and is it parrishs problem if they cant use him properly if i was gailey i would be thinking bout screens and reverses with parrish
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but this isnt asking for worst return man
just worst wr, and parrish is a 2wr. im excited to see if gailey can get more out of him this season, as it seems the highlights are a lot about him, but dude has been disappointing at the wr position so far for such a high draft pick.
and no one picked in the second round is drafted only as a return guy….(and only a punt return guy at that)
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by silverstreak3k on Jun 24, 2010 11:51 PM EDT up reply actions
Agree with everything you just said Silver. You don’t draft a guy in the second round to only return punts for you.
But I am very much looking forward to seeing if Gailey can turn Roscoe into a weapon or if it will simply be business as usual with Parrish. I’m hoping for good things, but I’m not holding my breath either.
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by CanadianBillsFan on Jun 25, 2010 2:36 AM EDT up reply actions
does devin hester ring a bell also a round two pick
i think parrish was just in the dog house and never saw the field you will see even if its preseason parrish can do alot
if you look back ate hof game parrish was breaking ankles in that game as a wr
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Then again
Last year, Devin Hester had 757 receiving yards on 57 catches and 3 TDs. More than twice the yards Parrish has gotten in any single season. That’s really not awful for a second-round pick in general.
Exactly. And Hester was mostly a DB in college, so the Bears knew that he was a project player on offense. Hester has also returned both kicks and punts and not just punts like Roscoe.
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In games, Parrish dropped most of the balls thrown his way.....why would any QB throw to him more often?
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cant vote bobby shaw
I remember he had one catch where it bounced off someones hands or helmet and he caught it. After which he celebrated as if he just won the superbowl. After this, Im not sure why but i really liked him. I also remember loving joe burns (i think thats his name, i think he was a running back) I honestly dont remember why I liked him so much though,.
Josh Reed.
2nd round pick. Biletnikoff award winner (Best College WR). BUST.
Reed was pathetic. Might be one of the worst draft picks in the 00’s. And we’ve had a lot. So glad hes gone…
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at least read was a good blocker and had the toughness to go over the middle and hang on to the ball
Yes, Reed had drop trouble early on, but the last few years he was our go to WR on third down.
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he was – but that was also because of his position and the scheme (not to mention captain checkdown). He rarely found the endzone and i’d be interested to know his YAC
We got the tools, We got the talent
Reed may have found the endzone a lot......someone had to throw him the ball
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But he wasnt drafted to be an OK receiver over the middle every once and a while. He was drafted to be a stud, and he was a dud. Pathetic TD production.
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And Evans is 100% better run blocker.
Idk when this theory started that Reed was a run blocking machine… Evans has always been our best at that… hell even Owens blocked downfield more than Reed last year.
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never saw Reed taking plays off
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Never saw Reed make plays.
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not true....he converted many a 3rd down to keep our ridiculously small number of scoring drives alive
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Those two pathetic drops in the end zone that lost us the 2nd Patriots game say "hi"
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by UZ on Jun 25, 2010 3:47 PM EDT up reply actions
are you sure you want to talk about drops as a way of proving Roscoe is better than Reed ?????
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by Joe P. on Jun 25, 2010 6:05 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
^ This ^
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by CanadianBillsFan on Jun 25, 2010 7:01 PM EDT up reply actions
Trent to Josh Reed vs. the Redskins two years ago.
The Gibbs calling two timeouts in a row game.
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by SouthBuffaloNDgrad on Jun 26, 2010 3:37 PM EDT up reply actions
so, do you consider Whitner a bust too?
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Whitners not a bust yet. He could be… but he also didnt win an award that says youre the best at your postition. Someone winning the Biletnikoff and being drafted early in the 2nd round should have waaaaaaaaaaay more production than he had. Id consider Reeds career a complete failure. Whitners still on his rookie deal and could team up nicely with Byrd next year.
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Hahhahhaha....your basing BUST stats on a award given to a player in college??????
I prefer, you know, NFL production.
