Poll: Which New Coach Will Have Most '10 Success?
by Brian Galliford on Jun 28, 2010 1:30 PM EDT
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It was a quiet NFL off-season on the head coaching front. After seeing nine franchises change head coaches just one year ago, only three franchises took on that transition this off-season. Making the situation even stranger, exactly zero of those three new head coaches are rookies; all three have previous NFL head coaching experience under their belts.
Chan Gailey takes over a Buffalo Bills outfit in desperate need of direction from the top down. He spent two seasons as the head coach of Dallas in 1997 and 1998, going 18-14 in the process, with two playoff appearances and zero playoff wins. He last coached with Kansas City in 2008 as the team's offensive coordinator. Buffalo last made the playoffs in 1999. Team's biggest question marks: QB, OT, OLB
Pete Carroll is the new head coach of the Seattle Seahawks, a job he took after serving in the same capacity at USC for the past nine years. He has four years of NFL head coaching experience, with a 33-31 record overall, two playoff appearances (both with New England), and a 1-2 playoff record. He takes over a Seahawks team that last made the post-season in 2007. Team's biggest question marks: QB, WR, DE
Mike Shanahan will have a lot of power and voice with his new team, the Washington Redskins. Easily the most heralded of the NFL's three new coaches, Shanahan has 16 years of NFL head coaching experience, with a 146-98 overall record, seven playoff appearances, an 8-5 playoff record and two Super Bowl rings to his name. He last coached in Denver in 2008, and did not coach during the 2009 season. Washington, like Seattle, last made the post-season in 2007. Team's biggest question marks: RB, WR, NT
Our question for you this afternoon is simple: which new NFL head coach will guide his team to the most wins in 2010?
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Bills Why Not?
I voted Bills, we should be as good as the skins and, I think better than the Seahawks.
by Kelly to Reed Touchdown!! on Jun 28, 2010 1:34 PM EDT reply actions
Let's see
The only team with an established QB and a successful head coach is Washington. Shanny gets my vote here every time. Sure, they might have the toughest division, but they’ve improved their porous OL, have a decent group of WR’s and had the stingiest D of the three teams listed. I think this one is an easy choice.
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by Kurupt on Jun 28, 2010 1:38 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
i honestly dont know how any could vote for anyone but the redskins in this. I think any vote for the bills is just blatant homerism, if we’re being honest.
by quantumuprising on Jun 28, 2010 1:59 PM EDT up reply actions
If you're being honest maybe...
Not if I am. I think a “IMHO” would be appropriate in your comment, because it’s certainly not my honesty saying that.
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by BuffaloBlueBlood on Jun 28, 2010 6:44 PM EDT up reply actions
then you’re probably lying to yourself? i can’t really think of any reasonable or factual argument that would put the bills ahead of the redskins this year.
by quantumuprising on Jun 29, 2010 7:54 AM EDT up reply actions
An argument could be made for a better D, maybe. Not saying that’s a fact or anything, but a Haynesworth-less Redskins D is not going to have nearly the level of success it did last year. They’re switching schemes and have awkward personnel fits too. We’ll see how it goes on that front. Their RBs were quality guys but could all be over the hill and we have a strength at that position. Yes, they have a better QB, but I’d say the O-line could be a toss-up.
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by WhyBillsWhy on Jun 29, 2010 12:47 PM EDT up reply actions
Geez. You could have stopped after the first sentence IMO.
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by MattRichWarren on Jun 28, 2010 2:24 PM EDT up reply actions
Noted
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I went with Seattle.
Why?
Well Buffalo is a mess at QB and LT, and their division is ahead of the curve, so to speak. Washington has a great QB, great coach, and strong vets all around, but their division is a monster to work over. Seattle has to fight with San Fran, as I think Leinhart and Anderson will make AZ very weary for Warner. I think Seattle has a good shot at making a slight rebound based around the fact that Matt Hasselback is an above-average QB in an easier division than the other 2 coaches.
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by TheAfghanTwilight on Jun 28, 2010 1:46 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
thank you sir.
always nice to hear someone backing my team…it doesnt happen very often.
by gatorempire127 on Jun 28, 2010 6:12 PM EDT up reply actions
- Washington still is the worst team in the NFCE, even with Shanny and McNabb.
- The NFCS is weak, but I still dont think Seattles a good team, and it will take Pete a year or two to get his guys and system in place.
- I went with Chan. I think we could be .500 or a game above… I dont see the other two teams finishing .500.
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Washington is still the worst team in the NFCE. Are we still the worst team in the AFCE?
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I think we’re still the worst team in the AFCE but I think we’re closer to the Phins than the Skins are to the Giants. I could see them winning 6-7 games, and us 7-8. Its not a huge difference, and Im a little homer’d on this one. But heck, why not? haha
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We have a REALLY tough schedule this year. Just something to keep in mind.
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all three teams do. this years schedule is one of the toughest ive seen for Seattle
by gatorempire127 on Jun 29, 2010 9:30 AM EDT up reply actions
I voted Shanny just on victories alone but for the ’Skins to be considered successful, they are going to need more than 8 wins. I think if either Buffalo or Seattle reaches 8-8, fans will be very happy. Not so with Washington.
But the poll asks which will have the most victories.
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by MattRichWarren on Jun 28, 2010 2:25 PM EDT up reply actions
Well yes.
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by MattRichWarren on Jun 28, 2010 4:14 PM EDT up reply actions
I voted Seattle, for a lot of the same reasons TheAfghanTwilight did. Also I wouldn’t put WR as one of their biggest weaknesses, definitely not above DT either. Their whole line is pretty suspect, at least from a pass rush aspect. They’ll be beasts at run-stopping, but I mean they moved Red Bryant to freaking DE so they’re really reaching for something on that line.
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I voted for Bills
I expect Washington to have 4 or 5 wins this season. Between their D (which Jim Haslett is DC), McNabb’s likelihood to last 16 games, and their schedule (against the NFC East and NFC Central), I don’t think Shanny will have quick success.
Seahawks might surprise some teams but I think we will too. We’ve rebuilt our run Def, have a secondary that might be the envy of the league, and I really think having a competent HC/OC will work wonders for our offense.
by Moose68 on Jun 28, 2010 4:00 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Chan will have a rough rebuilding year, but it won’t be his fault. Regardless, can’t vote for him.
Seattle still has no QB.
Shanny is an incredibly underrated coach, I think he can get the Skins to 10 wins with McNabb.
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Really?
I think Shanahan is anything but underrated.
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by TheAfghanTwilight on Jun 28, 2010 3:04 PM EDT up reply actions
Talk to a Broncos fan
They seem to think he was one of the worst coaches in recent memory.
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by UZ on Jun 28, 2010 3:32 PM EDT up reply actions
I’m not sure he’s that bad — those Bronco’s fans never had Jauron as their HC — but I also don’t rate him as highly as most other folks on this website do, and the Redskins are a true Dan Snyder-created mess at the moment. As for Seattle, I’m not sure where they are in finding a QB. So I picked the Bills under Gailey purely by default.
Had to give Shanahan the nod here.
Even with the distractions that Fat Albert brings to the team,Shanahan has done the most through the draft and FA to turn it around and take a Win Now approach.I absolutely think the Bills win more games than last year,but the Redskins will win more overall.
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Not surprised that Shanahan is winning, but a little surprised that Carroll isn’t getting any love. They play in the NFC West, for God’s sake!
by Brian Galliford on Jun 28, 2010 4:06 PM EDT reply actions
I think people expect Carroll to fail again
At least that’s always in the back of my mind regarding him….
The NFC West is SF’s to lose, IMO, and that’s not really saying much. Will 8 wins win this division again?
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by Kurupt on Jun 28, 2010 4:13 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Yeah, SF should win that division. STL is a clear 4th, but I think Seattle could win between 7 or 9 games and contend for the Wild Card. They’ve got OK personnel.
by Brian Galliford on Jun 28, 2010 4:24 PM EDT up reply actions
If I had to vote number 2 I go Seahawks. Mainly based on Hasselback being better than any QB on Buffalo’s roster.
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by MattRichWarren on Jun 28, 2010 4:15 PM EDT up reply actions
When Hassleback gets injured
Charlie Whitehurst better be worth what was paid for him or the Hawks will fall flat on their face.
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by bflo on Jun 28, 2010 6:46 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
If Gailey or Carroll had Donovan McNabb, I’d vote for them. But, they don’t so Shanahan got my vote.
In addition to that, I don’t think Seattle’s defense is going to be any good. They’re going to need to come up with some pass rush by committee type thing with Aaron Curry, Chris Clemons, Lawrence Jackson and some DTs. And I don’t think they have the secondary to make up for that unless recently turned 21 year old rookie Earl Thomas is ready to be a playmaker back there. They should play the run well, but I just don’t buy that run defense is all that important.
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by norcaliangelsfan on Jun 28, 2010 7:30 PM EDT reply actions
bad math?
Pete Carroll … two playoff appearances … and a 1-2 playoff record.
I assume you mean that Carroll has been to the playoffs on two separate occassions, which resulted in three playoff (game) appearances and a 1-2 record?
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How is the math bad there?
Carroll lead two Patriots’ teams to the playoffs. They won a game in 1997 before losing, and lost their first game in 1998, hence the 1-2 record. That’s two appearances and three games….
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by norcaliangelsfan on Jun 28, 2010 8:37 PM EDT up reply actions
That’s two appearances and three games…
So Carroll didn’t ‘appear’ for one of the games?
Just sayin’
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What?
Made the playoffs in 1997 and 1998, hence two appearances. Making the playoffs is an “appearance”. The games are “games”. The Saints didn’t make three playoff appearances this past year en route to the title. They made one appearance, playing 3 games.
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A playoff appearance is a year in which a team made the playoffs, not the number of playoff games they appeared in.
by Brian Galliford on Jun 28, 2010 10:23 PM EDT up reply actions
that said...
I would like to see the stats, but it always seems to me that Seattle has a powderpuff time at home, so although the voting is going to Wash…I bet that Seattle is on top.
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(face palm so hard, I’m bruised)…..
Y’all just figure that if the Bills do better than you expect, then maybe you’ll be happy… So then, set the bar so low, your bound to achieve!!! Way to go Bills Fans!!!
As for me… Well, just like last year, and the year before, and the one before that, and the….. Well, you get my drift….. Anyway… I’m a fan, who always, yes, every year (since about 64 btw, at 5 yrs old), I expect, the very best out of my team… I refuse to cheer for them to be #2 or #3, or anything, but #1!!!
So y’all go on…. Accept mediocrity before the season even starts… I can’t…. no… I WON’T go there with you…
Abayarde???? I need help here!!!!
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by Cinga on Jun 28, 2010 9:28 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
For this season
I expect much less than mediocraty. 3 wins
Shanny gets my vote, simply because of McNabb. Chan is 3rd in my book.
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by Schooled You on Jun 29, 2010 12:57 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Shanny
He has his QB in McNabb, signed RB’s Parker &L. Johnson (to go with Portis), WR Galloway, drafted OT T. Williams no#4 overall, signed G Hicks and traded for OT J. Brown. Shanny is loading up on offense and the Skins also made some nice moves on defense.
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