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wooops ...... to continue
I don’t think Reed has lived up to where he was drafted, but compared to Parrish, he was much more productive.
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I prefer, you know, NFL production.
Reed averaged 446 yards and 1.25 TD’s a year. If you call that production then Websters has to update their definition of production.
Have you ever heard of Chaz Schilens? Me neither, thats because he had 365 yards receiving and 2 TD’s last year in Oakland. But he had 74 more yards and a TD more than Reed. Dudes pathetic.
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yep....now do Parrish
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Pathetic as well. But Parrish wasnt drafted to be a go to #2 receiver. Reed was. That out-weighs it for me. And Reed had 3 years on him in the league.
During the 00’s Reed had 10 TD receptions in 311 receptions. Parrish had 5 TD’s on 100 catches. Neither were studs, but Reed was way more disappointing.
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Parrish was drafted in the 2nd.....no way it was just to return punts
Reed got an extension. Parrish will be lucky if he isn’t beat out by Easily.
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Yes they were both drafted in the 2nd round. And why wouldnt Parrish have been drafted for his return ability? He was one of, if not the best in the country. He was awesome for us up to til last year. I believe Reed was drafted to be a starting WR, Parrish was drafted to contribute on offense and used as a returner… pretty big difference.
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yes, except Parrish never was able to contribute as a WR
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roscoe was never drafted to be a starting wr
remember the nfl is a copycat league and when roscoe was drafted it was because of the success the return men were having around the league and buffalo wanted in on it if it was up to me i wold exclude roscoe and put in say someone who was drafted to be a receiver price comes to mind
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i dont buy that
you dont draft a guy in the second to return punts. hester returned both punts and kicks and played some db his rookie season, and has since turned into a legitimate deep threat wr – having more yards and catches than parrish ever had. roscoe was brought in as a wr/return guy and has failed miserably in 2/3 of that. (failed at wr and KR)
price had a great year in 2002 and over his career with the bills scored 25 tds. id take that production over any of these guys….price does no deserve to be on this list
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by silverstreak3k on Jun 25, 2010 2:41 PM EDT up reply actions
he was returning kicks ?? it was him and mcgee returning ??
and considering parrish has 9 tds in 6 years whether it be returning or receiving and reed has 10 in 9 years think the nod goes to reed as a bigger waste of a pick and on a side note now there is no one left from the 2002 draft everybody was either cut or not resigned
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by CanadianBillsFan on Jun 25, 2010 3:10 PM EDT up reply actions
i think draft position is pretty important tho
i think when comparing reed and parrish, looking at tds doesnt count for much. roscoe got the tds cuz he made them (made the plays). but he was able to make the plays because they had to punt to him (most of the time). reed was dependent on whoever was throwing him the ball. reed showed that he could make the team as the 3rd wr (which means he must have shown a lot more than parrish in the practice and real life playing time). none of the wrs under jauron put up gaudy receiving numbers, but i think thats mainly the qb and coaches fault. reed showed (towards the second half of his tenure here) that he had sure hands and had the ability to go over the middle and pick up a few third downs here and there (i dont buy into the fact that he was some kind of 3rd down machine or something, but he was sure handed and made some plays from time to time).
look, i like parrish, i think he was terribly utilized by jauron and co. but that doesnt change the fact that up until now, he has severely disappointed in the wr game. that said, i think about 65% of that fault rests on jauron and his inability to run any kind of a good offense, and about 35% roscoe for pouting and not putting the time in. is parrish a terrible player? heck no, but as a wr he has done nothing. heres hoping hes treating this as a new rookie season where he can put his mind to it and make some plays and possibly be considered top wr for the next decade….
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by silverstreak3k on Jun 25, 2010 4:36 PM EDT up reply actions
canadian thats kind of a catch 22
its like saying fred jackson is the worse qb of the decade what he was drafted to play is a big part parrish is a special teamer with a light sprinkle of receiver over his career not really fair to put him on this
parrish 100 catches 1086 yards 53 catches for first downs and 5 tds 2 fumbles
reed 311 catches 3575 yards 193 catches for first downs 10 tds and 2 fumbles
( reed has been in the league 3 years longer ) stats do lie reed is the worst of the 2
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Terrence McGee was coming off a season where he returned three kicks for TDs when Buffalo drafted Parrish. So, Buffalo probably never had kick returns in their plans for Parrish, which makes sense considering that Roscoe only returned a handful of kicks in his first 3 or 4 years here. He also didn’t return kicks in college.
The range of punt returns for the league last year, not counting fair catches was San Diego’s 26 to the Jets’ 50. You’re average team returns about 2.25 punts per game. If the Bills drafted Parrish to do that and sprinkle him lightly into the offense, they’re 10x more incompetent then even their biggest critics think. Roscoe was drafted to be this team’s primary slot receiver and an electric player with the ball in his hands on offense. He was a big time deep threat at Miami and Buffalo surely hoped that would carry over as well.
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personally i think we missed on alot of picks from 1995-2008
i really think this team without polian were just throwing darts at mel kipers board and picking who ever it hit
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by MattRichWarren on Jun 25, 2010 3:41 PM EDT up reply actions
and charles woodson beat out peyton manning
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by silverstreak3k on Jun 25, 2010 4:26 PM EDT up reply actions
Agree
Joe P—agree with your assessment on Reed, after some drops early on in his career he did improve and became a reliable WR on 3rd down. He is another Bills WR that takes abuse but had to play with a QB carousel and horrible offensive game plans. He is one of the best blocking WR’s in the NFL.
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Votes for Jeremy McDaniel
It is clear to me now, after studying these polls, that there are a lot of Bills fans out there that have completely blacked out the last decade. It seems to me, at least statistics wise, that he racked up more production in his one good season in this decade than most of the other guys racked up in multiple years here with the Bills.
I noticed the same trend with the “All decade team” selections – where most of the holdovers from the 90’s were automatically voted for… Yes, the Bills have stunk, but some of the individual talents rolling through have been quite good.
The inverse is also true, we’ve been pretty bad, so everyone should perform there due diligence and vote in this current series of polls for the proper, most awful players on the list. One season out of two with good production is definitely enough to knock McDaniel (undrafted rookie free agent) off this list. I believe McDaniel maybe struggled a little or was bumped down the order by the emergence of Peerless Price, a 2nd rounder.
I don't feel Roscoe deserves this one
as strange as that sounds. But in saying that, i don’t know that he isn’t deserving of this honor. He was a 2nd-round pick, and the Bills top pick that season. He’s a stellar returner, obviously. I’d like to know if he was drafted to be a WR or a specialist. If it was to be a specialist, he shouldn’t be on this list.
I’m torn. I never thought Bobby Shaw lived up to expectations.
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by TheAfghanTwilight on Jun 25, 2010 2:34 PM EDT reply actions
I’m not sure that Roscoe deserves he #1 WR either, but put it this way, I knew that if he didn’t get number one, he’d get the number 2 spot, so it’s not totaly surprising either.
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by CanadianBillsFan on Jun 25, 2010 2:39 PM EDT up reply actions
Roscoe = Busto = #1 Worst WR to me.
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by SERGEANT MAJOR THOR on Jun 25, 2010 8:25 PM EDT up reply actions
But obviously not to everyone. Look at the above debate as proof.
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by CanadianBillsFan on Jun 25, 2010 8:41 PM EDT up reply actions
I sorta liked all these guys
I mean you gotta accept a player for who they are, and no one ever accused these guys of being capable of being an NFL #2. Its the FO’s fault that they (Reed) were used more than their talent warranted
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What about Price
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Do we all forget his like 8.0 ypc season? He was great the first time around but his second term with the team was atrocious.
Well see thats the thing, You can’t just include his second stint with us and totally neglect the first 3 years of the decade when he was very/great. All 5 years of play in this decade must be taken into consideration, and the first 3 by far trump the last 2 and take him out of this poll.
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